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Post by AnneCGuedes 19.10.24 13:11

Ladyinred wrote:What that woman, Hazel, endured was horrendous.

What she told was.
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Post by Ladyinred 19.10.24 13:16

Was she lying about her experience?
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Post by AnneCGuedes 19.10.24 13:24

crusader wrote:In the daily mail, she say's this

'I said there was a mark on his leg; perhaps a ladder in his tights, maybe a scar or a tear. Later I learned he had a very aggressive form of psoriasis and there could have been scars from that.'

How did she learn that and when ?
HB has made of the PT police a caricatural description. If she had mentioned a particular policeman, but a whole team, it's not plausible.
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Post by PeterMac 19.10.24 15:01

It is desperate back-fitting to conceal the fact that she has always said there was a Large cross-Shaped scar and he hasn't got one.   Someone has been coaching her or 'helping' with the writing of the article

It is no different from Gerry changing the door of entry, or Kate inventing the curtains whooshing and door slamming ten YEARS later.
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Post by CaKeLoveR 19.10.24 15:10

There should be a name for this. Assistive interrogation? Guided interview?
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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 0:14

@Ladyinred Post #212

No. Hazel is not lying about her Ordeal. There were 5 young British Men who helped her after she managed to free herself. They covered her with their own Clothing, and brought her to the Reception area.
The PJ / GNR were in Attendance,  and took Photos. A Report was made.

The Question for  Herr Wolters remains, can it be proved to have been Christian Stefan Brückner?

Or was it someone else?
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Post by AnneCGuedes 20.10.24 1:25

Have you read the PJ report ?
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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 2:15

No. Have you?
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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 14:07

Hazel B was telling her Story on Irish Radio RTE in 2015 well before Christian B was brought into the Frame.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20308081.html

Either she has convinced herself that 'it must be him', or someone has helped her to form this conclusion?

It was the BKA that asked Portugal to find any unsolved Crimes in Portugal that fit his Profile when he was Extradicted to Germany.

Hazel's was just one of many.
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Post by crusader 20.10.24 14:18

It could just as well been Martin Ney, convicted for murdering children in 2012.
He wore a black mask and he has blue eyes.
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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 15:03

On 7 April 2004, 11-year-old Jonathan Coulom disappeared from a school home in Saint-Brevin-les-Pins in western France. In May, his undressed and handcuffed body, which was attached to a concrete block, was found in a pond about 30 kilometres (19 mi) away. Ney is said to have been close to the scene of the crime in May 2004.

Hazel's ordeal was in Praia da Rocha, Portugal in June, 2004. Two weeks before her 21st Birthday.

Ney preferred young Boys.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Ney
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Post by Justice for Maddie 20.10.24 15:08

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Yes, what about Martin Ney? Why didn't they investigate more against him?
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Post by crusader 20.10.24 15:13

He may have preferred boy's, but that doesn't mean he was innocent of rape as well.
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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 15:18

Because Hazel B never suspected or accused him - only Brückner.
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Post by crusader 20.10.24 15:25

Did she know about Ney was his description  ever put to her?
All she knows is her rapist wore a mask, was German and had blue eyes.
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Post by Nina 20.10.24 15:47

crusader wrote:Did she know about Ney was his description  ever put to her?
All she knows is her rapist wore a mask, was German and had blue eyes.
I would imagine blue eyes are very common in Germany.

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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 15:51

Cru, you always ask the right questions.

Why did she pick Brückner over Ney? 

Because his Eyes are 'Blue-er'?

Their builds are however, completely different.
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Post by Jojo1 20.10.24 16:00

I cannot find where I have read this but didn't one of the judges look at Brueckners eyes and conclude they weren't blue, but more of a common grey ish colour. I wonder if Ney was investigated properly.
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Post by AnneCGuedes 20.10.24 16:30

Silentscope wrote:No. Have you?

I only asked because you mentioned the existence of a report. I never saw one (nor looked for). I vaguely remember that DNA found matched HB's lover.
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Post by AnneCGuedes 20.10.24 16:32

HB obviously pointed CB after she read about DM.
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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 16:51

No, Hazel only claimed to have recognised his Eyes after the British Press published pictures of the 'Prime Suspect in case Maddie' without the Blacked out area as given out by the BKA under German press rules.

Her Attacker changed condoms so no DNA could have been left.
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Post by AnneCGuedes 20.10.24 17:05

When did the British press publish pictures of CB as M's murderer ?
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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 19:04

Friday 5 June 2020.

Daily Mail and other 'Red Tops'
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Post by Nina 20.10.24 19:13

Silentscope wrote:Friday 5 June 2020.

Daily Mail and other 'Red Tops
Well all else was failing. Tongue very much in cheek.

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Hazel speaks no German as far as I know. She is unlikely to have recognised her Attacker from any German News outlet.


If she truly thinks she could have saved Maddie by getting Brückner arrested beforehand, she should read the PJ Files and see if it changes her mind.

https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-daily-mirror/20240524/281479281534263

Or is this a BKA/Grimm fairytale?
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Post by Nina 20.10.24 20:00

I know, I know but......https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13117359/Christian-Brueckner-worked-Ocean-Club-restaurant-Brit-claims-Madeleine-McCann.html

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Post by Silentscope 20.10.24 20:11

Credibilty zero.
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Post by Nina 20.10.24 20:55

Silentscope wrote:Credibilty zero.
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OK I am just a very ordinary person.

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