50 facts about the Maddie case that the British media are not telling you
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50 facts about the Maddie case that the British media are not telling you
What happened to Madeleine McCann?
50 facts about the case that the British media are not telling you
Among other things you’ll find in the new leaflet that is to be printed in the New Year:
The major contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and friends
The highly trained British police dogs who detected the scent of a corpse
Strange things the McCanns have said and done
How the McCanns wasted public money on useless private detectives
Can we be sure that Madeleine McCann really was abducted by a stranger? Please take a careful look at these facts about the case, which you won’t find in any of our mainstream media. And if you are concerned about the contents of this leaflet, please copy and pass on to your friends and contacts.
SECTION A. What happened before and after Madeleine was reported missing?
1. The McCanns originally claimed they found the shutters and window of the children’s room open. They ’phoned relatives that night saying: ‘An abductor broke in and took Madeleine’. But when police and the managers of the complex declared there was no sign of forced entry, they changed their story, saying they must have left the patio doors open. The window had been cleaned the day before. Only Kate McCann’s fingerprints were found on the window.
2. The McCanns gave different accounts of whether they were both with Madeleine at tea-time on the day Madeleine was reported missing - and gave three different versions of who read the children bedtime stories the night Madeleine was reported missing: (a) Kate (b) Gerry or (c) they both did.
3. Kate McCann said that their friend Dr David Payne knocked on the front door of their apartment at about 6.30pm on 3 May, but was immediately sent away without ever entering. Dr Payne, however, said he came in, saw all three children dressed ready for bed, and stayed for at least several minutes.
4. The McCanns said the children were in their pyjamas by 6.30pm the night Madeleine disappeared, were bathed at 7.00pm and asleep by 7.30pm. But just a few weeks later, in his blog, Gerry McCann wrote: “The twins must like their new cots as they were asleep by 7.30pm which was most unusual”.
5. Dr Matthew Oldfield claimed he and his wife arrived at the Tapas bar at 8.55pm, but then went back to the Paynes’ apartment to chase them up as they were late. Dr Russell O’Brien confirmed that: “Matt, around 9pm, got up and said ‘I’ll go and drag them out’.” The Paynes flatly contradicted this.
6. Dr Matthew Oldfield changed his story several times. He said he did one ‘check’ on the children, then said he’d done two. He changed his story about the 2nd check, first saying that he walked by the McCanns’ apartment, later saying he’d entered it. Dr Kate McCann claimed Dr Oldfield said, at 9.30pm: “I’ll check on Maddie for you”. Why didn’t he say: “I’ll check on the children?”
7. The McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner insisted she’d seen someone carrying a child close to the McCanns’ apartment at 9.15pm the evening she was reported missing. But she changed her description of this person several times. Later, one of the McCanns’ detectives said she might have seen a woman, not a man. She claimed that when she saw this man, she walked past Gerry McCann and a friend, Jez Wilkins. But neither of them could remember seeing her.
8. Instead of looking for Madeleine, two friends of the McCanns tore off the cover of Madeleine’s Activity Sticker Book, writing down what they claimed was a record of the night’s events. They then wrote out a second timeline of what they said happened. In both versions, they said Jane Tanner had seen an abductor around 9.15pm. But she did not tell the McCanns what she had seen for 24 hours.
9. The McCanns claimed they were dining yards from their children, said they could see their room, and said it was ‘just like being in your back garden’. In truth, the children’s room was 120 yards away and the children’s room was on the far side of the apartment block and they couldn’t see their room.
10. Gerry McCann on 4 May (the day after Madeleine went missing) said: “Yesterday, Madeleine and and the twins were put to bed in their respective beds at 7.30pm”. Yet when the police arrived at about 11.00pm, they found a bed where Madeleine was supposed to have slept and two cots. Moreover, in a magazine interview in January 2008, Gerry McCann said: “On one bed the twins lay sleeping.
11. The McCanns said Madeleine and younger brother Sean were crying on their own the night before she was reported missing. Yet they left all three children on their own again the very next night.
12. Gerry McCann claimed that a senior Social Services official had told him: “Your child care was well within the bounds of responsible parenting”. He has never said who that was.
13. The McCanns, when asked a simple question as to whether they had given the children Calpol or other sedatives the night Madeleine was reported missing, denied on TV ever giving their children Calpol or other sedatives. But Kate McCann’s father confirmed that they did give the children Calpol.
14. The McCanns said: “Madeleine does not like to be called Maddie and does not answer to Maddie”. But Gerry McCann called her ‘Maddie’ on Friends Reunited, the twins called her ‘Maddie’, and their relatives and friends called her ‘Maddie’. A long list of examples is at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
15. Kate McCann said that when she went to their apartment at 10.00pm on 3 May, she was 100% sure that Madeleine had been ‘taken’. But the McCanns allowed their 7 friends, several staff from the Ocean Club, and others, to traipse all round their apartment, thus contaminating a crime scene where vital forensic evidence could have been found. The police found no forensic trace of any abductor.
16. On the night Madeleine was reported missing, two sets of police arrived, the local GNR, and then the national force, the PJ. On the first occasion, Gerry McCann fell down on his knees, spreading out his arms on the ground, rather like a Muslim at prayer. On the second occasion, both Gerry and Kate McCann repeated that same strange gesture, on the double bed in their apartment, in front of the PJ.
17. On 4 May, the day after Madeleine went missing, the McCanns were returning to Praia da Luz. The police seized CCTV film at a petrol station, showing a girl similar to Madeleine with two adults. The police asked the McCanns to return to Portimão, but Kate McCann became irritated at being asked to visit the police station again. The police said she showed no hope Madeleine could be found.
18. In a BBC TV interview, Kate McCann admitted that she had never spent any time at all physically looking for Madeleine.
19. The Portuguese police were told by British police: “The McCanns have no credit or ATM cards”. But their flights to Portugal and hire of a Renault Scenic in Portugal were paid with credit cards. Then Gerry McCann admitted having credit cards, saying they went missing after his wallet was stolen. He gave two different places where his wallet was stolen: Waterloo Station - or ‘near Downing Street’.
20. After she was taken in for questioning on 7 September, Kate McCann was asked 48 questions by the Portuguese police. She refused to answer any of them. She was asked if she realised that she was hindering the investigation by refusing to answer questions. She said: “Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks”. Their official spokesman, former head of Labour’s Media Unit, Clarence Mitchell, stated: “The McCanns were fully within their rights not to co-operate”.
21. Mitchell was appointed the McCanns’ spokesman by former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Mitchell once boasted that as the £75,000-a-year Head of Unit, his job was ‘to control what comes out in the media’. When Mitchell’s post with the McCanns became part-time, he immediately landed a job with Freud Communications, owned and managed by Rupert Murdoch’s son-in-law, Matthew Freud.
22. The McCanns said publicly in August 2007: “We will take a lie detector test at any time”. Then a newspaper offered to pay for one. They then changed their mind and said they wouldn’t.
23. Some months after they returned to England, the McCanns and their friends were asked by Portuguese police to take part in a reconstruction of the events of 3 May 2007. They all refused.
24. When asked by a Portuguese journalist from Sol to give some details about Madeleine’s abduction, the McCanns’ friend Dr David Payne said: “This is our matter only. We have a pact of silence. All comments must go through Gerry McCann”.
25. The McCanns’ friends gave three different versions of how often they were supposedly checking the children - hourly, half-hourly and ‘every 15 minutes’.
26. The Portuguese police did not believe that the McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner was telling the truth about the abductor she claimed to have seen. Following a series of mobile ’phone conversations between Gerry McCann and former Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Brown pressurised the Portuguese authorities to allow Gerry McCann himself to release a description based on Tanner’s dubious claims.
27. The Home Office refused the Portuguese police permission to examine the McCanns’ credit card and bank statements, mobile ’phone records and Madeleine’s medical records.
28. Gordon Brown was told that Portuguese detective Mr Amaral, who took the McCanns in for questioning, would be removed from his post before he himself was informed.
SECTION B. The evidence of the cadaver dogs
29. On British police advice, the Portuguese asked top dog handler Martin Grime to bring his springer spaniels, Eddie and Keela, to Praia da Luz. Eddie is trained to detect the scent of human corpses; Keela is a bloodhound. Eddie had never given a false alert in over 200 previous outings. He alerted to the odour of a human corpse in these locations: four different places in the McCanns’ apartment, two of Dr Kate McCann’s clothes, one of the children’s T-shirts, on the pink soft toy, ‘Cuddle Cat’, and in two places in the car the McCanns hired. Eddie did not alert to a corpse scent anywhere else in Praia da Luz. Keela detected blood, which may have been Madeleine’s blood, at some of these places.
30. When they heard about the dogs’ findings, the McCanns reacted strangely, claiming that…
The ‘smell of death’ may have been found on Kate’s clothes because she was said to have been close to six corpses in her last two weeks at work, on the pink soft toy ‘Cuddle Cat’ because she ‘sometimes took Cuddle Cat to work’, or that the ‘smell of death’ could have come from rotting meat that Gerry McCann was taking to the local rubbish dump from time to time
If Madeleine’s DNA, were to be found in the boot of their car, it may have come from the children’s dirty nappies they claimed they were carrying in the boot
Any blood found in the flat might have come from Madeleine ‘grazing her leg’ or suffering a nosebleed. In fact, with the help of Martin Grime’s bloodhound, the police found blood underneath the tiles below a window in the living room of the McCanns’ apartment.
31. The McCanns also claimed that sniffer dogs were ‘notoriously unreliable’. They quoted a U.S. case where a cadaver dog’s alert was said to be wrong. Months later, the dog’s alert was proved right.
32. In 2008, a Portuguese TV interviewer asked: “How can you explain the scent of cadaver found by the British dogs?” Kate McCann replied: “Maybe you should ask the judiciary. They have examined all evidence”. When the interviewer pressed Kate McCann for an explanation, Gerry McCann intervened, smirking, and replied: “Ask the dogs, Sandra”.
33. When the McCanns moved from their apartment to a villa in Praia da Luz, a neighbour saw their car boot left open all night long. A relative of the McCanns, Michael Wright, admitted to police that this was because of a horrible smell in the car. This was the same car where Eddie, the cadaver dog, alerted to the smell of a corpse.
34. Kate McCann clutched ‘Cuddle Cat’ in front of TV cameras, claiming it reminded her of Madeleine, and was ‘comforting’. Yet shortly before the sniffer dogs arrived, she washed Cuddle Cat, claiming it ‘smelled of sun tan lotion’. This would make forensic analysis of it much harder.
SECTION C. Strange things the McCanns have said and done
35. The McCanns ignored police advice not to publicise Madeleine’s distinctive mark in her right eye, a ‘coloboma’. They said that if she was with an abductor, it could place her life in danger. On 15 July 2009, Gerry McCann said: “We thought it was possible that publicising her coloboma could harm Madeleine. Her abductor might do something to her eye. But in marketing terms it was a good ploy”.
36. Kate McCann, in 2007, said: “I know that what happened is not due to the fact of us leaving the children asleep. I know it happened under other circumstances”.
37. On 3 June 2007, Gerry McCann said: “We want a big event to raise awareness she is still missing…It won’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that”. On 28 June, he said: “I have no doubt we will be able to sustain a high profile for Madeleine’s disappearance in the long-term”.
38. On 11 December 2009, Gerry McCann said: “There is no evidence that we were involved in Madeleine’s death”. The previous year, the McCanns’ spokesman said: “Can I suggest you actually quote me accurately. I said: ‘I believe Kate and Gerry are not responsible for Madeleine’s death’.”
39. On 24 August 2007, Gerry McCann, in a Scottish TV interview, said: “In fact, one of the slight positives in all of this is that there is so much rumour about what did and didn't happen, it's actually very difficult, if you're reading the newspapers, watching TV, to know what is true and what's not”.
40. Asked to comment on his reaction at learning that Madeleine had been abducted, Dr Gerald McCann said: ‘It was like being told you were overdrawn on your student loan”.
41. Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said in September 2007: “There is a wholly innocent explanation for any material the police may or may not have found”.
42. Unlike most couples who lose a dear child, they did not cling to their other two children. Others cared for them while they flew round the world to meet the Pope, visit the U.S. and do TV interviews.
43. As with all of us, the McCanns’ body language may yield valuable clues. During TV interviews, the following conduct has been observed: avoiding eye contact, nervous twitching, tense facial expressions, shaking their heads while making various assertions, and touching or scratching their faces at difficult moments. They were seen smiling and laughing on what would have been Madeleine’s 4th birthday, just 10 days after she went missing. Many people say they have not seen evidence of the grief that couples would normally express if they had lost a much-loved daughter.
SECTION D. The Fund and the McCanns’ private detectives
44. Only 13% of the McCanns’ Find Madeleine Fund has been spent on searching for Madeleine. The Fund is a private company, not a charity. Much of it has been used on the McCanns’ legal expenses.
45. The first detectives the McCanns employed were the highly controversial Spanish group Metodo 3. Just before Christmas 2007, their boss, Francisco Marco, boasted his men were ‘closing in on Madeleine’s kidnappers’, promising ‘Madeleine will be home by Christmas’. These were lies.
46. Next, the McCanns turned to a private investigator called Kevin Halligen, who has various aliases. He set up a one-man company called Oakley International, formed after Madeleine disappeared. Yet the McCanns’ spokesman claimed Oakley were ‘the big boys’ in international private detection. The McCanns are said to have paid Halligen £500,000, which he squandered on high living and hard drinking, achieving nothing. At present (January 2011), he has been in Belmarsh High Security Prison over a year, awaiting extradition to the U.S., where he is required to answer $2 million fraud charges.
47. All the main ‘private investigation’ agencies used by the McCanns had expertise in such areas as money-laundering, fraud, state security and intelligence - not in finding missing children.
48. The McCanns have produced 16 different artists’ impressions of suspects, ‘persons of interest’ and ‘persons we wish to eliminate from our enquiries’. Yet despite their spending millions of pounds, we, the public, know nothing whatsoever about who is supposed to have abducted Madeleine.
49. The McCanns took legal action to ban Mr Amaral’s book on the case: ‘The Truth About A Lie’. They succeeded in September 2009. But in October 2010 the Portuguese Appeal Court lifted that ban. The McCanns are carrying on with their libel action against Mr Amaral, using their Fund to do so.
50. The McCanns said late last year that their Fund was running low and that the Fund ‘might run out of money soon’. Yet at the very same time, they were negotiating a multi-million pound book deal.
Published by ‘The Madeleine McCann Research Group’
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50 shocking facts in the McCann Case.
In August 2008 the Portuguese police released all evidence in the Madeleine McCann case. For some reason the media won't share this information so it's now our job to inform the public of the facts in the McCann case and direct them to the official police files.
1) There isn't any evidence at all in the police files that suggest Madeleine McCann was abducted.
2) The current Efits in the McCann case came from the Smith Family, that identified Gerry as the man they saw carrying a child fitting Madeleine's description towards the beach, on the night of her disappearance.
3) British police dogs Eddie and Keela alerted 12 times in the McCann's apartment, hire car, Kate McCann's trousers, a child's top and cuddle cat.
4) Blood was found under the tiles in the McCann's apartment, on the keys to the hire car and DNA belonging to Madeleine in the boot of the hire car. The car was hired 24 days after Madeleine was reported missing.
5) Gerry and Kate both have an empty CATS file .
6) Kate didn't physically search for Madeleine.
7) The Efits that appeared on October's Crime Watch were withheld for over a year.
8) Kate refused a lie detector.
9) A member of the tapas 9, David Payne has been accused of being a paedophile. (See Gasper statements)
10) Yvonne Martin, a child protection worker recognised David Payne and believed it could have been through her job. She came to advise the McCann's but was quickly moved on by David.
11) On the documentary 'the McCann's and the conman' the private investigators had claimed Jane Tanner was lying about seeing an abductor.
12) Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions in a police interview which could have helped find her missing daughter.
13) Kate and Gerry used the fund to make payments on their mortgage.
14) Kate and Gerry had deleted all of their phone records.
15) On 1st May, 2 days before Madeleine was reported missing the McCann's upstairs neighbour Mrs Fenn had heard Madeleine crying hysterically for an hour and fifteen minutes.
16) The McCanns had lied about the shutters being smashed/Jemmied/broken, when they were checked they were perfectly in tact.
17) The McCann's were never cleared, they were suspects in the Portuguese investigation but the case was archived which meant the PJ were forced to lift their arguido status.
18) 4th May 2007 less than 24 hours after Madeleine was reported missing the UK Government's spin machine, Clarence Mitchell, was assigned to the McCann's to control what was said in the media.
19) 2 days after the McCann's were made arguidos (suspects) they flew back to the UK despite their claims that they wouldn't leave without their missing daughter.
20) Gordon Brown put pressure on the Portuguese judiciary to release a description of Tanner Man.
21) It took 45 minutes for the Portuguese police to be informed of Madeleine's disappearance.
22) In an interview, when Gerry McCann was accused of killing his child he responded with 'find the body and prove we killed her.
23) Kate McCann claimed that the abductor had moved cuddle cat which could have had the intruders print on it that could have helped the police in their searches but Kate McCann chose to wash it and carry it around with her.
24) Kate and Gerry were the first to suggest Madeleine had been killed, before this had been suggested the Portuguese Portuguese police were looking for an alive child.
25) Just two weeks after Madeleine disappeared Kate and Gerry had made Madeleine a Ward of Court.
26) The McCann's and their friends refused to do a reconstruction that would explain discrepancies in their statements.
27) The Portuguese police had advised the McCann's to not mention Madeleine's eye defect as they feared it would push the abductors to damage her eye. The McCann's ignored the advise as it was (in Gerry's own words) 'a good marketing ploy'.
28) 4th May 2007 when the police took pictures of the apartment there was Madeleine's pink blanket and Gerry's blue sports bag. Both had disappeared from the apartment.
29) The McCann's had hired 3 Carter Ruck lawyers very early on, one of which specialised in extradition.
30) The Tapas 9's statements all contradict each others.
31) There was no visible DNA found in the apartment that was available to run a match to Madeleine, the McCann's claimed all the children had shared a tooth brush which meant Gerry had to return back to the UK to retrieve Madeleine's pillowcase.
32) The McCann's Find Madeleine Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited isn't registered with the Charity Commission.
34) Kate and Gerry have spent more money out of the fund suing people than they have on the search for Madeleine.
35) Every night but 3rd May, one of the tapas members would stay at home, apparently sick with a mysterious virus.
36) The McCann's tried to get the Chief Inspector's book banned that was based on the official police files, the judge overturned that decision and the book has now been returned to the shelves.
37) Gerry McCann was spotted laughing days after Madeleine had been reported missing.
38) In Kate McCann's book - madeleine. Kate speaks in a very inappropriate and disturbing way about her daughters 'perfect genitals being torn apart'.
39) Kate and Gerry have never followed up any sightings of their missing daughter.
40) On Madeleine's 4th birthday, a few days after she was reported missing Kate and Gerry were recorded laughing hysterically as they were leaving the church.
41) A few days after Madeleine had disappeared Father Pacheco gave the McCann's keys to his church, 7 months later he told friends that he had been deceived, he claimed the McCann's had done nothing but cause him problems and they have ruined him. He removed all traces of Madeleine from his church. Investigators were convinced Kate had confessed to him but he insisted he would stand by his priestly vow.
42) Gerry McCann claimed to have felt something wasn't right when he did his check, he said he felt someone may have been in the room whilst he was in the apartment but didn't check to see.
43) On Gerry McCann's second trip back to the UK just minutes after arriving in London, he apparently had his wallet stolen which meant he needed to block all his credit and debit cards. The thief managed to avoid all CCTV. Gerry used his blog to report the return of his wallet, minus the Sterling but with his driving licence, credit cards and €30 in cash still inside. He blogs that there were also 'one or two other important things'.
44) Philomena McCann claimed in an interview that Kate and Gerry haven't told the twins where Madeleine is but quickly back tracked and said 'not that they know where she is'.
45) The McCann's took a trip to Huelva they set off at 9am for the 130-mile trip to Huelva. The journey normally takes two hours but the McCanns did not arrive in the city until 12.15pm.
46) Kate McCann claimed Madeleine was a difficult child that she found hard to control, she said she would cry for attention for up to 18 hours a day and would be giving the abductor her tuppence worth.
47) Kate and Gerry didn't give the Portuguese police Madeleine's medical record when it had been requested.
48) Crucial files relating to Madeleine McCann’s disappearance are being kept secret by Theresa May and her team to avoid a diplomatic war with Portugal.
49) The Portuguese police were very concerned the intruder had sedated Sean and Amelie the night Madeleine disappeared but it wasn't until 144 days after, the McCann's had them tested.
50) Martin Brunt reported live on Sky News that the DNA found in the boot of the hire car was a 100% match to Madeleine, then a few days later reports changed to 15/19 markers matching to Madeleine's DNA.
50 facts about the case that the British media are not telling you
Among other things you’ll find in the new leaflet that is to be printed in the New Year:
The major contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and friends
The highly trained British police dogs who detected the scent of a corpse
Strange things the McCanns have said and done
How the McCanns wasted public money on useless private detectives
Can we be sure that Madeleine McCann really was abducted by a stranger? Please take a careful look at these facts about the case, which you won’t find in any of our mainstream media. And if you are concerned about the contents of this leaflet, please copy and pass on to your friends and contacts.
SECTION A. What happened before and after Madeleine was reported missing?
1. The McCanns originally claimed they found the shutters and window of the children’s room open. They ’phoned relatives that night saying: ‘An abductor broke in and took Madeleine’. But when police and the managers of the complex declared there was no sign of forced entry, they changed their story, saying they must have left the patio doors open. The window had been cleaned the day before. Only Kate McCann’s fingerprints were found on the window.
2. The McCanns gave different accounts of whether they were both with Madeleine at tea-time on the day Madeleine was reported missing - and gave three different versions of who read the children bedtime stories the night Madeleine was reported missing: (a) Kate (b) Gerry or (c) they both did.
3. Kate McCann said that their friend Dr David Payne knocked on the front door of their apartment at about 6.30pm on 3 May, but was immediately sent away without ever entering. Dr Payne, however, said he came in, saw all three children dressed ready for bed, and stayed for at least several minutes.
4. The McCanns said the children were in their pyjamas by 6.30pm the night Madeleine disappeared, were bathed at 7.00pm and asleep by 7.30pm. But just a few weeks later, in his blog, Gerry McCann wrote: “The twins must like their new cots as they were asleep by 7.30pm which was most unusual”.
5. Dr Matthew Oldfield claimed he and his wife arrived at the Tapas bar at 8.55pm, but then went back to the Paynes’ apartment to chase them up as they were late. Dr Russell O’Brien confirmed that: “Matt, around 9pm, got up and said ‘I’ll go and drag them out’.” The Paynes flatly contradicted this.
6. Dr Matthew Oldfield changed his story several times. He said he did one ‘check’ on the children, then said he’d done two. He changed his story about the 2nd check, first saying that he walked by the McCanns’ apartment, later saying he’d entered it. Dr Kate McCann claimed Dr Oldfield said, at 9.30pm: “I’ll check on Maddie for you”. Why didn’t he say: “I’ll check on the children?”
7. The McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner insisted she’d seen someone carrying a child close to the McCanns’ apartment at 9.15pm the evening she was reported missing. But she changed her description of this person several times. Later, one of the McCanns’ detectives said she might have seen a woman, not a man. She claimed that when she saw this man, she walked past Gerry McCann and a friend, Jez Wilkins. But neither of them could remember seeing her.
8. Instead of looking for Madeleine, two friends of the McCanns tore off the cover of Madeleine’s Activity Sticker Book, writing down what they claimed was a record of the night’s events. They then wrote out a second timeline of what they said happened. In both versions, they said Jane Tanner had seen an abductor around 9.15pm. But she did not tell the McCanns what she had seen for 24 hours.
9. The McCanns claimed they were dining yards from their children, said they could see their room, and said it was ‘just like being in your back garden’. In truth, the children’s room was 120 yards away and the children’s room was on the far side of the apartment block and they couldn’t see their room.
10. Gerry McCann on 4 May (the day after Madeleine went missing) said: “Yesterday, Madeleine and and the twins were put to bed in their respective beds at 7.30pm”. Yet when the police arrived at about 11.00pm, they found a bed where Madeleine was supposed to have slept and two cots. Moreover, in a magazine interview in January 2008, Gerry McCann said: “On one bed the twins lay sleeping.
11. The McCanns said Madeleine and younger brother Sean were crying on their own the night before she was reported missing. Yet they left all three children on their own again the very next night.
12. Gerry McCann claimed that a senior Social Services official had told him: “Your child care was well within the bounds of responsible parenting”. He has never said who that was.
13. The McCanns, when asked a simple question as to whether they had given the children Calpol or other sedatives the night Madeleine was reported missing, denied on TV ever giving their children Calpol or other sedatives. But Kate McCann’s father confirmed that they did give the children Calpol.
14. The McCanns said: “Madeleine does not like to be called Maddie and does not answer to Maddie”. But Gerry McCann called her ‘Maddie’ on Friends Reunited, the twins called her ‘Maddie’, and their relatives and friends called her ‘Maddie’. A long list of examples is at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
15. Kate McCann said that when she went to their apartment at 10.00pm on 3 May, she was 100% sure that Madeleine had been ‘taken’. But the McCanns allowed their 7 friends, several staff from the Ocean Club, and others, to traipse all round their apartment, thus contaminating a crime scene where vital forensic evidence could have been found. The police found no forensic trace of any abductor.
16. On the night Madeleine was reported missing, two sets of police arrived, the local GNR, and then the national force, the PJ. On the first occasion, Gerry McCann fell down on his knees, spreading out his arms on the ground, rather like a Muslim at prayer. On the second occasion, both Gerry and Kate McCann repeated that same strange gesture, on the double bed in their apartment, in front of the PJ.
17. On 4 May, the day after Madeleine went missing, the McCanns were returning to Praia da Luz. The police seized CCTV film at a petrol station, showing a girl similar to Madeleine with two adults. The police asked the McCanns to return to Portimão, but Kate McCann became irritated at being asked to visit the police station again. The police said she showed no hope Madeleine could be found.
18. In a BBC TV interview, Kate McCann admitted that she had never spent any time at all physically looking for Madeleine.
19. The Portuguese police were told by British police: “The McCanns have no credit or ATM cards”. But their flights to Portugal and hire of a Renault Scenic in Portugal were paid with credit cards. Then Gerry McCann admitted having credit cards, saying they went missing after his wallet was stolen. He gave two different places where his wallet was stolen: Waterloo Station - or ‘near Downing Street’.
20. After she was taken in for questioning on 7 September, Kate McCann was asked 48 questions by the Portuguese police. She refused to answer any of them. She was asked if she realised that she was hindering the investigation by refusing to answer questions. She said: “Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks”. Their official spokesman, former head of Labour’s Media Unit, Clarence Mitchell, stated: “The McCanns were fully within their rights not to co-operate”.
21. Mitchell was appointed the McCanns’ spokesman by former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Mitchell once boasted that as the £75,000-a-year Head of Unit, his job was ‘to control what comes out in the media’. When Mitchell’s post with the McCanns became part-time, he immediately landed a job with Freud Communications, owned and managed by Rupert Murdoch’s son-in-law, Matthew Freud.
22. The McCanns said publicly in August 2007: “We will take a lie detector test at any time”. Then a newspaper offered to pay for one. They then changed their mind and said they wouldn’t.
23. Some months after they returned to England, the McCanns and their friends were asked by Portuguese police to take part in a reconstruction of the events of 3 May 2007. They all refused.
24. When asked by a Portuguese journalist from Sol to give some details about Madeleine’s abduction, the McCanns’ friend Dr David Payne said: “This is our matter only. We have a pact of silence. All comments must go through Gerry McCann”.
25. The McCanns’ friends gave three different versions of how often they were supposedly checking the children - hourly, half-hourly and ‘every 15 minutes’.
26. The Portuguese police did not believe that the McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner was telling the truth about the abductor she claimed to have seen. Following a series of mobile ’phone conversations between Gerry McCann and former Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Brown pressurised the Portuguese authorities to allow Gerry McCann himself to release a description based on Tanner’s dubious claims.
27. The Home Office refused the Portuguese police permission to examine the McCanns’ credit card and bank statements, mobile ’phone records and Madeleine’s medical records.
28. Gordon Brown was told that Portuguese detective Mr Amaral, who took the McCanns in for questioning, would be removed from his post before he himself was informed.
SECTION B. The evidence of the cadaver dogs
29. On British police advice, the Portuguese asked top dog handler Martin Grime to bring his springer spaniels, Eddie and Keela, to Praia da Luz. Eddie is trained to detect the scent of human corpses; Keela is a bloodhound. Eddie had never given a false alert in over 200 previous outings. He alerted to the odour of a human corpse in these locations: four different places in the McCanns’ apartment, two of Dr Kate McCann’s clothes, one of the children’s T-shirts, on the pink soft toy, ‘Cuddle Cat’, and in two places in the car the McCanns hired. Eddie did not alert to a corpse scent anywhere else in Praia da Luz. Keela detected blood, which may have been Madeleine’s blood, at some of these places.
30. When they heard about the dogs’ findings, the McCanns reacted strangely, claiming that…
The ‘smell of death’ may have been found on Kate’s clothes because she was said to have been close to six corpses in her last two weeks at work, on the pink soft toy ‘Cuddle Cat’ because she ‘sometimes took Cuddle Cat to work’, or that the ‘smell of death’ could have come from rotting meat that Gerry McCann was taking to the local rubbish dump from time to time
If Madeleine’s DNA, were to be found in the boot of their car, it may have come from the children’s dirty nappies they claimed they were carrying in the boot
Any blood found in the flat might have come from Madeleine ‘grazing her leg’ or suffering a nosebleed. In fact, with the help of Martin Grime’s bloodhound, the police found blood underneath the tiles below a window in the living room of the McCanns’ apartment.
31. The McCanns also claimed that sniffer dogs were ‘notoriously unreliable’. They quoted a U.S. case where a cadaver dog’s alert was said to be wrong. Months later, the dog’s alert was proved right.
32. In 2008, a Portuguese TV interviewer asked: “How can you explain the scent of cadaver found by the British dogs?” Kate McCann replied: “Maybe you should ask the judiciary. They have examined all evidence”. When the interviewer pressed Kate McCann for an explanation, Gerry McCann intervened, smirking, and replied: “Ask the dogs, Sandra”.
33. When the McCanns moved from their apartment to a villa in Praia da Luz, a neighbour saw their car boot left open all night long. A relative of the McCanns, Michael Wright, admitted to police that this was because of a horrible smell in the car. This was the same car where Eddie, the cadaver dog, alerted to the smell of a corpse.
34. Kate McCann clutched ‘Cuddle Cat’ in front of TV cameras, claiming it reminded her of Madeleine, and was ‘comforting’. Yet shortly before the sniffer dogs arrived, she washed Cuddle Cat, claiming it ‘smelled of sun tan lotion’. This would make forensic analysis of it much harder.
SECTION C. Strange things the McCanns have said and done
35. The McCanns ignored police advice not to publicise Madeleine’s distinctive mark in her right eye, a ‘coloboma’. They said that if she was with an abductor, it could place her life in danger. On 15 July 2009, Gerry McCann said: “We thought it was possible that publicising her coloboma could harm Madeleine. Her abductor might do something to her eye. But in marketing terms it was a good ploy”.
36. Kate McCann, in 2007, said: “I know that what happened is not due to the fact of us leaving the children asleep. I know it happened under other circumstances”.
37. On 3 June 2007, Gerry McCann said: “We want a big event to raise awareness she is still missing…It won’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that”. On 28 June, he said: “I have no doubt we will be able to sustain a high profile for Madeleine’s disappearance in the long-term”.
38. On 11 December 2009, Gerry McCann said: “There is no evidence that we were involved in Madeleine’s death”. The previous year, the McCanns’ spokesman said: “Can I suggest you actually quote me accurately. I said: ‘I believe Kate and Gerry are not responsible for Madeleine’s death’.”
39. On 24 August 2007, Gerry McCann, in a Scottish TV interview, said: “In fact, one of the slight positives in all of this is that there is so much rumour about what did and didn't happen, it's actually very difficult, if you're reading the newspapers, watching TV, to know what is true and what's not”.
40. Asked to comment on his reaction at learning that Madeleine had been abducted, Dr Gerald McCann said: ‘It was like being told you were overdrawn on your student loan”.
41. Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said in September 2007: “There is a wholly innocent explanation for any material the police may or may not have found”.
42. Unlike most couples who lose a dear child, they did not cling to their other two children. Others cared for them while they flew round the world to meet the Pope, visit the U.S. and do TV interviews.
43. As with all of us, the McCanns’ body language may yield valuable clues. During TV interviews, the following conduct has been observed: avoiding eye contact, nervous twitching, tense facial expressions, shaking their heads while making various assertions, and touching or scratching their faces at difficult moments. They were seen smiling and laughing on what would have been Madeleine’s 4th birthday, just 10 days after she went missing. Many people say they have not seen evidence of the grief that couples would normally express if they had lost a much-loved daughter.
SECTION D. The Fund and the McCanns’ private detectives
44. Only 13% of the McCanns’ Find Madeleine Fund has been spent on searching for Madeleine. The Fund is a private company, not a charity. Much of it has been used on the McCanns’ legal expenses.
45. The first detectives the McCanns employed were the highly controversial Spanish group Metodo 3. Just before Christmas 2007, their boss, Francisco Marco, boasted his men were ‘closing in on Madeleine’s kidnappers’, promising ‘Madeleine will be home by Christmas’. These were lies.
46. Next, the McCanns turned to a private investigator called Kevin Halligen, who has various aliases. He set up a one-man company called Oakley International, formed after Madeleine disappeared. Yet the McCanns’ spokesman claimed Oakley were ‘the big boys’ in international private detection. The McCanns are said to have paid Halligen £500,000, which he squandered on high living and hard drinking, achieving nothing. At present (January 2011), he has been in Belmarsh High Security Prison over a year, awaiting extradition to the U.S., where he is required to answer $2 million fraud charges.
47. All the main ‘private investigation’ agencies used by the McCanns had expertise in such areas as money-laundering, fraud, state security and intelligence - not in finding missing children.
48. The McCanns have produced 16 different artists’ impressions of suspects, ‘persons of interest’ and ‘persons we wish to eliminate from our enquiries’. Yet despite their spending millions of pounds, we, the public, know nothing whatsoever about who is supposed to have abducted Madeleine.
49. The McCanns took legal action to ban Mr Amaral’s book on the case: ‘The Truth About A Lie’. They succeeded in September 2009. But in October 2010 the Portuguese Appeal Court lifted that ban. The McCanns are carrying on with their libel action against Mr Amaral, using their Fund to do so.
50. The McCanns said late last year that their Fund was running low and that the Fund ‘might run out of money soon’. Yet at the very same time, they were negotiating a multi-million pound book deal.
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50 shocking facts in the McCann Case.
In August 2008 the Portuguese police released all evidence in the Madeleine McCann case. For some reason the media won't share this information so it's now our job to inform the public of the facts in the McCann case and direct them to the official police files.
1) There isn't any evidence at all in the police files that suggest Madeleine McCann was abducted.
2) The current Efits in the McCann case came from the Smith Family, that identified Gerry as the man they saw carrying a child fitting Madeleine's description towards the beach, on the night of her disappearance.
3) British police dogs Eddie and Keela alerted 12 times in the McCann's apartment, hire car, Kate McCann's trousers, a child's top and cuddle cat.
4) Blood was found under the tiles in the McCann's apartment, on the keys to the hire car and DNA belonging to Madeleine in the boot of the hire car. The car was hired 24 days after Madeleine was reported missing.
5) Gerry and Kate both have an empty CATS file .
6) Kate didn't physically search for Madeleine.
7) The Efits that appeared on October's Crime Watch were withheld for over a year.
8) Kate refused a lie detector.
9) A member of the tapas 9, David Payne has been accused of being a paedophile. (See Gasper statements)
10) Yvonne Martin, a child protection worker recognised David Payne and believed it could have been through her job. She came to advise the McCann's but was quickly moved on by David.
11) On the documentary 'the McCann's and the conman' the private investigators had claimed Jane Tanner was lying about seeing an abductor.
12) Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions in a police interview which could have helped find her missing daughter.
13) Kate and Gerry used the fund to make payments on their mortgage.
14) Kate and Gerry had deleted all of their phone records.
15) On 1st May, 2 days before Madeleine was reported missing the McCann's upstairs neighbour Mrs Fenn had heard Madeleine crying hysterically for an hour and fifteen minutes.
16) The McCanns had lied about the shutters being smashed/Jemmied/broken, when they were checked they were perfectly in tact.
17) The McCann's were never cleared, they were suspects in the Portuguese investigation but the case was archived which meant the PJ were forced to lift their arguido status.
18) 4th May 2007 less than 24 hours after Madeleine was reported missing the UK Government's spin machine, Clarence Mitchell, was assigned to the McCann's to control what was said in the media.
19) 2 days after the McCann's were made arguidos (suspects) they flew back to the UK despite their claims that they wouldn't leave without their missing daughter.
20) Gordon Brown put pressure on the Portuguese judiciary to release a description of Tanner Man.
21) It took 45 minutes for the Portuguese police to be informed of Madeleine's disappearance.
22) In an interview, when Gerry McCann was accused of killing his child he responded with 'find the body and prove we killed her.
23) Kate McCann claimed that the abductor had moved cuddle cat which could have had the intruders print on it that could have helped the police in their searches but Kate McCann chose to wash it and carry it around with her.
24) Kate and Gerry were the first to suggest Madeleine had been killed, before this had been suggested the Portuguese Portuguese police were looking for an alive child.
25) Just two weeks after Madeleine disappeared Kate and Gerry had made Madeleine a Ward of Court.
26) The McCann's and their friends refused to do a reconstruction that would explain discrepancies in their statements.
27) The Portuguese police had advised the McCann's to not mention Madeleine's eye defect as they feared it would push the abductors to damage her eye. The McCann's ignored the advise as it was (in Gerry's own words) 'a good marketing ploy'.
28) 4th May 2007 when the police took pictures of the apartment there was Madeleine's pink blanket and Gerry's blue sports bag. Both had disappeared from the apartment.
29) The McCann's had hired 3 Carter Ruck lawyers very early on, one of which specialised in extradition.
30) The Tapas 9's statements all contradict each others.
31) There was no visible DNA found in the apartment that was available to run a match to Madeleine, the McCann's claimed all the children had shared a tooth brush which meant Gerry had to return back to the UK to retrieve Madeleine's pillowcase.
32) The McCann's Find Madeleine Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited isn't registered with the Charity Commission.
34) Kate and Gerry have spent more money out of the fund suing people than they have on the search for Madeleine.
35) Every night but 3rd May, one of the tapas members would stay at home, apparently sick with a mysterious virus.
36) The McCann's tried to get the Chief Inspector's book banned that was based on the official police files, the judge overturned that decision and the book has now been returned to the shelves.
37) Gerry McCann was spotted laughing days after Madeleine had been reported missing.
38) In Kate McCann's book - madeleine. Kate speaks in a very inappropriate and disturbing way about her daughters 'perfect genitals being torn apart'.
39) Kate and Gerry have never followed up any sightings of their missing daughter.
40) On Madeleine's 4th birthday, a few days after she was reported missing Kate and Gerry were recorded laughing hysterically as they were leaving the church.
41) A few days after Madeleine had disappeared Father Pacheco gave the McCann's keys to his church, 7 months later he told friends that he had been deceived, he claimed the McCann's had done nothing but cause him problems and they have ruined him. He removed all traces of Madeleine from his church. Investigators were convinced Kate had confessed to him but he insisted he would stand by his priestly vow.
42) Gerry McCann claimed to have felt something wasn't right when he did his check, he said he felt someone may have been in the room whilst he was in the apartment but didn't check to see.
43) On Gerry McCann's second trip back to the UK just minutes after arriving in London, he apparently had his wallet stolen which meant he needed to block all his credit and debit cards. The thief managed to avoid all CCTV. Gerry used his blog to report the return of his wallet, minus the Sterling but with his driving licence, credit cards and €30 in cash still inside. He blogs that there were also 'one or two other important things'.
44) Philomena McCann claimed in an interview that Kate and Gerry haven't told the twins where Madeleine is but quickly back tracked and said 'not that they know where she is'.
45) The McCann's took a trip to Huelva they set off at 9am for the 130-mile trip to Huelva. The journey normally takes two hours but the McCanns did not arrive in the city until 12.15pm.
46) Kate McCann claimed Madeleine was a difficult child that she found hard to control, she said she would cry for attention for up to 18 hours a day and would be giving the abductor her tuppence worth.
47) Kate and Gerry didn't give the Portuguese police Madeleine's medical record when it had been requested.
48) Crucial files relating to Madeleine McCann’s disappearance are being kept secret by Theresa May and her team to avoid a diplomatic war with Portugal.
49) The Portuguese police were very concerned the intruder had sedated Sean and Amelie the night Madeleine disappeared but it wasn't until 144 days after, the McCann's had them tested.
50) Martin Brunt reported live on Sky News that the DNA found in the boot of the hire car was a 100% match to Madeleine, then a few days later reports changed to 15/19 markers matching to Madeleine's DNA.
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Excellent work, well done. These will really grab peoples' attention.
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There are very few in authority who can plead plead ignorance. However, if there are a few stragglers left wandering around in the Mitchell McCann mire, we can throw them a rope by handing them a copy of this.
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This leaflet promises to get the New Year off to a great start
People everywhere will get to read what the media have been determined to keep hidden from them
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That first timeline was given to the GNR when they arrived around 11 p.m., which means that every single one of them must have been fully aware of Jane's little vision before the GNR had even arrived.
So all this crap about Jane not mention it to anyone until the following day is 100% total bullshit.
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That first timeline was given to the GNR when they arrived around 11 p.m., which means that every single one of them must have been fully aware of Jane's little vision before the GNR had even arrived.
So all this crap about Jane not mention it to anyone until the following day is 100% total bullshit.
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It's not my work - it was a joint effort by the 'Madeleine McCann Research Group' as stated in the OP.
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Hi everyone.
That was a very good compilation of events.
Number 30 though, I think may have overlooked a very important piece of the puzzle.
I may be wrong, so feel free to scold me, but wasn`t Kate said to be on maternity leave when in Portugal? so wouldn`t have even been at work for some time as the twins were 2 years & three months in May `07.
If indeed it is possible to be on maternity leave for that long.
That was a very good compilation of events.
Number 30 though, I think may have overlooked a very important piece of the puzzle.
I may be wrong, so feel free to scold me, but wasn`t Kate said to be on maternity leave when in Portugal? so wouldn`t have even been at work for some time as the twins were 2 years & three months in May `07.
If indeed it is possible to be on maternity leave for that long.
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weneva wrote:Hi everyone.
That was a very good compilation of events.
Number 30 though, I think may have overlooked a very important piece of the puzzle.
I may be wrong, so feel free to scold me, but wasn`t Kate said to be on maternity leave when in Portugal? so wouldn`t have even been at work for some time as the twins were 2 years & three months in May `07.
If indeed it is possible to be on maternity leave for that long.
weneva and welcome,
I don't think I have read anywhere that KM was on maternity leave apart from forums and have always assumed this to be a forum myth, is there anywhere else you have seen this? As you say it would be an awfully long time to be on maternity leave.
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This is a very good leaflet and cannot be challenged by Carter Ruck, as it simply does contain facts!
I too read that Kate was on Maternity Leave at the time they were in Portugal, but I do not think that that can be correct. She was working as a locum - in other words, as a temp. She would not have been entitled to any holiday or sick pay, or maternity pay - she would only get the Government handout, which is very small - even allowing for the length of time. I have never heard of anyone being on Maternity Leave for 2 years.
We know that Kate had to work because Philomena said that they family were dependent on her salary as well as Gerry's. Well, she hasn't been working for the last 4 years now, so how have they managed to live? Do not think too hard about the answer to this one.
I too read that Kate was on Maternity Leave at the time they were in Portugal, but I do not think that that can be correct. She was working as a locum - in other words, as a temp. She would not have been entitled to any holiday or sick pay, or maternity pay - she would only get the Government handout, which is very small - even allowing for the length of time. I have never heard of anyone being on Maternity Leave for 2 years.
We know that Kate had to work because Philomena said that they family were dependent on her salary as well as Gerry's. Well, she hasn't been working for the last 4 years now, so how have they managed to live? Do not think too hard about the answer to this one.
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I am relieved that I was not alone in reading about the maternity leave, however I don`t know where I read it.
More lies, what`s new?
More lies, what`s new?
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weneva wrote:I am relieved that I was not alone in reading about the maternity leave, however I don`t know where I read it.
More lies, what`s new?
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I think it is in the PJ files (I don't know where, exactly) that she was on "maternity leave", however this might be a mistranslation.
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What? Maternity leave? Yet during the two years of maternity leave period managed to get perfumed by 6 cadaverine? Remember their explanation for KM's pants of ganga? Remote contamination or misreport?
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From Gerry's arguido statement
After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as mentioned above.
From Gerry's arguido statement
After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as mentioned above.
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Thank you Annabel.
Phewwww, I knew I`d seen it.
Phewwww, I knew I`d seen it.
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Preferential treatment from NHS then, two years maternity leave is unusual.
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She works for the local NHS as a GP in Latham House, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire. She is currently on maternity leave.
That letter is date 16th May 2008 - Madeleine disappeared in 2007 how could she have been on maternity leave it says currently??
She works for the local NHS as a GP in Latham House, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire. She is currently on maternity leave.
That letter is date 16th May 2008 - Madeleine disappeared in 2007 how could she have been on maternity leave it says currently??
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ETA the twins would have been well over 3 years old!!
She works for the local NHS as a GP in Latham House, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire. She is currently on maternity leave.
That letter is date 16th May 2008 - Madeleine disappeared in 2007 how could she have been on maternity leave it says currently??
ETA the twins would have been well over 3 years old!!
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As pointed out by Autumn according to GM in his interview
Gerry McCann's arguido statement: 07 September 2007
Arguido questioning of Gerald Patrick McCann, on the 7th of September 2007, at 4.05 p.m.
Processos Vol IV, pages 2569-2578
Location: CID Portimão
When questioned, he says that he works at the Emergency Room of the hospital where he works every 15 days, however he is not usually called out at night, and if this happens then it is once for 4 days' prevention. Kate's specialty is general medicine, but she only works two days a week. After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as mentioned above[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Gerry McCann's arguido statement: 07 September 2007
Arguido questioning of Gerald Patrick McCann, on the 7th of September 2007, at 4.05 p.m.
Processos Vol IV, pages 2569-2578
Location: CID Portimão
When questioned, he says that he works at the Emergency Room of the hospital where he works every 15 days, however he is not usually called out at night, and if this happens then it is once for 4 days' prevention. Kate's specialty is general medicine, but she only works two days a week. After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as mentioned above[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Here is a strange quote...
To my knowledge, here in the UK, it is only illegal to retain a corpse if the relevant authorities have not been informed and the death has not been certified.
Question: "How do you account for the reaction of your dogs inside apartment 5A, indicating the presence of a corpse?"
M. Grime: "The dogs indicated to me that was at one time a corpse in that apartment. The McCanns might have had a corpse in the apartment, having said that however unpleasent that seems as far as I know there is no law against someone keeping a corpse."
To my knowledge, here in the UK, it is only illegal to retain a corpse if the relevant authorities have not been informed and the death has not been certified.
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PFA2 gets it wrong about the '50 Facts' leaflet, claiming that quotes from the files are 'recycled newspaper quotes'. Try having a look at the files some time over at PFA2...
The McCann-believers have reacted against the '50 Facts' leaflet whcih Jill has published.
Here are some of their comments, with my replies in red:
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QUOTE: At Jill Havern's forum, someone has started a thread entitled "50 facts about the Maddie case that the British media are not telling you". Well I had a read through these "facts" and was instantly able to understand why the media are not "telling" us about them. What the poster has listed as "facts" is simply regurgitated unsubstantiated garbage which tabloid newspapers published in the early days following Madeleine's disappearance. If the poster were to have been honest enough to cite the sources, no-one with a brain cell would be impressed.
REPLY: As far as i could see, most of the quotes are from the PJ Files, not from media sources at all. I suspect those at PFA2 know this perfectly well but are recycling their tired old refrain: "The McCann-sceptics only quote from old media stories and speculation".
QUOTE: I recall having a discussion with a rabid anti on the Websleuths Madeleine forum shortly before the owner pulled it. This poster was railing about what [were] called McCann inconsistencies. As proof of their inconsistencies, she cited several different tabloid stories which were reporting the same story, but each slightly differently. She could not or would not consider the possibility that the discrepancies were due to the various spins the different tabloids were putting on it. She could not or would not consider the FACT that since none of the stories had come directly from the McCanns and that all were therefore hearsay and speculation, that the story might be weak on authenticity.
REPLY: See above. Again, so far as I can see, nearly all of the detail comes from the files. It might be an idea, though, to add the sources for the direct quotes, even though this would make the leaflet longer.
QUOTE: Yesterday, it was reported that there is a list of "50,000 suckers" which criminals use to target their scams - i.e. gullible people who will believe anyone who tells them what they want to hear. My immediate thought was of those "suckers" who chose and still choose to believe any source which tells them what they want to hear about the McCann case. These are people who continued to believe tabloid "sources" even when these "sources" were discredited time and time again.
REPLY: When we all know what really happened in this case, which Clarence Mitchell earlier this year called 'a complete mystery', THEN we will know who are the gullible ones.
QUOTE: Stupidity + gullibility + black soul = Goon.
REPLY: Que?
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QUOTE: I confess to finding it rather amusing that the '50 facts the media wont tell you' came quite largely FROM the media, in pre-libel case days. Some of the rest of them are Amaral lies/forum myths reapeated endlessly so that many simply accept they are true without checking for themselves, like the old canard about Jane Tanner having changed her description many times.
REPLY: I believe this priceless accumulation of untruths comes from someone supposed to be the 'brains' of the McCann-believer world (!).
QUOTE: It's like when they orchestrate a comment bombing of a Daily Mail article and then "innocently" make observations about public opinion being against the McCanns.
REPLY: If there's any 'orchestration' going on, there's a heck of a lot of people being 'orchestrated'.
QUOTE: I wonder what it's like to be so deluded to think that the "facts" weren't out there when the people you think are guilty WERE MADE SUSPECTS. This is something I've been musing over lately - it hit me with the InsideOut show, with Bennett's complaints that the Foundation wasn't given to the chance to put "their side" forward.
"Their side" was the working theory of the investigation for at least 3 months and the McCanns' arguido status was retained for over a year. The fact that it was had to mean that even Rebelo, etc. worked at least partially on that theory. "Their side" had its damn day, a totally undeserved one, for over a year. I mean, you've got to be kidding - what more do you want? All of the smears and lies about pedophilia and the like are just desperation - the core of their theory is the McCanns know Madeleine is dead and covered up her body. They were made suspects on that basis. There's no evidence to support it. It's completely untrue. Yet it still got its day. It's NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, fools. WAKE UP. It's NOT TRUE. The truth is, most of them don't care if it's true or not. You see it in the smugness over the comments on the Portuguese papers that are anti-McCann - they just hate the McCanns, and right now, most of the Amaral crowd cares far more about the Rotund Inspector than they do about Madeleine McCann. It stopped being about little Madeleine McCann when Amaral declared her dead at her parents' hands - she stopped being Portugal's problem and went back to being the McCanns' problem.
At this point, best case scenario for the antis is that no one ever figures out what happened to Madeleine. Amaral can continue to go on Portugal's trashiest television shows and be hidden in the back of newspapers that make the Sun and New York Post look like bastions of journalism, the McCanns will continue to be desperate and saddened, and they can sit on the internet wading through news articles digitally yellowing...
REPLY: In all these rants, not one fact on the 'FIFTY FACTS' leaflet has yet been dented by the McCann-believers'.
Here are some of their comments, with my replies in red:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QUOTE: At Jill Havern's forum, someone has started a thread entitled "50 facts about the Maddie case that the British media are not telling you". Well I had a read through these "facts" and was instantly able to understand why the media are not "telling" us about them. What the poster has listed as "facts" is simply regurgitated unsubstantiated garbage which tabloid newspapers published in the early days following Madeleine's disappearance. If the poster were to have been honest enough to cite the sources, no-one with a brain cell would be impressed.
REPLY: As far as i could see, most of the quotes are from the PJ Files, not from media sources at all. I suspect those at PFA2 know this perfectly well but are recycling their tired old refrain: "The McCann-sceptics only quote from old media stories and speculation".
QUOTE: I recall having a discussion with a rabid anti on the Websleuths Madeleine forum shortly before the owner pulled it. This poster was railing about what [were] called McCann inconsistencies. As proof of their inconsistencies, she cited several different tabloid stories which were reporting the same story, but each slightly differently. She could not or would not consider the possibility that the discrepancies were due to the various spins the different tabloids were putting on it. She could not or would not consider the FACT that since none of the stories had come directly from the McCanns and that all were therefore hearsay and speculation, that the story might be weak on authenticity.
REPLY: See above. Again, so far as I can see, nearly all of the detail comes from the files. It might be an idea, though, to add the sources for the direct quotes, even though this would make the leaflet longer.
QUOTE: Yesterday, it was reported that there is a list of "50,000 suckers" which criminals use to target their scams - i.e. gullible people who will believe anyone who tells them what they want to hear. My immediate thought was of those "suckers" who chose and still choose to believe any source which tells them what they want to hear about the McCann case. These are people who continued to believe tabloid "sources" even when these "sources" were discredited time and time again.
REPLY: When we all know what really happened in this case, which Clarence Mitchell earlier this year called 'a complete mystery', THEN we will know who are the gullible ones.
QUOTE: Stupidity + gullibility + black soul = Goon.
REPLY: Que?
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] » Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:44 pm
QUOTE: I confess to finding it rather amusing that the '50 facts the media wont tell you' came quite largely FROM the media, in pre-libel case days. Some of the rest of them are Amaral lies/forum myths reapeated endlessly so that many simply accept they are true without checking for themselves, like the old canard about Jane Tanner having changed her description many times.
REPLY: I believe this priceless accumulation of untruths comes from someone supposed to be the 'brains' of the McCann-believer world (!).
QUOTE: It's like when they orchestrate a comment bombing of a Daily Mail article and then "innocently" make observations about public opinion being against the McCanns.
REPLY: If there's any 'orchestration' going on, there's a heck of a lot of people being 'orchestrated'.
QUOTE: I wonder what it's like to be so deluded to think that the "facts" weren't out there when the people you think are guilty WERE MADE SUSPECTS. This is something I've been musing over lately - it hit me with the InsideOut show, with Bennett's complaints that the Foundation wasn't given to the chance to put "their side" forward.
"Their side" was the working theory of the investigation for at least 3 months and the McCanns' arguido status was retained for over a year. The fact that it was had to mean that even Rebelo, etc. worked at least partially on that theory. "Their side" had its damn day, a totally undeserved one, for over a year. I mean, you've got to be kidding - what more do you want? All of the smears and lies about pedophilia and the like are just desperation - the core of their theory is the McCanns know Madeleine is dead and covered up her body. They were made suspects on that basis. There's no evidence to support it. It's completely untrue. Yet it still got its day. It's NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, fools. WAKE UP. It's NOT TRUE. The truth is, most of them don't care if it's true or not. You see it in the smugness over the comments on the Portuguese papers that are anti-McCann - they just hate the McCanns, and right now, most of the Amaral crowd cares far more about the Rotund Inspector than they do about Madeleine McCann. It stopped being about little Madeleine McCann when Amaral declared her dead at her parents' hands - she stopped being Portugal's problem and went back to being the McCanns' problem.
At this point, best case scenario for the antis is that no one ever figures out what happened to Madeleine. Amaral can continue to go on Portugal's trashiest television shows and be hidden in the back of newspapers that make the Sun and New York Post look like bastions of journalism, the McCanns will continue to be desperate and saddened, and they can sit on the internet wading through news articles digitally yellowing...
REPLY: In all these rants, not one fact on the 'FIFTY FACTS' leaflet has yet been dented by the McCann-believers'.
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Re: 50 facts about the Maddie case that the British media are not telling you
Tony Bennett wrote:REPLY: In all these rants, not one fact on the 'FIFTY FACTS' leaflet has yet been dented by the McCann-believers'.
Of course not. The aim of the Pro's is to attack the poster not the post.
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