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Post by Secondthoughts2 12.09.20 11:51

@Max Headroom

"I wouldn't go that far into conspiracy theory territory. My guess is that they found out about the phone call and CB's past and thought they were really onto solving Europe's most notorious unsolved missing person case, but leaned out of the window way too far and ended up embarrassing themselves completely. Plus, they probably searched for something to keep CB in prison for as long as they can, as he had chances of getting out a short time later and the final verdict for the ten-year prison penalty in the case of the rape in Portugal was pending."

What you say about the German authorities is as feasible as any other theory. I think most of us at the beginning of this latest nonsense, will have given some credence even in the tiniest way, if only for a split second, to the German authorities at least believing they were on to something that would solve the Maddie case.
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Post by Guest 12.09.20 11:52

We should be thankful that there has been an exhaustive and thorough investigation into this guy. There should have always been as he was 'someone of interest' for a long time. But, despite claims that he made or received phone calls in the area at the time, had lived in PDL and has a criminal record there is still not a credible shred of evidence to support the claim that he had anything to do with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. I don't think that the German investigators 'leaned out of the window way too far and embarrassed themselves completely.'  Far from it. Maybe they want to keep him in prison for other reasons I agree with that. But they have comprehensively done the right thing in ruling out yet another dud suspect in this case and, after 13 years it has become practically impossible now to 'dredge up' and point the finger at anymore people we didn't already know about without raising suspicion for them not being of interest already.
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Post by Secondthoughts2 12.09.20 11:57

@miffy8

There is  that - another suspect, investigated, fast on his way to being ruled out in the Maddie case?

The case fast running out of suspects?

Is it all heading in the right direction - a 360 - full circle - right back to Gerry and Kate McCann?
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Post by Silentscope 12.09.20 12:13

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.


Sherlock Holmes.


The Police should always be free of Politics so that they can not only provide Proof of Guilt, but Proof of Innocence.
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Post by PeterMac 12.09.20 13:27

Can anyone think of another case where the DEFENCE lawyer travelled across Europe to visit the alleged scene and then to SPEAK PERSONALLY and at length and in detail to the Senior Investigating Officer ?
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Post by Guest 12.09.20 13:37

Maddie McCann suspect Christian B may go free

The man who everyone has pegged as the “perfect” suspect behind Madeleine McCann’s disappearance is set to walk free from all his crimes.
Lottie Tiplady-Bishop, The Sun
September 12, 2020

Portuguese police fear Christian B will never go down for his suspected crimes.

It comes as Germany‘s investigation into the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case, 43, has dried up.

Christian B is currently in jail for drug offences, and is appealing a seven-year sentence for raping a 73-year-old woman as Portuguese police desperately try to ensure he has no chance of being released anytime soon.

Speaking to The Sun Online, a source said: “Although officers are continuing work around the clock, leads have dried up in recent weeks.

“They know (he) will never talk. So it will be up to them to find the missing pieces of the jigsaw to lead them to finally find out what happened to Maddie.”

Back in August, Christian B's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher said “you could order holy water as a long drink in hell” before his client co-operated with the investigation.

Now German police are desperate for new information as their case has hit a dead end.

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On Thursday a source close to the case said: “The German detectives are desperate for fresh leads to help breath new life into the investigation.

“In the first few days after Christian B‘s name was released they were receiving hundreds of new leads a week.

“But in recent weeks they have dried up and there is concern that they really need to increase the amount of intelligence they have coming in.”

Portuguese detectives feel they could offer help to the German force, and are keen to work together the source added – but communication has broken down, leaving police in Portugal fearing Christian B won‘t face retribution.

“One of the biggest issues that doesn‘t help is that the German and Portuguese police are not working that closely together,” a source said.

“The police forces in each country could really work together much more.”

‘DESPERATE FOR LEADS’
But Portuguese police were heavily criticised following Madeleine‘s 2007 disappearance after Kate and Gerry were outrageously made suspects in the disappearance of their own daughter by then bumbling Detective Goncalo Amaral.

The former Portuguese police officer, who was kicked off the case, has also long-claimed Christian B is a “scapegoat,” describing him as an “almost perfect suspect”.

At the time, police were also accused of missing crucial details, allowing witnesses to fly home from the resort in Pria da Luz and failing to lockdown the McCann‘s apartment as a crime scene.

Last week the key witness who started the new Madeleine McCann probe said of prime suspect Christian B: “One word.

Guilty,“ adding he hopes the 43-year-old will “stay in jail for a long time”.

The witness, who knew his fellow German from their time together in the resort where Madeleine vanished, was the first person to give police Christian B’s name in connection with Madeleine’s disappearance.

Following the tip, police from Britain, the UK and Germany banded together in secret for three years to track him down.

But now fears grip the forces that he could slip through the net, despite German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters, Braunschweig insisting officers was “convinced that our 43-year-old suspect is the murderer of Maddie McCann”.

And speaking to the Sun Online, Mr Wolters said he was unable to share any more information on whether police had strong leads.

“We are currently not providing any information about our investigations and previous findings,” he said.


https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-b-may-go-free/news-story/9b2f7c9d6398b1e335db0324811e9c00
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Post by Silentscope 12.09.20 13:46

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I hope that Herr Fulscher got his “Tuppence worth” and that the “Penny has dropped” somewhere useful!
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Post by Guest 12.09.20 13:51

History repeating itself. 

New suspect - strong evidence - new leads - plea for new witnesses - swamped headlines -fresh eyes - new digs - a source close to said - international police cooperation - break down in international police cooperation - case drying up .... desperation!


Read between the lines, it's all down to the bungling Portuguese police - it's all their fault.

Always has been, always will be.

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Post by Silverspeed 12.09.20 13:54

Silentscope wrote:Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.


Sherlock Holmes.


The Police should always be free of Politics so that they can not only provide Proof of Guilt, but Proof of Innocence.
Or better still investigate the obvious ...... properly.
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Post by Silentscope 12.09.20 14:13

crusader 12.09.20 wrote:If Mr Amaral had been allowed to do his job, the whole thing would have been wrapped up by 2008.

But dear Friends - he is an honest Man who seeks only the truth so that others can decide what happened.

What happened is that the others have decided that the truth cannot be allowed to become known.

Never more true words said.
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Post by sandancer 12.09.20 14:51

" Germays investigation into the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case has dried up " 

Well Lottie Tiplady-Bishop ( seriously is that a real name ?) 

I wish you and your mates would all DRY UP as well !    splat

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Post by sharonl 13.09.20 20:58

I have heard a few times today (I will find and post a link soon) that Brueckners' lawyer has been in touch with Goncalo Amaral. Suddenly, it going to take them a year to get the info that they need. If thats not backtracking I don't know what is.

I really want this trial to go ahead now but Amaral as a witness I very much doubt that the McCanns would welcome it.
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Madeleine McCann suspect 'may never be convicted of crime', fear Portuguese police

Convicted German paedophile Christian Brueckner is currently in jail for drug offences and is appealing a jail sentence for raping a 73-year-old woman

By Lorraine King

13 SEP 2020

Police in Portugal are worried the prime suspect in Madeleine McCann's disappearance will never be convicted, according to reports.

The news comes as an investigation by German detectives into Christian Brueckner relating to her disappearance is said to have "dried up".

The German paedophile is currently in Justizvollzugsanstalt Kiel prison.

He was jailed for 15 months after abusing a youngster in a park in Braunschweig, Germany in 2013, and he is trying to overturn a seven-year jail term handed down to him for raping a 73-year-old woman. He is also serving time for drug offenses.

Portuguese police are now said to to be trying to ensure he will not be released from jail anytime soon.

A source told Sun Online said: "Although officers are continuing work around the clock, leads have dried up in recent weeks.

"They know [he] will never talk. So it will be up to them to find the missing pieces of the jigsaw to lead them to finally find out what happened to Maddie."

Last month Friedrich Fülscher, Brueckner's lawyer, insisted his client had nothing to do with Madeleine's abduction and claimed he was the victim of a miscarriage of justice.

He added that Brueckner would 'never speak with investigators' as he has "nothing to hide".

"Before our client starts to cooperate with the prosecutor's office, you could order holy water as a long drink in hell," he said.

A source close to the case told Sun Online German investigators are desperate for information about Brueckner.

They added: "In the first few days after Christian B's name was released they were receiving hundreds of new leads a week.

"But in recent weeks they have dried up and there is concern that they really need to increase the amount of intelligence they have coming in."

The source also claimed that Portuguese detectives are "keen" to work together with their German counterparts but "communication has broken down".

They said the breakdown has left the Portuguese investigators fearing that Brueckner will not face any court action.

A key witness in the Madeleine's disappearance hopes that Brueckner "stays in jail for a long time”.

Helge Busching, 48, was reportedly the first person to tell police his name in connection with the investigation back in 2017.

Brueckner was living in the Algarve at the time of Madeleine's disppearance.

The information helped German police identify Brueckner as the prime suspect.

When asked what he thought of the suspect by The Sun newspaper, Mr Busching said: “One word. Guilty.”

The recycling worker added: “He is in the right place at the moment and hopefully he will stay there a long time.”

German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters, who is leading the investigation against Brueckner, told the Sun he was unable to share any more information on whether police had strong leads.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-may-never-22672643
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Last I heard, Gerry and Kate McCann were the prime suspects, the only suspects in the disapearance of Madeleine Mccann, the Portuguese investigation.

What's changed? Why would the Portuguese police now be concerned about the German prisoner for not facing trial in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann? For that is how it reads.

Funny how the tabloids manage to get exclusive information when all else fail - innit.

It would however be very interesting to learn who started this German interference. I was reading a German news report earlier today, translation thanks to google who have improved their translation service considerably since days of old. It appears, which makes sound sense to me, the German investigation was a result of a possible link with the disappearance of a five year old child - already cited here on CMOMM. Nothing to do with bar room gossip as more recently claimed by the German and UK tabloids.

This is an elaborate set-up. The Portuguese will be blamed - again!

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Post by Guest 13.09.20 22:00

The Mirror wrote:Police in Portugal are worried the prime suspect in Madeleine McCann's disappearance will never be convicted, according to reports.

Aren't we all!
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Post by sharonl 13.09.20 22:21

MADDIE PROBE STALLED Madeleine McCann prosecutors say there will be no major progress before next year in Christian B probe
EXCLUSIVE
Nick Pisa

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12653454/madeleine-mccann-prosecutors-progress-next-year-christian-b/
Braunsweig, Germany12 Sep 2020, 22:05Updated: 12 Sep 2020, 22:05

PROSECUTORS admit there will be no major progress before next year in their probe into Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B.

Convicted paedophile Christian B, 43, was identified by German officials in June as the man responsible for the British girl’s disappearance 13 years ago.

Prosecutors admit there will be no major progress before next year in their probe into Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B

Lead prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has now told The Sun on Sunday: “No new announcements will be made until the end of 2020.

“There is nothing more we can say for the time being and I cannot go into specific details.

“We have received many tips from Germany and Britain and around the world and we are working through them. That is all I can say.”

Prosecutors are talking to another new witness — who was in jail near Hanover with Christian B while he was on remand for rape in 2018.


He is the fourth witness to come forward. The Sun named the original informant as Helge Busching on Friday.

German prosecutors said they had “concrete evidence” Madeleine was dead but have not given further details.

Searches have been carried out in Germany and in Portugal — where Madeleine vanished — since Christian B was identified as a suspect but no news has been released of any findings.

Christian B’s lawyer Friedrich ­Fulscher was in Portugal last week looking for witnesses he believes can clear his client of links to Madeleine, we can also reveal.

German prosecutors said they had 'concrete evidence' Madeleine was deadCredit: Reuters


He met Portuguese former police chief Goncalo Amaral who led the hunt for Madeleine, then three, when she vanished in Praia da Luz.

He held her parents, Kate and Gerry, of Rothley, Leicestershire, as suspects.

Christian B is in jail serving 21 months for drug offences.
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German police investigating Maddie suspect “have eye on” 16-year-old Praia da Rocha rape case

By Natasha Donn

11th September 2020

German police investigating the latest prime suspect for the abduction of Madeleine McCann are refusing to confirm officially that they have reopened the case of a rape in Praia da Rocha 16 years ago.

Talking to Sky News’ crime correspondent Martin Brunt, the Braunschweig prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters who is convinced Madeleine is dead and that 43-year-old convicted pedophile Christian Brückner was responsible (click here) said: “I cannot confirm right now officially that we have an investigation in that case, but we have an eye on it. Maybe we are doing an investigation”.

In the Algarve earlier this week doing his own background checks, Brückner’s defence lawyer Friedrich Fülscher told the Resident he is under the impression German prosecutors are indeed investigating.

He believes they have already assigned the rape victim – Irish woman Hazel Behan, 37 – with her own lawyers, in spite of the fact that Behan’s original testimony rules out the possibility of her attacker having been Christian Brückner.

“Hazel B said the perpetrator had a noticeable tattoo or birthmark on his right buttock”, explained Fülscher. “That excludes Christian B straight away as he doesn’t have anything like that”.

Friedrich Fülscher is convinced his client is being fitted up for the Madeleine abduction in any way possible.

He has already highlighted the unreliability of the witness that claims his client ‘confessed’ to the abduction (click here).

Today, William Cole for the Mail Online reveals this witness’ name, and the fact that he is a convicted people trafficker.

The Mail’s article concentrates on the witness ‘hopes’ that Brückner stays in jail for a very long time, and belief that he is guilty of Madeleine’s abduction.

But without doubt, the witness has a distinctly murky past.

Friedrich Fülscher’s background checks have painted him as cruel, violent and utterly without scruples.

Talking to Martin Brunt from his office in Germany last week Fülscher stressed the witness was sentenced to seven years for people-trafficking in Greece, but got out after serving less than two.

“Why was he released after such a time? There may be different explanations. Maybe he got some benefit (from police) because he helped to solve things?”

Fülscher’s belief is that his client has been ‘cherry picked’ to be the scapegoat for Madeleine’s abduction.

“He is perfect for it: given up by his own mother for adoption, fostered to a family that has no contact with him, a history of criminal activity, drug taking and sex acts in front of children.”

As Fülscher has said before, Christian Brückner is no angel, but that does not mean he is guilty of abducting (and/ or killing Madeleine McCann).

The weeks ahead promise more and more in the way of ‘revelations’.

Media reports on Wednesday claimed a former girlfriend of Brückner’s living in Portugal has been ‘interrogated’ for over 12 hours by German prosecutors who travelled over to Faro as they “desperately try to build a case” against the 43-year-old German.

Tabloid texts referred to prosecutors assuring the former girlfriend Brückner will be in prison for a “very long time”.

But Sky’s Martin Brunt insists that “three months after he launched a global public appeal for new, vital clues” German prosecutor Hans Christian Volkers “still hasn’t got enough evidence to charge” Brückner.

Brunt’s article asks the valid question: “Have they got the right man this time?” suggesting in conclusion that he thinks “it would be wrong to describe Christian B as the only suspect in this case.

“In fact one source told me that Christian B may be no better a suspect for Madeleine’s abduction than two other principal targets” – one of which has since been eliminated from the inquiry altogether (and is dead) and the other of which is still being kept under-wraps and may no longer be an active lead (Brunt doesn’t know).

Friedrich Fülscher meantime is working ‘blind’ in that German prosecutors have still failed to share with him their evidence against his client.

“There is a legal principle, that both sides have to have the same weapons”, he told Martin Brunt. “It’s time for the prosecutor to show his cards, because he is prejudging my client in public without giving him the chance to go into action.”

The Hazel Behan rape:

This came into the public eye again following the German appeal for information on Christian Brückner broadcast in June.

Ms Behan saw the appeal, listened to the details of the rape of an American woman in Praia da Luz that Brückner has been convicted of and was “shocked at the similarities between the attack and her own experience”.

She told the Guardian: “My mind was blown when I read how he had attacked a woman in 2005, both the tactics and the methods he used, how well he had planned it out,” she said. “I puked to be honest with you, as reading about it took me right back to my experience.”

Met officers working on Operation Grange, the investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, interviewed Behan at length and said they would contact Portuguese police.

Portuguese police have since decided against reopening the investigation due to the Statute of Limitations which kicked in after 15 years.

Friedrich Fülscher told Martin Brunt that the evidence against Brückner in the case (in which he was represented by another defence lawyer) was ‘thin’.

“The most damning was that one of his hairs was found in his victim’s bed, though the suspect suggested it may have been carried there by a cat he stroked regularly outside the villa which was on his route home from the beach” Fülscher told Brunt.

Certainly, Hazel Behan never saw her attacker’s face.

She said he wore a mask throughout her five-hour ordeal. But she did describe the fact that he had blond eyebrows and ‘piercing blue eyes’ which she could see ‘even in the dark’.

https://www.portugalresident.com/german-police-investigating-maddie-suspect-have-eye-on-16-year-old-praia-da-rocha-rape-case/
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Post by Guest 14.09.20 1:31

pauloalexandre wrote:
Verdi wrote:Martin Brunt is not the focus here, he's just a crime reporter for Sky News.  
Yes, I know this.

I was just laughing at his "my search for the truth" statement.

I wasn't responding to you personally Paulo.

Martin Brunt has been vilified throughout as the bad guy, in cahoots with team McCann - which of course is entirely inaccurate. In the early days he was telling it like it was, which was very far from supportive of the McCann faction. Don't get me wrong, I don't particularly like the guy, nor think him whiter than white - I just feel he's no better or no worse than any other journalist. Anyone who can be bothered (I can't) could make a list as long as a piece of string naming journalists who have hacked tacked their name to this prolonged saga. As with Martin Brunt, the early day reports were conflicting across the broad spectrum of media outlets - for and against. Only in latter days have the pro-McCann reporters taken over.

Brunt works for SkyNews. As with any press organ, they are politically biased - in short, they report what they are told, or what conforms to the paymasters wishes. I don't think Martin Brunt is anything exceptional.

He is however a convenient distraction, when focus should be on the case of missing Madeleine McCann .... pure and simple.

Common knowledge now I feel - I don't trust anything reported by the media. Everything - but everything, should be checked and double checked through a reliable source. Then and only then start to believe what you read.
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I remain unconvinced about this latest revelation.  Someone or something is pulling Wolter's strings.  This is yet another elaborate deception orchestrated by a source close to ....
I wouldn't go that far into conspiracy theory territory. My guess is that they found out about the phone call and CB's past and thought they were really onto solving Europe's most notorious unsolved missing person case, but leaned out of the window way too far and ended up embarrassing themselves completely. Plus, they probably searched for something to keep CB in prison for as long as they can, as he had chances of getting out a short time later and the final verdict for the ten-year prison penalty in the case of the rape in Portugal was pending.
It's not a "conspiracy theory".

It's more than clear, after studying this case in depth, that all of these "developments" are fabrications made up by someone or some group. Your guess doesn't explain why the German prosecutor has behaved the way he did, and why this was overblown in the media, unlike many other fake leads.

I agree Paulo, it's not a conspiracy theory.

It's a simple case of looking at everything presented by the media and making an educated evaluation. In short - none of it adds up to a credible scenario worthy of serious consideration.
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Post by Guest 14.09.20 2:16

Not only that, but it has been proven through documented evidence that many media reports about this case are just outright fabrications, and not simple mistakes!

One such example is the false report that the McCanns and their three children visited Sagres on Monday 30th April 2007. We know this is false, because the creche records show that the twins were in the toddlers' area that day.

Anyway, I'm digressing.

The point is that the Christian Brueckner storyline is just another piece of disinformation, put out by someone or some group possibly trying to manage the public's perception. It's nothing new in this case, and won't probably be the last.
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Post by Guest 14.09.20 3:17

Hence I repeatedly revert to the early days, May to
September 2007.

I have a mind to initiate a new thread exposing media misinformation and fabulous examples of press sensationalism.

Something I think I would really enjoy.  The sky is the limit!
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Post by Guest 14.09.20 22:13

Oh this just gets better and better - more transparent by the day.  I knew this latest revelation of Germanman was an elaborate plot, targeting the Portuguese police and in particular - Gonçalo Amaral.

Enjoy!

MADDIE CLUE Madeleine McCann cops hunt new witness who ‘lived next to reservoir where mystery note claimed her body was dumped’


   Patrick KnoxDan Keane

   14 Sep 2020, 12:28Updated: 14 Sep 2020, 12:35

MADELEINE McCann cops are reportedly hunting a new witness who allegedly lived next to a reservoir where a mystery note was left claiming her body had been dumped.

The man is believed to be an ex-pal of rapist Christian B, who is suspected of abducting and murdering the three-year-old in 2007.

Officers are understood to be treating him as a witness and not a suspect, reports the Daily Mirror.

It is thought he was holed up in a camper van near the remote 'Reservoir of Wilderness' which lies nine miles from Praia da Luz.

A note - found outside the flat where Madeleine disappeared - suggested that the three-year-old’s body may have been dumped in the reservoir.

The note, sent to a Dutch newspaper, is said to identify a reservoir as Madeleine’s "final resting place” and allegedly described the murky waters as a “perfect” place to hide a body.

The remote Barragem da Bravura lake is just 15 miles from Praia da Luz, where Maddie was last seen.
CHILLING 'NOTE'

A handyman who found the note, who did not wish to be named, said in 2014: “It clearly said Madeleine’s name at the top. It was written in Portuguese.

“Beneath it was a location for what it claimed was her final resting place.”

The handyman also claimed that, after handing cops the note, nothing was subsequently done.

Police searched the surrounding woodland of  two days after Madeleine vanished in 2007, but it is thought that divers did not search the water itself.

It comes as at least one old associate of Christian B, 43, has been quizzed about Madeleine’s disappearance by German police in Portugal.

A source told the Mirror: "They didn’t seem to know his name.

"They said he may have stayed up at Barragem da Bravura.

"My friends and I don’t recall Christian hanging out there but he was pretty private."

Brit Kit Thackeray has lived next to the reservoir for more than 30 years.

He told the Mirror: "There were Germans living in campers all around here in the early 2000s. He could be anywhere now."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12660655/madeleine-mccann-cops-german-drifter-friends-prime-suspect-christian-b/


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Madeleine Divers Quit Reservoir Search

Alex Watts, Sky News Online In Praia Da Luz
Updated:10:54, Friday May 02, 2008  

Divers have called off their search of a remote reservoir in the hunt for missing Madeleine McCann.

The operation, funded by human rights lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia, was launched in the belief that the girl was killed shortly after being abducted and thrown in the Barragem Arade reservoir.

The hilly area is around 35 miles from Praia da Luz, where Madeleine disappeared almost a year ago.

Mr Correira claimed the reservoir tip-off had come from an underworld source, and had promised to hand over any evidence to Metodo 3, the detective agency hired by Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann.

But Martyn Falkous, who led the six-strong team of British and Portuguese divers, confirmed the search had been stopped.

The 36-year-old, who runs Dive Time, based in Lagos, told Sky News Online: "We have not been asked to do any more searches of the reservoir. If Mr Correira asks us to do more, we will search for him.

"We were concentrating on the dam's control tower and a couple of other areas - basically the places where someone could have thrown something into the water."

He said a complete search of the reservoir would be a massive task. The bottom has a layer of mud four metres thick, into which a weighted body would sink and disappear.

He added: "It's very difficult because there's no visibility down there. It's absolutely pitch black so you have to do everything by touch.

"It's 60ft deep in places and has a sheer bank, so it goes straight down."

The team found a child's sock, several ropes, and a bag of animal bones.

It was the second time the lawyer had paid for divers to explore the reservoir. In December - when Portuguese police refused to act on his claims - he paid around £3,000 for a first search.

The McCanns have dismissed Mr Correia as a self-publicist and believed there was no evidence to suggest any link between their daughter and the reservoir.

[Acknowledgement Nigel Moore of mccannfile.com and pamalam at gerrymccannblogs.co.uk for hosting]


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Original Source: Correio_da_Manha: 06_Oct 2010

[Paper addition only] 06 October 2010

The Public Ministry accuses lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia of defamation against Goncalo Amaral, a former PJ coordinator, due to a document in which he recounts supposed torture acts against Leonor Cipriano, who in 2005 was condemned to a 16-year prison sentence over the death of her daughter, Joana, and the concealment of the child's cadaver.

The lawyer - who represents Leonor Cipriano - has sent the aforementioned document to the Association against Exclusion for Development (ACED), and its head, Antonio Dores, also stands accused of the crime of defamation. After filing the complaint against the lawyer, Goncalo Amaral requested for Aragao Correia to be considered unimputable, even suggesting his commitment to a psychiatric hospital.

Within the case of alleged aggressions against Leonor, Goncalo Amaral was condemned to a one-and-a-half-year suspended sentence over false deposition. The former PJ coordinator is represented by Joao Grade, Cipriano's former lawyer

[Acknowledgement pamalam at gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk]


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Might be different named barrages but this is the tabloid press we are talking about.

Then there was the story of Justine McGuiness, the McCanns former spokeswoman, and the map with documents and photographs allegedly found tucked under a sofa in the McCanns accommodation - she was ordered by lawyers to be quiet .... allegedly!

Eat yer heart out Miss Marple, you ain't seen nothing  until you enter the dark labyrinth of lies, deceit and deception surrounding the complete mystery of Madeleine McCann.
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Post by sandancer 14.09.20 23:42

" A reservoir where a mystery note was left claiming her body had been dumped " 

" A note found outside the flat where Madeleine disappeared " 

" The note sent to a Dutch newspaper " 

" The handyman who found the note , who didn't wish to be named " ( how convenient !) 

" The handyman who also claimed that after handing cops the note , nothing was subsequently done " 

That's a lot of " chilling " notes ! 

Funny how no one has heard of these " notes " or " note " , nothing reported about them before or in the Files ! 

You couldn't make it up could you !?!?!     mail splat

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Post by Silentscope 15.09.20 9:01

Possible source matierial for the newly constructed story.

What Links Mystery 'Murder' Notes? 

1:05pm UK, Thursday June 14, 2007 

A Dutch newspaper suspects the author of a letter describing where a missing girl has been buried made a similar tip-off about two other youths.
 
The De Telegraaf

A note sent to De Telegraaf suggested British four-year-old Madeleine McCann was left in the Odiáxere area of Portugal.

The paper had previously received a letter in 2006 detailing a spot under a bridge in Belgium.

The bodies of Stacey Lemmens, seven, and her step-sister, Nathalie Mahy, 10, were later found at the location.

Aside from the subject matter, De Telegraaf has linked the letters because of the use of two words.

"Vermoedelijke vindplaats", which literally translates as 'suspected find place', appears in both notes. 

Portuguese police have received two A4 sheets of paper from Dutch officers who, after careful analysis, considered the letter "authentic and important".

One page contained a general topographical map of the Algarve with a cross over the area of Odiáxere.

The other featured a map of Odiáxere with two question marks and the handwritten words "Possible place of Madeleine".

Moroccan born Abdallah Ait Oud, a convicted 38-year-old paedophile, has been charged with Stacey and Nathalie's abduction.

He denies any involvement.
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Post by Silentscope 15.09.20 21:00

Very interesting last paragraph, but I do not know how to Reply without going Off Topic? It all figures. Mark of the Beast stuff...

https://themaddiecasefiles.com/de-telegraaf-psychic-letter-t384.html#p4781

May be of interest? I look forward to seeing a Thread on the Press misuse of Information Verdi. 

Thank you both. Great Post!
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Post by Guest 15.09.20 22:27

Silentscope wrote:Very interesting last paragraph, but I do not know how to Reply without going Off Topic? It all figures. Mark of the Beast stuff...

https://themaddiecasefiles.com/de-telegraaf-psychic-letter-t384.html#p4781

May be of interest? I look forward to seeing a Thread on the Press misuse of Information Verdi. 

Thank you both. Great Post!

I haven't the vaguest idea what you are talking about Silentscope - nothing new there!

If you wish to comment on matters of a psychic nature, you can do so here..

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15192-unorthodox-theorizing

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Whilst we are in conversation.  As you know, earlier today I moved one of your posts to the Media Mayhem thread (the thread that exposes the media for what they are), as it was wrongly posted on the Mother and Baby thread.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13561-media-mayhem-mccann-media-nonsense-of-the-day

Your post linked to a google search but would appear to have been intended to draw attention to a report by Natasha Donn of the Portugal Resident from 2017.  

I left a moderators note at the bottom of your post, the detail of which again, you already know.  You then deleted your post along with my note at the bottom.

You are free to delete your own posts within the time frame allowed, but to delete a post with an admin or mod comment added, is not acceptable nor appreciated.

I'm sure you realise.  Should a similar situation occur in the future, please contact admin or myself by PM before deletion.

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Madeleine McCann prime suspect's lawyer says 'I'd never let him near my kids'

EXCLUSIVE: Christian Brueckner's lawyer Friedrich Fuelscher said that if he had a daughter he would not let his client look after her, although he said the suspect could be his dogsitter

By Andy Lines

20:59, 15 SEP 2020Updated22:43, 15 SEP 2020

The Maddie McCann prime suspect's own lawyer said he would not trust his client enough to ever use him as a “babysitter.”

Friedrich Fuelscher insisted that, if he had a daughter, he would not let Christian Brueckner look after her.

And for the first time he revealed to Mirror Online that he made a secret visit to Portugal last week to carry out a series of new inquiries.

In a wide-ranging interview Fuelscher invited me into his office to discuss issues surrounding the Maddie case.

Brueckner has been named as the chief suspect in to the disappearance of the three-year-old Brit after police said mobile phone records placed him in Praia da Luz on the evening she went missing.

But despite Brueckner protesting his innocence Fuelscher said: “I'd let him look after my dogs but I wouldn't let him look after my children or my daughter - if I had them.

“He could be my dogsitter, yes, but because of his record I would not let him look after my own daughter.”

Fuelscher has been plunged into the centre of one of the world's biggest unsolved crimes when Maddie vanished in May 2007.

Last week he flew to the Algarve.

He claimed: “I have been to Portugal to investigate for myself.

“I went to check the locality there.

“I clearly went more openly and attempted to make my own conclusions on the sources of information available to me – for example the Portuguese investigation files.”

He claimed he uncovered completely new information which he plans to reveal in coming weeks.

“I cannot tell you what it is - but it is big. It certainly surprised me,” he said.

Since taking on Brueckner as a client – who has been convicted of possessing vile child sex abuse images, rape and drug dealing, Fuelscher said his life had changed.

He said: “I certainly don't sleep as well as I used to.|

“I've had threats, lots of them, some of them death threats.

“Some of them have been online and some of them have been on the phone.

“I have pressed charges on some of them.

“I've also been told my life is in danger for looking into the Madeleine McCann case.”

Brueckner, 43, is currently being kept in solitary confinement in a prison in central Kiel.

He cannot mix with other prisoners because of threats from fellow inmates.

“I am entitled to go and visit him but I only go in when I have something to discuss,” said Fuelscher.

“But I cannot - and will not - discuss what my client has told me.”

Fuelscher was at pains to compliment the professionalism Scotland Yard were showing in handling their inquiries but slammed the German legal authorities in Braunschweig.

He said: “I praise the British investigation team and, from what I have seen so far, I certainly think they have good reasons to still treat this as a 'missing persons' inquiry.

“But from the German prosecutors I still have not received one single file in connection with this case.

“That is extremely unusual.

“I do not know why they have not passed anything on.

“The prosecution is only asking questions in one direction.

“I think a similar case like this will be hard to find.

"It is not comprehensible how a public prosecutor's office can repeatedly approach the media and make statements like: 'We are firmly convinced that Christian B is the right person and the perpetrator and killed this girl', but then at the same time we are told that they don't have the crucial evidence.

“This is for me a contradiction in itself."

Fuelscher claimed some articles in the British and German press had been inaccurate - particularly in connection with Brueckner's conviction of the rape of an American pensioner in Praia da Luz two years before Maddie vanished

“One of the mistakes people have made is saying there is a film of the rape of the pensioner that is not true,” he said.

“And the prosecution are using two very dubious witnesses to help their case.”

Brueckner, currently serving a one year nine month sentence for drug dealing is appeal the rape verdict and it is the subject of a complex European Court of Justice legal ruling which will be released next Thursday

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-prime-suspects-lawyer-22688679

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Post by Guest 16.09.20 0:52

Beware who you rub shoulders with - or jump into bed with .

I wouldn't trust Friedrich Fuelscher with resuscitating a dead goldfish.

This is going to turn very ugly devi1 .

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