Re: The Strange World of Jeffrey Epstein

by **Ladyinred** 16.02.22 21:29

I don't think it's been established that any crime was committed.

by **Jill Havern** 16.02.22 21:32

If Virginia wanted her day in court, why did she settle?

by Guest 16.02.22 21:33

Jill Havern wrote:If Virginia wanted her day in court, why did she settle?

$$$$ MILLIONS $$$$

Why did he pay her $$$ MILLIONS $$$?

There is no good way to look at this for Andrew.

It's an admission of guilt.

by Guest 16.02.22 21:34

Ladyinred wrote:I don't think it's been established that any crime was committed.

Because he paid $$$ MILLIONS $$$ to make sure of that.

by Guest 16.02.22 21:36

$12 MILLION.

Why did he do that if he was innocent?

by **Jill Havern** 16.02.22 21:38

BlueBag wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:If Virginia wanted her day in court, why did she settle?
$$$$ MILLIONS $$$$

Why did he pay her $$$ MILLIONS $$$?

There is no good way to look at this for Andrew.

It's an admission of guilt.

It doesn't look good for Virginia either.

by **Jill Havern** 16.02.22 21:38

BlueBag wrote:$12 MILLION.

Why did he do that if he was innocent?

Because the court case would have overshadowed the Platinum Jubilee.

by **Jill Havern** 16.02.22 21:39

BlueBag wrote:$12 MILLION.

Why did he do that if he was innocent?

That sum is peddled by the media.

by Guest 16.02.22 21:44

Jill Havern wrote:
BlueBag wrote:$12 MILLION.

Why did he do that if he was innocent?
That sum is peddled by the media.

He paid up.

Doesn't matter what it is (it's a lot).

It's an admission of guilt.

I don't get why you are defending a pal of Epstein and that crowd.

They are scum.

by Guest 16.02.22 21:46

Jill Havern wrote:
BlueBag wrote:$12 MILLION.

Why did he do that if he was innocent?
Because the court case would have overshadowed the Platinum Jubilee.

Nah.

Poor excuse.

by Guest 16.02.22 21:48

Jill Havern wrote:
BlueBag wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:If Virginia wanted her day in court, why did she settle?
$$$$ MILLIONS $$$$

Why did he pay her $$$ MILLIONS $$$?

There is no good way to look at this for Andrew.

It's an admission of guilt.
It doesn't look good for Virginia either.

Correct.

But she is a small fish bought off by $ MILLIONS.

It's an admission of guilt by Epstein's pal Andrew.

by **Ladyinred** 16.02.22 21:51

Guilty of what?

by Guest 16.02.22 21:52

Ladyinred wrote:Guilty of what?

You know.

Guilty of what he paid $$$ MILLIONS $$$ to suppress.

by **Jill Havern** 16.02.22 21:53

Which is?

by Guest 16.02.22 21:54

Jill Havern wrote:Which is?

You know as well.

by **Ladyinred** 16.02.22 21:57

BlueBag wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:I don't think it's been established that any crime was committed.
Because he paid $$$ MILLIONS $$$ to make sure of that.

But you're arguing for an independent police prosecution - he didn't pay off the police.

by **Ladyinred** 16.02.22 22:00

BlueBag wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Guilty of what?
You know.

Guilty of what he paid $$$ MILLIONS $$$ to suppress.

Do I?

IMO he had sex with a 17 year old, when he was in his early 40s, which I believe is not illegal in the US. Distasteful, inappropriate and wrong, yes.

by **Jill Havern** 16.02.22 23:05

Close friend of Prince Andrew, Lady Victoria Hervey, on why she believes infamous Virginia Giuffre image is fake

by **PeterMac** 17.02.22 6:19

Oh the grand old Duke Of York
He had 12 Million quid
He gave it to a girl he'd never met
For something he never did

(Trad.17th C.)

by Guest 17.02.22 8:27

Ladyinred wrote:
BlueBag wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Guilty of what?
You know.

Guilty of what he paid $$$ MILLIONS $$$ to suppress.
Do I?

IMO he had sex with a 17 year old, when he was in his early 40s, which I believe is not illegal in the US. Distasteful, inappropriate and wrong, yes.

Rape is illegal.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] will not be able to repeat his claim that he did not rape [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] as part of the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] sex ring, under the terms of a confidential settlement reached over the weekend, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

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But we'll never know because he coughed up $12 million to make it go away.

by Guest 17.02.22 8:31

Ladyinred wrote:
BlueBag wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:I don't think it's been established that any crime was committed.
Because he paid $$$ MILLIONS $$$ to make sure of that.
But you're arguing for an independent police prosecution - he didn't pay off the police.

Absolutely should be one.

by **Jill Havern** 17.02.22 9:30

BlueBag wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:If Virginia wanted her day in court, why did she settle?
$$$$ MILLIONS $$$$

Money more important than justice.

Strange.

by Guest 17.02.22 9:46

Jill Havern wrote:
BlueBag wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:If Virginia wanted her day in court, why did she settle?
$$$$ MILLIONS $$$$

Money more important than justice.

Strange.

For some people yes.

For some (most) people $12 million is a lot of money.

Didn't Andrew want justice?

by **Jill Havern** 17.02.22 10:11

Surely she'd still have got a lot of money by forcing him to attend court.

by Guest 17.02.22 10:14

Jill Havern wrote:Surely she'd still have got a lot of money by forcing him to attend court.

Maybe not.

Then she was running the risk of a rigged court.

Why aren't you wondering why Andrew paid up?

I think he has the most questions to answer.

by **Jill Havern** 17.02.22 10:33

BlueBag wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:Surely she'd still have got a lot of money by forcing him to attend court.
Maybe not.

Then she was running the risk of a rigged court.

Why aren't you wondering why Andrew paid up?

I think he has the most questions to answer.

It's reported that Prince Charles told him to pay up to bring this to an end before the Platinum Jubilee celebrations. Not great to have Andrew as headline news (which it would have been) when the Queen's 70 year reign is coming to an end.

Who knows what the truth is about any of it.

I don't know. You don't know. But you're making assumptions because you don't like the Royal Family and want the Monarchy abolished.

by Vera Krista 17.02.22 10:46

Jill Havern wrote:

Close friend of Prince Andrew, Lady Victoria Hervey, on why she believes infamous Virginia Giuffre image is fake

Tbh there's something that doesn't sit right with that photo, I don't claim Andrew is innocent but reading Maria's tweets she says she was raped by 2 men and only had liaisons with 2 men, Virgina says she was raped by Andrew.

There are stuff that doesn't sit right with both women, Maria threatened everyone with her lawyers, there was another girl who wrote a book, allegedly she's exposing everything in that book, Maria & Virginia send their fans on her, watched people sending abusive tweets to that girl. Maria is gone off twitter now, saying she found her sweetheart on twitter (some people claim her sweetheart is some sort of a drug lord)

But why use Trump, Lex Wexner & Prince Andrew only. What about the other men?

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] They say Charlie & William allegedly asked him to pay up and shut her up

by **Jill Havern** 17.02.22 11:15

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NEW The Duke of York's (seen left, with the Queen; and right, with Virginia Giuffre) thoughts are now turning to the future and even a possible public role, it is claimed - despite this being a vanishingly unlikely prospect. The 61-year-old has previously shown himself impervious to public outrage over his behaviour, even reportedly considering his disastrous Newsnight interview as a success. 'He is feeling relatively chipper, under the circumstances,' a friend said, summing up his current state of mind. 'You can understand the level of personal relief involved.' Ms Giuffre is also seen bottom.

Look at this ^^^ bollocks from our anti-monarchy media - you just know that they are going to milk this to spoil the Queen's Platinum Jubilee. They want him to disappear, which he will if they let him, but THEY won't allow this story to disappear, just as they won't allow Princess Diana to RIP. They know the RF have no right of reply.

The Royal Family or Andrew's laywers have issued NO details about the court case, yet 'a friend' (a DM reporter no doubt) has said Andrew is 'chipper' and 'relieved' after his mother paid £2million (is that even a fact?) of his £12million payout (is that even a fact?).

His thoughts are turning to a future public role (yeah right, is that even a fact?) How do they even know what his thoughts are?

I hate the mainstream media - they can literally make a story/scandal out of anything to bring someone/or an institution down. But what is the truth about any of it? They won't report the truth! Everything is just one-sided bias.

I notice all comments on these stories are now moderated and my question 'If Virginia wanted her day in court why did she settle?' has not been published on any of the stories.

I couldn't care less about Andrew, but I do care about the Queen and the service she's given to this country for the past 70 years! She doesn't deserve this - not from Andrew, not from Charles, not from Hazbeen. What she does deserve is to live out her days in PEACE and for her legacy not to be ruined by scumbags in her own family!

by Guest 17.02.22 13:01

Sweet Virginia was not 'raped'.

She wasn't groomed nor abducted nor trafficked - unless you think acceptance of large sums of money and lavish presents is being groomed. I call it seduced by gilding.

She was 17 years of age, not 7. I knew exactly what I was about at the age of 17 (much earlier if truth be known).

Experience working at a spa, training as a masseuse? Don't try and tell me she was there against her will.

Poor bloke, this is like a medieval mobbing.

by Guest 17.02.22 15:08

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