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Post by Tony Bennett 07.07.19 9:58

Some time ago, I exposed the links between Ernie Allen of ICMEC & NCMEC, with whom Gerry McCann spent 5 days in Washington in July 2007, McCanns' backer Sir Richard Branson, the Podesta brothers and Jeffrey Epstein - in this article:
     
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Last night Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on serious charges of running an international trafficking ring procuring minors for sex. The news is all over the media. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] has just posted one of the stories on our 'Prince Andrew' thread and I would advise that CMOMM members and guests also look at that thread for further information. There is a strong connection between Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew. 

It is a sad fact that, on this planet, hugely wealthy and influential businessmen and politicians can use their wealth, power and influence to buy sex with children. Sadly also they often have the wealth, power and influence to cover-up their wicked deeds.

The Podestas became notorious through Pizzagate, where there was also evidence of children being trafficked to the U.S., and Washington D.C. in particular, for sex.

POSTSCRIPT: I googled this just now: "Jeffrey - Epstein - Ernie - Allen - Images".

The second image referenced my full article about the Podestas and the McCanns on CMOMM! 

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Wikipedia has this entry today:
 
In 2008, Epstein was convicted of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution, for which he served 13 months in "custody with work release".[2] On July 6, 2019, Epstein was arrested for sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York.[3][4]
 


These are some of the worldwide headlines this morning:
 
Jeffrey Epstein Arrested for Sex Trafficking of Minors - The Daily Beast
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45 mins ago - Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on Saturday and will appear in New York court on Monday to be charged with sex trafficking, according to multiple ...
 
Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested and accused of sex trafficking ...
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6 hours ago - Florida-based billionaire Jeffrey Epstein has been indicted on new charges related to alleged sex crimes involving minors, law enforcement sources told CNN on Saturday. Epstein was arrested Saturday and is expected to appear in federal court in New York on Monday.
 
Jeffrey Epstein arrested in New York on charges related to sex ...
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2 hours ago - Investment manager Jeffrey Epstein was arrested in New York Saturday on federal charges related to sex trafficking, CBS News has confirmed.
 
Reports: Jeffrey Epstein Arrested On Sex Trafficking Charges : NPR
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2 hours ago - The multimillionaire financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was arrested Saturday in the New York area and charged with sex ...
 
Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein Arrested on Sex-Trafficking Charges - WSJ
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3 hours ago - Billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on sex-trafficking charges, a dramatic turn in a yearslong legal saga related to allegations of ...
 
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5 hours ago - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein has been charged with molesting dozens of underage girls in New York and Florida, Fox News has learned.
 
Jeffrey Epstein arrested in NY on sex charges, reports say - USA Today
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6 hours ago - NEW YORK – Wealthy financier and registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was arrested Saturday in New York on sex-trafficking charges ...
 
Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Long Accused of Molesting Minors, Is ...
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Billionaire sex offender Jeffrey Epstein arrested for alleged sex trafficking
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Post by sharonl 07.07.19 11:00

Richard Branson is also a Patron of either Missing People or PACT. His mother, Eve Branson was co-founder of PACT. Tony & Cherie Blair along with Lady Catherine Meyers are also linked to these charities. Then we have Branson donating to the McCanns, not to search for Madeleine, but to clear their names.

No wonder Gerry said, "Kate needs a title, she hasn't got one yet" Hence the Ambassador of Missing People.

So is this why Gerry visited the Whitehouse?


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Post by Doug D 07.07.19 12:16

From the Daily Mail article posted up by PeterMac in the ‘Prince Andrew’ thread:
 
‘Records in the defamation case contained descriptions of sexual abuse by Epstein along with new allegations of sexual abuse by 'numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister and other world leaders.'
 
In the aanirfan blog of Epstein’s ‘little black book’, only two former Prime Ministers jump out, Ehud Barak & Tony Blair.
 
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Barak was in charge of Israel for only two years (‘99 – 2001) and although he seems to now have a similar playboy lifestyle to Blair, earning megabucks on the after dinner circuit, does he class as ‘well-known’?
 
Interesting times, in which only the lawyers will ultimately win.
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Post by Liz Eagles 07.07.19 12:38

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Richard Branson is also a Patron of either Missing People or PACT.  His mother, Eve Branson was co-founder of PACT.  Tony & Cherie Blair along with Lady Catherine Meyers are also linked to these charities.  Then we have Branson donating to the McCanns, not to search for Madeleine, but to clear their names.

No wonder Gerry said, "Kate needs a title, she hasn't got one yet"  Hence the Ambassador of Missing People.

So is this why Gerry visited the Whitehouse?


Richard Branson's company called 'Virgin' has been making quite a splash promoting an LGBT flight.
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Post by Liz Eagles 07.07.19 12:48

Please forgive me for this diversion. It is not vicarious in any way whatsoever.

I took a flight from Bangkok to Australia on Qantas. At the time (I had no idea) there was a Gay Pride carnival going in Aus.

I stood in the queue at passport control and there were guys dressed as women in full drag.

I wondered how they were recognized at passport control from their photographs.

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Post by sharonl 07.07.19 13:24

Notice once again that it is SIR Richard Branson

I wonder if that yacht belonged to any Sir that we know.

What is Phillip Greens real concern with this case, we haven't got to the bottom of that yet.
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Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein Arrested for Pedophilia: Bill Clinton, Prince Charles, other Elites Connected


By Lee Floyd| March 15th, 2005 Child Trafficking / Pedophilia, Political Corruption

Investigative journalist and author, Conchita Sarnoff, discusses the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile ring cover up with film director and producer, Sean Stone.



A woman contacted Palm Beach police and alleged her 14-year-old daughter had been taken to billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s mansion by an older girl and paid $300 after stripping and massaging him. She was one of dozens of underage girls recruited as a pedophile sex slave ring by Epstein, but an ‘army of legal superstars’ persuaded prosecutors to sign a controversial and unprecedented agreement that reduced what an attorney for some of Epstein’s victims said could have put Epstein away for 33 life sentences and he only got 18 months in prison and 18 months of house arrest. Epstein, the former Bear Stearns executive had many high-profile and political connections with frequent visits from close-friend Bill Clinton and Prince Charles, both named in the lawsuit to have had sex with minors. The plea deal was sealed for months and Epstein’s lawyers fought to keep it from being made public which may have given both Clinton and Prince Andrew protection from prosecution, it is claimed.

Highly-paid lawyers for Jeffrey Epstein – some of whom had links to the White House – secured an extraordinary deal which guaranteed ‘potential co-conspirators’ would not face criminal charges relating to his activities.

They had spent months delving into the private lives of state prosecutors to establish if they had any ‘personal peccadilloes’, in a desperate bid to defend Epstein against claims of abusing scores of under-age girls at his Florida mansion.

The aggressive tactics culminated in an extraordinary ‘non-prosecution agreement’ being struck between Epstein and prosecutors in September 2007. This halted any prospect of Andrew being asked to answer questions on oath about his paedophile friend’s antics. The agreement states: ‘The United States agrees that it will not institute any criminal charges against any potential co-conspirators of Epstein, including but not limited to Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff or Nadia Marcinkova.’

Many serious charges against Epstein and any ‘co-conspirators’ were wiped out, in return for the billionaire pleading guilty to the relatively minor charge of soliciting an under-age girl for prostitution. After the accord had been signed, his lawyers fought to ensure it remained secret.

They bombarded the US Attorney’s office in Florida with hundreds of pages of legal argument intended to prove that Epstein’s victims did not have any legal right to know a plea agreement had been struck.

According to official documents, Epstein’s attorney Jay Lefkowitz – a former deputy director of domestic policy at the White House under George W Bush – sent a one-line email to the US Attorney’s Office on September 24, 2007: ‘Please do whatever you can to keep this from becoming public’.

On November 29, 2007, Lefkowitz called for more secrecy in a letter to the Florida state attorney: ‘We don’t understand the basis for your Office’s belief that it is appropriate for any letter to be sent to these individuals at this stage – before Mr Epstein has either entered a plea or been sentenced.’

Lefkowitz disputed the suggestion that the victims had the right to be heard at any plea or sentencing, adding: ‘Encouraging these individuals to participate in the state sentencing will have the effect of creating a media frenzy that will surely impact the sentence Mr Epstein received – precisely what your Office promised to avoid.’

Critics claim the deal was a scandalous cover-up – supported by the political establishment – to protect Epstein and his influential circle of friends. R Alexander Acosta, the US Attorney for Southern Florida, who signed off on the non-prosecution agreement, has told of the aggressive tactics employed.

In an open letter on the case four years ago, Mr Acosta said Epstein had ‘hired an army legal superstars’, citing Lefkowitz and Kenneth Starr – lead prosecutor against President Clinton in the Monica Lewinsky scandal. He added: ‘The defence strategy was not limited to legal issues. Defense counsel investigated individual prosecutors and their families, looking for personal peccadilloes that might provide a basis for disqualification. Defense counsel tried to disqualify at least two prosecutors.’

Mr Acosta said that ‘some may feel that the prosecution should have been tougher, adding: ‘Evidence that has come to light since 2007 may encourage that view. Many victims have since spoken out, filing detailed statements in civil cases seeking damages. Physical evidence has since been discovered. Had these additional statements and evidence been known, the outcome may have been different.’

Epstein’s treatment during his year in prison, where he is reported to have had an easy ride, ‘undermined the purpose of a jail sentence’ and may ‘encourage the view’ that prosecutors should have been ‘tougher’ with him, Mr Acosta said.

Despite these comments, questions remain over why he and fellow US prosecutors agreed to provide a blanket immunity to men and women who had allegedly been involved in Epstein’s crimes. The disgraced financier has spent huge amounts of time, effort and money making sure there is no evidence to implicate third parties.

The potential co-conspirators who have been named publicly have all kept quiet. Former model Adriana Ross, who is referred to in the non-prosecution agreement, refused to answer any questions, including some about Prince Andrew, when deposed by lawyers representing Epstein’s victims.

Other key friends in his circle were equally reticent when asked on oath about his activities. If the allegations against any famous public figures are true, the agreement means the US government has provided them with an extraordinary get-out-of-jail free card.

Experts in criminal law in America still question how Epstein’s legal team pulled off the deal that saw him avoid a jail sentence of ten to 20 years. Possibly the most critical question is whether the FBI was aware of any allegations involving Prince Andrew when the non-prosecution agreement was signed.

Buckingham Palace refuses to comment on whether the prince has ever been interviewed by the FBI – even as a witness – over Epstein’s liaisons with young girls.

Epstein was released in July 2009. In recent days, there have been claims that the prince lobbied on behalf of his disgraced friend for a reduced jail term.

This has been denied by Buckingham Palace. A royal official said: ‘The duke would never interfere in an active legal case and did not do so in this case.’

But more than a year after his release from jail, Epstein was pictured walking in New York’s Central Park with Andrew – a show of loyalty from the prince which has repercussions to this day.

Why did a convicted billionaire pedophile named Jeffrey Epstein that pimped out underage girls to powerful men have 21 contact phone numbers for Bill Clinton?

And why did Clinton fly on “multiple occasions” to the private Caribbean island where Epstein regularly held wild sexual orgies? Let me give you a hint: it was not to discuss politics over milk and cookies. Every once in a while, we get a small peek into the twisted sexual world of the global elite. In this case, a Florida lawsuit that alleges that Britain’s Prince Andrew had sex with a 17-year-old “sex slave” provided by Epstein is making headlines all over the planet. But of potentially even greater importance is what this lawsuit is revealing about Bill Clinton. If it can be proven that Bill Clinton had sex with underage girls provided by Jeffrey Epstein, that could potentially destroy any chance that Hillary Clinton has of winning the presidency in 2016.

The 17-year-old girl that Prince Andrew is alleged to have had sex with is named Virginia Roberts. She is claiming that she once received $15,000 for having sex with him…

A teenage “sex slave” says she was paid $15,000 for bedding Britain’s Prince Andrew by the American billionaire who served as the royal’s procurer.

Virginia Roberts was 17 when Wall Street honcho and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein allegedly pimped her out to the prince.

“A lot of powerful men were part of Jeffrey’s scene, but I specifically remember Andrew,” Roberts told Britain’s Daily Mail.

And it is a fact that Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted sex offender. He was convicted by a court of law for paying a 14-year-old girl 300 dollars to massage him and have sex with him…

Epstein’s sexual exploits have been documented since 2005, when a woman in Palm Beach contacted police saying that her 14-year-old daughter had been paid $300 to massage him and then have sex.

The claim prompted a nearly year-long investigation that led to the eventual charge of soliciting prostitution which came as part of a plea deal. He spent 13 months of a 18-month sentence in jail and remains a registered sex offender.

Since that time, approximately 40 other women have accused Epstein of sexual misconduct.

So needless to say, this is one very sick individual.

And right now the mainstream media in the U.S. is largely ignoring the fact that Bill Clinton flew down to Epstein’s private Caribbean island on “multiple occasions” between 2002 and 2005. The following is from a British news source…

Over the years, the casually-dressed, globe-trotting financier, who was said to log more than 600 flying hours a year, has been linked with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late media titan Robert Maxwell.

Epstein reportedly flew Tucker and Spacey to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour. Clinton, meanwhile, flew on multiple occasions in the same plane to Epstein’s private Caribbean island, Little St James, between 2002 and 2005 as he developed his philanthropic post-presidential career. It would later be alleged in court that Epstein organised orgies on that same private island in the US Virgin Islands.

A lot of Democrats are going to end up reading this article, and a lot of them are going to start making apologies for Clinton at this point.

So let’s get one thing straight. It is not okay for anyone to have sex with underage girls. Whoever breaks the law by doing so deserves to go to prison. That includes Bill Clinton if it can be proven that he did this.

And without a doubt, Clinton and Epstein were very close. In fact, court records show that Epstein had 21 different phone numbers for Clinton…

While Clinton was never deposed, lawyers obtained Epstein’s computerized phone directory, which included “e-mail addresses for Clinton along with 21 phone numbers for him, including those for his assistant (Doug Band),” according to a court filing.

In addition, Epstein had contact information for a whole host of other powerful politicians and celebrities…

From his 97-page ‘black book’ of phone numbers and email addresses, it is clear Epstein had an impressive array of contacts.

When its contents were disclosed three years ago, the book was shown to include contact details for former US President Bill Clinton, ex-secretary of state Henry Kissinger, and Barbara Walters, then one of America’s most influential broadcasters.

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson’s details are there, along with entrepreneur Donald Trump, members of the Kennedy family and former prime minister Tony Blair.

If this scandal is not covered up, it could eventually bring down a lot of people.

What makes things even worse for Bill Clinton (and others) is that Epstein apparently used hidden cameras to record the sexual trysts that were going on in his guest bedrooms. The following is from an article that appeared in the Mirror…

Prince Andrew’s tycoon pal may have taken compromising photos of him with the underage girl he is alleged to have abused.

Details buried in original court papers filed against pervert Jeffrey Epstein, 61, reveal that he recorded the sordid orgies he threw for VIPs at his luxury homes using cameras hidden in the walls of guest bedrooms.

So if Bill Clinton did commit a crime, somewhere there may actually be video of it.

But wait, there’s even more to this story. The following comes from the Daily Mail…

The lawsuit claims that Clinton was friends with an unnamed woman who ‘kept images of naked underage children on her computer, helped to recruit underage children for Epstein… and photographed underage females in sexually explicit poses‘.

While he cut off ties with Epstein, this woman’s abuses apparently did not end their relationship as she was reportedly one of the 400 guests at Chelsea Clinton’s 2010 wedding.

Though the lawsuit may be bringing up sexual skeleton’s from Clinton’s past, he has added to the drama of late by posing for a photo with two known prostitutes at a fundraiser in Los Angeles last month.

Obviously Bill Clinton has a lot of hard questions that he needs to answer.

But if Bill Clinton cannot be charged with a crime, will the American people even care what else he did?

After all, there is a long history of the American people being willing to overlook his sexual promiscuity.

For example, in a book published last year entitled “The First Family Detail: Secret Service Agents Reveal the Hidden Lives of Presidents“, it was documented that one of Clinton’s latest girlfriends known as “the Energizer” sometimes brought cookies to the Secret Service agents that guard Bill…

Energizer, who is described as charming and friendly, sometimes brought cookies to the agents, according to the book excerpts.

One told Kessler: “It was a warm day, and she was wearing a low-cut tank top, and as she leaned over, her breasts were very exposed. They appeared to be very perky and very new and full … There was no doubt in my mind they were enhanced.”

Kessler also reports that Hillary’s Secret Service detail informs Bill’s Secret Service detail when the former first lady is coming home, so Bill has time to get Energizer off the property and clean up any evidence.

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Post by NickE 07.07.19 15:10

Any known connections between Epstein, Oppenheimers and Freud?

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Post by Tony Bennett 07.07.19 15:22

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Any known connections between Epstein, Oppenheimers and Freud?

Philip Edmonds, who claimed to have a photo of Madeleine on holiday - which no-one has ever seen - married into the Oppenheimer family.

He is the nephew of Lady Margaret Hodge, on whose watch in the London Borough of Islington, hundreds of children in care were abused.

I believe that Jeffrey Epstein, the Oppenheimers and the Freud family are all Jews.

But then so were Moses, Joseph, David, Solomon, John the Baptist and eleven of the 12 Apostles*, among many others


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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by sharonl 07.07.19 17:32

thinking  Prince Charles?

Royalty, I wonder if thats why we had an employee of the Royal Family, Carole Tramner, who just happened to have an Aunt living above McCann apartment, drafted in.

Then we had the King of Morocco dragged in when Metodo 3 tried to divert the investigation into Morocco where Vanessa Branson lives.

They're all in this together and we're beginning to exactly what it is that they're in.
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Post by Doug D 07.07.19 18:01

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Is this a misprint? The first sentence says 'Clinton & Charles', then in the next line it says 'Clinton & Andrew'.

They've had since 2005 to correct it though.
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Post by Jill Havern 07.07.19 18:18

That's what I thought Doug - Charles was busy marrying Camilla in 2005, but 'Randy Andy' or 'Airmiles Andy' was young, free and single.

And wasn't there a Royal yacht in Praia da Luz, or was that a forum myth?

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Post by Mainline 07.07.19 20:13

Mathew was in Epstein's 'Black Book'
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Post by Doug D 07.07.19 20:14

Forum myth I think. I'm sure the locals would have made more of it if it were true.

Looking at the article again, the dates don't make sense. The article is dated 2005, but then brings in 2007, 2009 etc.
The book was published 2015.
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Post by Jill Havern 07.07.19 20:20

The article also refers to Hilary Clinton not winning the presidency in 2016 and Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2010 - how did he know in 2005 that Hilary would be running for president in 2016 and that Chelsea would get married in 2010, especially as he was talking in the past tense?

"he cut off ties with Epstein, this woman’s abuses apparently did not end their relationship as she was reportedly one of the 400 guests at Chelsea Clinton’s 2010 wedding"

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Post by Verdi 07.07.19 21:18

And wasn't there a Royal yacht in Praia da Luz, or was that a forum myth?

I recall looking into to this many moons ago.  Needless to say, like so many other issues that run out of control like a fishwife's tongue, it was a load of cobblers.

If I can find it when I've got a spare moment I'll post it up.  Not exactly a priority.

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Post by Verdi 07.07.19 21:34

What exactly is the vibe here.

Are folk trying to establish a connection between the colourful life of Epstein, his many connections in the world of the rich and famous - and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?

I know it's quiet on the western front but I think this is getting a bit ridiculous.  

The Daily Beast, which I liken to an incognito version of The Daily Tablet, is no better than any other tabloid i.e. what it don't know it invents.

See how this evolves over time.

As regards the specified age of alleged victims, it's a very difficult subject to broach.  Yes, in eyes of the law, the age of 14 is considered underage, which for the record I agree with.

I worked with a young woman who met her future husband at the age of fourteen - they married when she was eighteen.  He was six years her senior and was a copper in London.  I can't think for a second he was/is a paedophile, there was certainly no such suggestion by anyone at the time.

In circles such as the entertainment industry, girls seduced by the glamour of high profile celebrities are referred to as groupies.  They go where the money is - no holes barred.

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I'm very vaguely remembering more detail than contained ^^^.

Meanwhile, an Express report finalizes with this little gem..

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Post by Hobs 08.07.19 3:29

The other problem is the age of consent.
This varies from country to country and in the USA state to state.
 The youngest age of consent is 11 in Nigeria, the oldest is 21 in Bahrain.
In certain countries, mainly muslim no age of consent is given, only that they must be married.
Since we know in such countries, child marriage is permitted, the age of consent for that child victim is whatever age she was married off perhaps as young as 6 or seven or thereabouts.

Then the added problem is the age of consent in the USA which varies from state to state.
The range is between 16 and 18
 The states where it is 18 are :
Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin.

In some states, a "close in age exemption" exists to decriminalize consensual sex between two individuals who are both under the age of consent.

If she was 17 then she was over the age of consent  in the majority of states and would only be considered underage in the above named states.
This problem relates to the allegation that Prince Andrew had "sexual relations with  the then 17 yr old Virginia Roberts aka Jane Doe 3 or Jane Doe 4

The court filing alleged that Epstein forced Roberts “to have sexual relations” on three separate occasions with “a member of the British Royal Family, Prince Andrew (a/k/a Duke of York)”. The encounters are alleged to have happened in New York, at Maxwell’s London home and in the US Virgin Islands as part of an “orgy with numerous other under-aged girls”.

Referred to as a “minor” in the document, Roberts is understood to have been aged 17 at the time she alleges the encounters took place. Epstein allegedly instructed Roberts “to give the prince whatever he required” and report back on the details of “the sexual abuse”.

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In the UK the age of consent is 16
The age of consent in NY is 17
The age of consent in the US Virgin Islands is 18

Given the claims made, the victim could only make the claim of being underage in relation to the US Virgin islands as everywhere else she was of age to consent.

If the victims were under 16 then  child abuse charges would apply, if the victim was 17 then locations where it happened would have to come into play.
Was she a minor when she moved  from a state where the age of consent was 16 or 17 to one where the age of consent was 18?
The defense lawyers could have a field day with that one as a defense.


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Post by Tony Bennett 08.07.19 8:27

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:What exactly is the vibe here.

Are folk trying to establish a connection between the colourful life of Epstein, his many connections in the world of the rich and famous - and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?

I know it's quiet on the western front but I think this is getting a bit ridiculous.  
We already have a connection between Jeffrey Epstein and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, namely Gerry McCann's 5-day stay in Washington, hosted by the controversial figure of Ernie Allen, Head of NCMEC and ICMEC, amidst suggestions that these two organisations could be, in part, fronts for organised child sex trafficking. We know that Ernie Allen and Jeffrey Epstein swim in the same pool [a metaphor] as people like Sir Richard Branson, the Podesta brothers, Bill Clinton and senior member of the Democratic Party in the U.S., I documented this in my earlier article on CMOMM. Incidentally [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I depart form your characterisation of Epstein's life as 'colourful'. I would choose the word 'wicked'.   
If we are going to describe Epstein's life as 'colourful', we might as well say the same about e.g. Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall and Sir Clement Freud.

Below are two reports from Fox News in the U.S. which focus on Bill Clinton having travelled AT LEAST 26 times on Epstein's notorious 'Lolita' jet. What went on in that plane was wicked (see below).

But before that, a reminder of a few things. We have

1 The 'Lolita' photo of Madeleine, i.e. the Make-Up Photo, possibly taken on  the afternoon of Sunday 29 April 2007 in Praia da Luz

2 The McCanns' association with Sir Clement Freud

3 Ditto with the depraved Ray Wyre, whose name was on the Elm Guest House list of paedophiles

4 Donations and support from people like Sir Richard Branson (VERY CLOSE friend of Jeffrey Epstein, and owner of Necker Island) and Sir Stephen Winyard, owner of Castle Drogo   

5 Jim Gamble's very close association with the McCanns (see my 'Joined at the Hip' article) and CEOP's dummy Madeleine McCann page set up on 30 April 2007 

6 The McCanns' initial obsession and insistence that Madeleine was abducted by paeophiles.

These things, and others, to some of us form a pattern that cannot be ignored in evaluating what may have happened to Madeleine.

Herewith the two articles:

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 Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known
 
By Malia Zimmerman, | Fox News
 
Epstein, and Clinton flew dozens of times on the billionaire's jet, dubbed "The Lolita Express."
 
Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.
 
Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.”
 
The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.
 
“Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile,” said Conchita Sarnoff, of the Washington, D.C. based non-profit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, and author of a book on the Epstein case called "TrafficKing." “Why would a former president associate with a man like that?”


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Epstein owns the entire 72-acre island of Little St James
 
Epstein, who counts among his pals royal figures, heads of state, celebrities and fellow billionaires, spent 13 months in prison and home detention for solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution. He allegedly had a team of traffickers who procured girls as young as 12 to service his friends on “Orgy Island,” an estate on Epstein's 72-acre island, called Little St. James, in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
 
Virginia Roberts, 32, who claims she was pimped out by Epstein at age 15, has previously claimed she saw Clinton at Epstein’s getaway in 2002, but logs do not show Clinton aboard any flights to St. Thomas, the nearest airport capable of accommodating Epstein's plane. They do show Clinton flying aboard Epstein’s plane to such destinations as Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, China, Brunei, London, New York, the Azores, Belgium, Norway, Russia and Africa.
 
Among those regularly traveling with Clinton were Epstein’s associates, New York socialite Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein’s assistant, Sarah Kellen, both of whom were investigated by the FBI and Palm Beach Police for recruiting girls for Epstein and his friends


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Epstein's notorious Boeing 727 Lolita Express
 
The flight logs are required to be filed with the Federal Aviation Administration.


Official flight logs filed with the Federal Aviation Administration show Clinton traveled on some of the trips with as many as 10 U.S. Secret Service agents. However, on a five-leg Asia trip between May 22 and May 25, 2002, not a single Secret Service agent is listed. The U.S. Secret Service has declined to answer multiple Freedom of Information Act requests filed by FoxNews.com seeking information on these trips. Clinton would have been required to file a form to dismiss the agent detail, a former Secret Service agent told FoxNews.com.
 
In response to a separate FOIA request from FoxNews.com, the U.S. Secret Service said it has no records showing agents were ever on the island with Clinton.
 
A Clinton spokesperson did not return emails requesting comment about the former president’s relationship and travels with Epstein. The Clinton Library said it had no relevant information and does not keep track of Clinton’s travel records.
Martin Weinberg, Epstein’s current attorney, did not respond to multiple inquiries. Epstein said in a court filing said that he and his associates “have been the subject of the most outlandish and offensive attacks, allegations, and plain inventions.”
 
However, hundreds of pages of court records, including reports from police and FBI agents, reviewed by FoxNews.com, show Epstein was under law enforcement scrutiny for more than a year.
 
Police in Palm Beach, Fla., launched a year-long investigation in 2005 into Epstein after parents of a 14-year-old girl said their daughter was sexually abused by him. Police interviewed dozens of witnesses, confiscated his trash, performed surveillance and searched his Palm Beach mansion, ultimately identifying 20 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 who they said were sexually abused by Epstein.
 
In 2006, at the request of Palm Beach Police, the FBI launched a federal probe into allegations that Epstein and his personal assistants had “used facilities of interstate commerce to induce girls between the ages of 14 and 17 to engage in illegal sexual activities.”


According to court documents, police investigators found a “clear indication that Epstein’s staff was frequently working to schedule multiple young girls between the ages of 12 and 16 years old literally every day, often two or three times per day.”
 
One victim, in sworn deposition testimony, said Epstein began sexually assaulting her when she was 13 years old and molested her on more than 50 occasions over the next three years. The girls testified they were lured to Epstein’s home after being promised hundreds of dollars to be his model or masseuse, but when they arrived, he ordered them to take off their clothes and massage his naked body while he masturbated and used sex toys on them.
 
The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida prepared charging documents that accused Epstein of child sex abuse, witness tampering and money laundering, but Epstein took a plea deal before an indictment could be handed up.
 
On Sept. 24, 2007, in a deal shrouded in secrecy that left alleged victims shocked at its leniency, Epstein agreed to a 30-month sentence, including 18 months of jail time and 12 months of house arrest and the agreement to pay dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.
 
In exchange, the U.S. Attorney’s Office promised not to pursue any federal charges against Epstein or his co-conspirators.
 
Florida attorney Brad Edwards, who represented some of Epstein’s alleged victims, is suing the federal government over the secret non-prosecution agreement in hopes of having it overturned. Edwards claimed in court records that the government and Epstein concealed the deal from the victims “to prevent them from voicing any objection, and to avoid the firestorm of controversy that would have arisen if it had become known that the Government was immunizing a politically-connected billionaire and all of his co-conspirators from prosecution of hundreds of federal sex crimes against minor girls.”
 
The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida did not respond to a request for comment about the deal.
 
Other politicians, celebrities and businessmen, including presidential candidate Donald Trump, have been accused of fraternizing with Epstein. Trump lawyer Alan Garten told FoxNews.com in a statement Trump and Epstein are not pals.
 
“There was no relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump,” he said. “They were not friends and they did not socialize together.”


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Jeffrey Epstein's alleged sex trafficking involved locations in NY, Virgin Islands, Florida, NM ranch: attorney


By Frank Miles | Fox News


Court orders document release in Jeffrey Epstein sex-abuse case.
 
Billionaire financier and registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein is due in court Monday following an arrest on new charges that he trafficked young girls across state lines including New York, the Virgin Islands, Florida and a ranch in New Mexico, according to a lawyer for the accusers.
 
Attorney David Boies told Fox News on Sunday that Epstein, a wealthy hedge fund manager, will be charged with sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking, and he expected that more superseding indictments would be added.
Boies said both the public corruption unit and the sex trafficking unit in New York worked the investigation.
 
He said Epstein was picked up at a New York airport and taken into federal custody Saturday after his flight landed from Paris. Epstein was being held at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons website. He's expected to appear Monday in Manhattan federal court.
 
“This is an important first step. Hopefully prosecutors will focus on some of his [Epstein’s] co-conspirators going forward,” Boies told Fox News. Epstein once counted as friends former President Bill Clinton, Britain’s Prince Andrew and President Trump.
 
Court documents obtained by Fox News in 2016 showed that Clinton took at least 26 trips flying aboard Epstein's private jet, known as the "Lolita Express," and apparently ditched his Secret Service detail on some of the excursions. Records showed that Trump apparently flew on the jet at least once.
 
Trump biographer Tim O'Brien this weekend reposted an excerpt from a 2002 profile of Epstein in New York Magazine, in which Trump told a reporter, "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." However, Trump's legal team more recently has denied the two were friends.
 
Trump banned Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago estate "because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club," according to court documents filed by Bradley Edwards, the lawyer who has represented several Epstein accusers. That claim has not been confirmed by Trump or Mar-a-Lago.
 
Epstein’s arrest came amid renewed scrutiny of a once-secret plea deal that ended a federal investigation against him. That deal, which has been challenged in Florida federal court, allowed Epstein, 66, to plead guilty to lesser state charges of soliciting and procuring a person under age 18 for prostitution.
 
Averting a possible life sentence, Epstein instead was sentenced to 13 months in jail. The deal also required he reach financial settlements with dozens of his once-teenage victims and register as a sex offender.
 
Epstein’s deal was overseen by former Miami U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta, who is now Trump’s labor secretary. Acosta has defended the plea deal as appropriate under the circumstances, though the White House said in February that it was “looking into” his handling of the deal.
 
U.S. District Judge Kenneth Marra of Florida ruled earlier this year that Epstein’s victims should have been consulted under federal law about the deal, and since then he's been weighing whether to invalidate the non-prosecution agreement, or NPA, that protected Epstein from federal charges.
 
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Fox News' Gregg Re contributed to this report

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Post by Verity 08.07.19 9:52

It makes you wonder if Richard Branson named his Virgin enterprises after the Island or the sex parties with underage girls.
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Post by NickE 08.07.19 11:34

I hope the Police has found the girls so they are able to identify the perpetrators among the V.I.P's.

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Post by Liz Eagles 08.07.19 11:44

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I hope the Police has found the girls so they are able to identify the perpetrators among the V.I.P's.
I hope the authorities that secured gagging orders with victims are outed but we all know that will never happen.
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Post by Verdi 08.07.19 12:42

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:But before that, a reminder of a few things. We have

1 The 'Lolita' photo of Madeleine, i.e. the Make-Up Photo, possibly taken on  the afternoon of Sunday 29 April 2007 in Praia da Luz

2 The McCanns' association with Sir Clement Freud

3 Ditto with the depraved Ray Wyre, whose name was on the Elm Guest House list of paedophiles

4 Donations and support from people like Sir Richard Branson (VERY CLOSE friend of Jeffrey Epstein, and owner of Necker Island) and Sir Stephen Winyard, owner of Castle Drogo  

5 Jim Gamble's very close association with the McCanns (see my 'Joined at the Hip' article) and CEOP's dummy Madeleine McCann page set up on 30 April 2007

6 The McCanns' initial obsession and insistence that Madeleine was abducted by paeophiles.

These things, and others, to some of us form a pattern that cannot be ignored in evaluating what may have happened to Madeleine.

1.  The provenance of the photograph of Madeleine McCann said to be wearing make-up is unknown.  Location, time, date - unknown.  Possibles don't cut the mustard.

2.  The only known association between the McCanns and Clement Freud is a couple of visits they made to his villa in the summer of 2007.  I strongly suggest this arrangement was by the hand of Clarence Mitchell - I don't believe the McCanns knew Clement Freud before or after the brief association in Luz.

3.  There is no evidence to suggest a relationship between the McCanns and Ray Wyre, any more than there is Mark Williams-Thomas or Colin Sutton - both who speak aloud as regards the case.  Ray Wyre had this to say back in September 2007..

Ray Wyre Blog On Madeleine:  25th September 2007

I have been asked by the press many times to provide a profile, to assess whether or not the McCanns have killed the children. How does one even begin to answer the questions if one does not have access to the police intelligence and investigation . To comment on profiling can be irresponsible and part of the problem.


4.  As I stressed on another thread, as far as is known, Branson did not donate to the Find Madeleine Co. Ltd (affectionately known as 'The Fund').  He pledged a sum of money for the reward on offer by The News of the World.  The reward was never claimed so it can be rationally concluded that Branson didn't part with any cash.

5.  Jim Gamble's association with the McCanns is indeed curious but there is nothing to suggest he has connections with any of the individuals named in this thread, or the Epstein scandal.

6.  Agreed, the McCanns most certainly planted the abduction by paedophile into the minds of the police and public.  To expand on that fact, into the realms of global child trafficking and child sexual abuse, is wrong - even wicked, without some concrete evidence to support it.

So many of these alleged claims of child sex abuse centre around teenagers, not very young children.  As I've said beforehand, teenagers flock to get a piece of the action, they hang around back stage doors in the hope of getting an invite into the inner sanctums.  Here to a certain extent, I speak from experience, all be it only small time.  I hasten to add, it doesn't make it right but it's what happens in the real world.  Sex with a very young child is not the same as sex with a teenager - the two shouldn't be confused or fused into one issue.

Teenagers are sexually active, more so today as children are sexualized from a a very early age.  It's huge business and it seems, embraced by modern parenting.  What does your average teenager or pre-teen do when caught out doing what they didn't oughta?  Yes that's right ....  notme !

That aside, there is a lot more to Epstein than cases of alleged child abuse, he's certainly led a colourful life.  What consenting adults do with their time, be it up in the air or down on the ground, is not my business.

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