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She seems to be star struck, and easily impressed.
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why nobody asks Virginia if Andrew is the only man she was trafficked to? who else has she been trafficked to?
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March 2007.
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^^^^ who is that GM ?
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Don't know but she was still wearing her hair long in 2007.sequested wrote:^^^^ who is that GM ?
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The man in the photo with G Maxwell ^^^ is Carlos Mota, he's an interiors and style consultant.
The photo was taken March 13 2007.
The photo was taken March 13 2007.
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There is a Piece in The Sunday Times today
"Epstein is dead, Maxwell is guilty. Now let’s talk about the men who escaped"
to which one possible response is
Not while there are Libel Lawyers around
"Epstein is dead, Maxwell is guilty. Now let’s talk about the men who escaped"
to which one possible response is
Not while there are Libel Lawyers around
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Federal Judge Dismisses Case Against Jeffrey Epstein’s Jail Guards
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I've just been reading, Prince Andrew is already guilty through the eyes of public opinion.
Not so with me. He might be guilty of befriending Epstein and indulging in the extra marital on offer at chez Epstein, in the form of pimped teenage girls but I'm not so sure about forced sex.
The girls were there whether groomed or not. In this the 21st Century, I venture to suggest 17 year olds know the score better than their elders. They know if lavish goodies are up for grabs, there is a price to pay.
Look at Hefner's bunny girls !
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Not so with me. He might be guilty of befriending Epstein and indulging in the extra marital on offer at chez Epstein, in the form of pimped teenage girls but I'm not so sure about forced sex.
The girls were there whether groomed or not. In this the 21st Century, I venture to suggest 17 year olds know the score better than their elders. They know if lavish goodies are up for grabs, there is a price to pay.
Look at Hefner's bunny girls !
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Prince Andrew says he doesn't remember Virginia Roberts.....realistically, who would remember someone from decades ago even with a photo showing him with his arm around a fully clothed woman? She was nothing special, to be fair.
Wasn't he going out with 'hot women' around that time, like Koo Stark?
Why would he need trafficked girls?
Wasn't he going out with 'hot women' around that time, like Koo Stark?
Why would he need trafficked girls?
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For me, the more damaging images are of him peering round the front door of Epstein’s NY house and their walk in the park.
Nevertheless, I’m not convinced that he’s done anything wrong…….apart from pick the wrong friends (and perhaps we’ll never know how wrong they were ?!)
Nevertheless, I’m not convinced that he’s done anything wrong…….apart from pick the wrong friends (and perhaps we’ll never know how wrong they were ?!)
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Quite so to all three above.
England has set the age of consent at 16.
There is no hint of a suggestion that any of the girls and young women involved anywhere were unwilling participants, indeed the exact opposite might be inferred fro their obvious willingness to be jetted round the place, plied with good ford and wine, and no doubt bought new clothes and taken to lots of "parties".
That doesn't excuse the disputed moral reprehensibility of the men's and the Madame's actions, but those are theological points.
England has set the age of consent at 16.
There is no hint of a suggestion that any of the girls and young women involved anywhere were unwilling participants, indeed the exact opposite might be inferred fro their obvious willingness to be jetted round the place, plied with good ford and wine, and no doubt bought new clothes and taken to lots of "parties".
That doesn't excuse the disputed moral reprehensibility of the men's and the Madame's actions, but those are theological points.
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Right to say, why would Prince Andrew need trafficked girls.
Of course he didn't.
With a Royal title, wealth and a degree of power he can have the pick of the bunch - you don't need good looks or muscles. Look at Prince William, every inch the making of a King but nothing much to look at, he managed to bag a beauty.
Then there are prostitutes available for hire - high class and street class and inbetweeners.
I can't but feel Prince Andrew is the target of malicious intention. Unfortunately in cases such as this, the law tends to side with the female so he will get a very hard time even if only his reputation. He's already lost that!
I wonder if the accuser can truthfully remember the name and identity of everyone she had sex with at that period of her life.
Of course he didn't.
With a Royal title, wealth and a degree of power he can have the pick of the bunch - you don't need good looks or muscles. Look at Prince William, every inch the making of a King but nothing much to look at, he managed to bag a beauty.
Then there are prostitutes available for hire - high class and street class and inbetweeners.
I can't but feel Prince Andrew is the target of malicious intention. Unfortunately in cases such as this, the law tends to side with the female so he will get a very hard time even if only his reputation. He's already lost that!
I wonder if the accuser can truthfully remember the name and identity of everyone she had sex with at that period of her life.
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She has been trafficked.
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She has flown over from the States especially to meet you
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She has flown over from the States especially to meet you
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If Virginia is held hostage as she claims, how could her ex bfs can talk about she has been trafficked. How can I girl who is held as a hostage can make a bf?
I don't think She slept with Andrew.
maybe they use her to get something from the royals.
I don't think She slept with Andrew.
maybe they use her to get something from the royals.
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^^^^^ really ? Callum Hudson-Odoi ? Chelsea player born 2000 ?
Really ??
Really ??
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