Norwegian ex-military detective claims to have solved Madeleine case

Cake Lover wrote:

Nina wrote:

Cake Lover wrote:I wondered at the beginning if they were just relieved to be rid of her.

Oh hec but why? Because she was loud and very active?

Like Jill, I think that is what it looks like. She was described as either hard work, or demanding, by family members  - I can't remember exactly. Nice thing to say about a missing toddler, isn't it?

That girl !!!  

crusader wrote:I agree, they were told not to show emotion by crying or looking upset., so they went completely the other way.
They have done themselves no favours by acting the way they did.
It looks to me anyway, they portray themselves more upset now than what they were then, but it's too late.

Honesty wrote:

crusader wrote:I agree, they were told not to show emotion by crying or looking upset., so they went completely the other way.
They have done themselves no favours by acting the way they did.
It looks to me anyway, they portray themselves more upset now than what they were then, but it's too late.

Even if told to hide their emotions, which seems odd to me, I cannot see how any parents who had had a child go missing would be able to do so. Surely, they would at the very least be struggling to contain their emotions.

Nina wrote:

Jill Havern wrote:That's what it looks like to me.

Those two photos really wind me up. Heck, I couldn't even relax and smile like that when my cat went missing.

Been there Jill but we are just normal people, well I am and sure you are too xx. This pair only showed the many signs of self preservation. To do it the way they did they must have protection as serious police would see through them and their cohorts.  God I am not a police person but I see, like many others, the lies and contradictions. Far more than is naturally
 accepted.

Liz Eagles wrote:Should any serious journalist involved in covering the disappearance of Madeleine McCann need to read this book I'd choose Martin Brunt who literally, yes literally got on his knees for an exclusive with the McCanns at the Lisbon libel farce.

Brunt went on furlough to busk on the streets of Paris after the shameful slaughter by media of Brenda Leyland.

Perhaps he has the heart, soul, stomach and will to be a good journalist after all.

4078 'At the time when you were there, before you had reason to reflect on it, at the time you just said to me that the room was lighter than you expected, did that go through your mind at the time''

Reply 'Yeah, erm, it just seemed, it just seemed odd, because, you know, it's really difficult, I can't explain why it was odd and I didn't do anything about it, and it's something I've thought about over and over again, you know, surely that just seemed odd and so it was worth you looking round and going a bit further, and I can't explain why I didn't do it'.
 
4078 'Why did it seem odd''

Reply 'Because I sort of see them dealing, they seemed to have dealt with Sean and Amelie and Madeleine pretty much the way we deal with Grace, so they were sort of very consistent with bedtime and rooms, I would imagine, would be kept sort of fairly dark, they seemed to have come from the same sort of parenting school that we did, and so, erm, it seemed a little bit more unusual that it should be, the door should be open so much and the light, because they were always, the kids were always sort of really confident and they were the least misbehaved, well not misbehaved, they were the least upset when they dropped them off at Nursery, at cr'he, you know, it was all really good and it was all sort of, they were sort of very good at, erm, you know, if they did something wrong, they said no and sort of explaining it properly and why, you know, why it was naughty to do that sort of thing, it was all sort of very appropriate and almost by the book, and it seemed a bit sort of casual to sort of like leave the door open, but then they had sort of an older daughter, so you know, and older children might get, you know, nightmares, so it seemed as though there might be a reasonable explanation, but although I thought it was odd at the time, I didn't say, you know, do you normally leave your door or anything like that'.
 
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4078 'You just put it down to the fact that, well you were a bit surprised that is how they had left it, but that must be how they are used to doing it''

Reply 'Yeah, and I just don't know why it didn't trigger enough of a thought in my mind to say, you know, but I think it's just because you are going expecting that the worst that was going to happen was that somebody would be upset or out of bed or, you know, or sort of crying'.

Bluebagthepirate wrote:The BS in question:

4078 'At the time when you were there, before you had reason to reflect on it, at the time you just said to me that the room was lighter than you expected, did that go through your mind at the time''

Reply 'Yeah, erm, it just seemed, it just seemed odd, because, you know, it's really difficult, I can't explain why it was odd and I didn't do anything about it, and it's something I've thought about over and over again, you know, surely that just seemed odd and so it was worth you looking round and going a bit further, and I can't explain why I didn't do it'.
 
4078 'Why did it seem odd''

Reply 'Because I sort of see them dealing, they seemed to have dealt with Sean and Amelie and Madeleine pretty much the way we deal with Grace, so they were sort of very consistent with bedtime and rooms, I would imagine, would be kept sort of fairly dark, they seemed to have come from the same sort of parenting school that we did, and so, erm, it seemed a little bit more unusual that it should be, the door should be open so much and the light, because they were always, the kids were always sort of really confident and they were the least misbehaved, well not misbehaved, they were the least upset when they dropped them off at Nursery, at cr'he, you know, it was all really good and it was all sort of, they were sort of very good at, erm, you know, if they did something wrong, they said no and sort of explaining it properly and why, you know, why it was naughty to do that sort of thing, it was all sort of very appropriate and almost by the book, and it seemed a bit sort of casual to sort of like leave the door open, but then they had sort of an older daughter, so you know, and older children might get, you know, nightmares, so it seemed as though there might be a reasonable explanation, but although I thought it was odd at the time, I didn't say, you know, do you normally leave your door or anything like that'.
 
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4078 'You just put it down to the fact that, well you were a bit surprised that is how they had left it, but that must be how they are used to doing it''

Reply 'Yeah, and I just don't know why it didn't trigger enough of a thought in my mind to say, you know, but I think it's just because you are going expecting that the worst that was going to happen was that somebody would be upset or out of bed or, you know, or sort of crying'.

Never been in 5A before.
Never seen the bedroom before.
Doesn't know how much light the shutters let in when down.
Doesn't know Gerry and Kate well enough to say anything about leaving doors ajar for kids.

Yet we get this rambling crap about why he thought it was "odd".

He's trying to sell the open shutter story and justify himself for not doing anything.

Crap.

I hope him and his friends read this forum... they must be interested.

Cake Lover wrote:I hope none of these, erm, sort of, err um, people are still, you know, doctors.

Honesty wrote:I think it would be interesting to know where they all are now and where they are working, etc. Not that we are all going to turn up at their doors with flaming torches but why should they be allowed to slip into anonymity?