Norwegian ex-military detective claims to have solved Madeleine case

Bluebagthepirate wrote:Been reading it for about three hours today.

It's good so far.

Slight niggle though... he needed an editor as it could have been trimmed a bit.

Honesty wrote:

crusader wrote:It might spoil it for those who haven't read it yet if I tell you what or who he saw.

I must admit I'd love to know but not if it will spoil it for others.

crusader wrote:He camped out for 6 nights on Rocha Negra, taking water and a few supplies, each night moving to a different location hoping to see Gerry and Kate.

Jill Havern wrote:Bernt doesn't name 'the golden nuggets'...he refers to them as Mr and Mrs Nugget. They will know who Bernt is referring to, though, as will the McCanns.

Jill Havern wrote:

Bluebagthepirate wrote:Been reading it for about three hours today.

It's good so far.

Slight niggle though... he needed an editor as it could have been trimmed a bit.

Did you start at the beginning or, like me, at page 603 where he starts his field investigation? I couldnt wait to get to the juicy bits.

Yes, I had a few niggles - from years of editing Peter's e-book - I picked up some things too that was a bit of a distraction. But, come on, 850 pages...I think he's done brilliantly to carry out this extraordinary investigation over many years, diligently record his work, then put it all together in such a 'brick' of a book.

Operation Brick Phase 3 soon...

PeterMac wrote:"War and Peace" has a few niggles, and could certainly have done with editing down.  1,200 pages. The audio version takes over 60 HOURS.  It will take a normal person about two months to read
It too is several different stories interwoven in a strange way, but following the same broad track through history.

This is not a novel. It is a first attempt at an account of a long investigation, with evidence presented in great detail so that there shall be no misunderstanding, and no suggestion that the author is simply following his "beliefs" or some pre-set agenda.   It was also NOT written in Brendt's First Language.

My style is to include large volumes of references and quotes in Appendices.    But that only works for short Chapters or dissertations.   In a work of this length no one would bother turning back and forth to check the exact wording of each quote, and the danger with that is that the reader might then be able to dismiss the theme as invention or misunderstanding or 'out of context' interpretation.  Or would simply miss the importance of a single word IN its context

This is especially true of the Rogatories, which are verbatim records of the tape recordings, including all the "ums, errs, like, well yer 'now" we hear in normal speech but to which we pay little attention. Here we have to, since the context becomes the important thing.
They are the written version of a Polygraph, a lie detector, but operating on the verbal channel only.   The original tapes would be even more interesting as they would reveal pauses, and voice inflection.  
The videos, for example of Gerry being interviewed, provide the verbal channel but then also a physiological channel as his nose begins to "prickle", or his ears get hot as the adrenaline level peaks suddenly.  What we see is his touching them as a reflex.  We do not need the print out of a polygraph to tell us what was happening.

In the world of Poker they are called "tells" and many years ago this forum published sheets of photos, which some of us still have.

That is why the Brick has to be so long.   And heavy.   
And why it is important to read it all, carefully, however irritating we may find the repetition.

But Good Luck ! ! 





And measure the angle at which Kate is leaning AWAY from Gerry . . . Spine at 10-15º.  Head at 25º
She KNOWS.   And does not want to  be there.
She wants, as she has told us, to "shout the truth from the rooftops"

Jill Havern wrote:


She does plenty of hand and knee holding, gurning, exaggerating, fake crying, whooshing, clucking, telling of porky pies and inappropriate smiling and laughing at the wrong times.

Oh, and jogging to goodness knows where 

Nina wrote:

Jill Havern wrote:


She does plenty of hand and knee holding, gurning, exaggerating, fake crying, whooshing, clucking, telling of porky pies and inappropriate smiling and laughing at the wrong times.

Oh, and jogging to goodness knows where 

She does a lot of exaggerated sighing too and raising the shoulders. And the whining voice.

Liz Eagles wrote:Getting on a plane to see the Pope was a PR disaster.

Holding candlelit vigils outside an Anglican church in a Leicestershire village was a PR disaster.

Giving interviews on UK television sofas to speak about fearing leaving twins in the car to pay for petrol was a PR disaster.

Promoting Missing People was a PR disaster.

Speaking to national newspapers and including the twins and their school was a PR disaster.

So many disasters, Kate must surely be exhausted and I mean that in a kind way.

Jill Havern wrote:To make a decsion to hide your daughter's corpse, rather than alert the authorities certainly must have been an act of madness.

If Maddie suffered a tragic fall on the Sunday but didn't die until the Wednesday, makes me think the McCanns are more evil that I first thought.

Maddie would have needed more than Calpol for a potential haematoma. In which case, did they manage to obtain something stronger or did they just so happen to have some in their luggage?

Which takes me right back to my original pre-planned theory that I can't shake off.