Re: Norwegian ex-military detective claims to have solved Madeleine case

by Bluebagthepirate 10.07.24 12:02

Paddingtom wrote:Hurrah thankyou Ladyinred!!

So, if I was understanding you correctly Bluebagthepirate, then the fact there are new quote marks regularly, doesnt not mean they are different quotes added together. They are all the same speech.

But please put me staright if Ive got the wrong end of the stick.

Thankyou to all who tried to help resolve the quote problem much appreciated.

We won't know without the context of each separate quote.

Which is what I said.

I suspect Clarence Mitchell may know or whoever issued this story to ALL the British media.

by crusader 10.07.24 12:36

The 2 photofits included in the Metro with quotes from G Amaral posted by Paddingtom are the image of Martin Ney in my opinion.

by Bluebagthepirate 10.07.24 12:42

If you google "I asked my officers to gather all the CCTV footage in Luz" you will only find that quote in the British media articles that came from the same one source.

So where do we find the original. It will be in Portuguese obviously.

by Paddingtom 10.07.24 13:36

oh dear, I thought id got to the bottom of this, now Im back to square one.

Are you saying

‘I believe that the person carrying a child in his arms was captured on film from that very camera,’ he said.
‘I asked my officers to gather all the CCTV footage in Luz but, by the time they got to this hotel, the film from this camera had been wiped over.
‘It was a mistake and I will always regret it. I do feel Madeleine was let down.’

1) That this is 3 random sentences cobbled together to make a misleading paragraph

or 2) That the entire paragraph was made up by sources close to the mccanns and GA never said any of it?

Sorry to be so stupid but I just cant get to grips with what you are purporting.

by Paddingtom 10.07.24 13:44

crusader wrote:The 2 photofits included in the Metro with quotes from G Amaral posted by Paddingtom are the image of Martin Ney in my opinion.

Are you starting a new conspiracy theory Crusader? Are you going to start purporting? cant wait!!!

by crusader 10.07.24 14:36

It's a non starter seeing as Madeleine was not abducted.

by Bluebagthepirate 10.07.24 15:27

Paddingtom wrote:oh dear, I thought id got to the bottom of this, now Im back to square one.

Are you saying

‘I believe that the person carrying a child in his arms was captured on film from that very camera,’ he said.
‘I asked my officers to gather all the CCTV footage in Luz but, by the time they got to this hotel, the film from this camera had been wiped over.
‘It was a mistake and I will always regret it. I do feel Madeleine was let down.’

1) That this is 3 random sentences cobbled together to make a misleading paragraph

or 2) That the entire paragraph was made up by sources close to the mccanns and GA never said any of it?

Sorry to be so stupid but I just cant get to grips with what you are purporting.

I'd like to see the original rather than trust the source who sent this to all the British media.

Wouldn't you?

by Silentscope 10.07.24 15:45

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Mr McCann said “it feels like the right time” to reflect on Madeleine 11 years after she went missing.

Source: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/gerry-mccann-to-open-up-about-madeleine-disappearance-in-rare-interview-a3937311.html

Maybe he will open up a bit more soon?

by Honesty 10.07.24 19:37

Never seen the first photograph of Madeleine before. lt seems that she is wearing make-up and has had her hair crimped. A three year old child!

by Cake Lover 10.07.24 19:47

Disturbing, isn't it?

by AnneCGuedes 10.07.24 20:45

Very odd taste... One thing is to make such a pic, another to publish it. Jon Corner ?

by Shash T 10.07.24 21:57

Can anyone explain why they needed to have "actually seen" an abductor when it was allegedly quite common to see men carrying children at night?

by Paddingtom 11.07.24 6:39

They needed someone to start the ball rolling. "he went that way" then the police would head in that direction, grab the cctv with the adbuctor on it heading to the beach. They would presume he escaped by sea and he would turn up in Sagres.

Because of the Smith sighting and GA potentially being identified, they needed to start the ball rolling in the opposite direction so the police would head in that new direction and dismiss the smith sighting as irrelevant. This new direction was towards theSagres road (past murats house) with the inference being he escaped by road to Sagres where Sagresman could still take over. Once GA eliminated Sagresman, they switched to Murat.

It was a crumb trail for the police to follow.

by Paddingtom 11.07.24 6:51

Bluebagthepirate wrote:
Paddingtom wrote:oh dear, I thought id got to the bottom of this, now Im back to square one.

Are you saying

‘I believe that the person carrying a child in his arms was captured on film from that very camera,’ he said.
‘I asked my officers to gather all the CCTV footage in Luz but, by the time they got to this hotel, the film from this camera had been wiped over.
‘It was a mistake and I will always regret it. I do feel Madeleine was let down.’

1) That this is 3 random sentences cobbled together to make a misleading paragraph

or 2) That the entire paragraph was made up by sources close to the mccanns and GA never said any of it?

Sorry to be so stupid but I just cant get to grips with what you are purporting.
I'd like to see the original rather than trust the source who sent this to all the British media.

Wouldn't you?

Right, Im with you now. Yes of course it would be best if we had the original portugese and its translation but unless there is someone with portugese skills willing to search for us, were kinda stuck.

I totally agree they have hijacked GAs words to make it look like he is promoting CB as an abductor., when he is actually referring to the Smith sighting.

If it is totally made up by sources close to the mccanns, it does seem a starnge thing to do.......GA could say "I never said that"   or any of the officers could.    I dont know who the two chaps in the video are (one rather exciteable gentleman and the other who looks like he would rather be poking his eyes out than listening to this)
but they both would have to be "acting" if it wasnt GAs words.    The exciteable chappie says GA walked him all along the route... If I was GA and I hadnt, I would say so because it adds gravitas to GAs assertion that there is a different agenda at play to the one he is working on.

but yes, I do see where youre coming from all the same.

by Shash T 11.07.24 23:01

Thank you Paddington for your reply. That makes sense to me.

by Justice for Maddie 12.07.24 5:37

Greetings from Germany,

I have followed the case since day one.

There is an interview with Kate in August 2007. The interviewer was J. Corner. They were in the Freud Villa and in the background you can see the hill area. Corner released the famous Lolita photo? This photo is so disturbing. The first thought is child trafficking/pedo ring, right? That's why the McCanns and friends covered the accident up . But how was Christian B. involved in this case? It's all so strange. What do the German Police know?
Any news about the videos from the hill area?

by Paddingtom 12.07.24 11:06

Welcome. The only thing I can comment on, is what anyone will say on this forum. CB had absolutely nothing to do with this case. Zero.

Everyone knows that. Its just that some people have got their own agendas and dont care who is trampled in the process.

by Liz Eagles 12.07.24 14:09

My book has arrived. I am only 25 pages in as I'm resisting the temptation to skip to the juicy bits. Before I could possibly comment I need to read the book in its entirety and in the order in which it is presented.

by GreenTara 12.07.24 15:03

Liz Eagles wrote:My book has arrived. I am only 25 pages in as I'm resisting the temptation to skip to the juicy bits. Before I could possibly comment I need to read the book in its entirety and in the order in which it is presented.

I felt exactly the same! Looking forward to hearing what you think of it

by Honesty 12.07.24 17:03

Justice for Maddie wrote:Greetings from Germany,

I have followed the case since day one.

There is an interview with Kate in August 2007. The interviewer was J. Corner. They were in the Freud Villa and in the background you can see the hill area. Corner released the famous Lolita photo? This photo is so disturbing. The first thought is child trafficking/pedo ring, right? That's why the McCanns and friends covered the accident up . But how was Christian B. involved in this case? It's all so strange. What do the German Police know?
Any news about the videos from the hill area?

I'd never seen this interview before, so never seen it analysed - unlike so many of the other interviews. Several red flags, naturally! And how on earth she could be so unaware as to lightheartedly refer to her sister-in- law having said she "nearly choked on (her) full English" beggars belief.

by Cake Lover 12.07.24 17:29

She also refers breezily to 'kids that have been taken, or killed, whatever'. Don't you just love her warmth?

by Honesty 12.07.24 18:00

The "whatever" surely indicates a very casual approach to the loss of a child - in the usual sense.

by Bluebagthepirate 12.07.24 18:25

Cake Lover wrote:She also refers breezily to 'kids that have been taken, or killed, whatever'. Don't you just love her warmth?

Back of throat clluùcckķ...

by Liz Eagles 13.07.24 11:12

GreenTara wrote:
Liz Eagles wrote:My book has arrived. I am only 25 pages in as I'm resisting the temptation to skip to the juicy bits. Before I could possibly comment I need to read the book in its entirety and in the order in which it is presented.
I felt exactly the same! Looking forward to hearing what you think of it

When I comment I will be defining myself as a transgender dolphin with sea issues. Let Carter Fluck grapple with that.