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Post by Liz Eagles 17.06.24 13:49

Hands up by posting a yay if you have bothered to read the rogatory files.

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Post by Liz Eagles 17.06.24 13:56

AnneCGuedes wrote:
PeterMac wrote:

I don't think criticism of the Medium is well founded.
Let is concentrate on the Message, which ultimately boils down to ONE proposition alone

There was NO ABDUCTION ON THURSDAY 3/5/7


everything else flows from that, but is ultimately of lesser importance.
Whether Madeleine died on 2/5/7, or 1/5/7 or 30/4/7 or even 29/4/7 is an interesting detail but does not alter the force of the main proposition.

The parents state that Madeleine was abducted on 3/5/7
She wasn't

It follows from the total absence of any sign of abduction that the insistence of the parents, the MSM and the authorities on always referring to M's disappearance as an abduction is the real message.
What is unclear and will remain unclear until Scotland Yard does its duty for a three year old tot is the super inaudible reference.
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Post by Liz Eagles 17.06.24 14:05

Liz Eagles wrote:Hands up by posting a yay if you have bothered to read the rogatory files.
I mean every member on the forum.
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Post by PeterMac 17.06.24 19:35

EDIT :::::    Posted simultaneously, with the one above.  There's a coincidence for you Kate.

As Aquila, Liz E, has argued over many years, the rogatories and Gerrymccannsblogs hold masses of information.
But they are long, and appear daunting and boring to read in detail. 
In the Brick Stellander makes a neat observation
"People say 'the Devil is in the detail'
I say 'the Truth is in the detail'

He did have the time to plough through them all and 'make notes' (© K McCann) during COVID lockdown
With the result we see
His analysis is also long, and can appear daunting, but is worth the effort for a full understanding of how he reaches his conclusions and why he is so confident.

And slightly off topic, but too good not to share
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Post by crusader 18.06.24 8:18

My brick is coming today between 10 and 11 0clock.   Mrs
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Post by Cake Lover 18.06.24 8:41

celebrate if we don't hear from you for a couple of days we know why.
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Post by sandancer 18.06.24 9:46

Will you be at the front door waiting  ? Don't go to the bathroom that's when they always arrive 😁😁😁

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Post by Cake Lover 18.06.24 9:55

Too true ^ - I stayed in for two days waiting for a battery for my vacuum cleaner, and I was in the shower this morning when the  courier phoned. I managed to be out by the time he rang the doorbell.
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Post by crusader 18.06.24 9:57

I'm perched ready to pounce! Today is shopping day, I'm not moving until the brick is in my hands.
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Post by crusader 18.06.24 10:15

It's here, I rushed out as soon as I saw the van arrive.
The van driver said he wished everyone was so pleased to see him.
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Post by Jill Havern 18.06.24 10:22

Have you read it yet?   clapping

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Post by crusader 18.06.24 10:33

I daren't open it! I've got to go shopping.
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Post by PeterMac 18.06.24 11:23

Get a sharp Kitchen knife or craft knife like a Stanley.
Insert it between pp 275 - 275
and slice the spine in a succession of cuts 
until you get right through the thick glue and the shiny card cover
Then do it again between pp 602-603
You then have THREE books you can pick up, open and actually handle and read

Good luck. The first part (half a kilo) is heavy going for people who never read
the rogatory interviews in depth, but astonishing and enlightening for those too.,
as we realise how many admissions there are 'embedded' in them

And once you are though that, the second half Kilo (volume 2) calls on many of 
Kate's admissions in her book and in interviews which tell us in detail about the death, 
the circumstances, the date and the first disposal.

Then the third half Kilo is 
"Indiana Stellander and The Secret Tomb" 
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 18.06.24 11:33

Brick finally ordered.

Website was a bit of a pain but it's done.
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Post by Jill Havern 18.06.24 11:49

PeterMac wrote: 
"Indiana Stellander and The Secret Tomb" 
laugh  Love it!
(If it wasn't so serious)

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Post by Paddingtom 18.06.24 13:13

I ordered mine before Crusader.

Its stuck in customs in coventry!!!!!........uh oh.....hope I dont get carter rucked
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Post by Silentscope 19.06.24 13:57

@PeterMac wrote:

It is impressive that the statement from Germany let Clarke off the hook so lightly, by talking about an exaggeration or perhaps a misinterpretation of a subordinate clause.  That is an act of charity or mercy.


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I am not impressed. 


This is not an act of Charity or Mercy, as the German Legal system is based on the 'Hard but Fair' principle. Clarke is just hiding behind his British Citizenship in a Foreign land. If he were German and in Germany, he could be Charged with Interference or even Libel.


It stinks of Complicity from the desk of HCW, who knowing full well there was no real Evidence proceeded with a Fictional Case that Brückner first 'Abducted' then 'Killed' Madeleine Beth McCann.


Well Hans, 'Show us the Body, and prove he killed her'.
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Post by AnneCGuedes 19.06.24 17:44

HCW is clearly prepared to do anything to achieve his goal, which, like St George, is to have brought down the foul beast.
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Post by GreenTara 20.06.24 15:00

I was tempted to go straight to the last section but refrained. I’m reading every word, starting at the very beginning. 
I’m about a fifth of the way thru and believe it really is worth reading it cover to cover. There is meaning in everything he chooses to do. The explanation of the front cover is poignant and beautiful. The dedications are moving. 
So onto the first section. As we know the Tapas9 statements are crazy and it’s easy to understand why they refused a reenactment, it simply wouldn’t be possible. As we also know the statements were forever changing. Stellander has undertaken to look at each of the statements of the key players and to explore each permutation of the variations. Thus concluding where each route ends and as you can imagine the number of routes are endless. That is one brave man! He is speaking to you, the reader and apologises for how trawling a read it is but encourages you to continue. Indeed he makes it a surprisingly enjoyable read. I am only on that first section, he is just bringing the checking system to a close so I can only share my views up to this point.
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Post by Jill Havern 20.06.24 16:28

Thank you for your feedback GreenTara. I look forward to even more of your input about the book.

Please use this thread to further discuss the contents   thumbsup
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Post by GreenTara 20.06.24 16:36

Thank you, I did wonder if I wrote it in the correct thread…oopsy! Will move it…
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Post by Jill Havern 20.06.24 16:46

You can certainly copy it over to the other thread if you wouldn't mind, but I'll leave your comment here aswell.

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Post by PeterMac 07.07.24 11:10

Operation Brick Phase 2
Completed

The Brick is now in the hands of 
* H. Wolters
* H. Fülscher
* Kate Healy / Gerry McCann
* Matt Oldfield / Rachael Oldfield
* David Payne / Fiona Payne
* Russell O'Brien / Jane Tanner
* Clarence Mitchell

And many other people across the world

The Brick is being prepared for electronic release, (using an English speaking proof reader this time) with some minor and ultimately irrelevant errors corrected.

It may include the Executive Summary
She Died
They Lied
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Post by Silentscope 07.07.24 11:18

Wolters will have three Weeks Holiday time to read his Copy.

I wonder if he will have a Job afterwards?

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Post by Cake Lover 07.07.24 11:39

Excellent. What will the four couples, and Mitchell, mentioned in post #98, do?
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