Re: Norwegian ex-military detective claims to have solved Madeleine case

by Liz Eagles 27.05.24 23:21

Honesty wrote:I'm not very familiar with Sonia Poulton, though I had heard of her, and I was surprised and sorry to read of Jill's bad experience with her but perhaps it's a good thing that the new book is getting some publicity over here, particularly as the main stream media will probably ignore it for as long as possible.

When a so called dynamite book the size of breeze block, seven years in the making by an author who has sketchy credentials is given to an equally sketchy journalist I have to question that.

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 4:18

I don't care what his credentials are or who he talks with to promote his work - he's certainly not going to be interviewed by mainstream media, so why not Sonia? If he's got the McCanns and 'the golden nuggets' on field cameras as promised, and can crack the case and let Maddie finally come home to rest in peace and bring the perpetrators to justice, then that's all that's important.

All we can do is sit and wait for the website and to see what happens. If it all kicks off, as promised, he'll be interviewed by mainstream media for cracking the case of the most famous missing person in modern times.

If nothing materializes then I guess he's played 'cat and mouse' with all of us oh go on

- but the book was still a damn good read.

At the moment I remain optimistic.

I have to...for my own sanity daft

by **PeterMac** 28.05.24 6:54

Liz Eagles wrote:If this book is of substance why not choose another avenue?

He is trying to find ANY avenue into the English speaking world.
The British press will not even mention the book, either because of a Super-inaudible or because their ultimate owners have forbidden it.
He cannot choose. He has to grasp at opportunities.

by Bluebagthepirate 28.05.24 7:01

He could post one of the videos on Rumble, doesn't have to wait for a website.
I'm sure Sonia would even oblidge.

It certainly would help with the doubters and fence sitters.

by Ladyinred 28.05.24 7:06

Sonia said that their next conversation would be on Rumble in about two weeks' time, so maybe then.

I had never heard of Rumble before.

by Honesty 28.05.24 7:30

Isn't any publicity grist to the mill? I haven't read the book, Peter and Jill have done/are doing that for us but I think Mr Stellander presents very well. He seems very focused and determined, but in a considered, measured way. I don't think he is ever going to give up on this. If I were the McCanns, I'd be very worried.

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 7:58

Honesty wrote:Isn't any publicity grist to the mill? I haven't read the book, Peter and Jill have done/are doing that for us but I think Mr Stellander presents very well. He seems very focused and determined, but in a considered, measured way. I don't think he is ever going to give up on this. If I were the McCanns, I'd be very worried.

Unless they know for sure it wasn't them on the Hill from the detailed descriptions given in the book...then they've nothing to worry about and will simply remain silent and let it blow over.

It now all depends on how clear the field cam footage is when it appears on the website, and if the McCanns can be 100% recognised.

At the moment, he's making them sweat.

by Honesty 28.05.24 8:32

Even if it isn't the McCanns and the body wasn't buried there, the net seems to be closing in on the McCanns, if only a little bit more at present. The new book must have ramped up the pressure on everyone involved. I think/hope that Mr Stellander is right when he said, something along the lines, that one of them will start to talk. Or perhaps someone they have confided in will do so. Amazing, to me at least, how it's gone on so long with so many people in the know.

by Bluebagthepirate 28.05.24 9:04

I really really want this to be real.

I'm being held back because from bitter experience "too good to be true" usually disappoints.

You never know.

My wife asked why he hasn't gone directly to the Portuguese Police with all this.

by Cake Lover 28.05.24 9:19

I said the same, but I think that doing what he has done makes sure that they can't ignore the book. They can't refuse to acknowledge it, on whatever political or 'reasons of confidentiality' or 'ongoing investigation' grounds they choose.

by crusader 28.05.24 9:41

One thing we do know for sure, the McCann's went on a "well deserved break" instead of attending the service/prayer vigil this year.
That to me speaks volumes.

by Cake Lover 28.05.24 9:44

'Well deserved' my eye. It's panic mode for sure. I'd like to know how Goncalo Amaral feels about the book.

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 10:21

Bluebagthepirate wrote:I really really want this to be real.

I'm being held back because from bitter experience "too good to be true" usually disappoints.

You never know.

My wife asked why he hasn't gone directly to the Portuguese Police with all this.

He did go to the PJ...with a memory stick of photos.

Amaral: "This case was archived due to polical reasons"

Mr Stellander has to break through the politics too.

It's not just the McCanns and the 'Golden Nuggets' who are sweating. Not just Portugal but the UK.

And Cat Nanny.

by Cake Lover 28.05.24 11:13

A day after the interview, and still it hasn't had a mention, apart from here.

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 11:19

Bluebagthepirate wrote:He could post one of the videos on Rumble, doesn't have to wait for a website.
I'm sure Sonia would even oblidge.

It certainly would help with the doubters and fence sitters.

Be patient!

Mr Stellander knows exactly what he's doing - he showed extraordinary patience during his investigation and game of 'cat and mouse' on the Hill. Patience that spanned years. His investigation is pretty much* over, his book is complete, and now we all have to wait to see what unfolds with the police and 'golden nuggets'.

* pending further investigation should the PJ/Grange not step up to the plate (calls his bluff) with the ground penetrating equipment/cadaver dogs.

The game is not over. All of what's happening now is just part of his strategy to get those in authority to do the job they're paid to do and with the info he's already given them on memory sticks.

Colin Sutton used ground penetrating equipment and cadaver dogs in his Fred and Rose West investigation to successfully find more graves...Lt Col Danie Krugel is ready and willing to do the same.

Let's not forget that Danie couldn't pinpoint the exact spot of Maddie's burial site...but Mr Stellander believes he has. There is a diagram in his book that shows the vast difference in areas between Krugel's and Stellander's.

by Cake Lover 28.05.24 11:32

Jill Havern wrote:To be fair, I only got my book on Thursday morning and read the last 'Volume' over the past two days.

It is a massive book and anyone who's now got it will easily take a week to read the whole thing, unless they start at the end as I did. And if they've also got a full-time job then it would take even longer.

I tweeted the Met Police, Dan Wootton and Peter Bleksley with a link to the book and PeterMac has written to Grange...and today, he's also written to others including Esther McVey, the Home Office and others.

Given that Grange do bugger all with their time, they should be the first to reply...right?

I hope you and Petermac received acknowledgment from those you contacted.

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 11:45

Not a dicky bird for me, not even a 'like' for my tweet from Dan Wootton nah

So I unsubscribed from his Substack.

Cos I'm like that.

by Cake Lover 28.05.24 11:48

the fearless, 'nobody owns me now' Dan?

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 11:58

Dan is more focussed on the other MBM....

...Meghan Bloody Markle.

Cos the whereabouts of a dead 3-year-old, and trying to bring down the house of cards of corruption isn't as important, it would seem, than some grifter trying to sell jam.

by Ladyinred 28.05.24 12:29

Jill Havern wrote:
Bluebagthepirate wrote:I really really want this to be real.

I'm being held back because from bitter experience "too good to be true" usually disappoints.

You never know.

My wife asked why he hasn't gone directly to the Portuguese Police with all this.
He did go to the PJ...with a memory stick of photos.

Amaral: "This case was archived due to polical reasons"

Mr Stellander has to break through the politics too.

It's not just the McCanns and the 'Golden Nuggets' who are sweating. Not just Portugal but the UK.

And Cat Nanny.

I shall be reading the Cat Nanny threads to refresh my memory.

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 13:00

crusader wrote:One thing we do know for sure, the McCann's went on a "well deserved break" instead of attending the service/prayer vigil this year.
That to me speaks volumes.

And it was a very sudden 'well deserved break'...swiftly following another email.

by AnneCGuedes 28.05.24 13:50

Cake Lover wrote:I said the same, but I think that doing what he has done makes sure that they can't ignore the book. They can't refuse to acknowledge it, on whatever political or 'reasons of confidentiality' or 'ongoing investigation' grounds they choose.

The PJ would not refuse a rogatory mission if the Met or the BKA requested one concerning the allegedly buried body. But I doubt they would take the initiative of officially searching the place. It wouldn't be politically correct, GA is right. And if you think of all the insults and false accusations that the PJ and Portugal have been the target of, you'll admit that they're a bit right.

by Cake Lover 28.05.24 15:18

Yes, they don't need any more maligning. Maybe some of them will read the book privately.

by Honesty 28.05.24 15:27

No doubt I should know, but who is Cat Nanny, please?

by crusader 28.05.24 15:32

"Cat" is Catriona Baker , the nanny that looked after Madeleine in the creche.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CATRIONA-TREASA.htm

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 16:01

If Maddie had her accident on Sunday, did she get chance to go to the Creche?

by crusader 28.05.24 16:08

If Madeleine died on Sunday, that would have been the first and last time she did go to the creche, or anywhere else for that matter.
She was seen by the cleaner on Sunday at lunchtime, I'm presuming she was at creche on Sunday morning, so she had half a day at creche.
I'm surprised there was a creche on a Sunday actually, I find that very odd.

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 16:11

She might have had an accident on Sunday, but it doesn't mean she died that day...but if she sustained a head injury and a bleed on the brain, would she have been well enough to go to the creche?

by **Jill Havern** 28.05.24 16:21

Either ~~CMOMM~~ MMRG is wrong about Sunday...or Mr Stellander is wrong about Wednesday. If Maddie fell on the Sunday (but didn't die until the Wednesday) there wouldn't have been cadaver odour behind the sofa.

Although Eddie also alerts to blood, whereas Keela doesn't alert to cadaver.

I wonder if Eddie gives different signals for blood and cadaver?

eta: I've crossed out CMOMM because not everyone on the forum agrees with the MMRG....soz blushing1

by Silentscope 28.05.24 17:34

When do we accept the last time Madeleine was seen by someone not connected with the Tapas group?

The Cleaner seeing Madeleine on Sunday?

Or the Public Relations Woman at Breakfast on Thursday?

Cecilia Paula Dias Firmino do Carmo
When asked, she says that due to her work she knows most of the guests given that most of them visit the Millenium as it is the only restaurant that serves breakfast.

When asked, she says that she knows the parents, the siblings and Madeleine. She received them for breakfast on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, she does not know whether they went for breakfast on Sunday or Monday, as these were her days off.

She says that breakfast was served between 08.00 and 10.00 and that the McCanns would arrive between 08.00 and 09.00.

Source: https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CECILIA-DFC.htm

This seems to be a Credible Witness, has she been overlooked?
Or are there any real Reasons why we should ignore her Testimoney?

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