Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

by rainbow-fairy 09.04.12 15:13

tigger wrote:I still find it strange to create a file without content.
The information given in the link above doesn't give the date the file was created. Which would be of interest. I was under the impression a year ago that it was created a fairly long time before 3/5/07.

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They wouldn't, tigger.

A file is a receptacle to put info in. No info, no file.

ETA: They wouldn't need to issue allocation numbers 'at the time' - they would just allocate them if they needed to. It's gibberish.

by Guest 09.04.12 15:17

Files are only created if there is something to put into them. If you take the reasoning from regretsandramblings, millions of offices, doctors, companies, would have filing cabinets cluttering up huge amount of space with just names of people on them and totally empty files. It is absolute nonsense, it does not work that way. A file is only created when there is reason to.

by rainbow-fairy 09.04.12 15:24

candyfloss wrote:Files are only created if there is something to put into them. If you take the reasoning from regretsandramblings, millions of offices, doctors, companies, would have filing cabinets cluttering up huge amount of space with just names of people on them and totally empty files. It is absolute nonsense, it does not work that way. A file is only created when there is reason to.

Exactly candyfloss.
The scary thing is people fall for this nonsense.
I was a receptionist. You just do NOT make a file for nothing. Purely ridiculous.

by **tigger** 09.04.12 15:45

It may be that more than one authorization is needed to delete a file, or perhaps files cannot be deleted at all, since the missing number will show up in the list. So the only option would have been to empty it which may only have required one authorization.
That's my theory, for what it's worth.

by Guest 09.04.12 15:46

It's a bit like your computer. Would you make thousands of files on different subjects, just in case you wanted to put something in there. Of course not, you make a file when there is something to go in it. Total and utter claptrap as usual from the usual suspects.

by rainbow-fairy 09.04.12 16:12

tigger wrote:It may be that more than one authorization is needed to delete a file, or perhaps files cannot be deleted at all, since the missing number will show up in the list. So the only option would have been to empty it which may only have required one authorization.
That's my theory, for what it's worth.

And it sounds more likely than that mumbo-jumbo nonsense from regrets and ramblings[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by russiandoll 09.04.12 16:34

ah but.... Rainbow Fairy

"Exactly. And the file would not be empty... it stinks to high heaven"

using the tapas lot's favourite, the passive voice......

maybe IT WAS EMPTIED ??

by rainbow-fairy 09.04.12 16:42

russiandoll wrote: ah but.... Rainbow Fairy

"Exactly. And the file would not be empty... it stinks to high heaven"

using the tapas lot's favourite, the passive voice......

maybe IT WAS EMPTIED ??

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by anil39200 09.04.12 17:17

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that any harm has come to the files. I am Sure they are being errr being cared for in someone's lawless in-tray somewhere and giving whoever has them their paperclip's worth. It is simply ludicrous to suggest we are in Any way connected with the abd......errr disappearance of the contents which have clearly been wooshed away. There has been a report of a sighting of a bundle being carried in a pink carrier bag, but history suggests that more information may ne drip fed over the coming years as we errr develop, err learn more . To donate to the search for these errr fil....errr contents or buy a super quality rubber band in case you spot them in a bin on your holidays, please call the following number...

by rainbow-fairy 09.04.12 17:44

anil39200 wrote:There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that any harm has come to the files. I am Sure they are being errr being cared for in someone's lawless in-tray somewhere and giving whoever has them their paperclip's worth. It is simply ludicrous to suggest we are in Any way connected with the abd......errr disappearance of the contents which have clearly been wooshed away. There has been a report of a sighting of a bundle being carried in a pink carrier bag, but history suggests that more information may ne drip fed over the coming years as we errr develop, err learn more . To donate to the search for these errr fil....errr contents or buy a super quality rubber band in case you spot them in a bin on your holidays, please call the following number...

naughty anil! Wink

by **tigger** 09.04.12 17:51

rainbow-fairy wrote:
anil39200 wrote:There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that any harm has come to the files. I am Sure they are being errr being cared for in someone's lawless in-tray somewhere and giving whoever has them their paperclip's worth. It is simply ludicrous to suggest we are in Any way connected with the abd......errr disappearance of the contents which have clearly been wooshed away. There has been a report of a sighting of a bundle being carried in a pink carrier bag, but history suggests that more information may ne drip fed over the coming years as we errr develop, err learn more . To donate to the search for these errr fil....errr contents or buy a super quality rubber band in case you spot them in a bin on your holidays, please call the following number...
naughty anil!

by anil39200 09.04.12 17:53

Sorry I just needed a little light relief.
Ask the filing cabinet Sondra.
Did it again ooooops, it really is sending me round the bend.

by anil39200 09.04.12 17:55

by rainbow-fairy 09.04.12 18:02

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We all need a giggle now and again! No longer on laptop so no emoticons but this was a spit coffee moment 'Ask the filing cabinet Sondra' Wink

I'm lovin' it lovin' it lovin' it...

by puzzled 09.04.12 18:26

There's just one thing that puzzles me about this CATS reference - if Gerry McCann had been in trouble for child abuse offences before 2007, wouldn't he have lost his license to practice medicine?

by rainbow-fairy 09.04.12 18:43

puzzled wrote:There's just one thing that puzzles me about this CATS reference - if Gerry McCann had been in trouble for child abuse offences before 2007, wouldn't he have lost his license to practice medicine?

Now that, I really don't know. I suppose it would depend on level of seriousness (in my eyes, its all serious) and when it was.
I'm pretty sure policemen can carry on, so doctors probably the same.
I remember reading about a policeman (I think he'd collected images) and he was not kicked out iirc?

by Guest 09.04.12 18:47

I rather think that the question of whether or not someone convicted of a crime against a child or of downloading porn keeps their job depends on who their friends are.

by rainbow-fairy 09.04.12 18:57

Jean wrote:I rather think that the question of whether or not someone convicted of a crime against a child or of downloading porn keeps their job depends on who their friends are.

Agreed Jean. As seems to be evidenced over and over in this case.,.

by uppatoffee 09.04.12 19:41

Presumably they would have to be charged and convicted to lose their job. Perhaps a reported incident that was never brought to court may sit on file in case of any future incidents? Perhaps PeterMac could shed some light?

by Letterwriter 10.04.12 20:44

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by rainbow-fairy 11.04.12 2:20

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TY Letterwriter :)

by **tigger** 11.04.12 6:28

That would go very well with wanting to stay in Portugal ...

On the flight to Berlin, Gerry wearily admitted the couple's campaign to find Madeleine could last years.

They refuse to leave Praia da Luz while their precious daughter is still missing.

Asked how long they might stay there, he said: "Well, our kids don't start school for three years."'

- Daily Mirror, 07 June 2007

by aiyoyo 11.04.12 13:10

That remark sure does not tally up with him still having a job at NHS to return to?

What did he hope to live on in PDL for three years ? Far as we know the mccanns were skint when they were in PdL that John Mccann was begging people to send them money to help with all sorts (including possibly living expenses) hence their use of the Fund to pay for two mortgage payment.

by **tigger** 11.04.12 15:12

aiyoyo wrote:That remark sure does not tally up with him still having a job at NHS to return to?

What did he hope to live on in PDL for three years ? Far as we know the mccanns were skint when they were in PdL that John Mccann was begging people to send them money to help with all sorts (including possibly living expenses) hence their use of the Fund to pay for two mortgage payment.

They were going to learn Portugese and made statements to the effect that they would not leave Portugal without Madeleine.
I think they'd rather hope to get enough from the Fund - which is why it was started up so quickly. It worked didn't it? Then the book may already have been a possibility - hence keeping the diaries.
Gerry - I think - was hoping for a sort of political or roving ambassador for lost children job. He was overjoyed to go to the US re Amber Alert. They also went to Brussels with that aim in mind? To front Amber Alert in Europe?
Far more glamorous future than boring old Rothley.

by jd 05.05.12 16:39

Just adding this for info for later reference

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jd, I have deleted your copy and paste from above. I'm afraid some of it seems highly libellous.

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by Ashwarya 05.05.12 23:04

Thanks for the link - a very illuminating read.

by jd 05.05.12 23:29

jd wrote:Just adding this for info for later reference

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jd, I have deleted your copy and paste from above. I'm afraid some of it seems highly libellous.

Anyone can read above link

Ok thanks CF. Ive saved it anyway just incase steel magnolia disappears one day!

by Spaniel 05.05.12 23:53

jd wrote:
jd wrote:Just adding this for info for later reference

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jd, I have deleted your copy and paste from above. I'm afraid some of it seems highly libellous.

Anyone can read above link

Ok thanks CF. Ive saved it anyway just incase steel magnolia disappears one day!

I don't understand how "losing" his credit cards could benefit him in any way.

I do remember by my looking at a 2007 calendar how tight the timeline was in delivering them via friends from Amsterdam to PdL, taking into account there was a weekend in between. Plus the fact they were originally posted by the thief to the wrong address.

by **PeterMac** 06.05.12 6:41

Be very careful with Operation Ore. It was not what it originally seemed.
At base it was a credit card scam operated from South America, which because of the way it was set up suggested to the investigating officers that something was amiss.
The bloke who ran it has confessed and is horrified at the consequences.
There are good explanations of what happened out there on the net.
A lot of people were accused of something they had not done.

by **tigger** 06.05.12 6:53

PeterMac wrote:Be very careful with Operation Ore. It was not what it originally seemed.
At base it was a credit card scam operated from South America, which because of the way it was set up suggested to the investigating officers that something was amiss.
The bloke who ran it has confessed and is horrified at the consequences.
There are good explanations of what happened out there on the net.
A lot of people were accused of something they had not done.

Not long ago a pensioner committed suicide in Cardiff. He'd bought a second hand computer which had deleted porn on the hard drive. As you know that can be retrieved. Police questioned him and although they let him go - his name had been in the papers. Very sad.

Although I must add that anything TB slaps a D notice on, would get my immediate attention.

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