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Post by Tony Bennett on 02.12.14 22:52

The Operation Grange madness continues - with an all-expenses trip to the holiday island of Malta, funded again by the British taxpayer.

No expense is being spared in this effort to cement public perception that Madeleine McCann was abducted:


   

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Post by Brian Griffin on 02.12.14 22:56

Love the headline under it. I know, as soon as the contractions start, the midwife should just go to the pub and get pissed up and leave the mother to it. It's safe at home, after all, just like it was safe in that apartment in PDL, and the boozer is only half a mile away - just like being in one's own garden really...

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Post by maebee on 02.12.14 23:31

@Tony Bennett wrote:The Operation Grange madness continues - with an all-expenses trip to the holiday island of Malta, funded again by the British taxpayer.

No expense is being spared in this effort to cement public perception that Madeleine McCann was abducted:


   
 

Hi Tony, I wouldn't take too much notice of what the Daily Mirror tells us about "Maddie Cops". My glass is still half full :)
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Re: 'Maddie cops to quiz British paedo in prison in Malta', MIRROR, 3 Dec 2014 - on and on it goes

Post by jeanmonroe on 02.12.14 23:53

Ronald McPatsy anyone?

Malta GC: NO 'nasty' PJ 'THERE' sitting in on 'questioning'!

"Could we have a tinchy incy 'sample' of you hair and DNA Mr McPatsy, and take it to our Dept Q at the SY'?

"We are sure it won't 'match' the unidentified hairs and DNA in apartment G5A we are getting 'tested'"

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Post by sharonl on 03.12.14 0:11

How exactly, do British police intend to gain entry into a Maltese prison? They are having problems getting past the Portuguese authorities, I don't think they'll have much luck here.

And does this prisoner have a name?

Going by the standard of recent Daily Mirror reports, I wouldn't be surprised to find that this man has been inside since 2006.

What happened to the burglars that broke in and took Madeleine?  Have they been cleared yet?

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Re: 'Maddie cops to quiz British paedo in prison in Malta', MIRROR, 3 Dec 2014 - on and on it goes

Post by jeanmonroe on 03.12.14 2:30

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cops-quiz-british-4736648

British police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have quizzed a convicted paedophile said to have been in the Algarve when she vanished.
Officers from Scotland Yard flew to Malta to question Roderick MacDonald, 77, in his prison cell in a bid to uncover any vital clues about who snatched little Madeleine, aged three at the time.
MacDonald was questioned about his alleged connection to a child sex gang operating in Portugal, linked to her disappearance.
It is believed he was pressed on what he knew about a spate of burglaries which occurred in the Praia da Luz resort where Madeleine’s family were staying when she went missing in 2007.
British detectives reckon the burglaries – believed to be carried out by a lone intruder between 2004 and 2010 – could be the key to finally solving what happened to her.

The latest development comes as it was confirmed 11 people – four of whom are thought to be British – due to be quizzed over Madeleine’s disappearance next week will be asked to attend a police station as witnesses, not as suspects.
Scotland Yard said they would not give a “running commentary” on the investigation but their
visit to MacDonald was confirmed by Maltese Government officials.
MacDonald was due to be extradited to the UK after he was remanded in custody in Malta.
But when detectives there searched his flat in the quiet village of Sannat they uncovered a stash of child pornography and sentenced him to 16 months in prison.
This forced Scotland Yard detectives to jet out to Malta in order to question him at the Corradino Correctional Facility outside the capital Valletta.
A close friend of MacDonald’s, who had no idea about his sordid past, said: “He was always talking about how he was in the Algarve when Madeleine went missing.
"He would brag about how he sailed a yacht into Praia da Luz but we never thought anything of it.
“We had no idea how evil this man was before he was arrested. Now it seems completely sinister. No wonder the police were so keen to quiz him.”

MacDonald, of Aldershot, Hants, was first arrested in the Algarve in 2010 and extradited to Australia where he was wanted for the 1998 rape of an eight-year-old.
He got six months’ jail after accepting a plea deal for indecently assaulting the child then fled to Thailand after he was released.
After being deported to Britain by Thai authorities due to his history, MacDonald – previously known as Roderick William Robinson – settled in Brighton, East Sussex.
Despite being put on the sex offenders’ register, he was convicted of molesting two girls, aged five and seven, on a boat at Sussex Yacht Club in 2012.
He fled abroad prior to his sentence and was handed a 12-month prison sentence suspended for two years in his absence.
When he was finally arrested in a dramatic swoop on his flat on the island of Gozo he is believed to have told detectives: “I should have spoken about all this years ago.”

MacDonald is the first person to be questioned in connection with Madeleine’s disappearance since July, when four men were quizzed as arguidos – persons of interest.
They all denied any involvement.
The 11 people due to be interviewed as witnesses are reported to include Robert Murat, his German wife Michaela Walczuch, her ex-partner Luis Antonio and John Hill, the manager of the Ocean Club where the McCanns were staying.
IT consultant Mr Murat – who had his arguido status removed in 2008 when the first Portuguese enquiry was shelved – has said his conscience is clear and he is happy to speak to police again if required.
The Operation Grange squad who will sit in on the interviews, led by Portuguese police, will include team leader Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cops-quiz-british-4736648
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MacDonald was questioned about his alleged connection to a child sex gang operating in Portugal, linked to her disappearance.
It is believed he was pressed on what he knew about a spate of burglaries which occurred in the Praia da Luz resort where Madeleine’s family were staying when she went missing in 2007.

British detectives reckon the burglaries – believed to be carried out by a lone intruder between 2004 and 2010 – could be the key to finally solving what happened to her.
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So NOW we HAVE 'a child sex GANG' LINKED to Madeleine's 'disappearance'!

PROOF PLEASE!

British detectives reckon the burglaries – believed to be carried out by a lone intruder between 2004 and 2010 – could be the key to finally solving what happened to her.

So NOW we HAVE 'a LONE intruder' could be the key to Madeleine's 'disappearance'!

Oh please!
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"RECKON"?   wtf2

Jeeezz! Whatever happened to REAL 'investigation'?

NOT wild 'guesses'......................'reckon'

I 'RECKON' DCI Mahogany and his elite 'team' should be sacked and replaced by REAL cops, that don't sit around, 'reckoning'!

And DCI Mahogany charged with 'WRECK(on)ING' ANY real 'attempt' to discover the MATERIAL TRUTH about a 3 years old child's 'disappearance'!

all, mo, as always.

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Re: 'Maddie cops to quiz British paedo in prison in Malta', MIRROR, 3 Dec 2014 - on and on it goes

Post by espeland on 03.12.14 6:33

jeanmonroe wrote:
"British detectives "reckon"............................

"RECKON"?  

Jeeezz! Whatever happened to REAL 'investigation'?

NOT wild 'guesses'......................'reckon'

I 'RECKON' DCI Mahogany and his elite 'team' should be sacked and replaced by REAL cops, that don't sit around, 'reckoning'!

And DCI Mahogany charged with 'WRECK(on)ING' ANY real 'attempt' to discover the MATERIAL TRUTH about a 3 years old child's 'disappearance'!

all, mo, as always.



But this is not news. The Mirror says detectives "flew" to Malta and it's a story we knew about months ago.  For once, I think you're being unfair to Redwood and his team. The real failure, of course, lies with the MSM.

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Post by sharonl on 03.12.14 6:58

@jeanmonroe wrote:

So NOW we HAVE 'a child sex GANG' LINKED to Madeleine's 'disappearance'!

PROOF PLEASE!

Maybe we have, could this be the Spartacus Club?  The UK Elite Paedophile ring who rents out places like Elm House and other guest houses and holiday apartments. 

Goodness knows who belongs to this club.  Government officials, celebrities, teachers, doctors, priests etc.

That might explain the high level interference in this case.

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Post by Google.Gaspar.Statements on 03.12.14 7:05

@sharonl wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:

So NOW we HAVE 'a child sex GANG' LINKED to Madeleine's 'disappearance'!

PROOF PLEASE!

Maybe we have, could this be the Spartacus Club?  The UK Elite Paedophile ring who rents out places like Elm House and other guest houses and holiday apartments. 

Goodness knows who belongs to this club.  Government officials, celebrities, teachers, doctors, priests etc.

That might explain the high level interference in this case.
Spartacus Club? Has that been discussed here before? New to me.

Haven't we had some pro-M trolls here who kept ending their posts with 'I am Spartacus! ??   skull
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Post by Bishop Brennan on 03.12.14 7:08

@espeland wrote:
But this is not news. The Mirror says detectives "flew" to Malta and it's a story we knew about months ago.  For once, I think you're being unfair to Redwood and his team. The real failure, of course, lies with the MSM.

As we move deeper into the End Game, the stakes continue to get higher. The high-level whitewash is still very much alive - SY delaying their Portuguese visit to coincide with the Libel Trial next week confirms that beyond any doubt. But with the recent set of 'interviewees', SY are also getting a bit closer to the McCanns.

Recycling this kind of old tat may be a panic move by the 'whitewash' team - but in fairness it's consistent with the usual tactic of releasing big media onslaughts around the time of the libel trial.

Right now it's still looking very whitewashy. The recent posts by TextUSA et al injected some hope in us all, but as soon as we realised the SY had delayed their visit specifically to coincide (again) with the libel trial, that hope has all but evaporated. It's a roller-coaster, and likely to get even bumpier as we go along!

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Post by Guest on 03.12.14 7:51

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cops-quiz-british-4736648[/mention] wrote:
Despite being put on the sex offenders’ register, he was convicted of molesting two girls, aged five and seven, on a boat at Sussex Yacht Club in 2012.
He fled abroad prior to his sentence and was handed a 12-month prison sentence suspended for two years in his absence.

Incredible.
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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 03.12.14 8:14

Okay, so we have Grange leaking stuff to the press on purpose, or the press guesstimating wildly, to cover all possible permutations other than the most obvious, evidence-backed one. In their attempt to present the public with the illusion that £10m is being well spent, they have created the distinct impression that they have not a clue what they are doing, and for once the sheeple do not seem to be buying it. The "outing" of the Westminster and BBC pedophile rings could not have come at a worse time for an expensive whitewash/vanity project like Grange, especially as it has come to light that SY had extensive pedophile dossiers which not only did they not act on, but seemingly sent to the shredder.They won't be able to keep this farce up for much longer.

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Post by aiyoyo on 03.12.14 9:24

@Smokeandmirrors wrote:Okay, so we have Grange leaking stuff to the press on purpose, or the press guesstimating wildly, to cover all possible permutations other than the most obvious, evidence-backed one. 


No, not Grange !  Can only be TM or the Papers are making it up.  

Grange would have to submit ILOR to Malta this that the other and what not before they can operate in another country's judiciary.  They would have to seek co-operation first.
Can't see them going through all that just to pay the guy a courtesy visit.
If he was their 'guy' he would have been extradited, much simplier and quicker.
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Post by plebgate on 03.12.14 9:28

Yesterday we heard about the new date for libel trial, today we have this (old) news.    Another coincidence?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 03.12.14 10:23

@plebgate wrote:Yesterday we heard about the new date for libel trial, today we have this (old) news.    Another coincidence?

WHO, at the 'Mirror' has the authority and endorses that Maddie 'stories' can go to press'?

WHO 'gives' the 'SAY SO'?

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Post by BlueBag on 03.12.14 10:24

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cops-quiz-british-4736648[/mention] wrote:
Despite being put on the sex offenders’ register, he was convicted of molesting two girls, aged five and seven, on a boat at Sussex Yacht Club in 2012.
He fled abroad prior to his sentence and was handed a 12-month prison sentence suspended for two years in his absence.

Incredible.
I tried to find out more about the girls on the yacht story because I also couldn't believe that sentence.

There's no report of the court case I can see.

I think the story is not as told and the "molesting" may have been exaggerated - a breach of sex register proximity rules maybe?
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Post by MRNOODLES on 03.12.14 10:26

Bearing in mind the Gaspar statements. Is it possible this pervert in prison is/was asked about all the other perverts he knew. And whether any of them are cuckoos in the McCann nest?
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Post by aquila on 03.12.14 10:29

@aiyoyo wrote:
@Smokeandmirrors wrote:Okay, so we have Grange leaking stuff to the press on purpose, or the press guesstimating wildly, to cover all possible permutations other than the most obvious, evidence-backed one. 


No, not Grange !  Can only be TM or the Papers are making it up.  

Grange would have to submit ILOR to Malta this that the other and what not before they can operate in another country's judiciary.  They would have to seek co-operation first.
Can't see them going through all that just to pay the guy a courtesy visit.
If he was their 'guy' he would have been extradited, much simplier and quicker.
I'm not sure if OG would need an ILOR to interview a British subject in Malta as part of its investigation. It's a bit of a grey area for me.
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Post by woodforthetrees on 03.12.14 10:44

@MRNOODLES wrote:Bearing in mind the Gaspar statements.  Is it possible this pervert in prison is/was asked about all the other perverts he knew.  And whether any of them are cuckoos in the McCann nest?

IMO this is most likely the case. His DNA will be on file already from previous cases, therefore would have been eliminated as a prime suspect very early on (or hauled in...which he hasn't been), therefore it will be a fishing exercise by OG to see what, or more importantly WHO he knows in the area that could have been involved in anything sinister.

Once a name is, or names are given, it would allow OG to question them from a different angle (not Madeleine specific) and apply some pressure/steer..

IMO of course

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Post by jeanmonroe on 03.12.14 10:46

Almost a YEAR 'AFTER' the 'event'!

"Err in my opinion, you know, IF this was, IF there was any foul play bestowed on them, (McCanns)

RUSSELL JAMES O'BRIEN SIGNED Rogatory interview STATEMENT 08/04/08

"you know because again this is something that we've talked about, you know, IF she (Madeleine) was abducted, you know, sorry..."

Person Interviewed: David PAYNE: Date of Interview: 11.04.08


IF? IFFFF?

So,

If, IFFF, Madeleine was NOT the 'victim' of 'foul play' OR 'abduction' (as R O'B & DP possibly 'suggest') WHERE does THAT leave us?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 03.12.14 11:07

@sharonl wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:

So NOW we HAVE 'a child sex GANG' LINKED to Madeleine's 'disappearance'!

PROOF PLEASE!

Maybe we have, could this be the Spartacus Club?  The UK Elite Paedophile ring who rents out places like Elm House and other guest houses and holiday apartments. 

Goodness knows who belongs to this club.  Government officials, celebrities, teachers, doctors, priests etc.

That might explain the high level interference in this case.

And 'victims' possibly 'supplied' by, say, 'respectable, pillars of the community, charidy fund raisers, 'how dare you accuse him/them of being a 'pervert'"' childrens mutliple CARE home 'owners'!

thinking

Oh, hang on...............

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ex-care-home-boss-john-allen-4726733

And

Meanwhile, a National Crime Agency spokesman denied it was investigating Allen in connection with supplying boys to child sex parties for prominent political figures at Dolphin Square in central London, which was reported in the Sunday Times.

"We do not have any evidence to suggest that John Allen supplied children for others," said the spokesman.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-30268731

Surprise? Surprise?.........NOT!

The SAME NCA that let that disgusting paedo doctor, Bradbury, carry on assaulting cancer kids, for 16 MONTHS, AFTER they, the brilliant NCA, incorperating CEOP, knew, KNEW, he was a pervert of the highest order!

And THEY, NCA, didn't even have to 'find' him!

They were given his 'name' on a plate by the Canadian Police!

BUT THEY DID NOTHING!

That's WHERE (NCA/CEOP) ''investigations' SHOULD be happening, right NOW!

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Post by PeterMac on 03.12.14 11:17

What do you use to whitewash whitewash ?
How do you cover up a cover-up ?

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Post by aiyoyo on 03.12.14 11:19

@aquila wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@Smokeandmirrors wrote:Okay, so we have Grange leaking stuff to the press on purpose, or the press guesstimating wildly, to cover all possible permutations other than the most obvious, evidence-backed one. 


No, not Grange !  Can only be TM or the Papers are making it up.  

Grange would have to submit ILOR to Malta this that the other and what not before they can operate in another country's judiciary.  They would have to seek co-operation first.
Can't see them going through all that just to pay the guy a courtesy visit.
If he was their 'guy' he would have been extradited, much simplier and quicker.
I'm not sure if OG would need an ILOR to interview a British subject in Malta as part of its investigation. It's a bit of a grey area for me.

It's only academic since I dont believe that took place.  IIRC, it was reported earlier he lived in NZ until 2009 and wasn't in PDL at the time of the incident.
Anything the UK newpapers print pertaining to the Mcs case is best taken taken with large bucket of salt since the source was never stated.
I suspect it's just spin from certain quarters out of desperation.  They must be running scared now that the interview of Murat and John Hill et al is imminent, not sign that SY are looking at burglar or snatcher.  Au contraire in fact.
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Post by jeanmonroe on 03.12.14 11:21

@PeterMac wrote:What do you use to whitewash a whitewash ?
How do you cover up a cover-up ?

Put DCI Mahogany, and 37 full time police 'staff', on the 'case'?

With BHH as the 'big' boss!

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Post by aquila on 03.12.14 11:23

@PeterMac wrote:What do you use to whitewash whitewash ?
How do you cover up a cover-up ?
You set up a government inquiry.
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