MADDIE COPS PRIME SUSPECT BLUNDER- tomorrows MIRROR 28/12/13
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Just when we thought it was oh so quiet!!
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Noddy I have deleted your thread as you could not post pic, and I started one at almost same time.
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Thankscandyfloss wrote:Noddy I have deleted your thread as you could not post pic, and I started one at almost same time.
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Bungling police chased the wrong suspect.............chased?? They didn't even break into a walk, What utter twaddle.
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Someone has written this on @hendopolis timeline.............
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Hmm, so would this be the 'prime suspect' that the PJ felt was twaddle in the first 5 minutes of hearing about from JT?
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I think this is having a dig at the McCanns for keeping the Tannerman on their site despite Redwood ruling him out in October. The media are fed up with the crud. IMO.
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They did rule out the innocent man six years ago by stating the sighting was made by a fantasist!!! Still think they are nearer the mark than SY
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It looks like a press release from Team McCann to smear the Portuguese police. If the PJ and SY are neck and neck as to who breaks the case, this latest story tells me that the PJ are ahead. They may also be pre-empting the summing up in the libel trial on 7th January, when there is a good chance Goncalo Amaral's lawyer will raise the fact that the McCanns suppressed the Smith family e-fits for 5+ years and thereby caused far more damage to the search than Goncalo's book.
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Are thy implying that the innocent dad made himself known to the Portuguese police years ago?
If so surely for it to have any credibility he needs to have been inc in the files
If so surely for it to have any credibility he needs to have been inc in the files
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Err, they did rule him out six years ago, it's only Team McCann who insist on keep ruling him back in.candyfloss wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Xenophobia from our press again. Blame it on the Portuguese.
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Same old, same old.
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Too cryptic for me at this time of night I'm afraid. Not getting your point?OOPSIDAISY wrote:So what my friend said about newspaper was correct....?? And he is not even on this Forum anymore....!!!! Having been banned.... for no apparent reason...(because of an old retired lady with a Cat/dog sitting by a computer in the hills of France).......
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Daisy wrote:Too cryptic for me at this time of night I'm afraid. Not getting your point?OOPSIDAISY wrote:So what my friend said about newspaper was correct....?? And he is not even on this Forum anymore....!!!! Having been banned.... for no apparent reason...(because of an old retired lady with a Cat/dog sitting by a computer in the hills of France).......
Just another feeble attempt to derail Daisy, don't worry.
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Spot on, Cristobell. Expect more MSM nonsense before 7/1/14
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I feel another yawn coming on. YAWN. I agree - same old, same old.
What story might be about to break?????????
What story might be about to break?????????
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I can't find this story on the Mirror's website - can anyone please provide a link?
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I won'tdantezebu wrote:Daisy wrote:Too cryptic for me at this time of night I'm afraid. Not getting your point?OOPSIDAISY wrote:So what my friend said about newspaper was correct....?? And he is not even on this Forum anymore....!!!! Having been banned.... for no apparent reason...(because of an old retired lady with a Cat/dog sitting by a computer in the hills of France).......
Just another feeble attempt to derail Daisy, don't worry.
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The chances of getting a sensible, truthful conclusion to this case get more remote with every headline.
The public have been bombarded with the most ridiculous theories, each more bizarre than the next.
Yet nobody dares speak out publicly or they face criminal charges and financial ruin.
Starting to wonder whether we do actually live in a freedom of speech country.
The public have been bombarded with the most ridiculous theories, each more bizarre than the next.
Yet nobody dares speak out publicly or they face criminal charges and financial ruin.
Starting to wonder whether we do actually live in a freedom of speech country.
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My theory is that the Mirror is just finding a way to concentrate themselves on the Smith man without being sued. Although I didn't read the article, I think it is their goal.They are indirectly devaluating Jane Tanner, one of the Tapas.
How to manage it, while Carter Ruck is around the corner?
I wonder if they know what is going on at the yard and at the PJ.
Another theory: Somebody of the Yard said that there will be a possibility that the PJ could arrest people in England and that the Yard could do the same in Portugal.
My theory is that that is a game, to catch the MCanns. It is a way to force them to go to Belgravia and to confess the truth because they probably prefer to be arrested by the Met and than by the PJ, which will take them to Portugal, a different culture, another language, poor prisons, far from their families, different food...
Portugal can not do anything about the fraudulent fund but England will do, when the parents return, after having
payed for their crime in Algarve.
Is my theory ok?
How to manage it, while Carter Ruck is around the corner?
I wonder if they know what is going on at the yard and at the PJ.
Another theory: Somebody of the Yard said that there will be a possibility that the PJ could arrest people in England and that the Yard could do the same in Portugal.
My theory is that that is a game, to catch the MCanns. It is a way to force them to go to Belgravia and to confess the truth because they probably prefer to be arrested by the Met and than by the PJ, which will take them to Portugal, a different culture, another language, poor prisons, far from their families, different food...
Portugal can not do anything about the fraudulent fund but England will do, when the parents return, after having
payed for their crime in Algarve.
Is my theory ok?
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Is your intuition usually correct?marconi wrote:My theory is that the Mirror is just finding a way to concentrate themselves on the Smith man without being sued. Although I didn't read the article, I think it is their goal.They are indirectly devaluating Jane Tanner, one of the Tapas.
How to manage it, while Carter Ruck is around the corner?
I wonder if they know what is going on at the yard and at the PJ.
Another theory: Somebody of the Yard said that there will be a possibility that the PJ could arrest people in England and that the Yard could do the same in Portugal.
My theory is that that is a game, to catch the MCanns. It is a way to force them to go to Belgravia and to confess the truth because they probably prefer to be arrested by the Met and than by the PJ, which will take them to Portugal, a different culture, another language, poor prisons, far from their families, different food...
Portugal can not do anything about the fraudulent fund but England will do, when the parents return, after having
payed for their crime in Algarve.
Is my theory ok?
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I remain optimistic. What are the chances of TWO police forces, one here in the UK and one in Portugal covering up whatever it is the McCanns have done?
I have been re-reading the rogatory statements today and time has not improved them. I was particularly interested to re-read David Payne's statement and the questioning about the phones and the phone call he made. SY have at least said they are very interested in the phone traffic in and out of PDL.
Time has not done the McCanns any favours. As each day passes this is looking more and more like a farce, the closure of the shop is I think hugely significant.
I have been re-reading the rogatory statements today and time has not improved them. I was particularly interested to re-read David Payne's statement and the questioning about the phones and the phone call he made. SY have at least said they are very interested in the phone traffic in and out of PDL.
Time has not done the McCanns any favours. As each day passes this is looking more and more like a farce, the closure of the shop is I think hugely significant.
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Daisy wrote:Is your intuition usually correct?marconi wrote:My theory is that the Mirror is just finding a way to concentrate themselves on the Smith man without being sued. Although I didn't read the article, I think it is their goal.They are indirectly devaluating Jane Tanner, one of the Tapas.
How to manage it, while Carter Ruck is around the corner?
I wonder if they know what is going on at the yard and at the PJ.
Another theory: Somebody of the Yard said that there will be a possibility that the PJ could arrest people in England and that the Yard could do the same in Portugal.
My theory is that that is a game, to catch the MCanns. It is a way to force them to go to Belgravia and to confess the truth because they probably prefer to be arrested by the Met and than by the PJ, which will take them to Portugal, a different culture, another language, poor prisons, far from their families, different food...
Portugal can not do anything about the fraudulent fund but England will do, when the parents return, after having
payed for their crime in Algarve.
Is my theory ok?
hah hah hah! Funny! That is a theory, no intuition.
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And another one..Mirror tomorrow..
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After being so quiet, here we go..
The Mirror seems to be running two stories tomorrow..
Ps Been away couple of days, Merry Christmas to you all
After being so quiet, here we go..
The Mirror seems to be running two stories tomorrow..
Ps Been away couple of days, Merry Christmas to you all
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Scotland Yard have now concluded that the key sighting of a suspect carrying a child at around 9.15pm was, in fact, a sighting of an innocent dad.
This has changed the entire timeline of the incident and has opened up crucial new lines of enquiry.
Questions will be asked as to why the relevance of the information was not recognised earlier.
While there may have been an oversight by Leicestershire Police, there are two things we should remember.
They did not have access to all the material collected during the investigation and full responsibility for the case remained with the Portuguese at that time.
In their liaison role, they may have simply forwarded the questionnaires to Portuguese police without analysing them themselves.
Even if they did consider the content, they may not have realised the relevance without access to all of the material.
The information should have been recognised as of great relevance by the Portuguese police.
I would have expected any person saying they were innocently carrying a child at around the relevant time and place to be investigated and cross-referenced with other witness accounts.
That said, in a high-profile investigation, so much information floods in that it is all too easy for a crucial item to get lost.
At that time, the main focus of the investigation centred on the interpretation of the DNA evidence which had been recently made available.
This may have led to other potential lines of enquiry being overlooked.
No matter what the explanation, the fact that this “new” witness was in the system all along illustrates why case reviews are so important.
A review of all material, by new pairs of eyes and with the benefit of hindsight, almost always identifies something which has been overlooked.
In this case, it appears to have changed the basic understanding of what may have happened on Thursday, May 3, 2007.
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This has changed the entire timeline of the incident and has opened up crucial new lines of enquiry.
Questions will be asked as to why the relevance of the information was not recognised earlier.
While there may have been an oversight by Leicestershire Police, there are two things we should remember.
They did not have access to all the material collected during the investigation and full responsibility for the case remained with the Portuguese at that time.
In their liaison role, they may have simply forwarded the questionnaires to Portuguese police without analysing them themselves.
Even if they did consider the content, they may not have realised the relevance without access to all of the material.
The information should have been recognised as of great relevance by the Portuguese police.
I would have expected any person saying they were innocently carrying a child at around the relevant time and place to be investigated and cross-referenced with other witness accounts.
That said, in a high-profile investigation, so much information floods in that it is all too easy for a crucial item to get lost.
At that time, the main focus of the investigation centred on the interpretation of the DNA evidence which had been recently made available.
This may have led to other potential lines of enquiry being overlooked.
No matter what the explanation, the fact that this “new” witness was in the system all along illustrates why case reviews are so important.
A review of all material, by new pairs of eyes and with the benefit of hindsight, almost always identifies something which has been overlooked.
In this case, it appears to have changed the basic understanding of what may have happened on Thursday, May 3, 2007.
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I hope you're right Cristobell. I find the questioning of DP over the phones quite interesting too. I wonder if he did hand the 'pay as you go' phone (that arrived whilst Kate was being questioned) over to the Officer that requested it in the interview. I wonder.Cristobell wrote:I remain optimistic. What are the chances of TWO police forces, one here in the UK and one in Portugal covering up whatever it is the McCanns have done?
I have been re-reading the rogatory statements today and time has not improved them. I was particularly interested to re-read David Payne's statement and the questioning about the phones and the phone call he made. SY have at least said they are very interested in the phone traffic in and out of PDL.
Time has not done the McCanns any favours. As each day passes this is looking more and more like a farce, the closure of the shop is I think hugely significant.
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Reading between the lines, it's the Leicester police who appear to be getting the criticism. But we'll have to wait and see.
Leicestershire Police yesterday refused to comment on the latest revelations.
A spokeswoman said: “The disappearance of Madeleine McCann is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police and it would be inappropriate for us to comment.”
A Scotland Yard spokesman said: “We are not giving a running commentary.”
A spokesman for the McCann’s last night declined to comment saying it is “a matter for Operation Grange.”
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Leicestershire Police yesterday refused to comment on the latest revelations.
A spokeswoman said: “The disappearance of Madeleine McCann is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police and it would be inappropriate for us to comment.”
A Scotland Yard spokesman said: “We are not giving a running commentary.”
A spokesman for the McCann’s last night declined to comment saying it is “a matter for Operation Grange.”
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