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Post by Guest 24.06.13 11:58

Oh yes, the one that she didn't have after all. Thank you!

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No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Italics syndrome seems to be affecting only this topic!

PeterMac, what's the significance of your cryptic comment 2007 with a line through the first zero?
I think its MBM's maybe/maybe-not-coloboma NFWTD? Good ol PeterMac smilie

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Must get the trademark right, or we might get sued.
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Post by Guest 24.06.13 12:09

Sorry PeterMac, I'm bunged up with hay fever and forgot the LOOK into my eyes campaign - as indeed have the McCanns now, they never made much of it, to be honest!

Is it true that the coloboma is not mentioned at all in the book?
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No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Oh yes, the one that she didn't have after all. Thank you!

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Blasted slow old blackBerry! Not only did I miss admins reply I was later than you replying to then NFWTD (I wasn't just parroting their reply!)

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Post by Guest 24.06.13 12:19

No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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Post by jd 24.06.13 12:27

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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You're not Mi5 are you RF!!! laughat

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Post by kitchen 24.06.13 12:30

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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It seems that I'm in Leeds - how exciting especially as I can see Edinburgh castle out of my window.
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No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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LOL if I am apparently in Westminster I'll see if I can 'get the goss' from Ms May laughat

Seriously though, is the portal map using 'McMiles'? I guess 120 miles out isn't too bad if it IS a McMile as opposed to a metric mile winkwink

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I am in Tiel in Holland, although actually I am near The Hague (about 100 km of)...
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Post by aiyoyo 24.06.13 12:34

marconi wrote:we have to thank Rebekah Brooks for having manipulate the McCanns to put pressure on Cameron. She knew Kate's book had exhausted the issue, nothing more to be told, and while the parents were putting pressure on him, she put pressure on him too, in order to put the Yard in the case. A terrible trap.


Effectively, the Mccanns have set themselves a booby trap or should I say bobby trap?
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Post by aiyoyo 24.06.13 12:39

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Italics syndrome seems to be affecting only this topic!

PeterMac, what's the significance of your cryptic comment 2007 with a line through the first zero?

Isnt it dead obvious? The "now-you -see-it, now-you-dont" Mccanns' cat & mouse game with the Public regarding the search!
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Post by Ayniia 24.06.13 13:01

ShuBob wrote:The PJ were heavily criticised for their leaks during the original investigation. Perhaps, they've learned their lesson.
The PJ denied the leaks.
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Post by Liz Eagles 24.06.13 13:33

Latest "Notes from a Potting Shedder"- 24th June 2013

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Madeleine McCann - A New Investigation?

So London's top prosecutor and her deputy visited Portugal mid April to consult with Portuguese officials about Madeleine's disappearance.  And subsequently, Theresa May has announced that Scotland Yard will be opening their own investigation.  Can we assume therefore that this has been rubberstamped by the Portuguese if Ms May has been able make this announcement?  Which is all very interesting, because British police can only investigate British suspects and the CPS can only prosecute British accused, those who are alive and kicking.  So, can we technically rule out the swarthy European masses and free range Portuguese eggs and assume that the culprit/s are British?  And will Scotland Yard, indeed ask their own dogs?


We can speculate until the cows come home, but should we exercise extreme caution?  Should we really believe the British media this time around, they normally print such pink crap, and we've been up this hopeful path before only to be let down.  It feels different this time though and I can't help but have more than a glimmer of hope for Madeleine.  The weekend papers have been surprisingly quiet and completely pink free.  It's almost like the calm before the storm.


The British authorities aided the Portuguese police and their investigation from very early on.  Google Lee Rainbow and Martin Grimes for a very interesting read.  However, if Scotland Yard do open a full investigation, will they also investigate some of their own officers?  In particular, I refer to the comments made by Mrs McCann herself in her book Madeleine...


Remember Bob Small?  He was the McCanns liaison to the British police and the van-man who set up the framing of an innocent Robert Murat, aided by (er err I carried her this way) Jane Tanner... well according to Mrs McCann on page 226, Bob Small gave Mr McCann indications of the FSS results before he was interviewed by the Portuguese police. Astonishing.  Mr McCann rang Ken Jones, head of ACPO the day after. Wonder why.  Imagine that - persons of interest having direct lines to top British brass and being spoon fed sensititve information which allowed them to keep one step ahead of the Portuguese.  Having indications of the FSS results prior to their arguido interviews gave the McCanns the ability to complete their offensive, and to their success they fled the country within days, aided and abetted by the British government.  One must assume that Goncalo Amaral was absolutely correct in his accusations of political manipulation and gross interference from the British in this criminal investigation.


And what about those officers who reportedly delivered boxes of files to the McCanns on their return to Rothley after fleeing Portugal?  Or those who informed them that their phones were being tapped?  Who supplied Gerry McCann with the top secret CEOP manuals?  Who made the visit to Portugal in an attempt to suppress certain information being released in the PJ files?  And who on earth thought it was a good idea to withhold the Gaspar statements?  This alone would have turned the investigation on its head.


This all needs looking into.  Interesting times ahead.
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Post by tasprin 24.06.13 13:39

aquila wrote:Latest "Notes from a Potting Shedder"- 24th June 2013

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Quote: "Another interesting thing has happened. For some time now, this blog has been spammed by pro comments, without fail, every single day. Sometimes there are up to 50 comments a day left. This is the reason the comments are now moderated - it's really not a problem going in daily and deleting the spam, some of it is very amusing. However, since the CPS news broke - the spam just stopped overnight. Saturday, Sunday and now Monday... 0 spam. Zilch. Nada. Wonder why".
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Post by sheila.edwards 24.06.13 13:48

TY for posting. yes many questions will have  to be answered still,They TM have always seemed a step ahead far, to well informed with results etc ! . What about that link to fund site etc. Its all been to COZY.That  CM said other day in newspaper " he was not going to comment and let investigation continue to find abductor",IMO:-  they have eighter found soothing couple,or some kind of definative evidence now to bring justice for maddy or bring her home. horay
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Post by Praiaaa 24.06.13 13:54

shocked and depressed about that stuff re the police officer giving FSS info/files to TM  did not know that - utterly sickening.
if that is the case just really hope all this will be properly unravelled and made public.
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Post by Ayniia 24.06.13 13:59

marconi wrote:I had a short sleep and I came back to my computer. I am excited, expecting Theresa May's statement, I can't sleep. I don't believe that she will say that the Met took over the investigation
because we know it already. And we know also that a prosecutor lawyer has been in Algarve in April, a proof that the investigation is already in the hands of the Met.
I hope that she will announce that the case is solved, suspects identified, etc., and that they are being interrogated. 
Can you imagine if she tells that the suspects come from Tchad?
Citing Andy Redwood, "everything is possible".
Are we expecting that announcement today? Or this week? Because I can't stop updating Google waiting for the news...

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Post by jd 24.06.13 14:06

Yes a very good post from Potting Shredder

....if Scotland Yard do open a full investigation, will they also investigate some of their own officers? And will Scotland Yard, indeed ask their own dogs?

Remember Bob Small?  He was the McCanns liaison to the British police and the van-man who set up the framing of an innocent Robert Murat, aided by (er err I carried her this way) Jane Tanner... well according to Mrs McCann on page 226, Bob Small gave Mr McCann indications of the FSS results before he was interviewed by the Portuguese police. Astonishing.  Mr McCann rang Ken Jones, head of ACPO the day after. Wonder why.  Imagine that - persons of interest having direct lines to top British brass and being spoon fed sensititve information which allowed them to keep one step ahead of the Portuguese.  Having indications of the FSS results prior to their arguido interviews gave the McCanns the ability to complete their offensive, and to their success they fled the country within days, aided and abetted by the British government.  One must assume that Goncalo Amaral was absolutely correct in his accusations of political manipulation and gross interference from the British in this criminal investigation.

And what about those officers who reportedly delivered boxes of files to the McCanns on their return to Rothley after fleeing Portugal?  Or those who informed them that their phones were being tapped?  Who supplied Gerry McCann with the top secret CEOP manuals?  Who made the visit to Portugal in an attempt to suppress certain information being released in the PJ files?  And who on earth thought it was a good idea to withhold the Gaspar statements?  This alone would have turned the investigation on its head.

The weekend papers have been surprisingly quiet and completely pink free!!! big grin

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Post by ShuBob 24.06.13 14:10

Kate McCann is well known for bending the truth. In her own book she herself admitted lying. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that she lied about Bob Small to put him in a difficult position. It also cannot be ruled out that she's broken with tradition and actually spoken the truth. I think it's wise to keep an open mind.
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Post by rainbow-fairy 24.06.13 14:25

jd wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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You're not Mi5 are you RF!!! laughat

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Post by jd 24.06.13 14:31

rainbow-fairy wrote:
jd wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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You're not Mi5 are you RF!!! laughat

LOL I could answer that jd but then I'd have to shoot you..... big grin

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Post by Praiaaa 24.06.13 14:36

Shubob - good point! Will calm down, wait and see...
Very encouraging What Potting Shed said about the disappearance of the spammers. Hope they have not been abducted...
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Post by deafoldbat 24.06.13 14:45

Praiaaa wrote:Shubob - good point! Will calm down, wait and see...
Very encouraging What Potting Shed said about the disappearance of the spammers. Hope they have not been abducted...
LOL! Unless it was in a police vehicle and with handcuffs on! laughat
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Post by rainbow-fairy 24.06.13 14:55

jd wrote:
rainbow-fairy wrote:
jd wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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You're not Mi5 are you RF!!! laughat

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Post by jeanmonroe 24.06.13 15:01

I'm still waiting to see the thousands and thousands of letters and emails the McCanns told us they have received from people that told them its alright K&G 'we all LEAVE our babies alone everynight, out of sight, when we are on foreign holidays'

The thing is, not one of those people ever had a child 'abducted' did they?
Yet according to the McS all those people left their kids in the same situtation Madeleine found herself in.
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Post by Lostfridge 24.06.13 15:12

rainbow-fairy wrote:
jd wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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You're not Mi5 are you RF!!! laughat

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It says I am in the middle of lkley moor!! West yorkshire!. Where does it get this information from?
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Lostfridge wrote:
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No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
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You're not Mi5 are you RF!!! laughat

LOL I could answer that jd but then I'd have to shoot you..... big grin

It says I am in the middle of lkley moor!! West yorkshire!. Where does it get this information from?

THE MCCANNS!
Using their phenomenally accurate distance measuring device, calibrated in either option, McMetres or McMiles!
They don't supply the device in Km 'mode' because it becomes notoriously unreliable at calculating distances in PDL.
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Post by Newintown 24.06.13 15:26

Lostfridge wrote:
rainbow-fairy wrote:
jd wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
Here's the link for anyone wanting to see where they supposedly are.
 
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You're not Mi5 are you RF!!! laughat

LOL I could answer that jd but then I'd have to shoot you..... big grin

It says I am in the middle of lkley moor!! West yorkshire!. Where does it get this information from?

It's where your internet provider is located, apparently. What a boring explanation!

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Post by jd 24.06.13 15:55

rainbow-fairy wrote:
jd wrote:
rainbow-fairy wrote:
jd wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No problem RF, I know how long it takes for messages to reach you in those remote (but hopefully not lawless) hills. According to the portal map though, you're currently in Westminster and I'm in Maidstone. I'm always glad to get away from there as it's Mike Gunnill territory.
 
Here's the link for anyone wanting to see where they supposedly are.
 
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You're not Mi5 are you RF!!! laughat

LOL I could answer that jd but then I'd have to shoot you..... big grin

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