Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

AndyB wrote:

The strange thing is that this is the photo that made me think that Jane Tanner might be bundle man:
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Perhaps she just likes purple

AndyB wrote:

Woofer wrote:Wasn`t JT seen by Jez anyway - when he first set out on his walk with the buggy - describing her as a woman dressed in purple?

Yes but that was earlier:

Jez wrote:"I left my apartment pushing my son's pram so that he could sleep. I did not have a particular direction to follow nor did I have a specific time to do this. I left the apartment and turned right. I walked via the lower street, looked to the building block where the McCann apartment was situated and saw a woman dressed in purple clothing. I referred to this woman in relation to the questions asked by Jane Tanner."
{...}
"Now I know her name, description of the clothes and photos which I have seen in the press. At that time I knew of her as a member of the group but did not know her name. I do not remember having seen her when I spoke with Gerry, but I believe I saw her when I first ventured out. She was stopped on the street in front of one of the group's apartments when I passed her down towards the exit to my apartment. I do not know if it was her apartment or not. I remember that she was wearing the colour purple."

I realise it was earlier, at about 8.15 - 8.30. Does this discount it being her ?


In JW`s 3rd statement he says " Bridget and I returned to the apartment and minutes afterward, a uniformed police officer, accompanied by a British man serving as interpreter, showed up. Later we came to know him as Robert Murat. I do not remember if he gave me his details but recently when I was cleaning a bag, I came across a card with his name and telephone number. I believe that he may have given this to me so that we could contact him in case we had any additional information to offer. The police officer asked us if we had noticed anything out of the normal and Robert Murat translated. I spoke to him of the "rasta man" and the police officer took some notes on paper. He also noted our names and passport numbers. During the days that followed, as we passed through the police cordon, we noticed Robert Murat on numerous occasions. On Friday, the 4th of May or Saturday, 5th of May 2007, at one of the police cordons, I again saw Robert Murat. He told me that they had investigated the lead of the "rasta man" but that he was a local man and that everything was okay. He thanked me for my collaboration. I never saw Robert prior to his visit to our apartment with the police officer.


JW had seen rasta man in the toilets (taking a long time) soon after he had started his walk.  RM was translating when JW told the PJ about rasta man.  RM gives JW his card so JW could contact him if he thought of any more information (?).  RM later makes a point of telling JW that rasta man was local and everything was ok with him - why? and how did RM know it was ok?

Woofer wrote:[...]


JW had seen rasta man in the toilets (taking a long time) soon after he had started his walk.  RM was translating when JW told the PJ about rasta man.  RM gives JW his card so JW could contact him if he thought of any more information (?).  RM later makes a point of telling JW that rasta man was local and everything was ok with him - why? and how did RM know it was ok?

marconi wrote:If you want something to be well done,  do it yourself and don't leave it to others.
The body was a too serious matter for Gerry to let it be carried by another person.
He had to be sure that its concealing would be perfect.
He was the one who took it away imo.

marconi wrote:If you want something to be well done,  do it yourself and don't leave it to others.
The body was a too serious matter for Gerry to let it be carried by another person.
He had to be sure that its concealing would be perfect.
He was the one who took it away imo.

tigger wrote:Marconi, on Gerry's general performance I'd say that if a thing needed to be done 'perfectly' I'd strongly advise NOT to have it done by Gerry.

Imo he has more than a touch of Delboy and when things go wrong as they did and do all the time, he blusters and lies.

margaret wrote:

tigger wrote:Marconi, on Gerry's general performance I'd say that if a thing needed to be done 'perfectly' I'd strongly advise NOT to have it done by Gerry.

Imo he has more than a touch of Delboy and when things go wrong as they did and do all the time, he blusters and lies.

He is delboy isn't he?  He thinks he's so much more important and clever but he's just a two bit chancer from a leics housing estate.

sheila.edwards wrote:he may be desperate to restart his blogs on facebook with the fund site, having deleted loads off net and all the time they spend checking etc.hope we don't get more of them trolls now this all going on ! ? bored of hacked off now. Glad were not on Facebook if going to be a mcbook now.or a Gerry book?????? next it could be the kate and Gerry show live on facebook.!

lj wrote:, but what is delboy?? Please help me out.

Del Boy is a lively, happy-go-lucky, confident character. While not always successful, his general confidence and occasional forcefulness often persuade people to believe in him. From the sixth series on, he becomes a stereotypical [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of the late 1980s, pretending to be much more wealthy than he really is, as he tries to associate with the upper classes despite being obviously [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

He is a habitual liar, particularly to women, customers, policemen and even his family and doctors. He lies even when it is against his best interests, such as when he claims to be a health freak while suffering from stomach pains, leading to his spending several days under observation in hospital rather than receiving an immediate diagnosis.

Del reckons he can speak some French, {for which read ENGLISH ! }  though nearly all the time none of his phrases make any sense in the context he uses them in (e.g. Saying "Au revoir" to say "hello" and "bonjour" to say goodbye). He also thinks he has knowledge in subjects like history, art and other academic subjects (his lack of knowledge in history is shown well in "To Hull and Back" in which he calls Albert "the finest little sailor this country has produced since [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] lost the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]".)   [Purporting theories,  constant misuse of "for Kate and I . . ." spring to mind]

Del Boy is not always keen to express his love for his family and others,  . . 

lj wrote:

margaret wrote:

tigger wrote:Marconi, on Gerry's general performance I'd say that if a thing needed to be done 'perfectly' I'd strongly advise NOT to have it done by Gerry.

Imo he has more than a touch of Delboy and when things go wrong as they did and do all the time, he blusters and lies.

He is delboy isn't he?  He thinks he's so much more important and clever but he's just a two bit chancer from a leics housing estate.

This is one of the things I like about the internet. You get a so much "richer" vocabulary (and no I don't mean OMFG etc). I used to think my english is not that bad, but everyday I find at least one word I never heard before. My kids always tease me for having the dictionary constant loaded. So yesterday I learned "publican" (no it's not one that lost the re) and joiner, but what is delboy?? Please help me out.

lj wrote:You see this forum is not about hate . . .

russiandoll wrote:Didn't Kate in her book compare herself to a lioness, referring to her protective instincts?

My immediate worry was Amelie and Sean. If this farce continued in the same vein, and we ended up being formally accused of doing something to Madeleine, people were going to start calling for the twins to be taken away from us. I could feel the panic building up inside me. Between sobs I blurted out my fears to Trisha and Eileen.
It’s hard to describe their response, but if you picture two lionesses whose young are under threat for their lives it will give you the general idea. Remembering it now actually brings a little smile to my face. Hell hath no fury like two women from Glasgow.

Trisha and Eileen, disturbed by the noise, appeared from their room. Keeping a lid on my anger for long enough to enable me to communicate clearly, I brought them up to speed. Within seconds there were three raging lionesses pacing the villa.
Recognizing the need to switch into crisis-management mode, we calmed each other down. Gerry and I made it very clear to Trisha and Eileen that if we didn’t return from the police station the next day, they should take the children out of the country as soon as possible.

PeterMac wrote:
Nothing in the book about protecting Madeleine though.   Which is understandable, all things considered.

aiyoyo wrote:
It would appear Justine Mcguiness (sp) was taken in hook line and sinker.

Asked what she now believes happened to Madeleine, McGuiness said it was highly unlikely she was kidnapped to order as some theories suggested or just walked out of the apartment herself.

PeterMac wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:
It would appear Justine Mcguiness (sp) was taken in hook line and sinker.

I think yo are right, but then look at this

Asked what she now believes happened to Madeleine, McGuiness said it was highly unlikely she was kidnapped to order as some theories suggested or just walked out of the apartment herself.

Why ? On what basis does she come to that conclusion ?. Why does she blow the "Living like a princess" story out of the water ?
Their friends, family, and spokesthings hem them in every time they speak.
The combination of McGuinness, Edgar. Philomena and Mitchell have just about denied them any wriggle room whatsoever.