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Portuguese police fully co-operating with Scotland Yard on McCann case
The Portuguese criminal investigation police today confirmed they are fully committed to co-operating with the Metropolitan Police review of the Madeleine McCann case and to re-opening the investigation if the Met come up with credible new evidence
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The Portuguese criminal investigation police today confirmed they are fully committed to co-operating with the Metropolitan Police review of the Madeleine McCann case and to re-opening the investigation if the Met come up with credible new evidence
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if the Met come up with credible new evidence
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That was always the case though.
if the Met come up with credible new evidence
That was always the case though.
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The Met police only have to not find any new evidence and Bob's your uncle...no reopening...,no conclusion. and the Mc's live happily ever after with their millions.
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The creche info is new evidence of deception. It has to be new to the Portuguese investigation, because if they knew about it back in 2007, that there was something fishy going on there, they would never have released the creche sheet lists for all to see.
The Met need to expand on that one crucial lead, then we will get the case reopened in Portugal.
The Met need to expand on that one crucial lead, then we will get the case reopened in Portugal.
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Stella wrote:The creche info is new evidence of deception. It has to be new to the Portuguese investigation, because if they knew about it back in 2007, that there was something fishy going on there, they would never have released the creche sheet lists for all to see.
The Met need to expand on that one crucial lead, then we will get the case reopened in Portugal.
They have released the creche records Stella, but the analysis on them has been held back in the released files. I wonder what conclusion they came to when looking at these then, not to release them.
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7 - Anexos 63 and 64:
Analysis of creche registers
Dated 30 April (Anexo 63) and 1 May (Anexo 64)
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I think they did not release the analysis, because of the two sheets that they did withold.
I'm betting that they didn't not even notice the handwriting with the Naylor entries all week. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
ETA, not being disrepectful to them, only that it would have taken a great deal of time to put the other pieces of the puzzle together, wiht all of the other guests.
I'm betting that they didn't not even notice the handwriting with the Naylor entries all week. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
ETA, not being disrepectful to them, only that it would have taken a great deal of time to put the other pieces of the puzzle together, wiht all of the other guests.
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The handwriting in the creche records for the days that Madeleine was signed into the child care facility at the Ocean Club resort offer many clues to suggest that the records are forgeries.
Prior to the McCanns’ holiday in Portugal in that ill-fated first week of May 2007, we seemed to have no independent records of Kate and Gerry’s handwriting to compare with the creche records.
However, two known examples of handwriting exist and both were supplied by the McCanns courtesy of their home videos.
The first example comes from the Christmas 2007 video where we see Madeleine handing Kate a present that bears a card with the text:
To Sean
Merry Christmas
Love from
Madeleine
& Amelie
Here is a still from the Christmas 2007 appeal video.
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The card on the Christmas present at Christmas 2006 and shown in the McCanns' Christmas 2007 appeal video. The video is clearly from a time that predates the fateful trip in Portugal.
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This is the word 'Madeleine' magnified from the previous picture.
The card on the Christmas present at Christmas 2006 and shown in the McCanns' Christmas 2007 appeal video. The video is clearly from a time that predates the fateful trip in Portugal.
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This is the word 'Madeleine' magnified from the previous picture.
There are four examples of the word “Madeleine” in the creche records where Madeleine was allegedly signed in and signed out. The four examples do not look like faithful copies all written by the same hand but it is worthwhile looking at them together.
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Four versions of the way Kate Healy allegedly wrote 'Madeleine' in the creche records.
Four versions of the way Kate Healy allegedly wrote 'Madeleine' in the creche records.
The other example of the name “Madeleine” comes from the Madeleine Was Here documentary made by Mentorn Media. This video was also used, in part, by Oprah Winfrey on her interview with the McCanns two years after Madeleine’s disappearance (May 2009). We catch a glimpse of Kate’s handwriting when she shows us some pictures that Madeleine drew after the family trip to Donegal in April 2007.
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A section of the picture on the wall in the McCanns' kitchen in Rothley. Kate shows us a picture that bears the text 'Madeleine - Donegal / Easter 2007'.
A section of the picture on the wall in the McCanns' kitchen in Rothley. Kate shows us a picture that bears the text 'Madeleine - Donegal / Easter 2007'.
The picture of the train on a track may have been contemporary to the trip in Donegal in April 2007. However, there is no way to reliably know the date when Kate wrote “Madeleine – Donegal / Easter 2007″ at the foot of the picture.
As the word “Madeleine” here is clearly different to the handwriting on the Christmas 2006 gift, it is a mystery as to which version of the handwriting is the natural one.
What is interesting is that the version on the kitchen wall looks more like the four versions in Praia da Luz but even that has some basic differences. Look at the lower case “a” for example. It is consistently written the same way in “Madeleine” and in “Donegal” but it is written completely different in the word “Easter”. If anything, the handwriting looks like it has been made to match the strange writing in the creche records whereas the Christmas 2006 version looks the most natural of all.
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The word 'Madeleine' magnified from the Donegal/Easter picture.
The word 'Madeleine' magnified from the Donegal/Easter picture.
While the creche records and handwriting analysis may not solve the mystery of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, it is almost certain that there is some falsification of one or more of the entries in the creche records.
A doctor’s handwriting is notoriously bad to read but in this case the writing is perfectly legible – it just lacks authenticity due to poor repeatability.
Read more about this topic in “Interesting Details From the Files” in Faked Abduction.
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The card on the Christmas present at Christmas 2006 and shown in the McCanns' Christmas 2007 appeal video. The video is clearly from a time that predates the fateful trip in Portugal.
What a stroke of luck that Kate and Gerry thought to keep this label just in case they would need it a year later in an appeal video.
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Really!
Honest to god, what is wrong with you people?
They all look the same which infact does nothing but add weight to the fact that Madeleine was in that creche. Of course you also have the nanny who confirmed she spoke to Madeleine that day.
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Honest to god, what is wrong with you people?
They all look the same which infact does nothing but add weight to the fact that Madeleine was in that creche. Of course you also have the nanny who confirmed she spoke to Madeleine that day.
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Garth wrote:Really!
Honest to god, what is wrong with you people?
They all look the same
No they don't, the A's are very different.
which infact does nothing but add weight to the fact that Madeleine was in that creche.
If they have been falsified, it proves nothing but deception.
Of course you also have the nanny who confirmed she spoke to Madeleine that day.
Oh really !! Was that the real Madeleine McCann or another Madeleine that she thought was Madeleine McCann?
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The entire holiday in Portugal is strange to say the least what we did learn about Madeleines time there is very vague infact so vague im not sure the mccanns know much more than us about their very own daughters apparent last days on earth
Im sure they have many happy memories of nights at the tapas bar were it was party central every night
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For Paulo Sargento, the thesis that Gonçalo Amaral revealed at first hand to "SP" that the blanket could have been used in a funeral ceremony at the Luz chapel "is very interesting".
And he adds: "In reality, when the McCanns went to Oprah's Show, the blanket was mentioned. At a given moment, when Oprah tells Kate that she heard her mention a blanket several times, Kate argued that a mother who misses a child always wants to know if she is comfortable, if she is warm, and added, referring to Maddie, that sometimes she asked herself if the person who had taken her would cover her up with her little blanket (but the blanket was on the bed after Maddie, supposedly, disappeared!!!).
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The 'a's look very different? VERY DIFFERENT? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Stella, this wasnt a computer generated signature, it wasn't done free hand!!!!
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Stella, this wasnt a computer generated signature, it wasn't done free hand!!!!
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Hmmm, I'm intrigued - if it wasn't computer generated, and it wasn't written free hand, I am puzzling to work out how it could possibly have been writtenGarth wrote:The 'a's look very different? VERY DIFFERENT? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Stella, this wasnt a computer generated signature, it wasn't done free hand!!!!
Next you'll be telling me this emoticon above is yellow! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Its funny re-reading this, the lengths McCannites will go to defend their idols! Those four examples of handwriting are so so different... The e's, the a's, even the M's... In fact, the first line looks like a teenage girls writing to me.
Also, has anyone noticed, on the alleged Donegal scribble, it is the only place where the lowers case a's are written that way... Where it then says 'Easter' the 'a' is again different.
Curious and curiouser!
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Yes I noticed that too RF. It reminded me of when I was at school and used to change my handwriting all the time to see which style I liked best. I'm guessing this is not the same reason for the crèche record discrepancy though!
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Oh gosh, that brings back some memories, uppatoffee *blushes* at primary school, I was so unconfident I tried copying the 'popular' girls' handwriting, loluppatoffee wrote:Yes I noticed that too RF. It reminded me of when I was at school and used to change my handwriting all the time to see which style I liked best. I'm guessing this is not the same reason for the crèche record discrepancy though! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
By the time I was 11 and at high school, I was officially 'me', tiny handwriting (used to get A- for assignments, comments said 'Would be an A+ if you provided a magnifying glass to go with it'
I loved being different and nothing changes ha ha...
No I don't think that is anywhere near the reason for the discrepancies in the creche records. There is something niggling at me there, but I can't quite put my finger on it...
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I have to agree in part with Garth. I believe all of the signatures to be the same, despite the difference in the a sometimes. All except one - the first of the group of four. This has been made by a different person, who attempts to copy the other three. The pressure and angle of the pen are completely different, this is something that cannot easily be imitated.
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Yep, I agree with the bit in bold. See my earlier post above. Its definitely a different author, I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the nannies, as IMO it looks like a teenage girls writing to me.Shibboleth wrote:I have to agree in part with Garth. I believe all of the signatures to be the same, despite the difference in the a sometimes. All except one - the first of the group of four. This has been made by a different person, who attempts to copy the other three. The pressure and angle of the pen are completely different, this is something that cannot easily be imitated.
However, I have to say I see quite a few discrepancies in the others, too, especially the picture on the wall. Madeleine, Donegal / Easter - the 'a' in Easter is totally the opposite way of writing an 'a', unlike in 'Donegal'. Just my two cents
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rainbow-fairy wrote:Yep, I agree with the bit in bold. See my earlier post above. Its definitely a different author, I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the nannies, as IMO it looks like a teenage girls writing to me.Shibboleth wrote:I have to agree in part with Garth. I believe all of the signatures to be the same, despite the difference in the a sometimes. All except one - the first of the group of four. This has been made by a different person, who attempts to copy the other three. The pressure and angle of the pen are completely different, this is something that cannot easily be imitated.
However, I have to say I see quite a few discrepancies in the others, too, especially the picture on the wall. Madeleine, Donegal / Easter - the 'a' in Easter is totally the opposite way of writing an 'a', unlike in 'Donegal'. Just my two cents
RF I have to agree with you on the Easter/Donegal picture. I think that one of them was added later and it was placed there specifically for the cameras.
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