Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

by Newintown 22.06.13 22:02

Harriet94 wrote:They don't need to rope them all in. Just a few key players. IMHO they have done that.

There may be just a few key players in the disappearance of Madeleine, but what about the Fund, if it was fraudulent or not - Metodo 3 (money launderers?) for example.

ETA: I've just remembered that when I had to fight a litigation case that was taken out against me I had to sign a solicitor's document regarding "money laundering". What that had to do with my litigation case, I have no idea, but obviously it is an obligation all solicitor's clients have to sign.

No doubt the McCanns also had to sign the same document when they took on Carter Ruck, so if it comes out in a trial that they had in fact been money laundering their "fund" through Metodo 3 and K Helligan, I wonder what the outcome of that would be?

by Harriet94 22.06.13 22:10

Is it possible that the murder of Jill Dando is somehow linked to Madeleine? Who was one of the first reporters on the scene when Jill was assassinated? Is that an internet myth or a genuine CV blag?

by Guest 22.06.13 22:18

Dando may have been working on looking into paedo rings, N.Wales childrens homes abuse etc, may have come across a ring, Jimmy Savile possibly and others.

One of Savile's friends prof Alistair Hall, cardiologist at Leeds gave speech at his funeral.

Speaking in general terms GM may know Alistair Hall, I believe Leeds Uni Hospitals and Leicester Uni Hospitals/Glenfield may have collaborated on work together.

by Pershing36 22.06.13 22:25

jd wrote:The same team of Andy Redwood, Alison Saunders, Hamish Campbell have a history of whitewashing & setting up a patsy for the government....Jill Dando/Barry George

Yes as enthusiastic as I have tried to be recently this is something I cannot ignore.

There is still apart of me that thinks this renewed effort is a way of trying to make sure Amaral doesn't have some trump card up his sleeve which expose all the dodgy dealings in the early days. They could well be using the CPS to get access to files he may have to make sure the Government/Police dirty laundry is not aired during the up coming trial.

by Newintown 22.06.13 22:28

Cherry wrote:Dando may have been working on looking into paedo rings, N.Wales childrens homes abuse etc, may have come across a ring, Jimmy Savile possibly and others.

One of Savile's friends prof Alistair Hall, cardiologist at Leeds gave speech at his funeral.

Speaking in general terms GM may know Alistair Hall, I believe Leeds Uni Hospitals and Leicester Uni Hospitals/Glenfield may have collaborated on work together.

No, she was a huge fan of Cliff Richard, in fact, it was made possible, by the BBC I think, that she met up with him on one of her programmes and he asked her to dance with him (she didn't know anything about it). She was in seventh heaven. If she had been looking into paedo rings I don't think she would have been dancing with Cliff, IMOH.

by Guest 22.06.13 22:33

Yes she was a friend of Cliff, but maybe she discovered something about him in her research.

by Guest 22.06.13 22:37

The newspapers pushing the envelope on the Savile-Sutcliffe connection this past weekend were the Sunday Sport, the Sun and others – with broadsheets staying mostly clear of the that angle. There is also the assertion by the Sunday Sport that Jimmy Savile may be connected with the murder of Crimewatch’s Jill Dando, who some believe was threatening to expose Savile’s paedophile activities nationally at the time. If there is a link here, then the media should also revisit the show trial of Barry George, the mentally ill patsy who was originally charged with Dando’s killing, but was eventually acquitted for the murder in 2008

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by Harriet94 22.06.13 22:47

Is it an internet myth that Clarence Mitchell was the first reporter on the scene following Jill Dandos murder?

by Guest 22.06.13 22:54

GM had links with Leeds General Infirmary where Alistair Hall cardiologist and JS friend worked

CM was a reporter in Leeds

by Guest 22.06.13 22:57

‘AN ANGEL OF DEATH’
Margolis also noted Clarence Mitchell’s strange association with controversial murder cases: “He was closely involved with the Fred and Rosemary West case, where a murderous couple had killed young girls and buried the bodies under their patio in Gloucester. He was one of the first reporters to arrive at Gowan Avenue, Fulham in south west London, when the immensely popular BBC TV presenter Jill Dando was shot dead in a murder many feel has never been satisfactorily explained”. Mitchell also covered in depth the arrest and conviction of mass-murderer Dennis Nilson. When Paula Yates’ partner Michael Hutchance died in mysterious circumstances in the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Sydney, Australia, in 1999, Clarence Mitchell was despatched to cover the death; more recently, in a story he worked on right up to the day he left the BBC, Clarence led coverage of the murder of the Surrey schoolgirl Millie Dowler in 2002. The case has never been solved. Mitchell has also written books on the Fred & Rosemary West and Jill Dando cases. He also reported extensively on the murder by Ian Huntley of Soham girls Jessica Chapman and Holly Wells. On 9 January this year, the Independent ran a brief article titled: ‘Remember Clarence Mitchell?’ It said: “Clarence Mitchell, formerly of the BBC and now spokesman for Madeleine McCann’s parents, has developed a nice little niche as a spin doctor of misery. First he took on Fiona MacKeown, mother of teenager Scarlet Kelling, who was murdered in Goa. Then he started representing the parents of murdered London teenager Jimmy Mizen. And today we’ve discovered that Mr Mitchell is also speaking for the wife of Jeremy Hoyland, the British jet skier who went missing off the coast of Bali last October. Mr Mitchell is not charging for his services. But his presence can hardly be reassuring - the PR equivalent of an angel of death”.
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by Newintown 22.06.13 22:58

Cherry wrote:The newspapers pushing the envelope on the Savile-Sutcliffe connection this past weekend were the Sunday Sport, the Sun and others – with broadsheets staying mostly clear of the that angle. There is also the assertion by the Sunday Sport that Jimmy Savile may be connected with the murder of Crimewatch’s Jill Dando, who some believe was threatening to expose Savile’s paedophile activities nationally at the time. If there is a link here, then the media should also revisit the show trial of Barry George, the mentally ill patsy who was originally charged with Dando’s killing, but was eventually acquitted for the murder in 2008

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How nasty a piece of work Savile was I don't think he would have gone as far as having Jill Dando shot in the head to get rid of her, I'm sure he would have thought of more subtle ways of getting her removed from the BBC.

The most obvious form of getting rid of her came from the Serbian government -

The widow of a Serbian journalist, murdered in almost identical circumstances, has come forward to say she is convinced Miss Dando was shot by a hitman acting on orders from the Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic.

Jill Dando “Murdered by Serbian Hitman”

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by Guest 22.06.13 23:04

Remember who JS had as friends, who are rumoured as being part of the elite paedo rings.

Lets not forget Diana allegedly was bumped off.

by jd 22.06.13 23:08

Cherry wrote:GM had links with Leeds General Infirmary where Alistair Hall cardiologist and JS friend worked

CM was a reporter in Leeds

Michael Wright (the one who was by mccanns side in PDL/Beach photo/Named driver) lives in Skipton, Yorkshire

by Pershing36 22.06.13 23:11

Great website and one question I simply cannot ignore.

Who is paying CM to be spokesman for TM?

by roy rovers 22.06.13 23:12

SY / CPS may be aiming to get ALL their ducks in a row before re-interviewing T9 as one confession is worth so much more than any amount of circumstantial evidence. I agree that it is mega significant that it was the CPS not SY in Portugal and that it was their head honcho.

by Guest 22.06.13 23:19

McCann case possible links to Catenian society via one of fund members

JS possible links to Catenian society

Alarm Over Secret Catholic Mason Group

HOME OFFICE ministers are becoming increasingly concerned about the secretive activities of a group of Catholic "Freemasons", the Catenians.
A special report by the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee has highlighted fears that members of the Catenian Association, which is thought to include top-ranking police officers and judges, are using their influence to pervert the course of justice.
The role of the Association came to light during a two-year investigation into Freemasonry conducted by the Committee.
Acting on the advice of the Committee, the Government has ordered the police and judiciary to set up their own databases listing membership of masonic lodges. But individuals are under no legal obligation to reveal their masonic links; and the database will not cover Catenians.
The report, Freemasonry in the Police and the Judiciary, states: "It is estimated that they [the Catenians] number around 11,500. Although this figure shows that the Catenians are far fewer in number than the Freemasons, this does not mean that similar concerns are not raised relating to their influence on the criminal justice system. Where points of principle relating to secretive societies are made in this report, they apply equally to other organisations of the same nature."
The Freemasons have attacked the Government for scrutinising their activities while not also focusing on groups like the Catenians who, like the Freemasons, are exclusively male. Catenians are hand-picked from the Catholic community and, to gain entry, applicants must be sponsored by a member.
The membership list is a closely guarded secret and new recruits are required to take an oath of allegiance to their "brothers". These oaths are made at secret ceremonies, held in hotels or golf clubs, where members wear special insignia including a Maltese cross and ceremonial collar denoting the "circle" to which they belong, as well as pendants and sashes.
The organisation, which was founded in 1908 in Manchester as the Chums Benevolent Association, has its own website. This describes the organisation, which operates worldwide, as a brotherhood that meets to "foster and develop social bonds among members and their families".
The Catenian Association is quick to quash any parallels between the activities of its members and those of Freemasons. "Like most organisations we regard information such as our list of members as privileged," added a spokesman.
"I don't like to use the word 'secretive' but many people would not answer if you asked them if they were a member. It's not like being a member of a tennis club."

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by Guest 22.06.13 23:21

jd wrote:
Cherry wrote:GM had links with Leeds General Infirmary where Alistair Hall cardiologist and JS friend worked

CM was a reporter in Leeds

Michael Wright (the one who was by mccanns side in PDL/Beach photo/Named driver) lives in Skipton, Yorkshire

Definite links between Leicester and Yorkshire

Also JS connected Knights Templar - Priory Knights send flowers when Madeleine went missing

by jd 22.06.13 23:38

Cherry wrote:
jd wrote:
Cherry wrote:GM had links with Leeds General Infirmary where Alistair Hall cardiologist and JS friend worked

CM was a reporter in Leeds

Michael Wright (the one who was by mccanns side in PDL/Beach photo/Named driver) lives in Skipton, Yorkshire

Definite links between Leicester and Yorkshire

Also JS connected Knights Templar - Priory Knights send flowers when Madeleine went missing

JS was connected to literally everyone! how ironic his show was called "jim'll fix it"!!!

I'd always found cliff richards comments on his close friend Jill Dando odd..

“Sir Cliff Richard said yesterday that Jill Dando’s murderer was exercising “freedom of choice” when he killed her, and he will be forgiven by God.

The singer, a committed Christian who was a close friend of the Crimewatch presenter, made the comments on ITV1.

Speaking on My Favourite Hymns, Sir Cliff said he would be “obliged” to forgive Barry George, 44, who is serving a life sentence for shooting Miss Dando, 37, on her doorstep in Fulham, south-west London, in April 1999. “That’s because He is an all-forgiving God. That’s tough to accept,” he said………………….

Sir Cliff added: “Part of the perfection of being human is that we have freedom of choice and Jill’s killer had the freedom to choose to kill or not to kill. Unfortunately, he exercised his freedom and he killed her.”

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Why was Cliff Richard interviewed by Jill Dando murder detectives?

Jill rarely visited her home in Gowan Avenue.

Only a handful of close friends and relatives could have known she would be there on that fateful morning.

The killer was working with an accomplice who was driving a metallic blue Range Rover.

Jill was close chums with Cliff Richard.

It’s a little known fact that holier-than-thou Cliff was quizzed by police a month after the shooting.

According to the News Letter ( Belfast):

” Pop legend Sir Cliff Richard has been interviewed by detectives seeking key clues to the identity of Jill Dando’s killer, it emerged yesterday.

Officers spoke to the star for two hours at his pounds 2 million mansion in Weybridge, Surrey, on Friday, according to reports.

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by **Tony Bennett** 22.06.13 23:39

marconi wrote:Question to Tony Bennett: After the trial is it possible to confiscate all of the assets of Tapas 9 in order to help paying the costs of the review?

Like others on here, I'm not quite sure why I've been asked this question, but...

First, which trial? The trial of whom?

In answer to your substantive question, I answer in general terms as follows: In any criminal trial, a convicted person may be required to pay (a) towards the prosecution's costs and (b) towards the victim's costs (a 'compensation order').

In drug-dealing and certain other serious criminal cases, the court can order the seizure of the convicted person's assets (exactly how much they can seize and on what basis I am not sure).

by marconi 22.06.13 23:40

Sorry, I made a mistake when I posted my question about the assets.
It was just a question to Bennett, nothing to do with what he wrote before but asking him as a lawyer.It went wrong, I should have put it separately.

by Guest 22.06.13 23:42

Yes very odd comments to make

another person who kept saying it was Barry George was Nick Ross

Nick ross recently came out with some strange views on abuse

by sallypelt 22.06.13 23:43

Cherry wrote:McCann case possible links to Catenian society via one of fund members

JS possible links to Catenian society

Alarm Over Secret Catholic Mason Group

HOME OFFICE ministers are becoming increasingly concerned about the secretive activities of a group of Catholic "Freemasons", the Catenians.
A special report by the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee has highlighted fears that members of the Catenian Association, which is thought to include top-ranking police officers and judges, are using their influence to pervert the course of justice.
The role of the Association came to light during a two-year investigation into Freemasonry conducted by the Committee.
Acting on the advice of the Committee, the Government has ordered the police and judiciary to set up their own databases listing membership of masonic lodges. But individuals are under no legal obligation to reveal their masonic links; and the database will not cover Catenians.
The report, Freemasonry in the Police and the Judiciary, states: "It is estimated that they [the Catenians] number around 11,500. Although this figure shows that the Catenians are far fewer in number than the Freemasons, this does not mean that similar concerns are not raised relating to their influence on the criminal justice system. Where points of principle relating to secretive societies are made in this report, they apply equally to other organisations of the same nature."
The Freemasons have attacked the Government for scrutinising their activities while not also focusing on groups like the Catenians who, like the Freemasons, are exclusively male. Catenians are hand-picked from the Catholic community and, to gain entry, applicants must be sponsored by a member.
The membership list is a closely guarded secret and new recruits are required to take an oath of allegiance to their "brothers". These oaths are made at secret ceremonies, held in hotels or golf clubs, where members wear special insignia including a Maltese cross and ceremonial collar denoting the "circle" to which they belong, as well as pendants and sashes.
The organisation, which was founded in 1908 in Manchester as the Chums Benevolent Association, has its own website. This describes the organisation, which operates worldwide, as a brotherhood that meets to "foster and develop social bonds among members and their families".
The Catenian Association is quick to quash any parallels between the activities of its members and those of Freemasons. "Like most organisations we regard information such as our list of members as privileged," added a spokesman.
"I don't like to use the word 'secretive' but many people would not answer if you asked them if they were a member. It's not like being a member of a tennis club."

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I wasn't aware that one of the men who took the billboard of Madeleine to Portugal (if it did go) died 3 years later in "mysterious circumstances"

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by maebee 22.06.13 23:56

jd wrote:
Cherry wrote:
jd wrote:
Cherry wrote:GM had links with Leeds General Infirmary where Alistair Hall cardiologist and JS friend worked

CM was a reporter in Leeds

Michael Wright (the one who was by mccanns side in PDL/Beach photo/Named driver) lives in Skipton, Yorkshire

Definite links between Leicester and Yorkshire

Also JS connected Knights Templar - Priory Knights send flowers when Madeleine went missing

JS was connected to literally everyone! how ironic his show was called "jim'll fix it"!!!

I'd always found cliff richards comments on his close friend Jill Dando odd..

“Sir Cliff Richard said yesterday that Jill Dando’s murderer was exercising “freedom of choice” when he killed her, and he will be forgiven by God.

The singer, a committed Christian who was a close friend of the Crimewatch presenter, made the comments on ITV1.

Speaking on My Favourite Hymns, Sir Cliff said he would be “obliged” to forgive Barry George, 44, who is serving a life sentence for shooting Miss Dando, 37, on her doorstep in Fulham, south-west London, in April 1999. “That’s because He is an all-forgiving God. That’s tough to accept,” he said………………….

Sir Cliff added: “Part of the perfection of being human is that we have freedom of choice and Jill’s killer had the freedom to choose to kill or not to kill. Unfortunately, he exercised his freedom and he killed her.”

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Why was Cliff Richard interviewed by Jill Dando murder detectives?

Jill rarely visited her home in Gowan Avenue.

Only a handful of close friends and relatives could have known she would be there on that fateful morning.

The killer was working with an accomplice who was driving a metallic blue Range Rover.

Jill was close chums with Cliff Richard.

It’s a little known fact that holier-than-thou Cliff was quizzed by police a month after the shooting.

According to the News Letter ( Belfast):

” Pop legend Sir Cliff Richard has been interviewed by detectives seeking key clues to the identity of Jill Dando’s killer, it emerged yesterday.

Officers spoke to the star for two hours at his pounds 2 million mansion in Weybridge, Surrey, on Friday, according to reports.

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Just watched a programme on BBC4 about Rock 'n Roll stars of the 50s and 60s. Jerry Lee Lewis's career took a nosedive when it emerged that he had married his 13 year old cousin. Cliff Richard said "I don't know what the fuss was about, I don't care who he married, his music was great" Very worrying.

by Guest 22.06.13 23:59

I think his fans would be shocked if they knew the truth especially with his so called 'christian' views!

by marconi 22.06.13 23:59

Tony, trial of the people who are responsible for Madeleine's disapearance and of the people who knew her fate and did no come forward telling it, allowing the UK to make terrible expenses.

by marconi 23.06.13 0:04

Some freemasons will soon become locked-up-masons.

by kitkat 23.06.13 0:34

roy rovers wrote:SY / CPS may be aiming to get ALL their ducks in a row before re-interviewing T9 as one confession is worth so much more than any amount of circumstantial evidence. I agree that it is mega significant that it was the CPS not SY in Portugal and that it was their head honcho.

Do you honestly believe that the Portuguese would have refused to re-open the case and NOT leaked info about it to the media if SY had found ANY kind of proof that implicated the family? Or that, Alison Saunders, who once headed up the CPS Organised Crime Division/specialises in trafficking, is the lead on this case all because SY hope to get "their ducks in a row before re-interviewing T9"?
wow

by marconi 23.06.13 0:43

Tony Bennett, what is the function of a prosecutor lawyer now, whilsh there are trial nor charges going on and what can we expect of such a person?

Who sent her to Portugal, in your opinion, and is it a sign that soon charges could be brought to suspects?

Did such a prosecutor lawyer appeared on the horizon because probably the Yard has already an answer?

by marconi 23.06.13 0:53

kitkat, who are you?

by Guest 23.06.13 1:05

could do with a kitkat now with my cup of tea spit coffee

Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus UPDATE CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".

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