Re: Could Maddie be in the garden of Casa Liliana?

by Zozo 23.10.12 23:12

[quote="Jean"]

candyfloss wrote:This just posted on twitter off his facebook page......

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He was very sympathetic towards Tony in his last reasonably sober posting on this topic at 18.46 on 19th October - first post on page 44.

This man needs help and I don't just mean with offers of shovels!

To my view, he was not sympathetic towards Tony in his last post here. Of course he tried to make his words look like that, but IMO they were covered by platitude formulation. As someone else has point out on this thread how he use platitude words.
I think Tony spoted that from the start, while some of us has been fooled by him for a while.

by bristow 23.10.12 23:37

I have changed my opinion now.

Dangerous man, and more than likely knows the McCanns.

ETA, he may have coincided this 'dig' in the knowledge that Ben Needhams 'dig' would be taking place, as this has been known since May.

When did SB start posting here?

by Angelique 23.10.12 23:41

bristow wrote:I have changed my opinion now.

Dangerous man, and more than likely knows the McCanns.

Absolutely - a fully paid up member IMO.

Only intention was to cause disruption and to try to intimidate TB.

by SkruffyKat 24.10.12 0:28

Châtelaine wrote:I don't "do" Facebook, but I could look at a screenshot and saw someone asking: "Who is Kate?".
ROFL, yes I did ...

There have also been a few asking 'who's Madeleine?'

by aiyoyo 24.10.12 5:13

[quote="Zozo"]

Jean wrote:
candyfloss wrote:This just posted on twitter off his facebook page......

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He was very sympathetic towards Tony in his last reasonably sober posting on this topic at 18.46 on 19th October - first post on page 44.

This man needs help and I don't just mean with offers of shovels!
To my view, he was not sympathetic towards Tony in his last post here. Of course he tried to make his words look like that, but IMO they were covered by platitude formulation. As someone else has point out on this thread how he use platitude words.
I think Tony spoted that from the start, while some of us has been fooled by him for a while.

Think about it, that *man* (SB) has managed to completely destroy his credibility totally
Whereas before some people still gave him the benefit of doubt while others suspected him to be a mad barking frog, and what did he do? He went and proved beyond a shadow of doubt that he's nut case, now no one is in doubt of it.

By his timeline and theory he was saying that Mccanns buried Maddie in Murat's garden with the knowledge of Murat, and that's what he gave the Portuguese Press to believe too.
Then, when he couldn't get any authority to take him seriously he came on here pleading help and in the process bad mouthed the PJ and TB. Effectively he has bad mouthed, if not libelled all, the four parties mentioned.

He boasts that the Portuguese Press is aiding him and is his tool to his objective but he's too dim witted to realise they are giving him enough ropes.

I read on the other site that he's now posted up on his facebook that Murat has given him permission to search Casa Liliana, and that McCann PR called him, and kate mccann has also called him.

I said before he was going to self implode but I didn't expect him to self destroy at such supersonic speed.
It's not his petite size IQ, that is going to get him into trouble with the law if he persists in the same vein, but his delusions of grandeur will, if he's not careful where he sprouts his drivels.

by **tigger** 24.10.12 8:28

Angelique wrote:
bristow wrote:I have changed my opinion now.

Dangerous man, and more than likely knows the McCanns.

Absolutely - a fully paid up member IMO.

Only intention was to cause disruption and to try to intimidate TB.

Absolutely! The man has a mission to disrupt. Not even vaguely amusing. Imo it's more than one SB hammering the keyboard to bits and with a proxy server you can pretty well be anywhere in the world you like....

by david_uk 24.10.12 8:52

...................... told you so..

by Guest 24.10.12 9:59

It has often been said about me that I give people the benefit of the doubt for far too long........

We have a few South African members here. Can any of them vouch for Stephen Birch's credentials as a property developer? I'm wondering if a fictional identity was created for this story.

By the way, I see that we had an unwelcome visitation (similar to a plague of locusts) from Mike Gunnill earlier this morning.

by aiyoyo 24.10.12 10:23

Oh well......had this forum not given him a platform his mask would not have slipped.
It's only when under challenge that he posted up drivels that enlightened us he did not have a source close to the source for his theory; effectively by his unstable bad mouth ramblings he confirmed that his theory is but conjecture from his over imaginations.
So in all, I would say something positive came out of it, in that, we now know he's either a fraud, seeking quick fame because deluded, or hired by so and so - take your pick.

Moi, I think he fits in to the *not too bright but possesses a bit of liquid seeking quick fame by tagging onto a high profile case*; but alas ........all he proves is he's out of his IQ depth.

Sadly for him, he has to resort to his facebook account as alternative platform to continue posting up his drivels.
If he'd hoped the Portuguese Press will help him he'd done himself no favour by destroying his own credibility.

by sami 24.10.12 10:30

Still no denial from Clarrie or attempt to dis-associate his "team" from these unhelpful and hurtfull allegations by Mr Birch ? Not like them to be so quiet. Gosh I hope Clarrie is ok. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by aiyoyo 24.10.12 10:33

Oh don't you worry, he's enjoying his retainer fee while he can. When necessary he will be wheeled out again.

by **PeterMac** 24.10.12 11:11

sami wrote: Gosh I hope Clarrie is ok.

So do I. I would not want him to be unavailable for the full backlash when it comes.

by pennylane 24.10.12 11:54

PeterMac wrote:
sami wrote: Gosh I hope Clarrie is ok.
So do I. I would not want him to be unavailable for the full backlash when it comes.

He may have to quit his job and drop everything... much as he once did to stand by the infamous pair. Only this time around he'll be doing his utmost to distance himself. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by bobbin 24.10.12 12:19

aiyoyo wrote:Oh don't you worry, he's enjoying his retainer fee while he can. When necessary he will be wheeled out again.

I was thinking more, he'll come 'slithering' out, all pink along the top, yellow belly beneath. Still poisonous? oh yes! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by sweetex 24.10.12 13:17

Jean wrote:It has often been said about me that I give people the benefit of the doubt for far too long........

We have a few South African members here. Can any of them vouch for Stephen Birch's credentials as a property developer? I'm wondering if a fictional identity was created for this story.

By the way, I see that we had an unwelcome visitation (similar to a plague of locusts) from Mike Gunnill earlier this morning.

I am from Johannesburg, South Africa, and "Stephen Birch" is from Cape Town South Africa, which unfortunately is miles apart. I believe there is a property developer in Cape Town with the name of Michael Birch, you can find info on that over here:

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This is said to be Stephen Birch's brother, but who knows....

by Guest 24.10.12 13:52

Thanks Sweetex. The Stephen Birch who posted here (whoever he or they were) claimed to be the brother of Michael Birch. Of course it must be true!!!

What is interesting is that, apart from his hilarious LinkedIn account in which he says that he has been acknowledged worldwide for solving the Madeleine case, I can't find a website for him; there can hardly be any businesses today which don't have one.

Should I find one, I'll post a link to it.

by SkruffyKat 24.10.12 16:04

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Apologies if this hasnt been done correctly, but should show a pdf of the facebook posts of stephen birch... Thought I'd pass it on for those who may not have facebook.

by **Nina** 24.10.12 16:34

He is near the bottom of the list from this link.....

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by Springers are FAB 24.10.12 16:38

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Apologies if this hasnt been done correctly, but should show a pdf of the facebook posts of stephen birch... Thought I'd pass it on for those who may not have facebook.

He's really lost it on fb..he seems to be revelling in having a go at Tony, why is he so obsessed with him???? Here's the latest!

"Tony Bennett breached 16 undertakings he gave the Mc Cann's not to defame them. Then he brough an application to argue that 3 of the undertaking need to be removed from the original agreement. Tony you idiot, 16-3= 13. Even if you get 3 undertakings removed from your original undertaking agreement with the Mc Cann's, you still breached your agreement - Jail food for you son....lol And this from an attorney, UK judicial system, must be is in turmoil !!!!"

by tiny 24.10.12 16:50

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by david_uk 24.10.12 16:58

Stephen Birch claims Robert Murat wants over £28,000 to dig at Casa Liliana, 22 October 2012

Stephen Birch claims Robert Murat wants over £28,000 to dig at Casa Liliana Facebook

Stephen D. Birch
21 hours ago near Cape Town, Western Cape
[Monday, 22 October at 18:23]

NOTICE TO ALL MY FACEBOOK FRIENDS - Robert Murat has given me permission to excavate his driveway at a cost. - It's been 4 months since I discovered Madeleine's remains, do I go and dig in front of the World Press. Yes or No......your comments please

Question
21 hours ago via mobile

Yes... But what does he mean at a cost.....

Stephen D. Birch
21 hours ago

R400 000 cost

Note: R400 000 = 28,859.08 GBP / 35,467.71 EUR / 46,181.91 USD [Rate valid as of: 23/10/2012, Source: Expedia]

Update:

Birch claims the McCanns want the 'dig to occur' Facebook

Stephen D. Birch
3 hours ago near Cape Town, Western Cape
[Tuesday, 23 October at 16:57]

Just got off the phone with the Mc Cann's Pr manager who telephoned me, they want the dig to occur............

Stephen D. Birch
3 hours ago near Cape Town, Western Cape
[Tuesday, 23 October at 17:21]

Cannot believe it, I just got a call from Kate, I am shocked...........wow

by Guest 24.10.12 17:33

Nina wrote:He is near the bottom of the list from this link.....

[url=http://za.linkedin.com/pub/dir/+/Birch/za-5852-Cape-Town-Area,-South-Africa

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Thanks for that Nina but this is just the LinkedIn site again with the claim that he has solved the mystery of Madeleine. It seems definite that he doesn't have a website of his own which to my mind makes it doubtful that he is who he claims to be.

I'm not sure if they'll be getting out the best china at Rothley Towers in view of his most unhelpful claim that Madeleine is dead.

by sami 24.10.12 17:49

[quote="Jean"]

Nina wrote:He is near the bottom of the list from this link.....

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Thanks for that Nina but this is just the LinkedIn site again with the claim that he has solved the mystery of Madeleine. It seems definite that he doesn't have a website of his own which to my mind makes it doubtful that he is who he claims to be.

I'm not sure if they'll be getting out the best china at Rothley Towers in view of his most unhelpful claim that Madeleine is dead.

That is the point though Jean. He has used the "d" word about Madeleine and also stated the McCanns have asked him to dig - they must also think she is "d" too. Where are the denials from the McCann spokesperson, where are Carter Ruck, other than in Court today annoying Tony Bennett. Thats what is strange about this, for me.

by **Nina** 24.10.12 17:55

[quote="sami"]

Jean wrote:
Nina wrote:He is near the bottom of the list from this link.....

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Thanks for that Nina but this is just the LinkedIn site again with the claim that he has solved the mystery of Madeleine. It seems definite that he doesn't have a website of his own which to my mind makes it doubtful that he is who he claims to be.

I'm not sure if they'll be getting out the best china at Rothley Towers in view of his most unhelpful claim that Madeleine is dead.

That is the point though Jean. He has used the "d" word about Madeleine and also stated the McCanns have asked him to dig - they must also think she is "d" too. Where are the denials from the McCann spokesperson, where are Carter Ruck, other than in Court today annoying Tony Bennett. Thats what is strange about this, for me.

Hi Jean sorry about the link not been useful.
Hi Sami, has SB ever said how the body of Madeleine got there and who was involved. he states the grave is in the property of RM's Mum, but has he ever actually said how the body got there? I am sure that I have read he did say by whom, but will not post.

by Guest 24.10.12 18:08

I don't think he's ever named any names.

Here's a reminder of his radio interview from last month when he did at least appear to be sober!

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I don't believe for a moment that anyone from Team McCann has phoned him. I think that the first that Carter-Ruck hear of his claims is when they read them here!

by **Nina** 24.10.12 18:21

Jean wrote:I don't think he's ever named any names.

Here's a reminder of his radio interview from last month when he did at least appear to be sober!

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I don't believe for a moment that anyone from Team McCann has phoned him. I think that the first that Carter-Ruck hear of his claims is when they read them here!

He did when he first came on the forum, but the thread has changed I think now.

by Ciawoman 24.10.12 18:31

I don't think SB has named anyone, the only hint he give was " who had a sore wrist?". He states that he doesn't want to be sued by then makes wild statements.

by **Nina** 24.10.12 18:36

Ciawoman wrote:I don't think SB has named anyone, the only hint he give was " who had a sore wrist?". He states that he doesn't want to be sued by then makes wild statements.

That's the one Ciawoman and it was worked out who did have the sore wrist. Anyway he has lost all credibility in my opinion and the way he attacked GA and TB is deplorable, so good riddance to him. I am ashamed to admit that I did believe him, but then I believed the McCanns and sent money wtf

by Ciawoman 24.10.12 18:47

Nina wrote:
Ciawoman wrote:I don't think SB has named anyone, the only hint he give was " who had a sore wrist?". He states that he doesn't want to be sued by then makes wild statements.

That's the one Ciawoman and it was worked out who did have the sore wrist. Anyway he has lost all credibility in my opinion and the way he attacked GA and TB is deplorable, so good riddance to him. I am ashamed to admit that I did believe him, but then I believed the McCanns and sent money

So did I believe him, part of me just wanted him to be right and this case finally solved. I tried to ignore the evidence stacked against his theory and hoped he knew something that hasn't been made public, but his rantings are just to much.

Who did have a sore wrist?