Could Maddie be in the garden of Casa Liliana?

bobbin wrote:

LG1968 wrote:

bobbin wrote:

Stephen Birch wrote:candy , I am in a position, and will demand that the former head of the Madeleine Mc Cann investigation, support my campaign to dig up the Murat driveway. I "WILL" do it through the Portuguese Press, who support my efforts to recover Madeleine's remains.

If Mr Amaral does not support the excavation of the Murat driveway, Portuguese people and the World, are going to ask "Why not support the dig ?"

Regards

Stephen D. Birch

Dear Mr. Screaming D. Burk, are you deliberately spelling people's names wrongly in order to keep prodding the decent people on this endlessly going no-where thread of yours.
I am beginning to think that you are here to push the Philomena/McCann story of 'planted DNA' in order to try to give substance to the McCann claim that the PJ were inept, are corrupt, attempted to 'fix' Kate up, and that you are set on attempting to blacken the honourable name of Dr. Goncalo Amaral, the main and feared threat to the McCanns.
Being challenged by him, they are unable to pass their version of events off as an abduction, especially as there is not the slightest bit of proof that that may have been the case. It is only their claim, supported by nothing other than their own word, rather like your claims supported by nothing other than your words...i.e. baseless.
Your constant twisting and turning, with failure to produce, seems to be to get the people on this forum to accept the above.
Where else do you post, or is this your only (paid?) preoccupation and how many people do you hope to persuade to change their reasoned thinking and analysis of facts, to a story that would suit the McCanns.
Clearly the McCanns would wish the anti-McCanns to just go away, and not challenge their 'pie in the sky' tales that have left them squirming and backfilling to try to make things up to fit the quandary in which they find themselves.
Perhaps the work you do, raising the so called millions that you have to spend on breaking into elderly lady's property and making allegations against them, and all the official police connected with the area of PdL, comes from a source that you are not prepared to divulge.
It is interesting to watch WUMs for what they say, how they operate, what they are trying to cover up, distract our attention from, or persuade us to do, because that may point back to the fears of the originator or his bosses.
I await with impatience your being banned from this forum and waiting to see how soon you re-appear in another guise, all innocent at first, but sooner or later trying the same old, same old tricks again.

A lot of what you have said sums up what I was thinking. I was trying to be very polite but there is no real way of being polite to someone who seems to be deliberately using silly spellings to be rude to someone else. And its clear that Mr Birch has no answer to what I asked him about his only spelling that name wrong and nothing else. How could he have? Its just very rude of him to do it in the first place and then to ignore my question to him about it. We can all see he is online but refusing to answer.

Agreed, deliberate silly spellings to be rude.
It is also interesting how his spoutings were exclusively that Madeleine was buried on 3rd May, in the evening when the alarm was raised.
This prohibits the later findings of the dogs, the fearsome, completely trustworthy, incapable of lying, cadaver and blood dogs and their indications of 'death' that Gerry and Kate have nearly broken their necks to dismiss.
For a start the McCanns did not respond naturally on the 'markings' and seek to know if it indeed might mean that Madeleine had died.
They immediately dismissed the findings by claiming dirty nappies, rotting meat etc. and sought then to find proof that the dogs are unreliable.
This of course focused on a case which later proved that the dogs are 'absolutely reliable', another Gerry McCann own goal.
The McCanns have not challenged the Murat garden crap because they know she is not there.
Even if she was, the perpetrators would by now have had her removed.
Moreover, how could it be proved who had put her there, it could have been anyone, thereby Birch's theory letting the McCanns off the hook.
It is telling how the siblings' nappies were mentioned. As if the PJ and forensics would not be able to identify the siblings DNA in the nappies.
Then the rotting meat. No, cadaver dogs find cadavers, not someone's filthy fridge contents.
Next, what sort of family allows meat to go so rotten in their villas/holiday homes.
It's not as though the places are so large that a bag of meat could have been left in an out-house or on a garage shelf or something.
The withdrawn 'fridge' reference from Gerry's blog is notable by its removal.
Goncalo Amaral's reference to signs of 'thawing' liquid/tissue are notable.
The boot of the car being left open to get rid of bad smells is notable.
The many visits to the tips when, as a poster said earlier, bins are nearby. Why would one not use the locally placed bins instead of carrying rotting meat that could leak into the boot of a hired car, all the way to a tip that was not close to the house.
With regard to Mr. Birch trying to include denigrating reference to Goncalo Amaral by blackening him through the Cipriano case, I am minded of the fact that in the Cipriano case the body had been cut up, by her own mother and uncle, and am of course, saddened to see that it is possible for close family to be capable of doing such a thing.

tigger wrote:

bobbin wrote:

LG1968 wrote:

bobbin wrote:

Stephen Birch wrote:candy , I am in a position, and will demand that the former head of the Madeleine Mc Cann investigation, support my campaign to dig up the Murat driveway. I "WILL" do it through the Portuguese Press, who support my efforts to recover Madeleine's remains.

If Mr Amaral does not support the excavation of the Murat driveway, Portuguese people and the World, are going to ask "Why not support the dig ?"

Regards

Stephen D. Birch

Dear Mr. Screaming D. Burk, are you deliberately spelling people's names wrongly in order to keep prodding the decent people on this endlessly going no-where thread of yours.
I am beginning to think that you are here to push the Philomena/McCann story of 'planted DNA' in order to try to give substance to the McCann claim that the PJ were inept, are corrupt, attempted to 'fix' Kate up, and that you are set on attempting to blacken the honourable name of Dr. Goncalo Amaral, the main and feared threat to the McCanns.
Being challenged by him, they are unable to pass their version of events off as an abduction, especially as there is not the slightest bit of proof that that may have been the case. It is only their claim, supported by nothing other than their own word, rather like your claims supported by nothing other than your words...i.e. baseless.
Your constant twisting and turning, with failure to produce, seems to be to get the people on this forum to accept the above.
Where else do you post, or is this your only (paid?) preoccupation and how many people do you hope to persuade to change their reasoned thinking and analysis of facts, to a story that would suit the McCanns.
Clearly the McCanns would wish the anti-McCanns to just go away, and not challenge their 'pie in the sky' tales that have left them squirming and backfilling to try to make things up to fit the quandary in which they find themselves.
Perhaps the work you do, raising the so called millions that you have to spend on breaking into elderly lady's property and making allegations against them, and all the official police connected with the area of PdL, comes from a source that you are not prepared to divulge.
It is interesting to watch WUMs for what they say, how they operate, what they are trying to cover up, distract our attention from, or persuade us to do, because that may point back to the fears of the originator or his bosses.
I await with impatience your being banned from this forum and waiting to see how soon you re-appear in another guise, all innocent at first, but sooner or later trying the same old, same old tricks again.

A lot of what you have said sums up what I was thinking. I was trying to be very polite but there is no real way of being polite to someone who seems to be deliberately using silly spellings to be rude to someone else. And its clear that Mr Birch has no answer to what I asked him about his only spelling that name wrong and nothing else. How could he have? Its just very rude of him to do it in the first place and then to ignore my question to him about it. We can all see he is online but refusing to answer.

Agreed, deliberate silly spellings to be rude.
It is also interesting how his spoutings were exclusively that Madeleine was buried on 3rd May, in the evening when the alarm was raised.
This prohibits the later findings of the dogs, the fearsome, completely trustworthy, incapable of lying, cadaver and blood dogs and their indications of 'death' that Gerry and Kate have nearly broken their necks to dismiss.
For a start the McCanns did not respond naturally on the 'markings' and seek to know if it indeed might mean that Madeleine had died.
They immediately dismissed the findings by claiming dirty nappies, rotting meat etc. and sought then to find proof that the dogs are unreliable.
This of course focused on a case which later proved that the dogs are 'absolutely reliable', another Gerry McCann own goal.
The McCanns have not challenged the Murat garden crap because they know she is not there.
Even if she was, the perpetrators would by now have had her removed.
Moreover, how could it be proved who had put her there, it could have been anyone, thereby Birch's theory letting the McCanns off the hook.
It is telling how the siblings' nappies were mentioned. As if the PJ and forensics would not be able to identify the siblings DNA in the nappies.
Then the rotting meat. No, cadaver dogs find cadavers, not someone's filthy fridge contents.
Next, what sort of family allows meat to go so rotten in their villas/holiday homes.
It's not as though the places are so large that a bag of meat could have been left in an out-house or on a garage shelf or something.
The withdrawn 'fridge' reference from Gerry's blog is notable by its removal.
Goncalo Amaral's reference to signs of 'thawing' liquid/tissue are notable.
The boot of the car being left open to get rid of bad smells is notable.
The many visits to the tips when, as a poster said earlier, bins are nearby. Why would one not use the locally placed bins instead of carrying rotting meat that could leak into the boot of a hired car, all the way to a tip that was not close to the house.
With regard to Mr. Birch trying to include denigrating reference to Goncalo Amaral by blackening him through the Cipriano case, I am minded of the fact that in the Cipriano case the body had been cut up, by her own mother and uncle, and am of course, saddened to see that it is possible for close family to be capable of doing such a thing.

Thank you for the voice of reason and logic Bobbin. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

The unprecedented move follows a landmark diplomatic ­operation between Greece and Britain. And the dig is unique because British officers have been allowed to seal off part of a foreign country and treat it as a crime scene. At the request of Athens’ most senior police chiefs, Home Office experts will use sonar and 3D equipment to scan the ground for bones.

Cadaver dogs trained to search out human remains will also form part of the hunt.

A forensic anthropologist and archaeologist from a UK university are involved in the operation.

The developments on Kos follow our investigation in May that revealed where little Ben may have been buried.

We also told how the mound was formed with tons of earth being dumped by JCB digger driver Konstantinos Barkas and other builders in an overgrown field next to the house.

Jean wrote:I'm still trying to get my head round why SB wants Senhor Amaral - who in his opinion is a washed-out drunk - to support his campaign.

ShuBob wrote:Perhaps, he's of the view that one has to be a washed-out drunk to take him seriously.

bobbin wrote:

ShuBob wrote:Perhaps, he's of the view that one has to be a washed-out drunk to take him seriously.

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I thought want had turned into ...i demand,more faces than a town hall clock springs to mind,call him a wife beater,corrupt,a drunkard in the gutter,then ask him for a favour [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ...because it will be good for Amaral but then he will be f****D if they do dig [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

aquila wrote:Please forgive me but after the last few posts deriding Mr. Birch and the requests from several other members to boot him, has anything changed? Will he be invited to post any old thing and then have a 'snigger session' on his posts? Will he be allowed to continue for the fun factor as and when it suits those who allow and read his posts? It's not clear where the boundaries are.

His posts are outrageous nonsense to me but others think his views are worth consideration.

My not so humble opinion.

Lady-Heather wrote:Here's a question for Mr Birch which I very much hope he will answer. His answer, or lack of will be the deciding factor for me whether I click to read this thread again.

What made you focus on the Murat driveway? Why single out that location rather than the McCann's villa, the local tip, the Rocha Negra, or one of the areas identified by Pat Brown?

Just wondering.

Woofer wrote:Sami - interesting point.

Well, none of my questions have been answered by SB.

What I did notice earlier today was that SB was showing as being online but his blue bubble wasn`t showing in SA - whether this was just a fault in the prgramme, not sure. There were other `green bubble guests` showing up in SA. All rather intriguing.

sami wrote:

Woofer wrote:Sami - interesting point.

Well, none of my questions have been answered by SB.

What I did notice earlier today was that SB was showing as being online but his blue bubble wasn`t showing in SA - whether this was just a fault in the prgramme, not sure. There were other `green bubble guests` showing up in SA. All rather intriguing.

Hope we have not burst his bubble [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Stephen Birch wrote:Tony can you email me at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Many thx

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Stephen Birch wrote:Tony can you email me at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Many thx

I've passed on your message to Tony as he doesn't read this thread anymore and he has declined your request.