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Post by bristow 16.10.12 21:39

Stephen Birch wrote: can this Forum please indulge me-

Can you please indulge the forum too and explain what you think about the blood and cadaver dogs, Eddie and Keeler?

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Post by Guest 16.10.12 21:43

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Stephen Birch wrote:If you read this article, read what Carter Ruck says to crime correspondent David Lohr--- I have the email in my possession.

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I AM GOING TO ASK MEMBERS OF THE FORUM ONCE MORE -WHY WOULD AMARAL NOT CALL FOR THE DIG ????


Why are you shouting ? I would ask again, why would he, why should he ? Perhaps he actually knows what happened, albeit never had a chance to prove it.

And again, why have you not contacted the missing childs parents.

It's not up to Mr Amaral to call for a dig, he is a civilian now and retired. Unless you prove you have actual evidence, then you are not going to persuade the Attorney General to re-open the case. I'm sure everyone would like this settled once and for all, maybe, if you keep shouting and lobbying they may get so fed up they will dig if only to shut you up[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Post by Stephen Birch 16.10.12 21:43

TO THE FORUM

If you say the body of Madeleine Mc Cann was transported in a motorvehicle, or the body was wrapped in a shower curtain, or the body was put in a tennis bag, you "The Forum" then discredit "The Smith" sighting !!!!

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Post by Guest 16.10.12 21:45

Stephen Birch wrote:TO THE FORUM

If you say the body of Madeleine Mc Cann was transported in a motorvehicle, or the body was wrapped in a shower curtain, or the body was put in a tennis bag, you "The Forum" then discredit "The Smith" sighting !!!!

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stephen D. Birch

So do you!
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Post by sami 16.10.12 21:45

Stephen Birch wrote:TO THE FORUM

If you say the body of Madeleine Mc Cann was transported in a motorvehicle, or the body was wrapped in a shower curtain, or the body was put in a tennis bag, you "The Forum" then discredit "The Smith" sighting !!!!

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stephen D. Birch



How so ?
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Post by Stephen Birch 16.10.12 21:46

Amaral's hanging on a lifeline drowning in a 1.2 million pound lawsuit. He does not have to be a policeman, to say to the press, he wants the excavation to occur.

Surely if Madeleine is where I say she is buried, Amaral stands to win the lawsuit ?

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Post by Guest 16.10.12 21:46

Hear, hear ...!
Here goes his timeline.

ETA Sorry, this was in reference to Candyfloss.
This thread goes fast at the moment ....
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Post by sami 16.10.12 21:51

Stephen Birch wrote:Amaral's hanging on a lifeline drowning in a 1.2 million pound lawsuit. He does not have to be a policeman, to say to the press, he wants the excavation to occur.

Surely if Madeleine is where I say she is buried, Amaral stands to win the lawsuit ?



Do you think he is mad ? You think he should tell the press that he considers Madeleine is buried in Murats garden and it should be dug up. Surely one 1.2 million pound lawsuit is enough for one man ? Why would Murat not sue him for making such a suggestion to the press ?
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 21:51

So you don't believe the Smith sighting then Mr Birch??
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 21:53

Stephen Birch wrote:Amaral's hanging on a lifeline drowning in a 1.2 million pound lawsuit. He does not have to be a policeman, to say to the press, he wants the excavation to occur.

Surely if Madeleine is where I say she is buried, Amaral stands to win the lawsuit ?
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Good gracious. Let's try and level this. You accuse Dr. Amaral of beating the lights out of a murderess mother to get her convicted. You accuse him of planting cadaver scent to get the McCanns convicted. You slur his reputation by adding that he's a drunken sod. And then you want to save him in this ridiculous lawsuit with the McCanns and make him win the battle..

I'm known by my family and friends, and possibly also by posters, as being level-headed.

You're losing me ............
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Post by Stephen Birch 16.10.12 21:54

I plead my 5th ammendment on the Smith sighting until after the excavation.............

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Post by Stephen Birch 16.10.12 21:57

100% correct Chatelaine - and one of the reasons (not the only reason) I investigated this case. To help Amaral..........

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Post by uppatoffee 16.10.12 21:59

Kate McCann also pleaded the 5th Ammendment. Didn't do much to allay suspicions about what she knew or to convince people of her innocence.
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Post by Stephen Birch 16.10.12 22:02

One other thing, I said, it is my opinion, at this present moment, that Dr Amaral has knowledge that the DNA was planted, in the Mc Cann hire vehicle. I have never once said he himself planted the DNA evidence.

I also reserve the right to change my opinion of Dr Amaral as this case developes , and more evidence comes to light.My opinion can change for the better or the worse.

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Post by Zozo 16.10.12 22:04

I think this discussion of DNA planting is just creating more distraction than it should.

My proposition is this:
Has it been any other known cases where the DNA was planted to cover up or to frame someone?
If anyone knows about that case can tell us about that or just we are hearing this DNA planting for the first time on Madeleine case?

In case there has been any other cases where the DNA was planted, I suggested that the Admin or Mods or a member who knows a such case, to create a new thread just to discuss that, and see IF it is feasible for the Madeleine case.

SB himself should tell us if he knows any other case where a DNA was planted and gives us details how it was done.
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:08

Stephen Birch wrote:One other thing, I said, it is my opinion, at this present moment, that Dr Amaral has knowledge that the DNA was planted, in the Mc Cann hire vehicle. I have never once said he himself planted the DNA evidence.

I also reserve the right to change my opinion of Dr Amaral as this case developes , and more evidence comes to light.My opinion can change for the better or the worse.

I'm afraid you did Mr Birch, the post you made is saved and you directly accused him.
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Post by Stephen Birch 16.10.12 22:08

CAN THIS FORUM TELL ME ON WHAT GROUNDS DR GONCARLO AMARAL WAS REMOVED FROM THE MADELEINE Mc CANN CASE BY THE PORTUGUESE GOVERNMENT ????

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Post by bristow 16.10.12 22:18

Stephen Birch wrote:CAN THIS FORUM TELL ME ON WHAT GROUNDS DR GONCARLO AMARAL WAS REMOVED FROM THE MADELEINE Mc CANN CASE BY THE PORTUGUESE GOVERNMENT ????
Why are you shouting?
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:20

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Stephen Birch wrote:One other thing, I said, it is my opinion, at this present moment, that Dr Amaral has knowledge that the DNA was planted, in the Mc Cann hire vehicle. I have never once said he himself planted the DNA evidence.

I also reserve the right to change my opinion of Dr Amaral as this case developes , and more evidence comes to light.My opinion can change for the better or the worse.

I'm afraid you did Mr Birch, the post you made is saved and you directly accused him.
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I have a screenshot from the cesspit, Candyfloss.
And he is SCREAMING again :-(
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Post by saltnpepper 16.10.12 22:25

It took the a British dog to find evidence of a cadaver in the hire car & a british dog to find a trace of dna...just think how minute the sample you alledge was planted...its possible a sweep would not of had a sample to test,very poor planting technique
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:34

saltnpepper wrote:It took the a British dog to find evidence of a cadaver in the hire car & a british dog to find a trace of dna...just think how minute the sample you alledge was planted...its possible a sweep would not of had a sample to test,very poor planting technique
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Post by isar 16.10.12 22:35

Hi Stephen,

I've been reading some of your posts re. your trip to PT and your theories (albeit not all) can I still ask you a question pertaining your activities?
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:43

isar wrote:Hi Stephen,

I've been reading some of your posts re. your trip to PT and your theories (albeit not all) can I still ask you a question pertaining your activities?
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It looks like he went off line 20 minutes ago ...
What would have been your question, if I may ask?
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:45

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isar wrote:Hi Stephen,

I've been reading some of your posts re. your trip to PT and your theories (albeit not all) can I still ask you a question pertaining your activities?
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It looks like he went off line 20 minutes ago ...
What would have been your question, if I may ask?

He's still here.
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Post by Angelique 16.10.12 22:46

Stephen Birch wrote:Amaral's hanging on a lifeline drowning in a 1.2 million pound lawsuit. He does not have to be a policeman, to say to the press, he wants the excavation to occur.

Surely if Madeleine is where I say she is buried, Amaral stands to win the lawsuit ?

I think this together with his post which was deleted, confirms exactly who SB is working for and what his/their agenda is.

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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:49

candyfloss wrote:
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isar wrote:Hi Stephen,

I've been reading some of your posts re. your trip to PT and your theories (albeit not all) can I still ask you a question pertaining your activities?
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It looks like he went off line 20 minutes ago ...
What would have been your question, if I may ask?

He's still here.
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Ah. Hi Candy :-)
"Last visit: Today at 11:21 pm" ... means he's gone invisible for us mortals? spin

Jeez. I don't know what to think about this/him anymore ...
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Post by isar 16.10.12 22:52

Hello Châtelaine,

thanks for responding.

Stephen went to PT - that's a given, non?

He said he and his pals went to Luz, cased the joint and went into Jenny's garden at night on a number of occasions with his penetration tool - am I right so far?

That obviously constitutes trespass or the PT equivalent of trespass - therefore he and his pals. deliberately (or so it seems) commited a criminal act/acts.

Images of penetration tool (if I read this right) made Stephen & crew believe, a human body (or remains thereof) was buried underneath the tarmac driveway/path etc. in the garden.

Am I recalling this correctly so far?
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:54

isar wrote:Hello Châtelaine,

thanks for responding.

Stephen went to PT - that's a given, non?

He said he and his pals went to Luz, cased the joint and went into Jenny's garden at night on a number of occasions with his penetration tool - am I right so far?

That obviously constitutes trespass or the PT equivalent of trespass - therefore he and his pals. deliberately (or so it seems) commited a criminal act/acts.

Images of penetration tool (if I read this right) made Stephen & crew believe, a human body (or remains thereof) was buried underneath the tarmac driveway/path etc. in the garden.

Am I recalling this correctly so far?
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:57

Châtelaine wrote:
"Last visit: Today at 11:21 pm" ... means he's gone invisible for us mortals? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Jeez. I don't know what to think about this/him anymore ...

Look at the Who's Online column on the portal page. As at nearly 23.00 BST he's online.
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Post by Guest 16.10.12 22:59

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Châtelaine wrote:
"Last visit: Today at 11:21 pm" ... means he's gone invisible for us mortals? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Jeez. I don't know what to think about this/him anymore ...

Look at the Who's Online column on the portal page. As at nearly 23.00 BST he's online.
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OK. Thanks.
I checked via members and "last visit", which doesn't seem to be identical then.

Good night to you et al ... zzzzz ... à demain :-)
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