Missing People...

by missbeetle 29.07.14 20:57

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 %3Ca%20href=

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 I_zpsd3acbab4

(photograph snipped from Pamalam, with thanks)

Here's Uncle John with some ladies (Scottish Widow to the right?) for the relaunch of Missing People...

- on the 25th May 2007, International Missing Children's Day.

Not only has he seemingly plucked the i (eye) out of missing, to me it looks like...

...a kneeling custard yellow communicant.

by tasprin 29.07.14 21:29

missbeetle wrote:
(photograph snipped from Pamalam, with thanks)

Here's Uncle John with some ladies (Scottish Widow to the right?) for the relaunch of Missing People...

- on the 25th May 2007, International Missing Children's Day.

Not only has he seemingly plucked the i (eye) out of missing, to me it looks like...

...a kneeling custard yellow communicant.

Yes that's right - Amanda Lamb, 'Scottish Widow', TV presenter and ambassador for Missing People

by Guest 29.07.14 22:10

missbeetle wrote:
(photograph snipped from Pamalam, with thanks)

Here's Uncle John with some ladies (Scottish Widow to the right?) for the relaunch of Missing People...

- on the 25th May 2007, International Missing Children's Day.

Not only has he seemingly plucked the i (eye) out of missing, to me it looks like...

...a kneeling custard yellow communicant.

@missbeetle - the colour yellow has certain connations in freemasonary doesn't it:-

cowadice
treachary, traitor
jelousy
infamy

http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/apr02/include/colour_symbolism_in_freemasonry.htm

Your comment reminds me of the 'yellow toast' comment on Cristobel's blog:-

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t9349-comment-left-on-cristobell-s-blog

What do you mean by kneeling?

by j.rob 29.07.14 22:11

tasprin wrote:
zodiac wrote:
tasprin wrote:PACT and Missing People are joined at the hip.
Clarence Mitchell is PACT's press officer:
PACT
News & Media
We have many resources for press on this site, but if you have any specific questions, please get in touch with our Press Officer:
Clarence Mitchell
Burson-Marsteller UK
Level 6 South
Central Saint Giles
1 St Giles High Street
London
WC2H 8AG

tasprin,

I googled PACT & Catherine Meyer & Missing People Charity. reading Matthew Steeples. How can this happen?

They were all on board so incredibly quickly after Madeleine's disappearance - Sir Christopher Meyer (PCC) within 48 hours, Catherine Meyer (PACT), Missing People, NCMEC, ICMEC, Cherie Blair (who in 2007 was on the PACT board), Clarence Mitchell MMU (late May), Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Milliband, Jim Gamble (CEOP), Control Risks, even the UK security services.

God how pathetic. Look how they all jumped on the bandwagon.

Hopefully all the wheels are pretty much off by now..

by missbeetle 29.07.14 22:47

Hi BlackCatBoogie -

I haven't read up that much on Freemasonry colours and symbols -

...I've always associated yellow with cowardice, isn't there a children's rhyme, 'Cowardy Custard'?

Freemasonry and the Churches - men in costumes... Not my cup of tea.

I'm fascinated by the outfits worn by the characters in this mysterious story -

- purely from a housewife's sharp eye honed on Hello magazines and National Geographics.

Your Comment-on-Christobell's-blog thread I've found really informative -

- it's certainly influenced my ideas and interpretations of this case.

Kneeling? Like one does in church, to receive communion. Or to beg...

by missbeetle 29.07.14 22:50

j.rob wrote:
tasprin wrote:
zodiac wrote:
tasprin wrote:PACT and Missing People are joined at the hip.
Clarence Mitchell is PACT's press officer:
PACT
News & Media
We have many resources for press on this site, but if you have any specific questions, please get in touch with our Press Officer:
Clarence Mitchell
Burson-Marsteller UK
Level 6 South
Central Saint Giles
1 St Giles High Street
London
WC2H 8AG

tasprin,

I googled PACT & Catherine Meyer & Missing People Charity. reading Matthew Steeples. How can this happen?

They were all on board so incredibly quickly after Madeleine's disappearance - Sir Christopher Meyer (PCC) within 48 hours, Catherine Meyer (PACT), Missing People, NCMEC, ICMEC, Cherie Blair (who in 2007 was on the PACT board), Clarence Mitchell MMU (late May), Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Milliband, Jim Gamble (CEOP), Control Risks, even the UK security services.
God how pathetic. Look how they all jumped on the bandwagon.

Hopefully all the wheels are pretty much off by now..

Jumped on the bandwagon?

Their timing was impeccable.

by Guest 30.07.14 8:48

missbeetle wrote:
(photograph snipped from Pamalam, with thanks)

Is that Sue Cook - ex Crimewatch - immediately to his right?

I probably (by which I mean definitely) shouldn't say this, but stick the cheapest shoulder length nylon wig you can find on JMc, and you've got a "Maddie".

by Nelly6969 30.07.14 9:06

I probably (by which I mean definitely) shouldn't say this, but stick the cheapest shoulder length nylon wig you can find on JMc, and you've got a "Maddie".

I couldn't agree more Clay, the similarity is uncanny

by missbeetle 30.07.14 9:07

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 Keith_zps9775ddd0

Asking for the Cardinal's number?

From Aunty Phil (reported by the BBC, 9th May 2007) :

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 %3Ca%20href=

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 Run_zps0cc52907

Second from last line - a sly dig at husband Tony Rickwood, Ms McCann?

by Guest 30.07.14 9:56

Nelly6969 wrote:I probably (by which I mean definitely) shouldn't say this, but stick the cheapest shoulder length nylon wig you can find on JMc, and you've got a "Maddie".

I couldn't agree more Clay, the similarity is uncanny

Thirded. In my opinion the similarities in this photo are striking and makes me wonder if this photograph behind JMC was deliberately staged in some way, I mean it is just sooo striking....
Sorry to go off topic

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 Johnmc3_zpsfbd704ee

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 Johnmc3_zpsfbd704ee

by missbeetle 11.08.14 21:22

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Big sister and her dear little brother - sound alike, frown alike...

First time I've seen Gerry's great big dimple, though.

Sweeet!

by Guest 11.08.14 21:34

misbeetle, what do you think happened to Madeleine McCann?

by missbeetle 11.08.14 22:37

Ladyinred wrote:misbeetle, what do you think happened to Madeleine McCann?

That's a tough one, Ladyinred.

My ideas and perceptions keep on changing - which is good.

The confusion, not so!

There's the saying "You cannot see the woods for the trees",

which I would counter with "if you don't examine the trees themselves...

...you will not know what kind of forest you are in".

My current belief is that her disappearance/presumed demise was more to do with genetics than paedophilia.

I think the genetics/IVF aspect of this case is the other elephant in the room.

However, I haven't any clear theories borne out by BMD.

by **PeterMac** 11.08.14 22:40

missbeetle wrote:"
Big sister and her dear little brother - sound alike, frown alike...

Big sister - married to a man who thinks making films about scantily clad or naked young women drowning in swamps and quicksand is a good idea, and photoshops photos specifically to prove this . .
and who lives in a tiny village where another teacher from the school BEGGED to be locked up for his 'inappropriate" thoughts - and photos - about young girls. [He was]
And that was a teacher from her own department ! Did she know know, did she suspect, Should she have known or suspected. Or was the stuff on her husbands computers a complete mystery ?
And who talked about smashed window shutters, and that it would only take one "greedy and unscrupulous person" to come forward and give evidence which would lead to the return of Madeleine
(- or claim the reward )
With a sister like that,. . . .

Someone once said,
You can choose your friends. Relatives are thrust upon you.

It took TM a long time to shut down the family

by Dr What 11.08.14 22:46

It did, PeterMac.

But not before most of them had taken their slice of the big Fund cake.

by Gaggzy 12.08.14 1:22

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 Phil9_zps17eca8d4

Following the shocking death of Hollywood actor Robin Williams, film producers have come across a photo of a person they think can play the lead role in Mrs Doubtfire 2.

by plebgate 12.08.14 6:12

That photo of Philo is certainly enough to put one off one's early morning cuppa.

Somehow reminds me of Churchill.

I wonder if Mr. ever offers his sister dietary advice?

by Snifferdog 12.08.14 9:54

PeterMac wrote:
missbeetle wrote:"
Big sister and her dear little brother - sound alike, frown alike...

Big sister - married to a man who thinks making films about scantily clad or naked young women drowning in swamps and quicksand is a good idea, and photoshops photos specifically to prove this . .
and who lives in a tiny village where another teacher from the school BEGGED to be locked up for his 'inappropriate" thoughts - and photos - about young girls. [He was]
And that was a teacher from her own department ! Did she know know, did she suspect, Should she have known or suspected. Or was the stuff on her husbands computers a complete mystery ?
And who talked about smashed window shutters, and that it would only take one "greedy and unscrupulous person" to come forward and give evidence which would lead to the return of Madeleine
(- or claim the reward )
With a sister like that,. . . .

Someone once said,
You can choose your friends. Relatives are thrust upon you.

It took TM a long time to shut down the family

Good post PeterMac. So true.

Dr. What said:

It did, PeterMac.
But not before most of them had taken their slice of the big Fund cake.

Interesting observation Dr.What. (My bold).
Off to Portugal and "sweet"

for ClanMcCann. I suspect tiny tears caught on how to shut his rellies up in the end imo.

by Guest 12.08.14 11:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN7SBCDC-fA

@ .30 Negligible parents. Indeed.

by jeanmonroe 12.08.14 12:09

5th May 2007.
Philomena says she has spoken to Gerry ''several times'' and she is still recounting the 'abductor through the window' scenario, when she says ''It is obvious that someone, with malicious intent, went through that window and took Madeleine.....''

"Gerry and Kate are in a clear line of sight of their kids" (presumeably 'wearing' their X-Ray vision googles, that can 'see' through the solid brick walls of their apartment to the 'front' kiddies bedroom! OBVIOUSLY!).........Really Phil?
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Hmmmm.

That's NOT what your BROTHER and sister in law, Gerry and Kate McCann, are saying NOW, is it Philomena?

THEY are saying the 'burglator' entered the apartment via the patio door which they, your BROTHER and his wife had, diliberately and consciously, left UNLOCKED.

If the McCanns had tried to claim for missing 'valuables' from an insurance company, they would have been laughed out of the 'office'!

"So, how did the burglars break into your apartment, to 'steal' the 'valuables' you are claiming for, Mr and Mrs McCann?"

"Er, um, erm, 'cough' they didn't ACTUALLY break in, as such, er, um, they entered our apartment through the patio door, we had diliberately and consciously left unlocked whilst we went out of sight to the tapas restaurant"

"Ah"

by aiyoyo 12.08.14 12:49

Dr What wrote:It did, PeterMac.

But not before most of them had taken their slice of the big Fund cake.

I doubt very much they got to smell the pie.
They were dumped because they became too much of a liability.
In lieu of them, skinny Kate was sent to the front line as required, even though she can't string a proper sentence.

by Snifferdog 12.08.14 15:10

Even though she was not fat with a huge pair of knockers. (rephrased from Kate McCann. Sorry, i can it remember the exact words).

by jeanmonroe 12.08.14 15:19

Snifferdog wrote:Even though she was not fat with a huge pair of knockers. (rephrased from Kate McCann. Sorry, i can it remember the exact words).

Kate "believes she is being PERSECUTED because of her APPEARANCE," her mother revealed today. In an extraordinary interview, Susan Healy described how her distraught daughter claimed "if she was HEAVIER—and had BIGGER BREASTS—people would be more SYMPATHETIC."
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memo to K McCann AND her mother:

People don't like bigger boobed, heavier, 'LIARS' either!

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 Matern10

Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.." - Page 7 Matern10

Hmmm. Now let me............ thinking

NAH! I'm still totally UNSYMPATHETIC towards a negligent parent, who through her own diliberate, and conscious, actions 'lost' one of her three kids.

by Gaggzy 12.08.14 15:28

jeanmonroe wrote:
Snifferdog wrote:Even though she was not fat with a huge pair of knockers. (rephrased from Kate McCann. Sorry, i can it remember the exact words).

Kate "believes she is being PERSECUTED because of her APPEARANCE," her mother revealed today. In an extraordinary interview, Susan Healy described how her distraught daughter claimed "if she was HEAVIER—and had BIGGER BREASTS—people would be more SYMPATHETIC."
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memo to K McCann AND her mother:

People don't like bigger boobed, heavier, 'LIARS' either!

I can imagine Philomena McCann lamenting, 'Hark, if only I were a slim, svelte, twiggy-esque size zero. Then everyone would believe that those shutters had been jemmied open; smashed to bits, looking as if they'd been blasted by a dozen sticks of dynamite.'

by Snifferdog 12.08.14 15:31

People also don't like busty overweight child neglecting/abusing women either.

by nglfi 12.08.14 15:40

jeanmonroe wrote:
Snifferdog wrote:Even though she was not fat with a huge pair of knockers. (rephrased from Kate McCann. Sorry, i can it remember the exact words).

Kate "believes she is being PERSECUTED because of her APPEARANCE," her mother revealed today. In an extraordinary interview, Susan Healy described how her distraught daughter claimed "if she was HEAVIER—and had BIGGER BREASTS—people would be more SYMPATHETIC."
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What she meant was that attractive people are generally considered more trustworthy, and are generally more successful in their endeavours because they are given more chances by others and tend to do better in interviews for example. I have no idea why that should be the case but I have read psychological studies about this. I believe Kate laments the fact she isn't attractive as it would make her lies more believable/fewer people would question them.

As an example, I personally think Jeremy Bamber is really quite attractive, and whilst common sense and what I've read about the case does suggest to me there's a good chance he's guilty, something about his face makes me feel like he wouldn't do something like that. I don't know why, I just get that feeling. Although it shouldn't be, appearance is everything. Hence the images of Gerry laughing just a few days after Maddie's disappearance will forever stick in people's minds and cannot be erased. Similarly, Kate is right, had she been young, attractive and yes, big breasted, I think the general public may have been less likely to question their version of events (or want to believe them more).

by nglfi 12.08.14 15:48

Article about attractiveness and its links to perceptions of trustworthiness. Sorry if this is straying a bit off topic but I believe this is why Kate made these comments -

http://neuropoly.com/2010/07/11/are-attractive-people-really-more-trustworthy/

by jeanmonroe 12.08.14 15:53

What she meant was that attractive people are generally considered more trustworthy, and are generally more successful in their endeavours because they are given more chances by others and tend to do better in interviews.
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Thanks for that.

Dosen't 'explain' the great 'love fest' towards serial child abuser, (CURRENT Deputy Prime Minister of UK, NICK 'you're my inspiration and hero, Cyril' CLEGG) 35 stone MP Cyril Smith, of Rochdale, and why he had soooooooo many SYMPATHETIC 'supporters' does it?

Because he was er, 'HEAVIER'?

(he did have BIGGER 'moobs' than K McCann, though!)

Glad i 'get that'!.....................NOT!

by nglfi 12.08.14 16:00

jeanmonroe wrote:What she meant was that attractive people are generally considered more trustworthy, and are generally more successful in their endeavours because they are given more chances by others and tend to do better in interviews.
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Thanks for that.

That 'explains' the great 'love fest' towards serial child abuser, 35 stone MP Cyril Smith, of Rochdale, and why he had soooooooo many SYMPATHETIC 'supporters'!

Because he was er, 'HEAVIER'

(and he had BIGGER 'moobs' than K McCann!)

Glad i 'get that'!.....................NOT!

I'm not sure there was ever a 'love fest' around Cyril Smith, and if there was I certainly don't want to hear about it! Just because he wasn't prosecuted for his offences it doesn't mean people liked him or thought he was an honest, scrupulous character. There was obviously a cover up culture at that time and for whatever reason he got away with his crimes, but I'm not sure the public perception of him was ever particularly positive.
It is a well known psychological phenomenon that people who are considered more attractive are also considered more trustworthy and successful. I'm not saying it is right or has any logic behind it, but it is what it is. I believe Kate would have wanted to latch on to that if she could, but people don't seem to be amenable to her in that way more than any other, and this obviously grates with her, hence the interview.

ETA both Kate and Gerry seem to have a very good grasp (or did initially) of how to manipulate public opinion. Where they both fell down was their arrogance. The 'wider agenda' for example, was a good idea to lay out and summarise ways of how to get off with the crime, and which elements to draw in from where. It wasn't such a good idea to publicise it however, arrogance strikes again. As has been mentioned previously about Kate, she always had a good awareness of when to take care over her appearance and when to let it go in order to seem the distraught mother. Gerry's 'confusion is good' quote is another example. Get a wealth of information, false or not, get it out there and people will speculate and get further and further away from the truth. This is where I think Kate's comment in the interview (spoken through her mother) comes in - she knows how much it would have helped the pair of them if she had been considered attractive and is pissed off that it isn't the case.

by jeanmonroe 12.08.14 16:09

Let's get this STRAIGHT!

I'll risk a weeks 'ban' for saying this.

NOBODY gives a flying 'fcuk' about K McCann!

IT AIN'T ALL 'ABOUT' HER!

(although she'd love it to be!)

EVERYBODY ONLY CARES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO A DEFENCELESS LITTLE GIRL, LEFT ON HER OWN WITH HER YOUNGER SIBLINGS, WHILST THE SCRAWNY K MCCANN WENT OUT ENJOYING HERSELF WITH HER FRIENDS!

(Who ALSO, LEST WE FORGET, LEFT ALL OF THEIR KIDS, ONE OF WHICH WAS 'SICK', AND ANOTHER WHO HAD 'SOILED' CLOTHING, ALONE IN THEIR APARTMENTS WHILST OUT ENJOYING THEMSELVES WITH THE, SELF CONFESSED, NEGLIGENT MCCANNS!)

BUT HEY HO, WHY LET A 'SICK' KID GET IN THE WAY OF A NICE MEAL OUT WITH ALL OF YOUR OTHER NEGLIGENT FRIENDS!

Ah, 'poor' SCRAWNY Kate...........................pass the sick bucket!

:puke: :puke: :puke: