PETITION UPDATES - The target is now 10,000 SIGNATURES by 30 March 2015

Jamming wrote:Tony, I don't know if i am doing something wrong - but has this petition been whooshed ? I get web page unavailable when i click the link

springer wrote:

Jamming wrote:Tony, I don't know if i am doing something wrong - but has this petition been whooshed ? I get web page unavailable when i click the link

 Try this link - I think there is a typo in the first post.  If I am correct, perhaps someone can amend it.

amended to say that I think the typo is in Tony's signature

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/69944

Snifferdog wrote:Wow! Congrats with the concerted effort all. Unfortunately I cannot sign, otherwise I would.

tiny wrote:I love rothley,he tells it how it is.

Ladyinred wrote:

tiny wrote:I love rothley,he tells it how it is.

Me, too.

Tony Bennett wrote:

Ladyinred wrote:

tiny wrote:I love rothley, he tells it how it is.

Me, too.

13 signatures in the past hour make it the 6th highest trending petition at the moment on the Prime Minister's website: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk

We need another 20 signatures or so to push this petition into the top 200 petitions on the PM's list of petitions - can we do this today?  

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/69944

Tony Bennett wrote:

Thank you to all who signed this petition yesterday - over 100 in a day - taking the petition to the 196th highest petition out of nearly 6,000 on the Prime Minister's website, with (currently) 1,192 signatures.  

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Tony Bennett wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Ladyinred wrote:

tiny wrote:I love rothley, he tells it how it is.

Me, too.

13 signatures in the past hour make it the 6th highest trending petition at the moment on the Prime Minister's website: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk

We need another 20 signatures or so to push this petition into the top 200 petitions on the PM's list of petitions - can we do this today?  

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/69944

Thank you to all who signed this petition yesterday - over 100 in a day - taking the petition to the 196th highest petition out of nearly 6,000 on the Prime Minister's website, with (currently) 1,192 signatures.  

Can I appeal to anyone reading this post who is a member of any Faceboook group to regularly mention this petition on their groups, repetition is important. In doing so, always give the link, of course, and update group members with the numbers who have signed already.


The Greenink challenge    

We have a new target, courtesy of a frequent, and nasty, Twitter poster known as 'greenink211'. S/he also posts on the notorious JATYK2 forum. 

Here is a series of three tweets last week:

green @greenink211

@zampos I bet you ten quid you don't get more than a couple of thousand names on that petition. LOL #McCann -12 Oct 

Dumpling  @tdurbo  

@greenink211 @zampos Bet ME ten quid. In fact make it £100

Anthony Bennett  [email=‏@zampos]‏@zampos[/email]

I don't bet @greenink211 but will pay OXFAM £10 if we don't get 2,000 names on new #McCann petition http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/69944 #WillYouPayIfWeDo?

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So, Greenink211 has issued the challenge: s/he will pay me £10 if Helen Williamson's petition doesn't make 2,000 signatures.

I responded by offering to donate £10 to OXFAM if we don't make 2,000 signatures (which I wil do anyway). I asked Greenink if s/he would also donate £10 to OXFAM if the petition did 'top' 2,000 signatures, but so far as I'm aware, s/he hasn't responded yet.

Please do all you can to make Greenink lose his/her bet:     http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/69944


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EDITED TO ADD:

The undermentioned petition has 1,199 signatures on it so far. So as things stand, if we get another six signatures on 'our' petition, we will move the petition up from 195th place to 194th. I am not sure whether to sign this petition to make describing casseroles as 'pies' a criminal offence, so maybe someone on here with greater cooking expereince than I have (that'll mean all members, shame to say) could advise please?  

Petition wording: Make wrongly describing a casserole with a pastry lid as a pie a criminal offence.

Responsible department: Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

For too long customers in pubs and restaurants have ordered what is described on the menu as a pie only to be served with casserole in a pot covered by a puff pastry lid. This is not a pie and is also curiously difficult to consume. A pie is defined by the OED as "A baked dish of fruit, or meat and vegetables, typically with a top and base of pastry." This petition urges the implementation of criminal sanctions upon the owners of food outlets that serve items described as pies without a pastry base. Exemptions will apply for Shepherds, Cottage and Fish Pies.

Onager wrote:I had an interesting comment come back from a friend after sending out an email.

A professional artist, she was obviously aware of the case, but not in any detail. By no means a reader of mass MSM. Anyway, after reading my brief appraise of the situation, she said it suddenly made sense, as she's always thought 

"the heart wrenching loss and grief a mother would feel (and often displayed with other grieving parents) were always missing from Kate's McCann's face. She looked scared if anything - or was trying not to!"

Joss wrote:

Onager wrote:I had an interesting comment come back from a friend after sending out an email.

A professional artist, she was obviously aware of the case, but not in any detail. By no means a reader of mass MSM. Anyway, after reading my brief appraise of the situation, she said it suddenly made sense, as she's always thought 

"the heart wrenching loss and grief a mother would feel (and often displayed with other grieving parents) were always missing from Kate's McCann's face. She looked scared if anything - or was trying not to!"

That is what i find so bizarre in this case, even if they are aware that Madeleine has possibly/probably died regardless of the circumstance, wouldn't any parent grieving the thought of death of their child or that she is still alive in the worst case scenario and suffering terribly, be strongly affected by that? It is very rare that a missing child that young is still alive after such a long time. There is no controlling the flood of emotions grieving parents go through, that is why it is referred to as an emotional rollercoaster, yet the McC's seem pretty much in control of their emotions in interviews and the photos we have seen of them online.
There is parental guilt also, all the what if's, and maybe there was something i could have done to prevent it from happening, all those questions that plague grieving parents after a child dies or is lost.

pennylane wrote:

Joss wrote:

Onager wrote:I had an interesting comment come back from a friend after sending out an email.

A professional artist, she was obviously aware of the case, but not in any detail. By no means a reader of mass MSM. Anyway, after reading my brief appraise of the situation, she said it suddenly made sense, as she's always thought 

"the heart wrenching loss and grief a mother would feel (and often displayed with other grieving parents) were always missing from Kate's McCann's face. She looked scared if anything - or was trying not to!"

That is what i find so bizarre in this case, even if they are aware that Madeleine has possibly/probably died regardless of the circumstance, wouldn't any parent grieving the thought of death of their child or that she is still alive in the worst case scenario and suffering terribly, be strongly affected by that? It is very rare that a missing child that young is still alive after such a long time. There is no controlling the flood of emotions grieving parents go through, that is why it is referred to as an emotional rollercoaster, yet the McC's seem pretty much in control of their emotions in interviews and the photos we have seen of them online.
There is parental guilt also, all the what if's, and maybe there was something i could have done to prevent it from happening, all those questions that plague grieving parents after a child dies or is lost.

How many times have police said that a suspect's emotions were very odd, and

Brian Griffin wrote:It's not just the emotions (or lack thereof) but also all the 'tells' they can't control. They abound in these in their interviews but they go ignored by the police, as they have everything so well sewn up with their lawyers and whoever else is affording them this unprecedented level of protection, I would imagine. On another thread Peter Mac has posted a series of photos of the McCanns smiling. Seeing them altogether like that, you look at their faces and see that the hurt that should be there is missing. They are beaming like teenagers in the first flush of love, and this is just days after their daughter went missing. I just can't see how they can be like that. It defies belief. Other parents who have lost children, James Bulger's mother for example, may be able to force a smile if necessary after all these years, but there is a deep sense of pain and hurt about her that she will never be able to shake off. It's there in her face no matter what she does. With the McCanns, this isn't present. It's just not there. The faces they pull seem fake at a core level, which is why so many of us just don't believe them. It's instinct. 

I remember when Ian Huntley appeared on TV before the bodies had been discovered. I remember feeling uneasy and suspicious about him for some reason, although I couldn't put my finger on it at the time, and I was quite shocked that I had felt alerted to something wrong before the truth came out. It has to be unspoken communication and instinct at work. I get the same unease about the McCanns all the time. What they are saying isn't 'jiving' with their unspoken communications.

In my opinion.

Brian Griffin wrote:There's something even odder about this couple. There's an unrealistic sense of detachment, especially from the mother who you would imagine to have an even stronger emotional bond with her child than the father, the baby literally being 'part' of her. Whether what happened to Madeleine was an accident, a result of outside forces, or an attempt by the parents to cover up an unfortunate situation...whatever the case, surely the mother would be devastated by the loss of her child from the very core of her existence. She just doesn't seem bothered enough in my eyes, and I just can't understand how she can be so detached, no matter what has gone on. It isn't real. It isn't human. It isn't even 'animal' because they grieve and hurt too, when their offspring are lost. It feels so heartless to say this, but it's what I feel from the whole situation. I apologise to the McCanns if I am wrong. But a mother goes all out to protect her children. Kate refused to answer questions that any normal parents would have answered without fear for themselves or future projections of possible consequences. The only thing a normal person would feel is 'I want my child back at any cost'.

The rest of the McCanns seem to treat the whole thing like a big 'jolly'. I'm bewildered by these people.

In my opinion.