What really happened? Part 1 - The timeline
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What really happened? Part 1 - The timeline
by Paddingtom 19.08.24 14:33
There has been a great deal of discussion about the timelines. We know at least four versions exist none of which are the same and all have their unique problems.
They were all written after MM was declared missing on 3rd May 2007 and have varying degrees of detail. There are the two stickerbook timelines written in the hours after her disappearance, Kates personal version, not much more than a summary, and the extremely detailed word processed version written much later after the problems with the previous timelines were becoming apparent.
I want to concentrate on the two stickerbook timelines as they were written without the benefit of knowing all the problems they would cause and therefore are probably the closest we will ever get to knowing the truth. But, make no mistake, they are not accurate and are designed to deceive.
Restaurant staff confirmed that Russell was missing for 15 minutes and Gerry was missing for 30 minutes which ties in nicely with our timeline.
They also state that the alarm was actually raised at 9.30.pm not 10.00pm which does not tie in nicely with our timeline.
I want to examine what the timetable would look like if it actually finished at 9.30p.m
Just for the purposes of the experiement I will use Timeline1.(actually the second) but either would do.
APOLOGIES: I have had to put lines between the items to keep them apart.
Original Revised
8.45 p.m. 8.15 p,m
Matt returns 9.00-9.05 - listened at all 3 Matt returns 8.30-8.35 - listened at all 3
- all shutters down - all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well Jerry 8.40-8.45 in the room + all well
? did he check ? did he check
9.20/5 -Ella Jane checked 5D sees stranger & child 8.50/5 - Ella Jane checked 5D sees stranger & child
9.30 - Russ.Ella Matt check all 3 9.00 - Russ. Ella Matt check all 3
9.35 - Matt check see twins 9.05 - Matt check see twins
9.50 - Russ returns 9.20 - Russ returns
9.55 - Kate realised Madeleine 9.25 - Kate realised Madeleine
10pm - Alarm raised 9.30 pm - Alarm raised
It simply does not work. Theyre having a meal before the table is ready and Gerry wouldnt have seen Jez.
So lets see what happens if we only change some of the details. We know Gerry .was missing at 9.15 which ties in with the original timeline and we know we want Jane to see Tannerman at 9.20. so lets stick with the timeline up until that point and adjust the rest accordingly.
I have mentally removed the far too early and clearly impossible times as we are sticking to a 9.30.pm alarm and the remainder I have made bold:
Original Revised
8.45 p.m. 8.15 p,m
Matt returns 9.00-9.05 - listened at all 3 Matt returns 8.30-8.35 - listened at all 3
- all shutters down - all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well Jerry 8.40-8.45 in the room + all well
? did he check ? did he check
9.20/5 -Ella Jane checked 5D sees stranger & child 8.50/5 - Ella Jane checked 5D sees stranger & child
9.30 - Russ.Ella Matt check all 3 9.00 - Russ. Ella Matt check all 3
9.35 - Matt check see twins 9.05 - Matt check see twins
9.50 - Russ returns 9.20 - Russ returns
9.55 - Kate realised Madeleine 9.25 - Kate realised Madeleine
10pm - Alarm raised 9.30 pm - Alarm raised
It begins to make a bit more sense.
Notice the 9.00 – 9.05 entries for both the original and the revised are almost the same as regards Matt.
So lets put them together as one timeline in chronological order with the duplication of Matt removed:
8.45 p.m.
9.00 - Russ.Ella Matt check all 3
9.05 - Matt check see twins
- all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well
? did he check
9.20/5 -Ella Jane checked 5D sees stranger & child
9.20 - Russ returns
9.25 - Kate realised Madeleine
9.30 pm - Alarm raised
It all makes perfect sense. Weve got Matt and Russ checking the children at 9.00pm and Russ discovering his child is ill, but its fine because Matt is on hand and dispatched to inform Jane.
necessitating her return to the apartment and the notorious encounter with Tannerman at 9.20p.m. She is however able to take over from Russell and he returns to the restaurant where the staff re-heat his food for him. The police statements all tie up with this scenario and it fits in nicely with what we know and an alarm taking place at 9.30.p.m.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] STARIKOVA VITORINO. - kitchen assistant:
- Said that, yesterday, one individual, purportedly the father of the missing, left the dinner table where a group of friends (in number 8 or 9), for about 30 minutes. After having returned, a woman whom she believed to be his wife, also left the table, there having passed a few moments, all the guests left the table in question, except one elderly lady.
JOAQUIM JOSE MOREIRA BATISTA. - Table waiter:
- The first to leave was about 40/45 years old (tall, skinny, white complexion, with large [a full head of] hair of color gray) and the period of his absence was about 15 minutes, being that they had to [re-]heat his food, which had cooled;
- The second to leave (about 40/45 years of age, having the physical characteristics of the first, but having less bulky hair) did so for about 30 minutes, and that shortly after he returned, all left the table, except for an elderly person, who told him that a child had disappeared, the daughter of a member of the group, due to which he thought that the second person to leave could have been the father of the child.
I think it is an accurate account of the timeline for that night. It is fairly straightforward and simple enough for everyone to learn. Perfect.
The trouble is, they changed the alarm time to 10.00p.m. for the benefit of the police which meant Russ had to be moved forward half an hour and Matt had to have an extra check at 9.35p.m. to cover the extra time. It also meant that Jane had to do a second visit after Matt alerted her to her sick child, although it is not mentioned in the timeline, only their police statements.
No matter, she had achieved her purpose of seeing Tannerman at 9.20.p.m.and her extra visit was insignificant.
So having designed a clear, workable timetable that they acted out perfectly, what on earth possessed them to tell the police the alarm was raised at 10.00p,m, and give themselves all the problems that they did?
To be continued.......
They were all written after MM was declared missing on 3rd May 2007 and have varying degrees of detail. There are the two stickerbook timelines written in the hours after her disappearance, Kates personal version, not much more than a summary, and the extremely detailed word processed version written much later after the problems with the previous timelines were becoming apparent.
I want to concentrate on the two stickerbook timelines as they were written without the benefit of knowing all the problems they would cause and therefore are probably the closest we will ever get to knowing the truth. But, make no mistake, they are not accurate and are designed to deceive.
Restaurant staff confirmed that Russell was missing for 15 minutes and Gerry was missing for 30 minutes which ties in nicely with our timeline.
They also state that the alarm was actually raised at 9.30.pm not 10.00pm which does not tie in nicely with our timeline.
I want to examine what the timetable would look like if it actually finished at 9.30p.m
Just for the purposes of the experiement I will use Timeline1.(actually the second) but either would do.
APOLOGIES: I have had to put lines between the items to keep them apart.
Original Revised
8.45 p.m. 8.15 p,m
Matt returns 9.00-9.05 - listened at all 3 Matt returns 8.30-8.35 - listened at all 3
- all shutters down - all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well Jerry 8.40-8.45 in the room + all well
? did he check ? did he check
9.20/5 -
9.30 - Russ.
9.35 - Matt check see twins 9.05 - Matt check see twins
9.50 - Russ returns 9.20 - Russ returns
9.55 - Kate realised Madeleine 9.25 - Kate realised Madeleine
10pm - Alarm raised 9.30 pm - Alarm raised
It simply does not work. Theyre having a meal before the table is ready and Gerry wouldnt have seen Jez.
So lets see what happens if we only change some of the details. We know Gerry .was missing at 9.15 which ties in with the original timeline and we know we want Jane to see Tannerman at 9.20. so lets stick with the timeline up until that point and adjust the rest accordingly.
I have mentally removed the far too early and clearly impossible times as we are sticking to a 9.30.pm alarm and the remainder I have made bold:
Original Revised
8.45 p.m. 8.15 p,m
Matt returns 9.00-9.05 - listened at all 3 Matt returns 8.30-8.35 - listened at all 3
- all shutters down - all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well Jerry 8.40-8.45 in the room + all well
? did he check ? did he check
9.20/5 -
9.30 - Russ.
9.35 - Matt check see twins 9.05 - Matt check see twins
9.50 - Russ returns 9.20 - Russ returns
9.55 - Kate realised Madeleine 9.25 - Kate realised Madeleine
10pm - Alarm raised 9.30 pm - Alarm raised
It begins to make a bit more sense.
Notice the 9.00 – 9.05 entries for both the original and the revised are almost the same as regards Matt.
So lets put them together as one timeline in chronological order with the duplication of Matt removed:
8.45 p.m.
9.00 - Russ.
9.05 - Matt check see twins
- all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well
? did he check
9.20/5 -
9.20 - Russ returns
9.25 - Kate realised Madeleine
9.30 pm - Alarm raised
It all makes perfect sense. Weve got Matt and Russ checking the children at 9.00pm and Russ discovering his child is ill, but its fine because Matt is on hand and dispatched to inform Jane.
necessitating her return to the apartment and the notorious encounter with Tannerman at 9.20p.m. She is however able to take over from Russell and he returns to the restaurant where the staff re-heat his food for him. The police statements all tie up with this scenario and it fits in nicely with what we know and an alarm taking place at 9.30.p.m.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] STARIKOVA VITORINO. - kitchen assistant:
- Said that, yesterday, one individual, purportedly the father of the missing, left the dinner table where a group of friends (in number 8 or 9), for about 30 minutes. After having returned, a woman whom she believed to be his wife, also left the table, there having passed a few moments, all the guests left the table in question, except one elderly lady.
JOAQUIM JOSE MOREIRA BATISTA. - Table waiter:
- The first to leave was about 40/45 years old (tall, skinny, white complexion, with large [a full head of] hair of color gray) and the period of his absence was about 15 minutes, being that they had to [re-]heat his food, which had cooled;
- The second to leave (about 40/45 years of age, having the physical characteristics of the first, but having less bulky hair) did so for about 30 minutes, and that shortly after he returned, all left the table, except for an elderly person, who told him that a child had disappeared, the daughter of a member of the group, due to which he thought that the second person to leave could have been the father of the child.
I think it is an accurate account of the timeline for that night. It is fairly straightforward and simple enough for everyone to learn. Perfect.
The trouble is, they changed the alarm time to 10.00p.m. for the benefit of the police which meant Russ had to be moved forward half an hour and Matt had to have an extra check at 9.35p.m. to cover the extra time. It also meant that Jane had to do a second visit after Matt alerted her to her sick child, although it is not mentioned in the timeline, only their police statements.
No matter, she had achieved her purpose of seeing Tannerman at 9.20.p.m.and her extra visit was insignificant.
So having designed a clear, workable timetable that they acted out perfectly, what on earth possessed them to tell the police the alarm was raised at 10.00p,m, and give themselves all the problems that they did?
To be continued.......
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