Re: New Madeleine McCann book will claim missing tot is already dead

by Silentscope 26.05.24 17:34

Dr Amaral believed 'Smithman' was maybe looking for a FREEZER.

From 'The Interpretation of Murder' by Jed Rubenfeld.

"In this heat, he explained, decomposition would rapidly set in if the corpse was not refrigerated at once." (p.28).

Source: https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16425-gerry-mccann-s-bedside-reading-the-interpretation-of-murder

If the McCanns are as devout as they claim, and a Priest had been requested, then the 'Last Rites' would have to be performed before any form of disposal could take place, or?

by Ladyinred 26.05.24 17:43

Where have the parents ever claimed they are devout Catholics?

As far as I am aware, they have never said this. They are not devout Catholics, IMO. A Catholic priest would not carry out Last Rites in the scenario you describe - before disposal of the body.

by **Jill Havern** 26.05.24 17:48

Amaral: "The Priests know very well what happened"

by **Jill Havern** 26.05.24 17:51

Didn't he later have a meltdown because he was betrayed or something?

by crusader 26.05.24 17:52

Kate's mum denied they were devout Catholics, but that is irrelevant as far as the last rights were concerned, the priest would have given the last rights to Madeleine if he was asked.
Madeleine was Christened Catholic and was entitled to receive the last rights.
Actualluy LadyinRed, you are right. A priest can't administer the last rights on a dead body that had been dead for over an hour.
He could however pray for her soul.

by Cake Lover 26.05.24 17:53

I think it was the original, local priest who made that claim.

by Ladyinred 26.05.24 17:53

#203 The priests (including the Catholic one) may well know what happened.

If Madeleine died in the apartment earlier in the week it would be too late for the Last Rites.

by Silentscope 26.05.24 17:56

Maybe it is only the opinion of the Press that they are devout anything.

They have certainly printed it often enough...

More likely they are hiding behind the Skirts of Priests I find.

by **PeterMac** 26.05.24 19:13

Bernt Stellander on Sonia P’s show TOMORROW Morningm Monday 27 9am
preliminary interview to set the scene and full [odcast length one planned in a week or so
can someone RECORD it in a form which can be posted

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by **Jill Havern** 26.05.24 19:56

Ep. 1: Wake Up With Sonia Poulton

Scheduled for May 27, 2024 at 09.00AM

Journalist and broadcaster Sonia Poulton starts the day with guests, chatters & their take on news

by Jimtheblue 26.05.24 20:09

Sonia,one of the best in the fight for the truth about Maddie she will take
on anyone who will call her out ,she is brilliant.

by Ladyinred 26.05.24 20:12

Jill, can we watch it on the link above? #210

by **Jill Havern** 26.05.24 20:18

Yes, just click on it around 9am and it should start playing.

by Ladyinred 26.05.24 20:19

Thank you. I'll be watching along with you all.

by sandancer 26.05.24 21:14

Jill Havern wrote:Amaral: "The Priests know very well what happened"

Yes but which priest or priests ?

Father Jose Pacheco , Roman Catholic priest of the church in Praia de Luz couldn't speak English , the one who said he'd been decieved , and soon left ?

Father Haynes Hubbard Anglican , who with his wife flew in from Canada on the 6th May and quickly became best friends with the McCanns ?

Father Paul Seddon , Roman Catholic who married Kate and Gerry , baptised Madeleine ( and the twins ?) Flew in with others to help after the " abduction"

Father David Heal Anglican , and his wife who were apparently at the apartment with the McCanns around 4am on the morning of the 4 th May . According to Kate in her version of the truth , yet no one else mentions them being there in any statement though Russell had the man's phone number in his phone . He is never seen or heard from again , no statement , no interviews just silence !

Hubbard and Heal both Anglican , so no confession , Pacheco didn't speak English , Seddon ? Who knows ? Goncalo Amaral ?

by Ladyinred 26.05.24 22:42

The Anglican priests might know something, it doesn't require a Confession for them.to be informed. Same for the Catholic priests.

by Cake Lover 26.05.24 23:05

Father Jose 'has had his church stripped of all memories of Madeleine '. I don't know when this was carried out.

by Cake Lover 27.05.24 8:54

Are we all ready For Sonia's broadcast? nod

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 9:04

Jill Havern wrote:

Ep. 1: Wake Up With Sonia Poulton

Scheduled for May 27, 2024 at 09.00AM

Journalist and broadcaster Sonia Poulton starts the day with guests, chatters & their take on news

Sonia is live now....

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 9:23

Although CMOMM promotes Sonia Poulton she, in turn, blocks us and calls us a Cesspit.

think

by Ladyinred 27.05.24 9:40

I enjoyed that interview, a taster for what's to come. He says he has pinpointed the timing of when and what happened. What does he say in the book - parents returned late evening to find Madeleine dead on the floor?

Those involved should be feeling very nervous. PeterMac is surely correct about the parent's non-attendance at the anniversary gathering.

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 9:44

And I haven't forgotten how closely Sonia worked with Ben Thompson/andyfish who created all sorts of problems, and death threats, for members of this forum.

Or how she managed to doorstep Kate McCann, complete with camera crew and ribbons, shortly after Brenda Leyland's death.

I don't forget that easily. No siree.

by Cake Lover 27.05.24 9:58

I have mentioned before that I find her a bit flaky, but I tuned in for the F.D. I like his explanation for the size and weight of the book. I doubt the McCann's do though.

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 10:09

Yes, I'm glad the FD was on so soon so I didn't have to listen to the rest of it.

by Cake Lover 27.05.24 10:26

It's bad enough that the parents could have returned to find Madeleine dead, and instantly made the cover up decision. If they found her alive, and didn't immediately send for an ambulance, one of them attempting cpr at the same time, that's a thousand time worse, imo.

by crusader 27.05.24 11:02

I don't know anything about Poulton causing trouble for the forum, I've never heard her say anything bad about it.
It was obviously before I joined.
is there a post where I can read about it?

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 11:12

Sonia's got her own section on this forum
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/f53-sonia-poulton-the-untold-story-of-madeleine-mccann-film

She may do some good work now, but that wasn't always the case...she's been aligned with some very dubious characters.

by crusader 27.05.24 11:17

Thanks Jill.

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 11:27

I will promote anyone, via this forum and my facebook groups, who are doing the right thing by Maddie McCann...but that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss the bad things they do.

And if that makes this forum a Cesspit, then so be it. Just leave the death threats out of it.