Re: New Madeleine McCann book will claim missing tot is already dead

by Jimtheblue 26.05.24 20:09

Sonia,one of the best in the fight for the truth about Maddie she will take
on anyone who will call her out ,she is brilliant.

by **Ladyinred** 26.05.24 20:12

Jill, can we watch it on the link above? #210

by **Jill Havern** 26.05.24 20:18

Yes, just click on it around 9am and it should start playing.

by **Ladyinred** 26.05.24 20:19

Thank you. I'll be watching along with you all.

by **sandancer** 26.05.24 21:14

Jill Havern wrote:Amaral: "The Priests know very well what happened"

Yes but which priest or priests ?

Father Jose Pacheco , Roman Catholic priest of the church in Praia de Luz couldn't speak English , the one who said he'd been decieved , and soon left ?

Father Haynes Hubbard Anglican , who with his wife flew in from Canada on the 6th May and quickly became best friends with the McCanns ?

Father Paul Seddon , Roman Catholic who married Kate and Gerry , baptised Madeleine ( and the twins ?) Flew in with others to help after the " abduction"

Father David Heal Anglican , and his wife who were apparently at the apartment with the McCanns around 4am on the morning of the 4 th May . According to Kate in her version of the truth , yet no one else mentions them being there in any statement though Russell had the man's phone number in his phone . He is never seen or heard from again , no statement , no interviews just silence !

Hubbard and Heal both Anglican , so no confession , Pacheco didn't speak English , Seddon ? Who knows ? Goncalo Amaral ?

by **Ladyinred** 26.05.24 22:42

The Anglican priests might know something, it doesn't require a Confession for them.to be informed. Same for the Catholic priests.

by Cake Lover 26.05.24 23:05

Father Jose 'has had his church stripped of all memories of Madeleine '. I don't know when this was carried out.

by Cake Lover 27.05.24 8:54

Are we all ready For Sonia's broadcast? nod

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 9:04

Jill Havern wrote:

Ep. 1: Wake Up With Sonia Poulton

Scheduled for May 27, 2024 at 09.00AM

Journalist and broadcaster Sonia Poulton starts the day with guests, chatters & their take on news

Sonia is live now....

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 9:23

Although CMOMM promotes Sonia Poulton she, in turn, blocks us and calls us a Cesspit.

think

by **Ladyinred** 27.05.24 9:40

I enjoyed that interview, a taster for what's to come. He says he has pinpointed the timing of when and what happened. What does he say in the book - parents returned late evening to find Madeleine dead on the floor?

Those involved should be feeling very nervous. PeterMac is surely correct about the parent's non-attendance at the anniversary gathering.

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 9:44

And I haven't forgotten how closely Sonia worked with Ben Thompson/andyfish who created all sorts of problems, and death threats, for members of this forum.

Or how she managed to doorstep Kate McCann, complete with camera crew and ribbons, shortly after Brenda Leyland's death.

I don't forget that easily. No siree.

by Cake Lover 27.05.24 9:58

I have mentioned before that I find her a bit flaky, but I tuned in for the F.D. I like his explanation for the size and weight of the book. I doubt the McCann's do though.

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 10:09

Yes, I'm glad the FD was on so soon so I didn't have to listen to the rest of it.

by Cake Lover 27.05.24 10:26

It's bad enough that the parents could have returned to find Madeleine dead, and instantly made the cover up decision. If they found her alive, and didn't immediately send for an ambulance, one of them attempting cpr at the same time, that's a thousand time worse, imo.

by **crusader** 27.05.24 11:02

I don't know anything about Poulton causing trouble for the forum, I've never heard her say anything bad about it.
It was obviously before I joined.
is there a post where I can read about it?

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 11:12

Sonia's got her own section on this forum
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/f53-sonia-poulton-the-untold-story-of-madeleine-mccann-film

She may do some good work now, but that wasn't always the case...she's been aligned with some very dubious characters.

by **crusader** 27.05.24 11:17

Thanks Jill.

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 11:27

I will promote anyone, via this forum and my facebook groups, who are doing the right thing by Maddie McCann...but that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss the bad things they do.

And if that makes this forum a Cesspit, then so be it. Just leave the death threats out of it.

by **crusader** 27.05.24 11:31

Quite right, the good and the bad.

by **AnneCGuedes** 27.05.24 11:49

Ladyinred wrote:Anne, do you believe Smithman was Gerry?

Yes, Ladyinred, evidence (especially the clumsy way of carrying the child) makes me think so.

by **crusader** 27.05.24 11:54

Do you think if it was Gerry, he was carrying the child in a deliberately clumsy way so as to throw anyone off who saw him @AnneCGuedes?
Tannerman was carrying the child in a clumsy way though

by Cake Lover 27.05.24 12:01

If the child was not Madeleine, I think she was sedated.

by **Ladyinred** 27.05.24 12:04

AnneCGuedes wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Anne, do you believe Smithman was Gerry?
Yes, Ladyinred, evidence (especially the clumsy way of carrying the child) makes me think so.

A dangerous, audacious, desperate course of action if so.

He would then have left Madeleine's dead body somewhere close, such as the cemetry, to join the rest of the group.

by **crusader** 27.05.24 12:08

But if Madeleine was already dead, she would have been hidden before the night of the 3rd.
Isn't that what the FD said, she died on the 2nd.

by **Ladyinred** 27.05.24 12:09

Yes, death on Wednesday 2nd.

Hidden in the apartment?

by **crusader** 27.05.24 12:10

I wouldn't have thought so myself, either the church or somewhere else, a freezer?

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 12:11

Ladyinred wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Anne, do you believe Smithman was Gerry?
Yes, Ladyinred, evidence (especially the clumsy way of carrying the child) makes me think so.
A dangerous, audacious, desperate course of action if so.

He would then have left Madeleine's dead body somewhere close, such as the cemetry, to join the rest of the group.

A 'sudden impulse'.

The Priests know what happened - G Amaral.

by **crusader** 27.05.24 12:23

I'm convinced the priests know as well, but if it was confessed to them, they will never tell.

by **AnneCGuedes** 27.05.24 14:31

crusader wrote:Do you think if it was Gerry, he was carrying the child in a deliberately clumsy way so as to throw anyone off who saw him @AnneCGuedes?
Tannerman was carrying the child in a clumsy way though

Not deliberately at all,Crusader, the law of gravity demanded. Even in a coma there is still a certain amount of muscular tension. Smithman wouldn't have looked clumsy if he'd been carrying like Tannerman, the S would have thought the child was in a very bad state (because nobody spontaneously imagines walking down the street with a dead child against their shoulder).