Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

cb and his transport is a bit of a mess.

first i also has named it a winnebago, but there looks to be 2 different large campervans around, winnebago is one mark, the latest picture in silent hopes post is a tiffin allegro, different brand of campervans. so i do not know if there really have been a winnebago and a tiffin allegro, dieter f, thinks there must be two, or just the usual mix up of two just big brands for the same one and only large caompervan. 

the blue transporter, also called a small campervan was a bedford, but there are many leads to blue bedfords, one lead is helge b. did own a blue bedford, that was said scrapped with the famous sm or rape video, with a girl that was said between, 14, 15, or 16 years of age and the older woman, about her forties by manfred s. and possible called out help in an italian way. 

there is another blue bedford minivan/campervan, that is said confiscated when cb and michael t. caught red handed in the diesel theft in 2006 in portugal. some say it was kept by the portuguese police, because there was not been paid for keeping it in storage. the rest is more vague.

the vw transporter t13 campervan, the witte/yellow, or ivory/bamboo colored one, is also not going with an unique story, there is said on one of the docu's by missus p. that her family lent it to cb when he got out of jail just before christmas 2006 to stay in, and that he stayed with it on their property.

but there is also a story out by another mister p. that he bought the vw t13 from cb and that is was taken away by the police. 

the large campervan if it is a winnebago or tiffin allegro was found, or one alike on the boxfactory raid in neuwegersleben in 2016. 

the jaguar and possibly other cars as well had been registered on names of buddies of cb in germany, first one in muenchen, and when that chap did no longer wanted to have a car to his name for cb, het got it transfered on the name of alexander b., who was the one that decided himself to regestister the car to his name on the 4th of may 2007. 

a white van is nowhere established as a cb one with a date or use. but there is talk about another vw transporter or a mercedes vito, but that is mostly on fora. the only white van i do know of is the one in the stories of that heriberto figure, with the google maps. what he told was said to belong to a neighbor of cb's landlady in pdl, that parked it there at the time, and would have been a renault van. 

there are other cars talked about a vw sedan, further typing not noted, and a small fiat a young lady talked about, that found cb a nice person, he helped her out and had told her the car was beyond repair, but later she saw him driving it around. 

so the transports of cb are a bit of a habit like usually in this case, a lot of blabla talking heads, but very little to check it. 

it is a bit of the same with his living in pdl, it looks like it, he only lived there til the arrest for diesel teft in 2006, that was april 2006, he did not paid any rent and after some visits, or break ins from his buddies christian p, helge b. and manfred s. the landlady did empty the little finca out, and only his one time lawyer told he still had that same little finca when he came out of jail. still from the other parties that had somethings to tell on camera that is not very likely. 

the same when you look at his later transport, he fled again from germany when on parole there, some say by taking a bus to amsterdam, but there is nothing to check against that, he could have uses many different busline operators to get into the netherlands, places like utrecht or arnhem are also possible for such traveling from germany and get on a busline to italy where he was arrested again, on an international warrant from germany and extradited by. 

all the cars and vans talked about is from the years between 1995 and 2020, and over 25 years it are not that much cars. c was once a apprentice in a garage, and was said to have been active with the odd car repairs.

the same people, or people from the same families are telling quite different stories about the cars and vans, so who knows when the big and of course better docu from the spannish expat gets out, who knows, maybe we get jane tanner flipflopping in those streets seeing just one sharp look at a cb, her memory is always been growing with the next statement, so who knows? her memory did also grow from egg head to full color abductor. 

jane tanner could be the star witness for hcw, but it looks like the mccanns do not like the germans that much, so the pact that not exist will block that of course. 

that deep trench would be still a bit of a problem of course, none of the people have been telling they had to jump the trench to get to talk to each other. the trench is still missing, no one have seen it ever again. but of course none of those 3 is really knowing what side they were on at that time. so maybe the just forgot that trench also. and everyone around has forgotten about that trench, so not that strange gm, jt and jw did not remember the trench.  

the tapas 9 timeline is horrible, it would not even fit mister abductor, but around cb the story is even more distorted. but it is a habit of this case, the versions of the truth are a bit all over the place. at least that is not new.

It wasn't a Winnebago It was definitely a Tiffin Allegra he was driving around from early 2007 (March/April ) 
Silentscope has posted the correct photo ^^^ above.
This is the vehicle the children's swimming costumes were found in.

but the early 2007 indication is only from dieter and nicole their stories, but nothing that gives a solid time, it is everywhere, and if those two are right, there can hardly be a discussion about bought with money of the mccann case, and very difficult to be paid with the money of the supposed moneygrab cb and nicole f. would have to execute in november of 2007 in portugal. 

and dieter have used march to april, in the expat book, but could not be sure if it was april or may 2007 in the mwt docu.  

i have been camping a lot in europe, but never seen the big american campervans at all, big campers yes, but as true trucks. or older emergency vehicles that has been build out as a camper. but i was never much around in the high season, it have never been common vehicles at all. they are not built for smaller roads and our prices for petrol or diesel. also because of the weight it could be you need more then just the b license to drive it. 

they have been in use by semi pro motorsports people, and for bands that have been touring. 

there is one around in the same colors from 1990. https://tiffinmotorhomes.com/blog/a-sturdy-girl-named-pearl

some history from tiffin itself, it has to be from before 1993 if i heard correctly; https://tiffinmotorhomes.com/blog/the-allegro-bus-through-the-years

crusader wrote:This is the vehicle the children's swimming costumes were found in.

Allegedly.

Apologies Verdi, I thought the German prosecutor had said the costumes were found in the Tiffin Allegro found at the disused box factory.

This is nothing but press reportage and other unreliable sources - across social media to this day people are still pawing over urban myth that's been debunked time and time again.  The intent seems to be, if you say it often enough it will become the accepted version of the truth.  Much like Kate McCann's continued assertion about open shutters/windows/doors - debunked very early in the investigation by the prestigious Portuguese police force.

No, they were/are not blundering sardine munching beer swilling befuddled yokels  !

Unless there is official documented evidence to verify any of the allegations published over the years, it stands for little or nothing in the course of justice.  It's not even circumstantial evidence, it's hearsay - rumour!

He said, she said, they said, a source said, it might be, it may be, it could be, perhaps, possibly, someone told me, so and so said .... .

The latest (?) revelation doing the rounds, the name Christian  Brueckner, is no more believable than the rumours scattered forth by the various 'private dicks' contracted by The Fund Madeleine Find - you know, the obscure witnesses who appeared at different periods of time - seemingly at the whiff of a few easy bucks.

Where is the firm evidence that Brueckner owned any of these vehicles under question;  where is the evidence of videoed child abuse;  where are the swimsuits and where is the child abuse material - what is child abuse material?

I've seen a few redacted documents, said to be from an official source, presented by the likes of Sandra Felgueiras in the more recent documentaries but where is the proof of authenticity?

Aside from social media, coverage of the case of missing Madeleine McCann has only every been about sensationalism, the press and media are not interested in true investigative journalism, they are not interested in fact or evidence or even truth.

Pick the bones out of this..

Girls' swimsuits and child abuse material found in Maddie McCann suspect's motor home, documentary claims

By 9News Staff

2:45pm Jun 17, 2020

Girls' swimsuits and child sexual abuse material were found inside the campervan of the new prime Madeleine McCann suspect, according to a German documentary.

German Police discovered the items in 2016, Spiegel TV reported, while they were investigating the disappearance of five-year-old Inga Gehricke.
The documentary also contained claims that Maddie suspect, Christian Brueckner, boasted his large campervan was ideal for hiding drugs and children.

German prosecutors have said they have evidence that Brueckner, currently jailed for another crime, killed Madeleine 13 years ago - just not enough to charge him in court.

Brueckner, 43, is serving a 15-month prison sentence in Germany for drug dealing.

The red and white Allegro Bay RV vehicle was reportedly purchased by Brueckner in 2010 and searched by German Police in 2016, Spiegel TV claimed.





Police found the vehicle at a disused factory site near Braunschweig, in northern-central Germany.

During a week-long examination of the site, police discovered swim suits and computer memory sticks with more than 8,000 files.

The documentary said the files were mostly pictures and videos of child abuse.

Brueckner was being investigated in the disappearance of German girl, Inga, who vanished in the woods while on a family picnic.

A man identified in the documentary only as Bjorn R claimed to know Brueckner during his time in Portugal.

Madeleine went missing in 2007 while on holiday in Portugal with her family. She was aged three at the time of her disappearance.

"Alcohol sometimes loosened his tongue. He said that he was in Portugal and he got in everywhere and stole cameras," Bjorn R said.

"He told me, 'I can transport children, kids, in this space. Drugs and children, you can transport them in this van, it's a safe space in the van, nobody can find them. Nobody can catch you'."

In the documentary, Bjorn R explained Brueckner had been contacted in 2013 by police investigating Madeleine's disappearance.

"One day I came into the kiosk [where Brueckner worked at the time]  and he was a little bit distraught and said, 'Hey, look what I've got here' — and he showed me a subpoena for the Madeleine McCann case.

"You could see it churned him up a bit but he wasn't panicking and he wasn't saying 'they are on my heels'.

"I think he said he had been there but that he had nothing to do with it and that was that."

Brueckner's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher said his client denied any involvement in Madeleine's case.

Since German prosecutors declared in early June they had a new Maddie suspect there has been intense interest in the cold case.

The past 24 hours saw multiple reports claim the German prosecutor leading the investigation had written a letter to Madeleine's parents, informing them she was dead.

But hours later, Kate and Gerry McCann issued a public statement denying they had received any such letter.

Brueckner is currently appealing a conviction for the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman, for which he was sentenced to seven years in jail.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-girls-swimsuits-child-abuse-material-in-christian-brueckner-camper-van-documentary-claims/a6217c8b-3206-45b3-b881-74898b464edc
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All these damning horrendous   accusations and the only known (?) convictions are for pilfering diesel and raping an elderly woman - a hair's breadth away!

Remember the McCanns version of the truth ....

The name Christian Brueckner is being kept afloat for a reason and that reason sure ain't justice in the name of Madeleine McCann. As I've pointed out before, the press and social media'ites promoting this fiasco are staunch McCann'ites and generally very scathing as regards the name Gonçalo Amaral - when hiding behind their own little cyberspace, they become a bit more circumspect when mixing with genuine justice crusaders.

One swimsuit has a German swimming Award badge on it.
No more is known Publicly.

Isn't it nonsense, the swimsuit claim is about as ludicrous [sic] as the pile of passports on the mantelpiece.

Police found the vehicle at a disused factory site near Braunschweig, in northern-central Germany.

Found it? Was it lost? Did the owner either abandon it or park it full of incriminating video footage and girl's swimsuits?

All this alleged incriminating evidence and the authorities still can't nail him for any specific crime?

I despair.

The story's developed wander lust down under, it's found it's way to New Zealand and gained traction en-route.

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner kept kids' clothes and swimwear in his mobile home

17 Jun, 2020 06:49 AM

WARNING: Graphic content.

Girls swimmers and kids clothing have been found in the old campervan of the prime Madeleine McCann suspect.

Convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner bought the red and white Allegro Bay RV in early 2010 – three years after moving back to his native Germany from Portugal.

Friends of the 43-year-old convicted sex offender said he used it to drive regularly back and forth between Germany, Spain and Portugal and once boasted how he could "carry children and drugs" inside.

Now, police have found clothes and swimwear belonging to young girls inside after seizing the campervan as part of their probe into missing Inga Gehricke, a five-year-old Gerrman girl who disappeared in 2015 during a picnic with her parents, The Sun reports.

Brueckner, was also recently named by police as the prime suspect in the girl's disappearance.

According to the report, Brueckner used a derelict crate factory in the small town of Neuwegers­leben, an hour outside of Berlin, as a weekend pad where he kept the RV.

The items were found there in 2016 along with USB sticks containing images of child sex abuse.



Other images on the sticks included some of Brueckner partially naked or wearing stockings performing a solo sex act, as well as others the British press deemed "too graphic" to describe.

The six data sticks and two memory cards were found buried under the body of his dog at the factory, wrapped in a plastic bag.

The revelations came in a documentary broadcast by Spiegel TV which included an interview with a friend, identified only as Bjorn R, who revealed Brueckner's bizarre behaviour while he lived in Portugal – a stint that ran over the 2007 period little Maddie disappeared.

"Alcohol sometimes loosened his tongue. He said that he was in Portugal and he got in everywhere and stole cameras," he said.

"In order not to be recognised where there were cameras, he took off his clothes and put on diving goggles so he wouldn't be recognised."

Last week, a former ambulance driver who met Brueckner and saw the RV said: "He told me, 'I can transport children, kids, in this space. Drugs and children, you can transport them in this van, it's a safe space in the van, nobody can find them. Nobody can catch you'."



While living in Braunschweig, Brueckner ran a kiosk between 2013 and 2015 and he was pictured inside wearing dark sunglasses.

Bjorn told the documentary his former friend had been contacted in 2013 by police investigating Madeleine's disappearance.

He said: "One day I came into the kiosk and he was a little bit distraught and said, 'Hey, look what I've got here' – and he showed me a subpoena for the Madeleine McCann case.

"You could see it churned him up a bit but he wasn't panicking and he wasn't saying, 'They are on my heels'.

"I think he said he had been there but that he had nothing to do with it and that was that."

Brueckner was named prime suspect over the 2007 disappearance of three-year-old Madeleine earlier this month by German cops.

Madeleine vanished from an apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast while on holiday with parents Kate and Gerry.

Two years earlier, Brueckner had raped a 72-year-old American tourist in a nearby villa and was later sentenced to seven years.



He is currently serving time on this charge and on a drugs rap.

He also has 17 convictions across Europe including for sex offences against children.

It was recently reported Maddie's parents, Kate and Gerry, had received a letter from German police confirming their daughter is dead.

But in a statement posted online, Kate and Gerry denied the existence of any such letter.

"The widely reported news that we have a received a letter from the German authorities that states there is evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead is false," they said.

"Like many unsubstantiated stories in the media, this has caused unnecessary anxiety to friends and family and once again disrupted our lives," they added.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-kept-kids-clothes-and-swimwear-in-his-mobile-home/SH5EBZQXMM5XYVW65HKRITC2M4/

If you take any notice of these ludicrous claims, he's had more convictions than Sherlock Holmes has been on the case, yet he managed to stay under the radar for years leaving a trail of crime in his wake.



Aside from 'the kiosk', his past living arrangements differ from one report to another.



Report after report reference video footage of sexual acts, including children yet there is no evidence.



A career in burglary - no evidence.



Flashing, molesting, drug dealing, raping, thieving, bragging, second hand car dealing, child smuggling, murdering, abducting - no evidence.



You couldn't make it up could you - oh but wait ....

I wish they would hurry up, I can't wait to see him in court,
maybe then  this farce will go away.

And maybe we will get some more info, and revelations will come out that we didn't know about.

But then again, it won't be about the McCann's, it will be about CB proving his innocence.

Christian not to B does not have to prove his innocence.

Herr Fülscher might be able to prove he was somehow Set up.

Herr Wolters has to prove he Abducted and Killed Madeleine McCann.

Whatever else he may or my not have done is Irrelevant.

Of course, you are correct, it's not up to CB to prove his innocence, it's up to Herr Wolters to prove his guilt.

I'm presuming the charges will be CB abducted and murdered Madeleine.

Whatever else he may or my not have done is Irrelevant.

As I've repeatedly said.

Then pray, why is Christian Brueckner's past alleged misdemeanors constantly dragged into this discussion?

It's all a load of hogwash anyway, the same old trash has been churned over for two years. Nothing changes.

Raymond Hewlett would no doubt still be centre stage if he hadn't died in the interim - he fitted the profile



Still, keeping it up top takes the focus off the true prime suspects - but that's what this is all about .... ain't it?

Christian not to B does not have to prove his innocence.

We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified."

in: Processo 201/07.0 GALGS - Volume XVII - pages 4636-4638 (Public Prosecutor's Archiving Dispatch)

Another aspect of legal technicality and legalese that leads to miintepretation.

At the time this declaration was first made and thereafter, the same argument was presented across cyberspace .... 'the McCanns do not have to prove their innocence'., seemingly flying the face of the law - a legal document!

Verdi wrote..
Then pray, why is Christian Brueckner's past alleged misdemeanors constantly dragged into this discussion?




I know what you mean, it's a about profiling, showing what a bad man he is and indicating he is more than capable of abducting and killing Madeleine.


He is the only one in the frame at the moment and so the attention is on him and not on the McCann's, hopefully this will all change in the future.

I still find the posts on him interesting, and it keeps us discussing Madeleine.

August 2 2020

Herr Fülscher speaking on influencing the Public, and therefore the Court decisions.

crusader wrote:I still find the posts on him interesting, and it keeps us discussing Madeleine.

This is true to a certain extent although the discussion is not about Madeleine is it - it's about Brueckner.  

Forgive me, I prefer to stick to facts and evidence rather than fiction - unless there is a direct correlation, like Kate Mccann's autobiographical novel.

As I've said, the life and times of Christian Brueckner has not changed since he was first introduced into the public arena, two years ago.  The subject has past it's sell by date long since - his name is being kept up front across social media for a reason and that reason sure ain't justice in the name of Madeleine McCann.

I keep a very watchful eye on the forum.  It is noticeable to me that every time attempts are made to revert to facts, evidence and research, within minutes/hours the name Brueckner is back on top!



If and when something new and significant develops as regards Brueckner and his alleged involvement with Madeleine McCann's disappearance, then time enough for me to take any interest.

Until then ....

Verdi wrote...
This is true to a certain extent although the discussion is not about Madeleine is it - it's about Brueckner. 




Exactly, the purpose of this thread is to discuss Brueckner, and by association, Madeleine.

The setting up of the ‘Prime Patsy’ should have resulted in one thing over the last 24 months.

Wolters should have been summoned to the Justice Minister’s Office to explain why it is all taking so long. Seeing as in the first days it was being reported that they had solved 90% of the Case.

If the Police wanted to look at his legs, they would have done it after his Extradition from Italy.

He would have been ‘Erkennungsdienstlich untersucht’ and had Photos taken of all his VIM ‘s (Visual Identifying Marks) and had them recorded.

Scars, Tatoos, Birthmarks would all have been added to his Prisoner file, in case he escaped.

I rest my case.

No cross-shaped scar
No surgery on his jaw
No dental work
No fibres from the blanket, – which was left on the bed
No fibres from the pyjamas, – which were held up by the parents at the news conference

interesting that when Fricker writes, H. Wolters "refuses to comment"
When Clarke writes, H. Wolters' office confirm things that are part of the prosecution case.
Just a thought.

What is with Clarke’s half a finger print matching Brückner, found on one of Hazel B’s kitchen Knives?

Totally libellous and without foundation as usual?

And again!