Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

by Guest 10.10.21 14:44

The Sun wrote:SICK BOAST Madeleine McCann chief suspect sneers cops ‘will never find a shred of evidence’ to link him to disappearance

Why sick? Why a boast? Why a sneer?

If the cops haven't interviewed him yet, how can he sickly boast and sneer at them?

Who is he sickly boasting and sneering before?

by Guest 10.10.21 14:48

Madeleine McCann chief suspect sneers at cops ....

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 5 Scre1919

Spot on

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by Guest 10.10.21 14:52

They're 'f****ng tossers' for trying to do their jobs. If only the McCann's had done theirs, Madeleine would be here.

by Guest 10.10.21 14:53

Oh bliss!

This is just like the old heady days of yesteryear - Sunday cornflakes with the McCanns.

by **crusader** 10.10.21 15:19

Didn't Gerry say something about there being no evidence to connect them to Madeleine's death.

That's another thing they have in common.

Brueckner supposedly said "They won't find a shred of evidence linking him to the case" .

by **Silentscope** 10.10.21 15:45

Silentscope Post #73 Refers: wrote:More recently, and even before Kate’s interrogation, during a telephone call between Gerald McCann and the undersigned, he made a reference regarding the investigation, that he was certain that the police did not have any proof that could incriminate them with regard to the death of Madeleine McCann and he said that the police were wasting their time in directing the investigation around the parents.

I bring this to your knowledge.

Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Processos Vol X
Pages 2533 - 2534

Service Information
Date: 2007/09/03
For : Goncalo Amaral

by **Jill Havern** 11.10.21 10:52

by **sharonl** 11.10.21 19:20

There is something very, very strange about this Brueckner thing and not only in the McCann case.

He is an obvious patsy for the McCann case, he was wrongly linked to the Inga Gherick case and now we hear that there was no rape. Another alleged victim described a tattoo that he never had.

What's going on? The whole investigation into Brueckner is as bizarre as the McCann case.

Why was he isolated and then moved?
Who entered his cell and took pictures?
Has he really drawn cartoons and written letters?

Sorry but there is something really odd going on here. Is he a willing patsy who will come out of this much better off, like Murat? Is he a target for a corrupt German police force?

thinking

Something is definitely amiss here

by Guest 11.10.21 19:34

Do the police in Portugal have the power, or the right, to tell the German police to keep out of this case? I don't understand how this allowed to go on.

by **sharonl** 11.10.21 19:53

CaKeLoveR wrote:Do the police in Portugal have the power, or the right, to tell the German police to keep out of this case? I don't understand how this allowed to go on.

But is it going on? There is nothing on BKA website and we have heard very little from Wolters, so where is all this coming from? It cam only be the media.

The German's do have Brueckner in jail and are investigating him for other crimes. A few months ago they told us that his release was imminent, what happened to that?

Anyway,

Whilst Brueckner is being investigated for other crimes, Jon Clarke visits his friends, the friends suddendly decide to come forward with claims of things Brueckner may have said. The BKA start looking into the possibility that Brückner may be involved with Madeleines' disappearance. Jon Clarke visits the investigators in Germany. Later, Clarke turns detective and visits Brueckners old factory, then its back to the BKA with a scissors that he says he found in one of Brueckner's vehicles. He talks to the BKA or Wolters and tells them that they missed it in their investigation. When asked if it was significant, he said it may have Madeleine's DNA on it. Needless to say, the investigators are not at all interested in Clarke or his evidence.

Clarke publishes his book hoping to make a fortune.

IMO, the BKA were led a wild goose chase and have woken up to the fact. I may wrong but when did we last hear directly from them? Maybe I have missed something?

by Guest 11.10.21 20:47

Yes, I think you are right. Also, why wait all this time, when in the very beginning, there was a huge reward for information, if Brueckner were really involved?

by **sharonl** 11.10.21 21:30

CaKeLoveR wrote:Yes, I think you are right. Also, why wait all this time, when in the very beginning, there was a huge reward for information, if Brueckner were really involved?

Good point.

by **Silentscope** 11.10.21 22:03

Busching used Brückner to get himself freed early in Greece from his Seven and a half year sentence for Human trafficking.

He made money with his story from either OG or the British Press.

Busching was well placed enough to know or have heard about Brückner being invited as a Witness by the BKA from his friends.

Even Manfred Seyfurth now agrees this can be the only logical reason, as if Busching and Tatschl really thought that Brückner was the abductor of Maddie they would not have gone into business with him.

And not sold him 5 Kg Haschich in Orgiva destined for Germany.

by **sharonl** 11.10.21 23:54

Just been reading that these two so called witnesses have been arrested on a number of occasions for migrant trafficking and drug smuggling. Is this correct?

by Guest 12.10.21 1:33

I truly can't believe why any of this nonsense is being taken on board, let alone taken seriously.

There is no official source, it's all taken from German tabloids about as reliable as the British tabloids.

If you're going to infiltrate a forum as an agent provocateur you need to be clever, there is nothing clever here, it's so transparent. The agenda is more blatant than Gerry McCann's posing pouch.

The method is very common. You join a community, engage yourself doing and saying all the right things to garner support. You gain popularity, get chummy, earn brownie points, and eventually coerce people into thinking you know more than you do, getting them onside to your way of thinking.

You take over.

Here the method is not even consistent, it swings from no way to every which way. One minute the culprit is guilty with a capital G, the next minute the culprit is a patsy with a capital P.

In short in this instance, keep the Christian Brueckner story line up front, at the top of the forum. Just as team McCann's defence battery have been doing for a very long time. Keeps the focus off the truth.

Devious but not clever.

Don't be blinded by false representation - it's all a distraction.
bignono

by **Silentscope** 12.10.21 9:37

sharonl wrote:Just been reading that these two so called witnesses have been arrested on a number of occasions for migrant trafficking and drug smuggling. Is this correct?

Yes, but there is a slightly different version in Helge B’s statement to OG, where he admits to being a ‘kleinkriminelle’ a small - time thief, but not a Human trafficker.

He picked up three dark skinned, French speaking men in Greece, and drove them over the border into Italy. He was stopped and questioned at the time, but then released. He thought that was the end of it. On his later return to Greece, he found he had been tried in his absence, and was sentenced to seven and a half years in Jail. For Human trafficking.

This may be the reason he wanted to produce his story to OG in Athens. To gain favour with the Greek Police, and maybe to be allowed out of Jail earlier than expected.

It is apparently not unusual for people to be released early, due to a decree that was made to help ease overcrowding in the Greek Jail system.

Herr Fülscher is not quite sure how Helge B got out so quickly.

But according to Manfred, he suddenly had lots of money.

by Guest 12.10.21 13:10

Madeleine McCann suspect was investigated in 2007, van forensically tested

Jun 4, 2020

Journalist Mark Saunokonoko says there are questions around why the German prisoner is being looked into again.

by **crusader** 12.10.21 13:16

So, the Germans are working with Scotland Yard but not Portugal, Scotland Yard are treating it as an abduction and the Germans are treating it as murder.

If Germany is working with Scotland Yard, why are they not sharing their evidence with them?

I can't see that happening, why would Scotland Yard be working with police who won't share the supposed evidence.

by **Silentscope** 12.10.21 13:29

They are not working WITH the Scotland Yard investigation.

The BKA and Wolters are working FOR them.

If they had just been duped, they would have realised it by now.

They have had as much access to the PJ files as Fülscher has.

by **crusader** 12.10.21 13:40

I see, I had the idea they were working together for some reason. If the BKA are working FOR Scotland Yard, why are they allowed to withhold evidence, still doesn't sound right.

by **Silentscope** 12.10.21 13:56

It is most certainly not…but there appears to be no Legal way of getting at the Information/ Evidence that Wolters claims he has.

Fülscher has lodged more than one Application to see the Prosecution files on Brückner.

Wolters has unfortunately more leverage.

by **sharonl** 12.10.21 18:35

Fake news reports set aside, what exactly have Wolters or BKA said? Is there anything on BKA website in relation to Madeleine McCann? Do we have any TV interviews where we can hear their claims first hand? I know we saw one video with Wolters, how good is his English? Did someone give him a script to read from that he didn't really understand?

Even Op Grange have said very little, it's all media hype.

by **Silentscope** 12.10.21 19:21

Here is the English version of the Official BKA website.

https://www.bka.de/DE/IhreSicherheit/Fahndungen/Personen/BekanntePersonen/43_Jaehriger_Deutscher_TV/Sachverhalt_englisch.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=4

There are plenty of English interviews with Wolters, but I find the most revealing ones to be Sandra Felgeuiras interviews on Sexta às 9.
She asks the questions in English, but he answers in German. Subtitles are in Spanish and Portuguese.

But mostly you will hear the phrases, ‘I cannot say, I am not allowed to say, I cannot confirm or deny’ when the right questions are asked.

Wolters English is not fantastic unfortunately.

by Guest 13.10.21 1:40

All this stuff being posted-up on this thread is not from an official source, it's taken from the British and German media, primarily tabloid press and social media commentary.

This is the primary source of information being brought to this forum, for anyone interested in the life and times of a Christian Breuckner..

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/madeleine-mccann-german-prisoner-identified-as-suspect.525638/

Here is a translation of a press release emanating from Germany in June 2020..

Press

No. 3/20 Hans Christian Wolters

Press office

Tournament Street 1, 38100 Braunschweig

Tel .: (0531) 488-1178

Fax: (0531) 488-1111

Investigation into Madeleine "Maddie" McCann

In connection with the disappearance of the then 3-year-old British girl
Madeleine Beth McCann on May 3rd, 2007 from an apartment complex in Praia da Luz in
Portugal is investigating the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office against a 43-year-old German
Nationals on suspicion of murder.

The accused is a sex offender with multiple criminal records,
who has been convicted of child sexual abuse, among other things.

The accused is currently serving a longer prison term in another matter.

The accused lived regularly in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007, among others
for a few years in a house between Lagos and Praia da Luz. According to here present
During this time he lost several odd jobs in the Lagos area
others in gastronomy, according to.

Further evidence suggests that he made a living from the
Committing criminal offenses, including burglary in hotel complexes and
Vacation rentals as well as drug trafficking denied.

The Braunschweig public prosecutor is involved in the investigation because the accused
had his last place of residence in the local district before his stay abroad.

As part of the investigations carried out on behalf of the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office by the
Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) in close cooperation with the Metropolitan
Police / Great Britain as well as the Polícia Judiciária / Portugal will now also be carried out
publicly asked for help from the population. A corresponding call to witness with
further information can be found on the website of the Federal Criminal Police Office.

In view of the ongoing investigations, no more can be done at this point in time
Information on the matter, in particular no further details on the specific
Allegations and the results of the investigation to date are communicated.

Braunschweig public prosecutor's office
06/03/2020

No. 3/20 Hans Christian Wolters

Press office

Tournament Street 1, 38100 Braunschweig

Tel .: (0531) 488-1178

Fax: (0531) 488-1111

www.staatsanwaltschaft-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de

Hans Christian Wolters

First prosecutor

Spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office

by Guest 13.10.21 1:42

Sandra Felgueiras/Hans Christian Wolters interview..

https://www.rtp.pt/noticias/mundo/suspeito-do-caso-maddie-investigado-por-abuso-sexual-de-outra-crianca-no-algarve_v1256662

https://twitter.com/JoanaAMorais/status/1274090668474982400

by **Silentscope** 13.10.21 12:58

The flow of information available all traces backwards to the lips of Helge Busching.

Whether he was Rewarded or Paid to come up with the Rape Video story is the Question.
It was the BKA that asked the PJ for any information on any unsolved Crimes fitting Brückner's profile.
They appear to be doing the same around Europe.

It was the BKA that flew out to America to interview the Rape victim, Diana M, and take her Statement. Did the PJ test the Hair found on her bed? or did they like in Madeleine's case just hand the Hair over and hope the BKA would be truthful with the results? Brückner contested he has blonde hair, not red.

Did the PJ perhaps give the BKA a piece of Dummy Evidence to see what would happen? Does Amaral KNOW whose Hair was found in the Evidence locker? The PJ already know whose DNA is on the spare bed in 5A, which is why they refused to let it be re-tested. It would have given the BKA Jurisdiction over the case.

Amaral knows there was no Rape according to the illegible and not therefore translated PJ Medical report. I do hope his Book, out today - will reveal more.

by Guest 13.10.21 13:24

Well well well! That's yet another mixed bag of random authoritative insistence @Silentscope.

Do you have inside information about this case within Portugal, the UK and Germany .... do tell!

Over the past months most of your information has come by way of the media, for the most part the German tabloid - 'Bild', Germany's equivalent to the UK's 'The Sun' which suggests to me you don't have inside information.

Who in their right mind would rely on tabloids for knowledge or a better understanding of anything.

That aside, a lot of your observations presented on this forum are factually incorrect. It doesn't take much effort to check facts by referencing official documentation before commenting on any particular point.

by **Silentscope** 13.10.21 14:47

Please disprove away Verdi, I have no problem with any Official or real insider documentation you may have.

Any copies of German documents I have access to I have already passed on via PM to German speaking members.

They will know.

by Guest 13.10.21 15:45

Silentscope wrote:Please disprove away Verdi, I have no problem with any Official or real insider documentation you may have.

Any copies of German documents I have access to I have already passed on via PM to German speaking members.

They will know.

It is not me posting information with assumed authority that can't be verified - it is you.

I do however have a problem with your performance on this forum, you still haven't grasped the mechanics even though I've tried over and over again to guide you. I advise, CMOMM is not a private members club it is not a secret service, it is an open forum where members share their comments, questions, observations etc by posting on the 'open forum'.

If your preference is a German speaking platform where you can privately share information with fellow German speakers then you are in the wrong place, I can only suggest you start-up your own forum/blog or join an existing German speaking platform - if you haven't already. As I'm sure I've said before - on more than one occasion.

CMOMM is a community with a shared goal, aside from the odd troublemakers which are dealt with accordingly as and when, that shared goal is justice in the name of Madeleine McCann. It is not a platform for you to share information with a select few in private - either you are on board or not.

If not, let me know and I will take the matter in hand.

On this point, I notice you continue to abuse the forum's private messaging facility, as I notice you wait for me to log-out before by-passing or replying to my posts.

Deceit is very ugly.

Please don't put me in this position - again!

by **Silentscope** 13.10.21 19:41

I would ask the Forum owner to remove the above reference to the SS.
I am not a Nazi.

Thank you.

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