Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

Does Mr Wolters really say all these contradictory things, or is some of it either simply lost in translation or deliberately misreported?
Someone in his position shouldn't be making themselves look a complete fool like this.

Going after a man who didn't commit this particular crime, or has even been questioned by the police, is enough to make himself look a complete fool.

Quite.

Whichever way you spin it, Wolters is the face behind the Brueckner mask. Evidenced by his appearance on camera, more than one occasion.



He's in it up to his eyeballs. Still, every man has his price and maybe he thinks himself untouchable.

I was rather hoping Dr Amaral's forthcoming book (only three days away) would rid us of the name Christian Brueckner once and for all but alas, I guess that's too much to wish for.

The media and all concerned are over-playing but at the same time under-stating, Dr Amaral's brief reference to his officers calling on the property said to have been occupied by Brueckner at the time but 'he was out'. A deliberate act of deception in my view.

It's gone on long enough, Brueckner is an irrelevance.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/

SICK BOAST Madeleine McCann chief suspect sneers cops ‘will never find a shred of evidence’ to link him to disappearance

Holly Christodoulou

12:17, 10 Oct 2021Updated: 13:16, 10 Oct 2021

THE prime suspect in Madeleine McCann's disappearance sneered as he told cops they won't find a "shred of evidence" linking him to the case.

German police began probing Christian B, 44, in 2019 and said they had "concrete evidence" the missing youngster was dead.

Investigators are now said to be "100 per cent convinced" the convicted paedo is the man responsible.

But Christian B has taunted prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters, who claims to have enough evidence to charge the rapist, and claims he is "bluffing".

Sources close to the German told The Sun Online: "B and his legal team remain sure Wolters and his investigators don’t have a shred of evidence to convict him on or charge him over.

"Their position has always been clear: if there is evidence, show it. But the police never have. That’s why they are convinced these comments are a bluff designed to get B to crack behind bars and confess to someone. That will never happen.

"B believes Wolters is simply a celebrity cop looking to make headlines.”

Christian B is currently serving a seven-year sentence for raping an American tourist in Portugal in 2006.

Prosecutors are using the time to gather as much evidence as possible before taking it to court.

Part of the evidence being probed by cops includes an alleged "confession" made by Christian B to a friend.

They are also investigating phone data showing he was at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz when Madeleine disappeared in 2007.

Wolters told the Mirror: "It is now possible that we could charge. We have that evidence now.

“But it’s not just about charging him – we want to charge him with the best body of evidence possible.

“When we still have questions, it would be nonsense to charge rather than wait for the answers that could strengthen our position.

“That’s why we said we’ll investigate as long as there are leads or information for us to pursue."
PRIME SUSPECT

Investigators identified Christian B as the prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance last year.

He was first thrust into the frame in 2017 after allegedly confessing to abducting Madeleine in a bar.

The pervert was living in his campervan in Praia da Luz in 2007 and used his phone outside a nearby club just 30 minutes before Madeleine vanished.

Last year, German cops sensationally revealed they believe Madeleine is dead and know how she was killed.

But prosecutors have no proof Madeleine is dead, with no DNA or photo evidence linking the sex offender to her disappearance.

And British police are still treating her disappearance as a missing person case.

Wolters told the outlet: "It is circumstantial evidence – we have no scientific evidence.

"I personally think a conclusion will be reached next year. We have no body and no DNA but we have other evidence. Based on the evidence we have, it leads to no other conclusion."
'IN THE DARK'

It comes after Madeleine's parents said they believe the prime suspect in their daughter’s disappearance will keep trying to evade justice and fear they may never know who snatched her.

A McCann family source told The Sun Online: “Police don’t tell us what’s going on, we’re in the dark because it's an ongoing investigation.

“But if it is him, and there’s no direct and conclusive evidence he may never say a word. He’s not saying a word now.

“He’s locked up for other crimes, so at least he’s in the best place - in jail.

“Portuguese police had looked at him before and last year they looked at him again. We don't know what this means but without a confession we may never know.

“We don't know what evidence police have.

“It may be, sadly, that we may never know what happened to Madeleine. But we hope to find out. We keep hoping after all these years.”

Prosecutors are using the time to gather as much evidence as possible before taking it to court.

Part of the evidence being probed by cops includes an alleged "confession" made by Christian B to a friend.

They are also investigating phone data showing he was at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz when Madeleine disappeared in 2007.

Wolters told the Mirror: "It is now possible that we could charge. We have that evidence now.

“But it’s not just about charging him – we want to charge him with the best body of evidence possible.

“When we still have questions, it would be nonsense to charge rather than wait for the answers that could strengthen our position.

“That’s why we said we’ll investigate as long as there are leads or information for us to pursue."
PRIME SUSPECT

Investigators identified Christian B as the prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance last year.

He was first thrust into the frame in 2017 after allegedly confessing to abducting Madeleine in a bar.

The pervert was living in his campervan in Praia da Luz in 2007 and used his phone outside a nearby club just 30 minutes before Madeleine vanished.

Last year, German cops sensationally revealed they believe Madeleine is dead and know how she was killed.

But prosecutors have no proof Madeleine is dead, with no DNA or photo evidence linking the sex offender to her disappearance.

And British police are still treating her disappearance as a missing person case.

Wolters told the outlet: "It is circumstantial evidence – we have no scientific evidence.

"I personally think a conclusion will be reached next year. We have no body and no DNA but we have other evidence. Based on the evidence we have, it leads to no other conclusion."
'IN THE DARK'

It comes after Madeleine's parents said they believe the prime suspect in their daughter’s disappearance will keep trying to evade justice and fear they may never know who snatched her.

A McCann family source told The Sun Online: “Police don’t tell us what’s going on, we’re in the dark because it's an ongoing investigation.

“But if it is him, and there’s no direct and conclusive evidence he may never say a word. He’s not saying a word now.

“He’s locked up for other crimes, so at least he’s in the best place - in jail.

“Portuguese police had looked at him before and last year they looked at him again. We don't know what this means but without a confession we may never know.

“We don't know what evidence police have.

“It may be, sadly, that we may never know what happened to Madeleine. But we hope to find out. We keep hoping after all these years.”



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16378589/madeleine-mccann-suspect-no-evidence/

Strange how the tabloids persistently infer Manfredman to be a key witness in the downfall in the name of Christian Brueckner.

I wouldn't trust him to look after my grandmother and she died many years ago.

The Sun wrote:SICK BOAST Madeleine McCann chief suspect sneers cops ‘will never find a shred of evidence’ to link him to disappearance

Why sick? Why a boast? Why a sneer?

If the cops haven't interviewed him yet, how can he sickly boast and sneer at them?

Who is he sickly boasting and sneering before?

Madeleine McCann chief suspect sneers at cops ....

Spot on !

They're 'f****ng tossers' for trying to do their jobs. If only the McCann's had done theirs, Madeleine would be here.

Oh bliss!

This is just like the old heady days of yesteryear - Sunday cornflakes with the McCanns.

Didn't Gerry say something about there being no evidence to connect them to Madeleine's death.

That's another thing they have in common.

 Brueckner supposedly said "They won't find a shred of evidence linking him to the case" .

There is something very, very strange about this Brueckner thing and not only in the McCann case.

He is an obvious patsy for the McCann case, he was wrongly linked to the Inga Gherick case and now we hear that there was no rape.  Another alleged victim described a tattoo that he never had.

What's going on?  The whole investigation into Brueckner is as bizarre as the McCann case.

Why was he isolated and then moved?
Who entered his cell and took pictures?
Has he really drawn cartoons and written letters?

Sorry but there is something really odd going on here. Is he a willing patsy who will come out of this much better off, like Murat?  Is he a target for a corrupt German police force?

  Something is definitely amiss here

Do the police in Portugal have the power, or the right, to tell the German police to keep out of this case? I don't understand how this allowed to go on.

CaKeLoveR wrote:Do the police in Portugal have the power, or the right, to tell the German police to keep out of this case? I don't understand how this allowed to go on.

But is it going on?  There is nothing on BKA website and we have heard very little from Wolters, so where is all this coming from?  It cam only be the media.

The German's do have Brueckner in jail and are investigating him for other crimes.  A few months ago they told us that his release was imminent, what happened to that?

Anyway,

Whilst Brueckner is being investigated for other crimes, Jon Clarke visits his friends, the friends suddendly decide to come forward with claims of things Brueckner may have said.  The BKA start looking into the possibility that Brückner may be involved with Madeleines' disappearance.  Jon Clarke visits the investigators in Germany.  Later, Clarke turns detective and visits Brueckners old factory, then its back to the BKA with a scissors that he says he found in one of Brueckner's vehicles.  He talks to the BKA or Wolters and tells them that they missed it in their investigation.  When asked if it was significant, he said it may have Madeleine's DNA on it.  Needless to say, the investigators are not at all interested in Clarke or his evidence.

Clarke publishes his book hoping to make a fortune.

IMO, the BKA were led a wild goose chase and have woken up to the fact.  I may wrong but when did we last hear directly from them?  Maybe I have missed something?

Yes, I think you are right. Also, why wait all this time, when in the very beginning, there was a huge reward for information, if Brueckner were really involved?

CaKeLoveR wrote:Yes, I think you are right. Also, why wait all this time, when in the very beginning, there was a huge reward for information, if Brueckner were really involved?

Good point.

Busching used Brückner to get himself freed early in Greece from his Seven and a half year sentence for Human trafficking.

He made money with his story from either OG or the British Press.

Busching was well placed enough to know or have heard about Brückner being invited as a Witness by the BKA from his friends.

Even Manfred Seyfurth now agrees this can be the only logical reason, as if Busching and Tatschl really thought that Brückner was the abductor of Maddie they would not have gone into business with him.

And not sold him 5 Kg Haschich in Orgiva destined for Germany.

Just been reading that these two so called witnesses have been arrested on a number of occasions for migrant trafficking and drug smuggling. Is this correct?

I truly can't believe why any of this nonsense is being taken on board, let alone taken seriously.

There is no official source, it's all taken from German tabloids about as reliable as the British tabloids.
 
If you're going to infiltrate a forum as an agent provocateur you need to be clever, there is nothing clever here, it's so transparent.  The agenda is more blatant than Gerry McCann's posing pouch.

The method is very common.  You join a community, engage yourself doing and saying all the right things to garner support.  You gain popularity, get chummy, earn brownie points, and eventually coerce people into thinking you know more than you do, getting them onside to your way of thinking.

You take over.

Here the method is not even consistent, it swings from no way to every which way. One minute the culprit is guilty with a capital G, the next minute the culprit is a patsy with a capital P.

In short in this instance, keep the Christian Brueckner story line up front, at the top of the forum.  Just as team McCann's defence battery have been doing for a very long time.  Keeps the focus off the truth.

Devious but not clever.

Don't be blinded by false representation - it's all a distraction.

sharonl wrote:Just been reading that these two so called witnesses have been arrested on a number of occasions for migrant trafficking and drug smuggling.  Is this correct?

Yes, but there is a slightly different version in Helge B’s statement to OG, where he admits to being a ‘kleinkriminelle’ a small - time thief, but not a Human trafficker. 

He picked up three dark skinned, French speaking men in Greece, and drove them over the border into Italy. He was stopped and questioned at the time, but then released. He thought that was the end of it. On his later return to Greece, he found he had been tried in his absence, and was sentenced to seven and a half years in Jail. For Human trafficking.

This may be the reason he wanted to produce his story to OG in Athens. To gain favour with the Greek Police, and maybe to be allowed out of Jail earlier than expected.

It is apparently not unusual for people to be released early, due to a decree that was made to help ease overcrowding in the Greek Jail system.

Herr Fülscher is not quite sure how Helge B got out so quickly. 

But according to Manfred, he suddenly had lots of money.

Madeleine McCann suspect was investigated in 2007, van forensically tested

Jun 4, 2020



Journalist Mark Saunokonoko says there are questions around why the German prisoner is being looked into again.

So, the Germans are working with Scotland Yard but not Portugal, Scotland Yard are treating it as an abduction and the Germans are treating it as murder.

If Germany is working with Scotland Yard, why are they not sharing their evidence with them?

I can't see that happening, why would Scotland Yard be working with police who won't share the supposed evidence.

They are not working WITH the Scotland Yard investigation.

The BKA and Wolters are working FOR them.

If they had just been duped, they would have realised it by now.

They have had as much access to the PJ files as Fülscher has.

I see, I had the idea they were working together for some reason. If the BKA are working FOR Scotland Yard, why are they allowed to withhold evidence, still doesn't sound right.

It is most certainly not…but there appears to be no Legal way of getting at the Information/ Evidence that Wolters claims he has.

Fülscher has lodged more than one Application to see the Prosecution files on Brückner. 

Wolters has unfortunately more leverage.

Fake news reports set aside, what exactly have Wolters or BKA said? Is there anything on BKA website in relation to Madeleine McCann? Do we have any TV interviews where we can hear their claims first hand? I know we saw one video with Wolters, how good is his English? Did someone give him a script to read from that he didn't really understand?

Even Op Grange have said very little, it's all media hype.

Here is the English version of the Official BKA website.

https://www.bka.de/DE/IhreSicherheit/Fahndungen/Personen/BekanntePersonen/43_Jaehriger_Deutscher_TV/Sachverhalt_englisch.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=4

There are plenty of English interviews with Wolters, but I find the most revealing ones to be Sandra Felgeuiras interviews on Sexta às 9.
She asks the questions in English, but he answers in German. Subtitles are in Spanish and Portuguese.

But mostly you will hear the phrases, ‘I cannot say, I am not allowed to say, I cannot confirm or deny’ when the right questions are asked.

Wolters English is not fantastic unfortunately.

All this stuff being posted-up on this thread is not from an official source, it's taken from the British and German media, primarily tabloid press and social media commentary.

This is the primary source of information being brought to this forum, for anyone interested in the life and times of a Christian Breuckner..

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/madeleine-mccann-german-prisoner-identified-as-suspect.525638/

Here is a translation of a press release emanating from Germany in June 2020..

Press

No. 3/20 Hans Christian Wolters

Press office

Tournament Street 1, 38100 Braunschweig

Tel .: (0531) 488-1178

Fax: (0531) 488-1111

Investigation into Madeleine "Maddie" McCann

In connection with the disappearance of the then 3-year-old British girl
Madeleine Beth McCann on May 3rd, 2007 from an apartment complex in Praia da Luz in
Portugal is investigating the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office against a 43-year-old German
Nationals on suspicion of murder.

The accused is a sex offender with multiple criminal records,
who has been convicted of child sexual abuse, among other things.

The accused is currently serving a longer prison term in another matter.

The accused lived regularly in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007, among others
for a few years in a house between Lagos and Praia da Luz. According to here present
During this time he lost several odd jobs in the Lagos area
others in gastronomy, according to.

Further evidence suggests that he made a living from the
Committing criminal offenses, including burglary in hotel complexes and
Vacation rentals as well as drug trafficking denied.

The Braunschweig public prosecutor is involved in the investigation because the accused
had his last place of residence in the local district before his stay abroad.

As part of the investigations carried out on behalf of the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office by the
Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) in close cooperation with the Metropolitan
Police / Great Britain as well as the Polícia Judiciária / Portugal will now also be carried out
publicly asked for help from the population. A corresponding call to witness with
further information can be found on the website of the Federal Criminal Police Office.

In view of the ongoing investigations, no more can be done at this point in time
Information on the matter, in particular no further details on the specific
Allegations and the results of the investigation to date are communicated.

Braunschweig public prosecutor's office
06/03/2020

No. 3/20 Hans Christian Wolters

Press office

Tournament Street 1, 38100 Braunschweig

Tel .: (0531) 488-1178

Fax: (0531) 488-1111

www.staatsanwaltschaft-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de

Hans Christian Wolters

First prosecutor

Spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office

Sandra Felgueiras/Hans Christian Wolters interview..

https://www.rtp.pt/noticias/mundo/suspeito-do-caso-maddie-investigado-por-abuso-sexual-de-outra-crianca-no-algarve_v1256662

https://twitter.com/JoanaAMorais/status/1274090668474982400