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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 11.05.21 17:44
They're self obsessed, vain, shallow, and will do or say anything at all for their fifteen minutes. They are of a particular age group.
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 11.05.21 22:55
It falls straight into the McCanns hands - more ammunition for the 'troll' roll.
It reflects very badly on decent folk whose only concern is the disappearance of a little three year old girl who has been so badly let down by her own family and the authorities.
A thorough disgrace to humanity. Stupid stupid children, such behaviour doesn't warrant adult.
It reflects very badly on decent folk whose only concern is the disappearance of a little three year old girl who has been so badly let down by her own family and the authorities.
A thorough disgrace to humanity. Stupid stupid children, such behaviour doesn't warrant adult.
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 12.05.21 13:58
Madeleine McCann: A timeline of the investigation into the British girl’s disappearance
Child vanished from Portuguese holiday resort 14 years ago and never found but emergence of new suspect last year has brought fresh hope of answers and closure
Joe Sommerlad 4 hours ago
This Wednesday should have seen Leicester schoolgirl Madeleine McCann turn 18 and celebrate the milestone with her family and friends, a bright future of infinite possibilities lying before her.
Instead, she remains one of the most famous missing people in the world, her disappearance from the Portuguese holiday resort of Praia da Luz on the Algarve on 3 May 2007 still unsolved after 14 years of investigation and still the subject of intense interest among the public and press.
Her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, recently posted a statement on the Find Madeleine website marking the upcoming birthday by reiterating their hope of being reunited with their long-lost daughter.
“Every May is tough - a reminder of years passed, of years together lost, or stolen,” they wrote. “This year it is particularly poignant as we should be celebrating Madeleine’s 18th birthday. Enough said.
“We hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again. As we have said repeatedly, we need to know what has happened to our lovely daughter, no matter what. We are very grateful to the police for their continued efforts.”
Here’s a reminder of the events of the case, a year after the emergence of a new suspect in Germany revived the prospect of the mystery finally being solved.
The story began when the McCanns - affluent doctors Kate and Gerry, their three-year-old daughter Madeleine and her two-year-old twin siblings - joined a group of seven family friends and their five children on holiday at the Ocean Club in the village of Praia da Luz on the south western tip of Portugal on 28 April 2007.
After a pleasant spring break by the sea, the adults in the party went out for dinner at the resort’s open-air tapas bar on 3 May, gathering at 8.30pm. The children were left behind sleeping in their respective apartments with the doors unlocked and a rota system in place among the parents to ensure that someone returned every half-hour to check on them.
When Kate McCann took her turn and returned to her apartment at 10pm, she raced back to the restaurant screaming “Madeleine’s gone! Someone’s taken her!” The police were quickly called and 60 staff and fellow guests searched the complex, calling out the girl’s name in vain until daybreak the following morning.
Border police and airport staff were put on alert and hundreds of volunteers joined the efforts to find the missing girl over the coming days, the case fast becoming a sensation.
The Portuguese authorities would later attract criticism over their conduct in the crucial earliest hours of the investigation when the trail might still have been warm, accused of making rudimentary mistakes like failing to conduct a house-by-house search of every local residence or interview all of the other guests at the resort, acting slowly to erect roadblocks and potentially compromising forensic evidence at the crime scene through carelessness and incaution.
The police initially stated that they believed Madeleine was still alive and had been abducted from the room by a stranger as the parents described their “anguish and despair” over her vanishing, a worst fear realised for any parent.
On 26 May, police issued a description of a suspicious man seen on the night of the girl’s disappearance. The individual in question was spotted by Jane Tanner, one of the McCanns’ dining companions, who said she had seen a Mediterranean man with dark hair and beige trousers carrying a child close to the apartment when she went to check in on her own children. Scotland Yard would later come to dismiss the sighting as a red herring.
The search continued as the summer progressed amid a wild media circus and with huge fundraising activities underway, the McCanns setting up Madeleine’s Fund on 15 May to raise cash to support further investigation and keep the profile of the case high, attracting generous donations from celebrities like Richard Branson, Simon Cowell, JK Rowling and Coleen Rooney. By 30 May, the case was such a cause celebre that they were being flown out to meet the Pope at the Vatican in Sir Phillip Green’s Learjet.
A local man, Robert Murat, subsequently became its first suspect and had his house and car searched, his swimming pool drained and his electronic devices confiscated but no evidence was found to link him to Madeleine and the matter was soon dropped.
By June, the Portuguese police admitted that they had failed to protect potentially useful evidence at the scene as frustration with the lack of developments grew and the media began to question whether the McCanns themselves had been involved in the matter.
Lurid tabloid allegations suggested the couple and their friends might have been swingers and that the McCanns, as physicians, might have been in the habit of sedating their children, while others claimed inconsistencies in their version of events.
The intensity of the hostility towards the parents would later be described by Roy Greenslade of The Guardian as “no journalistic accident, but a sustained campaign of vitriol against a grief-stricken family”, singling out The Daily Express and Daily Star for particular condemnation.
In July, assistance offered by former South African police officer Danie Krugel - who claimed his handheld “matter orientation system” could help to find Madeleine - was rubbished, while British police sent over two springer spaniel sniffer dogs to search for DNA.
Relations with the local authorities would ultimately sour as the latter came to resent British intrusion into a Portuguese inquiry, according to Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan’s book Looking for Madeleine (2014).
By August, Madeleine has been missing for 100 days and police admitted for the first time that she may never be found. They also told the McCanns that they were no longer considering the matter an abduction case but, rather, a murder inquiry.
The McCanns themselves were interviewed as “arguidos” (suspects) by Portuguese police in September, with the parents told that the dogs had discovered DNA evidence from the missing girl in the boot of their holiday rental car, lines of inquiry that had already been leaked to the British press. They vehemently denied having any part in her disappearance.
Despite being listed as suspects (a designation that would linger until the following July), the McCanns were allowed to return to Britain on 9 September. A day later, chief inspector Tavares de Almeida of the Policia Judiciaria in Portimao signed a nine-page report concluding that Madeleine McCann had died in their apartment as a result of an accident, that the tapas dinner and rota checks on the McCann children had been part of a planned cover-up, that the family’s friends had helped to mislead the police and that the McCanns had concealed the body and then faked an abduction. A public prosecutor subsequently applied for the confiscation of Kate McCann’s diary and Gerry McCann’s laptop plus the group’s phone records.
On 2 October, chief inspector Goncalo Amaral was removed from the case and transferred after alleging that the British police were only interested in pursuing leads favourable to the McCanns. He would later publish a book, Maddie: The Truth of the Lie, the following summer, resulting in a lengthy libel battle with the McCanns that would run back and forth through the courts until March 2017.
Back in Britain, Gerry McCann issued a video that November in which he speculated that his family had been watched by a “predator” during their stay at Praia da Luz. His wife had come to believe that a potential perpetrator could have seen a note in the resort’s guest book visible to all in reception noting their dining arrangements on the evening of Madeleine’s disappearance. The couple followed up on 20 January 2008 by releasing a sketch of a “creepy man” they said other holidaymakers had said they had seen loitering at the Ocean Club.
In April, a month before the one-year anniversary of the fateful night, Portuguese police travelled to Leicestershire to conduct further interviews with the McCanns’ friends.
Then, on 21 July, Portugal’s attorney general, Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro, announced that there was no evidence to link either the McCanns or Robert Murat to the disappearance and closed the case, unsolved.
With the trail cold and no closure in sight, the McCanns continued to publicise their cause, issuing computer-generated images of how Madeleine might look now that she had aged on 3 November 2009 and condemning the release of previously unseen Portuguese police files - detailing possible sightings of their daughter - to British newspapers in March 2010.
The McCanns published a book of their own about their ordeal in May 2011, entitled simply Madeleine, which was serialised in The Sun as the newspaper led a campaign calling on British prime minister David Cameron to launch a new inquiry. He did so.
Commenced by home secretary Theresa May, the Metropolitan Police’s Operation Grange would be led by commander Simon Foy and comprise a team of three detective inspectors, five detective sergeants, 19 detective constables and six civilian staff.
It began to yield results in 2013, with Scotland Yard formally announcing a new investigation in July and saying in October it had identified 41 potential suspects. That same month, BBC Crimewatch released an e-fit image of a man of particular interest who had been seen in Praia da Luz with a child matching Madeleine’s description in May 2007.
Detectives arrived in Portugal in January 2014 promising new arrests and finally searched the village in June, interviewing four people the following month but without unearthing new information. The quartet would be definitively ruled out in April 2017, before the UK government said it would continue to fund the investigation until 2020, having already admitted it had cost £10m in its first four years of operation.
That investment had enabled detectives to have tens of thousands of documents translated, investigate over 8,000 potential sightings, take 1,338 statements, collect 1,027 exhibits and investigate 650 sex offenders and 60 persons of interest, all without definitively establishing the truth.
The Madeline McCann case lay dormant before suddenly exploding into life in June 2020 when German media revealed that Christian Brueckner, a 43-year-old prisoner with a track record of child abuse and drug trafficking, had been identified as a new suspect by the public prosecutor of the German city of Braunschweig.
He had reportedly been living in a Volkswagen camper van in the Algarve at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance and one woman has since come forward to suggest she saw a girl that might have been Madeleine speaking German in a supermarket in Portugal in 2017.
German investigators classified their probe into his movements as a murder inquiry, saying they are working on the assumption that Madeleine is dead and reporting last July that they had found an abandoned cellar beneath his former allotment near Hanover where she could, theoretically, have been held captive.
Hans Christian Wolters, the prosecutor leading the investigation into Brueckner, has said he is “very confident” the inmate is responsible for kidnapping her.
“If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can’t give you details because we don’t want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations,” he told the BBC last December.
It was recently revealed that Madeleine’s Fund still had £773,629 to spend as of 31 March 2020, meaning the McCanns can continue to bankroll a private investigation to find their daughter long after the police hunt is finally drawn to a close, should they choose to.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-news-missing-latest-b1844976.html
I don't usually bother with comments because they are invariably from the same source of McCann critics and/or supporters. I'll make an exception on this occasion..
Child vanished from Portuguese holiday resort 14 years ago and never found but emergence of new suspect last year has brought fresh hope of answers and closure
Joe Sommerlad 4 hours ago
This Wednesday should have seen Leicester schoolgirl Madeleine McCann turn 18 and celebrate the milestone with her family and friends, a bright future of infinite possibilities lying before her.
Instead, she remains one of the most famous missing people in the world, her disappearance from the Portuguese holiday resort of Praia da Luz on the Algarve on 3 May 2007 still unsolved after 14 years of investigation and still the subject of intense interest among the public and press.
Her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, recently posted a statement on the Find Madeleine website marking the upcoming birthday by reiterating their hope of being reunited with their long-lost daughter.
“Every May is tough - a reminder of years passed, of years together lost, or stolen,” they wrote. “This year it is particularly poignant as we should be celebrating Madeleine’s 18th birthday. Enough said.
“We hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again. As we have said repeatedly, we need to know what has happened to our lovely daughter, no matter what. We are very grateful to the police for their continued efforts.”
Here’s a reminder of the events of the case, a year after the emergence of a new suspect in Germany revived the prospect of the mystery finally being solved.
The story began when the McCanns - affluent doctors Kate and Gerry, their three-year-old daughter Madeleine and her two-year-old twin siblings - joined a group of seven family friends and their five children on holiday at the Ocean Club in the village of Praia da Luz on the south western tip of Portugal on 28 April 2007.
After a pleasant spring break by the sea, the adults in the party went out for dinner at the resort’s open-air tapas bar on 3 May, gathering at 8.30pm. The children were left behind sleeping in their respective apartments with the doors unlocked and a rota system in place among the parents to ensure that someone returned every half-hour to check on them.
When Kate McCann took her turn and returned to her apartment at 10pm, she raced back to the restaurant screaming “Madeleine’s gone! Someone’s taken her!” The police were quickly called and 60 staff and fellow guests searched the complex, calling out the girl’s name in vain until daybreak the following morning.
Border police and airport staff were put on alert and hundreds of volunteers joined the efforts to find the missing girl over the coming days, the case fast becoming a sensation.
The Portuguese authorities would later attract criticism over their conduct in the crucial earliest hours of the investigation when the trail might still have been warm, accused of making rudimentary mistakes like failing to conduct a house-by-house search of every local residence or interview all of the other guests at the resort, acting slowly to erect roadblocks and potentially compromising forensic evidence at the crime scene through carelessness and incaution.
The police initially stated that they believed Madeleine was still alive and had been abducted from the room by a stranger as the parents described their “anguish and despair” over her vanishing, a worst fear realised for any parent.
On 26 May, police issued a description of a suspicious man seen on the night of the girl’s disappearance. The individual in question was spotted by Jane Tanner, one of the McCanns’ dining companions, who said she had seen a Mediterranean man with dark hair and beige trousers carrying a child close to the apartment when she went to check in on her own children. Scotland Yard would later come to dismiss the sighting as a red herring.
The search continued as the summer progressed amid a wild media circus and with huge fundraising activities underway, the McCanns setting up Madeleine’s Fund on 15 May to raise cash to support further investigation and keep the profile of the case high, attracting generous donations from celebrities like Richard Branson, Simon Cowell, JK Rowling and Coleen Rooney. By 30 May, the case was such a cause celebre that they were being flown out to meet the Pope at the Vatican in Sir Phillip Green’s Learjet.
A local man, Robert Murat, subsequently became its first suspect and had his house and car searched, his swimming pool drained and his electronic devices confiscated but no evidence was found to link him to Madeleine and the matter was soon dropped.
By June, the Portuguese police admitted that they had failed to protect potentially useful evidence at the scene as frustration with the lack of developments grew and the media began to question whether the McCanns themselves had been involved in the matter.
Lurid tabloid allegations suggested the couple and their friends might have been swingers and that the McCanns, as physicians, might have been in the habit of sedating their children, while others claimed inconsistencies in their version of events.
The intensity of the hostility towards the parents would later be described by Roy Greenslade of The Guardian as “no journalistic accident, but a sustained campaign of vitriol against a grief-stricken family”, singling out The Daily Express and Daily Star for particular condemnation.
In July, assistance offered by former South African police officer Danie Krugel - who claimed his handheld “matter orientation system” could help to find Madeleine - was rubbished, while British police sent over two springer spaniel sniffer dogs to search for DNA.
Relations with the local authorities would ultimately sour as the latter came to resent British intrusion into a Portuguese inquiry, according to Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan’s book Looking for Madeleine (2014).
By August, Madeleine has been missing for 100 days and police admitted for the first time that she may never be found. They also told the McCanns that they were no longer considering the matter an abduction case but, rather, a murder inquiry.
The McCanns themselves were interviewed as “arguidos” (suspects) by Portuguese police in September, with the parents told that the dogs had discovered DNA evidence from the missing girl in the boot of their holiday rental car, lines of inquiry that had already been leaked to the British press. They vehemently denied having any part in her disappearance.
Despite being listed as suspects (a designation that would linger until the following July), the McCanns were allowed to return to Britain on 9 September. A day later, chief inspector Tavares de Almeida of the Policia Judiciaria in Portimao signed a nine-page report concluding that Madeleine McCann had died in their apartment as a result of an accident, that the tapas dinner and rota checks on the McCann children had been part of a planned cover-up, that the family’s friends had helped to mislead the police and that the McCanns had concealed the body and then faked an abduction. A public prosecutor subsequently applied for the confiscation of Kate McCann’s diary and Gerry McCann’s laptop plus the group’s phone records.
On 2 October, chief inspector Goncalo Amaral was removed from the case and transferred after alleging that the British police were only interested in pursuing leads favourable to the McCanns. He would later publish a book, Maddie: The Truth of the Lie, the following summer, resulting in a lengthy libel battle with the McCanns that would run back and forth through the courts until March 2017.
Back in Britain, Gerry McCann issued a video that November in which he speculated that his family had been watched by a “predator” during their stay at Praia da Luz. His wife had come to believe that a potential perpetrator could have seen a note in the resort’s guest book visible to all in reception noting their dining arrangements on the evening of Madeleine’s disappearance. The couple followed up on 20 January 2008 by releasing a sketch of a “creepy man” they said other holidaymakers had said they had seen loitering at the Ocean Club.
In April, a month before the one-year anniversary of the fateful night, Portuguese police travelled to Leicestershire to conduct further interviews with the McCanns’ friends.
Then, on 21 July, Portugal’s attorney general, Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro, announced that there was no evidence to link either the McCanns or Robert Murat to the disappearance and closed the case, unsolved.
With the trail cold and no closure in sight, the McCanns continued to publicise their cause, issuing computer-generated images of how Madeleine might look now that she had aged on 3 November 2009 and condemning the release of previously unseen Portuguese police files - detailing possible sightings of their daughter - to British newspapers in March 2010.
The McCanns published a book of their own about their ordeal in May 2011, entitled simply Madeleine, which was serialised in The Sun as the newspaper led a campaign calling on British prime minister David Cameron to launch a new inquiry. He did so.
Commenced by home secretary Theresa May, the Metropolitan Police’s Operation Grange would be led by commander Simon Foy and comprise a team of three detective inspectors, five detective sergeants, 19 detective constables and six civilian staff.
It began to yield results in 2013, with Scotland Yard formally announcing a new investigation in July and saying in October it had identified 41 potential suspects. That same month, BBC Crimewatch released an e-fit image of a man of particular interest who had been seen in Praia da Luz with a child matching Madeleine’s description in May 2007.
Detectives arrived in Portugal in January 2014 promising new arrests and finally searched the village in June, interviewing four people the following month but without unearthing new information. The quartet would be definitively ruled out in April 2017, before the UK government said it would continue to fund the investigation until 2020, having already admitted it had cost £10m in its first four years of operation.
That investment had enabled detectives to have tens of thousands of documents translated, investigate over 8,000 potential sightings, take 1,338 statements, collect 1,027 exhibits and investigate 650 sex offenders and 60 persons of interest, all without definitively establishing the truth.
The Madeline McCann case lay dormant before suddenly exploding into life in June 2020 when German media revealed that Christian Brueckner, a 43-year-old prisoner with a track record of child abuse and drug trafficking, had been identified as a new suspect by the public prosecutor of the German city of Braunschweig.
He had reportedly been living in a Volkswagen camper van in the Algarve at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance and one woman has since come forward to suggest she saw a girl that might have been Madeleine speaking German in a supermarket in Portugal in 2017.
German investigators classified their probe into his movements as a murder inquiry, saying they are working on the assumption that Madeleine is dead and reporting last July that they had found an abandoned cellar beneath his former allotment near Hanover where she could, theoretically, have been held captive.
Hans Christian Wolters, the prosecutor leading the investigation into Brueckner, has said he is “very confident” the inmate is responsible for kidnapping her.
“If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can’t give you details because we don’t want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations,” he told the BBC last December.
It was recently revealed that Madeleine’s Fund still had £773,629 to spend as of 31 March 2020, meaning the McCanns can continue to bankroll a private investigation to find their daughter long after the police hunt is finally drawn to a close, should they choose to.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-news-missing-latest-b1844976.html
I don't usually bother with comments because they are invariably from the same source of McCann critics and/or supporters. I'll make an exception on this occasion..
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 12.05.21 14:07
Fact check ^^^
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Idle spiteful commentary not helpful.
Helpful to the parents yes but not Madeleine McCann!
Shame on you Mr Independence! For your edification - build (not Bild) on it..
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Idle spiteful commentary not helpful.
Helpful to the parents yes but not Madeleine McCann!
Shame on you Mr Independence! For your edification - build (not Bild) on it..
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 12.05.21 22:51
Madeleine McCann parents' 18th birthday message as they leave gifts in untouched room
Kate and Gerry McCann still leave gifts and cards in Madeleine's untouched bedroom and, on her 18th birthday today told their daughter 'we love you and are waiting for you'
ByMartin Fricker
21:18, 12 MAY 2021
Madeleine McCann’s parents vowed on her 18th birthday today: “We’re never going to give up”.
Kate and Gerry McCann still hope she will be found alive, 14 years after she vanished on holiday in Portugal in 2007, days before her fourth birthday.
They said in a poignant message: “We love you and are waiting for you.”
Devoted Kate and Gerry marked daughter Madeleine’s 18th birthday on Wednesday by leaving cards and gifts in her room, untouched since she vanished 14 years ago.
The couple posted a photo of her on the Find Madeleine campaign Facebook page, writing alongside it: “Happy 18th birthday Madeleine.
“We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.”
Kate, 53, and Gerry, 52, had asked pals to mark the day in a low-key manner.
The Facebook post came a week after they marked the “particularly poignant” 14th anniversary of her disappearance.
Madeleine went missing from her family’s holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
Prosecutors want to question German paedophile Christian Brueckner over her disappearance and claim to have evidence that she is dead.
But Kate and Gerry, 53, of Rothley, Leics, refuse to give up hope that Madeleine is still alive and will one day be found.
In another post on the Find Madeleine page last week they said they “need to know what happened to our lovely daughter”.
Scotland Yard’s hunt for Madeleine’s abductor continues, with four detectives still working on Operation Grange.
A top-level summit between German, British and Portuguese detectives is due to take place in Lisbon this summer.
The Mirror revealed in January that cops are launching a push to find the “missing piece of the jigsaw” that could snare Brueckner.
German and Portuguese investigators are to carry out new interviews of key witnesses in the Algarve who knew him.
Brueckner, 44, was named as the prime suspect for Madeleine’s disappearance by German prosecutors last June.
They believe he abducted and killed the three-year-old.
He is currently serving a seven-year term in a prison in Hanover for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz in 2005.
His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher insists the German has nothing to do with the youngster’s disappearance.
Last week the couple posted on Facebook: “Every May is tough – a reminder of years passed, of years together lost, or stolen.
This year it is particularly poignant as we should be celebrating Madeleine’s 18th birthday. Enough said.
“The Covid pandemic has made this year even more difficult for many reasons but thankfully the investigation to find Madeleine and her abductor has continued.
“We hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again.
“As we have said repeatedly, we need to know what has happened to our lovely daughter, no matter what.
“We are very grateful to the police for their continued efforts.
“We still receive so many positive words and good wishes despite the years that have gone by.
“It all helps and for that we are truly grateful – thank you. Kate and Gerry.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-18th-birthday-24096738
Kate and Gerry McCann still leave gifts and cards in Madeleine's untouched bedroom and, on her 18th birthday today told their daughter 'we love you and are waiting for you'
ByMartin Fricker
21:18, 12 MAY 2021
Madeleine McCann’s parents vowed on her 18th birthday today: “We’re never going to give up”.
Kate and Gerry McCann still hope she will be found alive, 14 years after she vanished on holiday in Portugal in 2007, days before her fourth birthday.
They said in a poignant message: “We love you and are waiting for you.”
Devoted Kate and Gerry marked daughter Madeleine’s 18th birthday on Wednesday by leaving cards and gifts in her room, untouched since she vanished 14 years ago.
The couple posted a photo of her on the Find Madeleine campaign Facebook page, writing alongside it: “Happy 18th birthday Madeleine.
“We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.”
Kate, 53, and Gerry, 52, had asked pals to mark the day in a low-key manner.
The Facebook post came a week after they marked the “particularly poignant” 14th anniversary of her disappearance.
Madeleine went missing from her family’s holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
Prosecutors want to question German paedophile Christian Brueckner over her disappearance and claim to have evidence that she is dead.
But Kate and Gerry, 53, of Rothley, Leics, refuse to give up hope that Madeleine is still alive and will one day be found.
In another post on the Find Madeleine page last week they said they “need to know what happened to our lovely daughter”.
Scotland Yard’s hunt for Madeleine’s abductor continues, with four detectives still working on Operation Grange.
A top-level summit between German, British and Portuguese detectives is due to take place in Lisbon this summer.
The Mirror revealed in January that cops are launching a push to find the “missing piece of the jigsaw” that could snare Brueckner.
German and Portuguese investigators are to carry out new interviews of key witnesses in the Algarve who knew him.
Brueckner, 44, was named as the prime suspect for Madeleine’s disappearance by German prosecutors last June.
They believe he abducted and killed the three-year-old.
He is currently serving a seven-year term in a prison in Hanover for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz in 2005.
His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher insists the German has nothing to do with the youngster’s disappearance.
Last week the couple posted on Facebook: “Every May is tough – a reminder of years passed, of years together lost, or stolen.
This year it is particularly poignant as we should be celebrating Madeleine’s 18th birthday. Enough said.
“The Covid pandemic has made this year even more difficult for many reasons but thankfully the investigation to find Madeleine and her abductor has continued.
“We hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again.
“As we have said repeatedly, we need to know what has happened to our lovely daughter, no matter what.
“We are very grateful to the police for their continued efforts.
“We still receive so many positive words and good wishes despite the years that have gone by.
“It all helps and for that we are truly grateful – thank you. Kate and Gerry.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-18th-birthday-24096738
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 13.05.21 2:08
When did Madeleine McCann go missing? A timeline of what happened as family marks her 18th birthday
The three-year-old disappeared from a holiday apartment in Portugal in 2007, sparking one of the most famous missing persons cases in history
Madeleine McCann’s parents have said they will spend her 18th birthday today hanging onto the hope they will one day see her again.
The three-year-old disappeared from a holiday apartment in Portugal back in 2007, sparking one of the most famous missing persons cases in history.
Parents Kate and Gerry posted online: “This year it is particularly poignant as we should be celebrating Madeleine’s 18th birthday.
“As we have said repeatedly, we need to know what has happened to our lovely daughter, no matter what.
“We are very grateful to the police for their continued efforts. We hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again.”
Madeleine McCann – a timeline
The day she went missing
Madeleine went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve on 3 May 2007. This is what happened on that day:
7.30am: Madeleine asks her parents at breakfast why they had not been in the apartment when she woke up and cried the night before. Kate and Gerry McCann make a mental note to constantly check their children are settled when they go for a meal later that night. The family spend time around the pool during the day and the children go to a kids’ club while Gerry and Kate have a tennis lesson.
3.30 – 5.30pm: There are four separate sightings of bogus charity collectors in Praia da Luz. E-fits of two Portuguese men are later issued by police. One man approaches a property on the Rua do Ramalhete, near the Ocean Club.
4pm: A man is seen near the 5A apartment the McCanns were staying in. According to witnesses, he is white, has blondish fair hair, described as being quite close-shaven, and is aged between 30-35 years old.
5 – 6pm: Kate gets the children ready for bed while Gerry goes to play tennis again.
7pm: Gerry returns and Madeleine is read a bedtime story. The twins are put in a travel cot next to Madeleine’s bed.
7.32 – 8.02pm: The current lead suspect in the case, Christian Brueckner, is known to have received a phone call in the area of Praia da Luz from a person who was not in the area. The caller is described by German police as a “key witness”.
8.30pm: With Madeleine and their twins asleep, Kate and Gerry leave apartment 5A at the Ocean Club resort and go to a tapas restaurant 100 yards away in the resort’s grounds to eat with a group of seven friends.
9.05pm: Gerry returns to the apartment. He sees all three children fast asleep before returning to the restaurant. On the way back he stops to chat to a guest.
9.15pm: Another parent in the group, Jane Tanner, walks past the McCanns’ apartment as she checks on her own children. She sees a man carrying a child near the McCanns’ apartment. In 2013, police disregard the sighting after a British holidaymaker says it was him carrying his own daughter from a crèche.
9.30pm: Matthew Oldfield, a friend eating with the couple at the tapas bar, offers to check on the McCanns’ children as he checks his own in the apartment next door. Hearing no noise from the children’s bedroom, he assumed all was fine and left without seeing Madeleine.
10pm: An Irish family returning from a night out see a man carrying a blonde-haired child, aged about three or four, possibly wearing pyjamas walking down a street towards the beach a few minutes’ walk from the McCanns’ apartment.
Kate McCann returns to the apartment and discovers that Madeleine is missing. The bedroom window is open and the shutter raised. Police are called and 60 staff and guests search the complex for Madeleine until daybreak.
What has happened since?
The search for Madeleine has been ongoing for 14 years, with the Metropolitan Police continuing to treat her disappearance as a missing persons inquiry.
The inquiry – known as Operation Grange – launched in 2011 and has cost more than £11 million to date.
Brueckner, the prime suspect, was regularly living in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007.
He was identified in June last year, and is currently serving time in prison in Germany for drug smuggling and rape.
The McCanns themselves were made suspects by the Portuguese police shortly after Madeleine’s disappearance, partly due to a misinterpretation of DNA evidence.
Their suspect status was lifted in July 2008 due to a lack of evidence, but not after they suffered baseless accusations of their guilt, particularly in the tabloid press. The McCanns received damages from Express Newspapers in 2008
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/madeleine-mccann-missing-when-what-happened-timeline-investigation-18th-birthday-family-997640
The three-year-old disappeared from a holiday apartment in Portugal in 2007, sparking one of the most famous missing persons cases in history
Madeleine McCann’s parents have said they will spend her 18th birthday today hanging onto the hope they will one day see her again.
The three-year-old disappeared from a holiday apartment in Portugal back in 2007, sparking one of the most famous missing persons cases in history.
Parents Kate and Gerry posted online: “This year it is particularly poignant as we should be celebrating Madeleine’s 18th birthday.
“As we have said repeatedly, we need to know what has happened to our lovely daughter, no matter what.
“We are very grateful to the police for their continued efforts. We hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again.”
Madeleine McCann – a timeline
The day she went missing
Madeleine went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve on 3 May 2007. This is what happened on that day:
7.30am: Madeleine asks her parents at breakfast why they had not been in the apartment when she woke up and cried the night before. Kate and Gerry McCann make a mental note to constantly check their children are settled when they go for a meal later that night. The family spend time around the pool during the day and the children go to a kids’ club while Gerry and Kate have a tennis lesson.
3.30 – 5.30pm: There are four separate sightings of bogus charity collectors in Praia da Luz. E-fits of two Portuguese men are later issued by police. One man approaches a property on the Rua do Ramalhete, near the Ocean Club.
4pm: A man is seen near the 5A apartment the McCanns were staying in. According to witnesses, he is white, has blondish fair hair, described as being quite close-shaven, and is aged between 30-35 years old.
5 – 6pm: Kate gets the children ready for bed while Gerry goes to play tennis again.
7pm: Gerry returns and Madeleine is read a bedtime story. The twins are put in a travel cot next to Madeleine’s bed.
7.32 – 8.02pm: The current lead suspect in the case, Christian Brueckner, is known to have received a phone call in the area of Praia da Luz from a person who was not in the area. The caller is described by German police as a “key witness”.
8.30pm: With Madeleine and their twins asleep, Kate and Gerry leave apartment 5A at the Ocean Club resort and go to a tapas restaurant 100 yards away in the resort’s grounds to eat with a group of seven friends.
9.05pm: Gerry returns to the apartment. He sees all three children fast asleep before returning to the restaurant. On the way back he stops to chat to a guest.
9.15pm: Another parent in the group, Jane Tanner, walks past the McCanns’ apartment as she checks on her own children. She sees a man carrying a child near the McCanns’ apartment. In 2013, police disregard the sighting after a British holidaymaker says it was him carrying his own daughter from a crèche.
9.30pm: Matthew Oldfield, a friend eating with the couple at the tapas bar, offers to check on the McCanns’ children as he checks his own in the apartment next door. Hearing no noise from the children’s bedroom, he assumed all was fine and left without seeing Madeleine.
10pm: An Irish family returning from a night out see a man carrying a blonde-haired child, aged about three or four, possibly wearing pyjamas walking down a street towards the beach a few minutes’ walk from the McCanns’ apartment.
Kate McCann returns to the apartment and discovers that Madeleine is missing. The bedroom window is open and the shutter raised. Police are called and 60 staff and guests search the complex for Madeleine until daybreak.
What has happened since?
The search for Madeleine has been ongoing for 14 years, with the Metropolitan Police continuing to treat her disappearance as a missing persons inquiry.
The inquiry – known as Operation Grange – launched in 2011 and has cost more than £11 million to date.
Brueckner, the prime suspect, was regularly living in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007.
He was identified in June last year, and is currently serving time in prison in Germany for drug smuggling and rape.
The McCanns themselves were made suspects by the Portuguese police shortly after Madeleine’s disappearance, partly due to a misinterpretation of DNA evidence.
Their suspect status was lifted in July 2008 due to a lack of evidence, but not after they suffered baseless accusations of their guilt, particularly in the tabloid press. The McCanns received damages from Express Newspapers in 2008
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/madeleine-mccann-missing-when-what-happened-timeline-investigation-18th-birthday-family-997640
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Poignant message for Madeleine McCann on her 18th birthday
“We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.
The campaign group keeping the memory of missing Madeleine McCann alive has vowed it is “never going to give up” its search as it marked her 18th birthday.
The well-known image of Madeleine in a pink sun hat was posted on the Official Find Madeleine Campaign Facebook group with the words “Happy 18th Birthday Madeleine!”
It was captioned: “We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.”
https://www.kentlive.news/news/uk-world-news/poignant-message-madeleine-mccann-18th-5407866
“We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.
The campaign group keeping the memory of missing Madeleine McCann alive has vowed it is “never going to give up” its search as it marked her 18th birthday.
The well-known image of Madeleine in a pink sun hat was posted on the Official Find Madeleine Campaign Facebook group with the words “Happy 18th Birthday Madeleine!”
It was captioned: “We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.”
https://www.kentlive.news/news/uk-world-news/poignant-message-madeleine-mccann-18th-5407866
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by PeterMac 13.05.21 6:54
Meanwhile a Group dedicated to investigating the circumstances of Madeleine's disappearance have vowed
"We're never going to give up"
"We're never going to give up"
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9573237/Police-probing-Madeleine-McCann-case-dramatic-new-evidence-against-Christian-Brueckner.html
"German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has now revealed that new evidence has been gathered in recent days, though he declined to reveal specifics.
He told the Sun: 'We are still building the case and at some time in the future we shall share the details with the suspect and his lawyer — but now is not the time.
'I cannot disclose the type of evidence we have been given, it is not forensic I can tell you that but it is new circumstantial evidence which all adds to the working theory that he is the man responsible.
'We have always insisted that the man we identified as the main suspect is the man we believe committed the crime and we are not looking for anyone else. I am optimistic that we will solve this case.'
Authorities hope to be in a position to charge Brueckner by the end of the summer, with a reconstruction soon due to take place in the Praia da Luz resort following a tip-off from a key witness.
A RECONSTRUCTION ? ? ? ?
That could be interesting
"German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has now revealed that new evidence has been gathered in recent days, though he declined to reveal specifics.
He told the Sun: 'We are still building the case and at some time in the future we shall share the details with the suspect and his lawyer — but now is not the time.
'I cannot disclose the type of evidence we have been given, it is not forensic I can tell you that but it is new circumstantial evidence which all adds to the working theory that he is the man responsible.
'We have always insisted that the man we identified as the main suspect is the man we believe committed the crime and we are not looking for anyone else. I am optimistic that we will solve this case.'
Authorities hope to be in a position to charge Brueckner by the end of the summer, with a reconstruction soon due to take place in the Praia da Luz resort following a tip-off from a key witness.
A RECONSTRUCTION ? ? ? ?
That could be interesting
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by Ladyinred 13.05.21 7:05
HAPPY 18th Birthday, Madeleine!
Are they serious?
Are they serious?
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by Guest 13.05.21 7:29
Have they forgotten 'it won't be a one year anniversary, it will be sooner than that'?
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by Silentscope 13.05.21 9:39
Strange that only the British Press report these fantastically well timed ‘new pieces of evidence’ that have arrived in the past few days.
The German press make no mention of Herr Wolters or any evidence at all...
A new picture of Madeleine as she could look like aged 18 has been generated, here is the link.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.rtl.de/cms/verschwundene-madeleine-mccann-waere-jetzt-18-jahre-alt-so-koennte-sie-aussehen-4758491.html%3FoutputType%3Damp&prev=search&pto=aue
The German press make no mention of Herr Wolters or any evidence at all...
A new picture of Madeleine as she could look like aged 18 has been generated, here is the link.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.rtl.de/cms/verschwundene-madeleine-mccann-waere-jetzt-18-jahre-alt-so-koennte-sie-aussehen-4758491.html%3FoutputType%3Damp&prev=search&pto=aue
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by Jill Havern 13.05.21 9:51
May 13, 2021 - 9:15 a.m.
Missing Maddie McCann's 18th birthday
May 12, 2021 could actually have been a day full of joy, laughter and party atmosphere if the lives of Kate and Gerry McCann had been different. It's her daughter Madeleine's 18th birthday. The British girl disappeared from a vacation apartment in Portugal in 2007. To this day, there is no trace of Maddie, but the parents have not given up hope that their child is still alive. What would Madeleine McCann look like today? Content creator Marco Kolditz created a picture on the computer that shows how the girl could have developed in the 14 years of her disappearance. In the RTL interview, he explains how the picture came about.
Mother's picture is the basis for 18 year old Maddie
The basis for the morphed photo of the 18-year-olds was a picture of her mother, as Kolditz from "Sea of Ideas" explains in an RTL interview. He "worked backwards" so to speak, explains the content creator. He rejuvenated Kate McCann and then slowly moved it towards Madeleine. He chose this approach because he had relatively little footage of the missing girl available. "I didn't want to use foreign material," explains Kolditz, which is why he only used pictures of Maddie and her parents.
"The challenge is always that the components fit together well," he explained after editing the image. For the artificial image of Maddie, he added the girl's eyes and other characteristic features to the mother's face. "It looks pretty scary while you're editing," says the content creator. "The eyes are the most difficult thing," he knows. "You always have to be careful that it looks natural." To artificially age a child's photo of Maddie would have looked much more unnatural from his point of view.
The content creator used this photo of Maddie's mother, Kate McCann, as a basis.
:copyright: Image processing: Marco Kolditz, "Sea of Ideas"
How Maddie has changed in 14 years is difficult to say
"Proportions change over the course of life," he explains. Over time, the facial features of an adult emerge from a round child's face with large eyes. That's why he took a close look at the external characteristics of Maddie's parents. For example, both would have a relatively angular face shape and narrow lips. From the very narrow nose of Kate McCann, he made a slightly wider snub nose, as can be seen in photos of Garry and three-year-old Maddie. He also made the eyebrows a little thicker.
Similar to a passport photo, he decided on a relatively neutral facial expression for the morphed Maddie. "Facial expressions are very individual," explains Kolditz. If he had made the young woman smile, that could seriously distort the picture. "You can't really say whether this is close to reality," says the content creator. Because there are other factors: Maddie could be overweight or underweight, she could also have cut or dyed her hair. How a person develops in 14 years is very individual and depends on the living conditions.
Police created a picture of what Maddie could have looked like when she was nine years old
The British police created an artificial picture about five years after Maddie's disappearance, which shows what a Madeleine about nine years old could have looked like. The McCanns still show the picture on their homepage "Find Madeleine" in the hope that someone could recognize their daughter.
"Every May is hard - a reminder of how many years have passed, how many years together have been lost or stolen," said the McCanns in an emotional statement on the anniversary of their daughter's disappearance. "This year is particularly painful because we should celebrate Madeleine's 18th birthday." But they would continue to cling to the hope of seeing their child again one day.
Kate and Gerry McCann use an artificially created photo to find their daughter Maddie.
:copyright: dpa, John Stillwell, ihe sab
Maddie McCann disappeared from a resort in Portugal
The then three-year-old Madeleine "Maddie" McCann disappeared on May 3, 2007 from a holiday complex in Praia da Luz, Portugal . Several searches by Portuguese and British investigators were unsuccessful. The case continued to garner worldwide attention through campaigns Maddie's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, launched to find their daughter.
At the beginning of June 2020, German investigators then turned to the public. In order to find new witnesses and clues, they made public that they had Christian B. in their sights. He is suspected of kidnapping and murdering Maddie at the time.
TVNOW documentary: The Maddie case - do you finally have the right one?
Does the police finally have the right suspect this time? Can the case finally be resolved? You can see more about this in the TVNOW documentary "The Maddie case - have you finally got the right one?" .
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by PeterMac 14.05.21 6:14
VITAL NEW EXPERT DISCOVERED
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-only-hope-24090479
Madeleine McCann detectives' 'only hope' of cracking case is 'confession from suspect'
EXCLUSIVE: German police have been investigating Christian Brueckner and carrying out searches of his former properties, but have so far only provided circumstantial evidence tying him to Madeleine McCann's disappearance
The only way Madeleine McCann detectives will crack the case is through a confession from the prime suspect, a former police officer has claimed.
...
Ex-chief inspector Mick Neville, who founded the Met Police’s Central Forensic Image Team in 2012, believes officers are just hoping for a confession from Brueckner.
He told the Daily Star: “If there’s any [evidence] worthy of charging him, we would have known about it by now.
“There’s nothing, there’s no tangible evidence whatsoever connecting him to the crime.
“He’s a reasonable suspect, given he’s looking at child pornography and the fact we know we know he was in the area with a vehicle but that’s about it really.”
...
Mr Neville believes one of the fundamental issues in the investigation is the interpretation of “concrete evidence”.
He previously said: “The German prosecutor has stated several times that he has concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead.
“But the meaning has been lost in translation. In English the phrase means ‘irrefutable’ but in German it means ‘reasonable suspicion’ or ‘more than a rumour’.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-only-hope-24090479
Madeleine McCann detectives' 'only hope' of cracking case is 'confession from suspect'
EXCLUSIVE: German police have been investigating Christian Brueckner and carrying out searches of his former properties, but have so far only provided circumstantial evidence tying him to Madeleine McCann's disappearance
The only way Madeleine McCann detectives will crack the case is through a confession from the prime suspect, a former police officer has claimed.
...
Ex-chief inspector Mick Neville, who founded the Met Police’s Central Forensic Image Team in 2012, believes officers are just hoping for a confession from Brueckner.
He told the Daily Star: “If there’s any [evidence] worthy of charging him, we would have known about it by now.
“There’s nothing, there’s no tangible evidence whatsoever connecting him to the crime.
“He’s a reasonable suspect, given he’s looking at child pornography and the fact we know we know he was in the area with a vehicle but that’s about it really.”
...
Mr Neville believes one of the fundamental issues in the investigation is the interpretation of “concrete evidence”.
He previously said: “The German prosecutor has stated several times that he has concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead.
“But the meaning has been lost in translation. In English the phrase means ‘irrefutable’ but in German it means ‘reasonable suspicion’ or ‘more than a rumour’.
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by AnneBarnard 17.05.21 23:11
Verdi wrote:Madeleine McCann parents' 18th birthday message as they leave gifts in untouched room
Kate and Gerry McCann still leave gifts and cards in Madeleine's untouched bedroom and, on her 18th birthday today told their daughter 'we love you and are waiting for you'
ByMartin Fricker
21:18, 12 MAY 2021
Madeleine McCann’s parents vowed on her 18th birthday today: “We’re never going to give up”.
Kate and Gerry McCann still hope she will be found alive, 14 years after she vanished on holiday in Portugal in 2007, days before her fourth birthday.
They said in a poignant message: “We love you and are waiting for you.”
Devoted Kate and Gerry marked daughter Madeleine’s 18th birthday on Wednesday by leaving cards and gifts in her room, untouched since she vanished 14 years ago.
The couple posted a photo of her on the Find Madeleine campaign Facebook page, writing alongside it: “Happy 18th birthday Madeleine.
“We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.”
Kate, 53, and Gerry, 52, had asked pals to mark the day in a low-key manner.
The Facebook post came a week after they marked the “particularly poignant” 14th anniversary of her disappearance.
Madeleine went missing from her family’s holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
Prosecutors want to question German paedophile Christian Brueckner over her disappearance and claim to have evidence that she is dead.
But Kate and Gerry, 53, of Rothley, Leics, refuse to give up hope that Madeleine is still alive and will one day be found.
Well this is clearly taking it's toll on Gerry - he's aged a year just within the article!
the mirror wrote:Kate, 53, and Gerry, 52, had asked pals to mark the day in a low-key manner.
The Facebook post came a week after they marked the “particularly poignant” 14th anniversary of her disappearance.
Madeleine went missing from her family’s holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
Prosecutors want to question German paedophile Christian Brueckner over her disappearance and claim to have evidence that she is dead.
But Kate and Gerry, 53, of Rothley, Leics, refuse to give up hope that Madeleine is still alive and will one day be found.
I find it utterly bizarre that this 'Christian B' nonsense is still going, I really thought it would have faded discreetly by now. But the prospect of a reconstruction, as mentioned upthread, is very interesting indeed. I wonder what will come of that, if anything.
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by Guest 18.05.21 0:57
AnneBarnard wrote:
I find it utterly bizarre that this 'Christian B' nonsense is still going, I really thought it would have faded discreetly by now. But the prospect of a reconstruction, as mentioned upthread, is very interesting indeed. I wonder what will come of that, if anything.
A reconstruction of what exactly?
The Discovery+ mockuplenty or the adventures of Rin Tin Brueckner, the elusive master criminal extraordinaire? Now you see him now you don't?
Now let me guess
Manfred Seyferth the star witness!As you say - should be interesting, as and when
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by AnneBarnard 24.05.21 20:51
Verdi wrote:AnneBarnard wrote:
I find it utterly bizarre that this 'Christian B' nonsense is still going, I really thought it would have faded discreetly by now. But the prospect of a reconstruction, as mentioned upthread, is very interesting indeed. I wonder what will come of that, if anything.
A reconstruction of what exactly?
The Discovery+ mockuplenty or the adventures of Rin Tin Brueckner, the elusive master criminal extraordinaire? Now you see him now you don't?
Now let me guess
As you say - should be interesting, as and when
Well, it could be a reconstruction of Kate and Gerry falling to their knees and weeping. Or of them meticulously searching all night long.
The possibilities are endless, really.
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by sharonl 25.05.21 0:02
AnneBarnard wrote:
I find it utterly bizarre that this 'Christian B' nonsense is still going, I really thought it would have faded discreetly by now. But the prospect of a reconstruction, as mentioned upthread, is very interesting indeed. I wonder what will come of that, if anything.
Let me guessMaybe -
"Dozens of holidays makers who were in PDL at the time, identify chief suspect CB and contact the Sun following a reconstruction of the night that Madeleine was abducted from her bed in May 2007 whilst her parents ate at the local tapas bar just yards away".
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by PeterMac 25.05.21 8:34
Any reconstruction would have to deal with the hour between 9pm and 10pm 3/5/7
It would require at least 4 men and 2 women to take the roles of GM, JW, MO, ROB, JT and KM
They have to start from a seated position in the Tapas bar and then in turn follow the script they
ALL agreed on, walking at a normal place out of the Pool area, through the 'Reception', up the road,
round the corner, along to the car park entrance, across the car park to their apartments,
unlock the door, enter, go into the bedroom, spend a finite and reasonable time there,
use the facilities in the usual manner, exit, return across the car park, along the road, turn right past
Apartment 5A, – entering if so indicated on the Stage directions – returning then via the "reception'
building then into the Tapas bar, and resume their position at the communal table.
Only then, after a sensible period of time has elapsed, will the next on the caste list stand, make the appropriate
small talk before performing her or his own role.
The entire event should be timed, and a full video recording made.
All 10 movements must be accomplished within the 50 minutes specified in the script.
[Small wonder the Tapas 7 refused to have anything to do with any such idea]
It would require at least 4 men and 2 women to take the roles of GM, JW, MO, ROB, JT and KM
They have to start from a seated position in the Tapas bar and then in turn follow the script they
ALL agreed on, walking at a normal place out of the Pool area, through the 'Reception', up the road,
round the corner, along to the car park entrance, across the car park to their apartments,
unlock the door, enter, go into the bedroom, spend a finite and reasonable time there,
use the facilities in the usual manner, exit, return across the car park, along the road, turn right past
Apartment 5A, – entering if so indicated on the Stage directions – returning then via the "reception'
building then into the Tapas bar, and resume their position at the communal table.
Only then, after a sensible period of time has elapsed, will the next on the caste list stand, make the appropriate
small talk before performing her or his own role.
The entire event should be timed, and a full video recording made.
All 10 movements must be accomplished within the 50 minutes specified in the script.
[Small wonder the Tapas 7 refused to have anything to do with any such idea]
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by Guest 25.05.21 8:45
I don't understand why a mock-up of this palaver wasn't carried out in a field, or somewhere large enough, at the time?
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by sharonl 25.05.21 18:48
A second reconstruction may prove interesting, between 5pm and 7pmStarting with the kids being collected from the creche, to high tea, back to the apartment and then to Paynes visit.
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by Silentscope 25.05.21 20:15
Followed by a quick jog down to the Churchyard past the Smith family?
Wearing the same trousers described by Aoife?
— His trousers were smooth "rights" along the legs, beige in colour, cotton fabric, thicker than linen, possibly with buttons, and without any other decoration.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
Wearing the same trousers described by Aoife?
— His trousers were smooth "rights" along the legs, beige in colour, cotton fabric, thicker than linen, possibly with buttons, and without any other decoration.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
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by sharonl 25.05.21 21:29
There may be a problem there, with what the child was wearing
She also had a light top, with long sleeves. She did not see it well because the individual had his arms around the child. She is not sure if the child's top was the same colour as her trousers, saying only that it was very light. The fabric was the same as the trousers.
She also had a light top, with long sleeves. She did not see it well because the individual had his arms around the child. She is not sure if the child's top was the same colour as her trousers, saying only that it was very light. The fabric was the same as the trousers.
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by Silentscope 25.05.21 22:14
Maybe if the Eeyore Pyjamas were not Abducted as suspected, the Child wore something else?
Long sleeved Barbie Pyjamas for instance…?
Someone knows.
Long sleeved Barbie Pyjamas for instance…?
Someone knows.
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 26.05.21 1:50
Or maybe a reconstruction starting at the groups arrival at the Ocean Club on Saturday 28th April 2007. I believe that's where it all began. It's those missing days that hold the key, the days activities that have never been accounted for.
The main witness statements need to be ironed-out so to speak. Early days the PJ were conducting a routine police investigation, with little or no knowledge of the background. The group shouted abduction from the rooftops so abduction it was - at least until Friday 4th May 2007 when circumstances started to look suspicious.
The initial statements taken on 4th May and then the second round of statements taken on 10th/11th May (interestingly excluding Kate McCann (too traumatised - apparently) and the Paynes), were vague. Not surprising at that stage of the investigation. Only later, Friday 4th May, did the cracks start to appear but reinforcements in the form of McCann support were quick to jump to their rescue. The rest as they say, is history.
Here the Foreign and Commonwealth Office seriously need to be investigated. The British diplomatic corps stationed in Portugal at the time, went way and beyond the call of duty - what they did was illegal under the circumstances.
The rogatory interviews conducted by Leicester police one year later, were at the bequest of the McCanns themselves, character witnesses it would appear. What hope was there of any revelation - certainly not when the blanket cover-up was already well and truly established.,
To believe the witness statements of the Smith family, you need to believe the abduction theory. To believe the witness statement of Aoife Smith, you need to believe Gerry McCann was carrying the corps of his baby daughter through the streets of Luz on the night of Thursday 3rd May 2007.
The scenario negates twelve years of hard graft here on CMOMM.
Why go backwards when we should be moving forwards.
This forum alone is a comprehensive study of all things Madeleine McCann case related. It's a good idea to explore the forum before making trite random comments on the say so of .... well, who know who?
We are not here to score brownie points.
The main witness statements need to be ironed-out so to speak. Early days the PJ were conducting a routine police investigation, with little or no knowledge of the background. The group shouted abduction from the rooftops so abduction it was - at least until Friday 4th May 2007 when circumstances started to look suspicious.
The initial statements taken on 4th May and then the second round of statements taken on 10th/11th May (interestingly excluding Kate McCann (too traumatised - apparently) and the Paynes), were vague. Not surprising at that stage of the investigation. Only later, Friday 4th May, did the cracks start to appear but reinforcements in the form of McCann support were quick to jump to their rescue. The rest as they say, is history.
Here the Foreign and Commonwealth Office seriously need to be investigated. The British diplomatic corps stationed in Portugal at the time, went way and beyond the call of duty - what they did was illegal under the circumstances.
The rogatory interviews conducted by Leicester police one year later, were at the bequest of the McCanns themselves, character witnesses it would appear. What hope was there of any revelation - certainly not when the blanket cover-up was already well and truly established.,
To believe the witness statements of the Smith family, you need to believe the abduction theory. To believe the witness statement of Aoife Smith, you need to believe Gerry McCann was carrying the corps of his baby daughter through the streets of Luz on the night of Thursday 3rd May 2007.
The scenario negates twelve years of hard graft here on CMOMM.
Why go backwards when we should be moving forwards.
This forum alone is a comprehensive study of all things Madeleine McCann case related. It's a good idea to explore the forum before making trite random comments on the say so of .... well, who know who?
We are not here to score brownie points.
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by PeterMac 26.05.21 7:03
Reconstructions are only done to test (=destroy) witnesses' allegations.
No self-respecting lawyer would permit their clients to take part.
No self-respecting lawyer would permit their clients to take part.
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Silentscope 26.05.21 9:32
Keeping an open mind and not trying to move backwards…
1. The style of all the deception carried out so far by ‘team McCann’ suggests to me that all their lies are based on facts or subject matter known to them. The following still have to be resolved.
2. Did Aoife really see those trousers in the street?
3. Or did someone tell her what to say?
4. Why were the Smiths the only ones to notice?
5.if Smithman was Gerry, and he knew some English speaking people had seen him, why would he not change into jeans when he got back, and change the description of the Child with it?
6. If the Child died earlier why did the Smiths not notice a stiff Corpse? They thought she was asleep.
Rigor mortis appears approximately 2 hours after death in the muscles of the face, progresses to the limbs over the next few hours, completing between 6 to 8 hours after death.
After the main case has been settled, a reconstruction in Majorca could also reveal some answers?
1. The style of all the deception carried out so far by ‘team McCann’ suggests to me that all their lies are based on facts or subject matter known to them. The following still have to be resolved.
2. Did Aoife really see those trousers in the street?
3. Or did someone tell her what to say?
4. Why were the Smiths the only ones to notice?
5.if Smithman was Gerry, and he knew some English speaking people had seen him, why would he not change into jeans when he got back, and change the description of the Child with it?
6. If the Child died earlier why did the Smiths not notice a stiff Corpse? They thought she was asleep.
Rigor mortis appears approximately 2 hours after death in the muscles of the face, progresses to the limbs over the next few hours, completing between 6 to 8 hours after death.
After the main case has been settled, a reconstruction in Majorca could also reveal some answers?
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 26.05.21 12:57
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________Silentscope wrote:Keeping an open mind and not trying to move backwards…
But stick to the facts and evidence of course!
1. The style of all the deception carried out so far by ‘team McCann’ suggests to me that all their lies are based on facts or subject matter known to them. The following still have to be resolved.
Style of deception, what does that even mean? So let's get resolving..
2. Did Aoife really see those trousers in the street?
See research threads on the subject of the Smith family.
3. Or did someone tell her what to say?
See research threads on the subject of the Smith family.
4. Why were the Smiths the only ones to notice?
Only ones to notice what?
5.if Smithman was Gerry, and he knew some English speaking people had seen him, why would he not change into jeans when he got back, and change the description of the Child with it?
Sorry, I haven't a clue what you're getting at, what does this ^^^ even mean?
6. If the Child died earlier why did the Smiths not notice a stiff Corpse? They thought she was asleep.
Rigor mortis appears approximately 2 hours after death in the muscles of the face, progresses to the limbs over the next few hours, completing between 6 to 8 hours after death.
Read the witness statements, take note of the detail and see research threads on the subject of the Smith family.
After the main case has been settled, a reconstruction in Majorca could also reveal some answers?
No comment!
Please don't waste any more of your time responding to the above, I know beforehand there will be no tangible explanation.
Besides, we don't want this thread turning into yet another on the subject of Martin Smith and his family. The matter has been discussed extensively in the past. if you take the time to use the forum's various search facilities you will discover for yourself. Meanwhile, to help you on your way, I think the following might be useful to you as it covers the Smith sighting detail in general..
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11056-smithman-5-the-evidence-of-the-smith-family-from-drogheda-ireland-the-twelve-sets-of-contradictions#303754
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Re: The McCanns 14th anniversary nonsense begins
by Guest 26.05.21 17:01
Entertainment Daily - well, I guess there is an element of truthiness in that.
Aside, team McCann really are scraping the bottom of the barrel fourteen years down the line, aren't they? Gone are the days of the Times and Telegraph, even the Guardian and Observer, taking a cursory interest - now it's all down to trashy magasines and the gutter press to maintain the momentum.
More of the same..
Madeleine McCann: Note revealed her parents would be leaving their ‘young children alone’
Could this have led to Madeleine's disappearance?
Nancy Brown
26 May 2021, 16:05
Kate McCann – the mother of missing Madeleine – “bitterly regrets” leaving her three children alone while she went out for dinner on the night her eldest was abducted.
Madeleine was just three when she went missing. She would’ve recently celebrated her 18th birthday.
Her parents – Kate and Gerry – marked the day with a post on Facebook.
They said they would “never give up” hoping their daughter would one day return home.
What did Kate McCann say about Madeleine?
Kate said she and Gerry “now bitterly regret” the decision to leave the children alone. She added they “will do so until the end of our days”.
Writing in her book, Madeleine: Our Daughter’s Disappearance and the Continuing Search for Her, Kate revealed a fact that is perhaps lesser known.
And it’s something that she seems to suggest could’ve led to Madeleine’s abduction.
Writing in the book, Kate said she and Gerry were given permission to read through the Portuguese police files.
And she discovered a note written in a staff book – before her daughter disappeared – at the apartment complex.
It revealed the parents requested eating out close to their apartment.
This is so they could dine out and leave their “young children alone”.
The note added they would be “checking on them intermittently”.
So how could the note have tipped off a potential abductor?
Kate wrote: “The note requesting to get a block booking was written in a staff message book. It sat on a desk at the pool reception for most of the day.
Read more: Madeleine McCann’s parents vow to ‘never give up’ as new evidence unearthed
“This book was, by definition, accessible to all staff. And, albeit unintentionally, probably to guests and visitors, too.”
So what did the note actually say?
“To my horror, I saw that no doubt in all innocence and simply to explain why she was bending the rules a bit, the receptionist had added the reason for our request.
“We wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.”
Of course, anyone familiar with the case will know that Madeleine went missing while her parents dined with friends at a nearby restaurant in May 2007.
https://www.entertainmentdaily.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-note-revealed-her-parents-would-be-leaving-their-young-children-alone/
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This video is always ripe for another airing - it speaks volumes..
Kate McCann: I Would Never Have Taken A Risk - 1st May 2008
Kate and Gerry McCann speak to Sky's Dermot Murnaghan after spending a year in the headlines looking for their daughter Madeleine.
Aside, team McCann really are scraping the bottom of the barrel fourteen years down the line, aren't they? Gone are the days of the Times and Telegraph, even the Guardian and Observer, taking a cursory interest - now it's all down to trashy magasines and the gutter press to maintain the momentum.
More of the same..
Madeleine McCann: Note revealed her parents would be leaving their ‘young children alone’
Could this have led to Madeleine's disappearance?
Nancy Brown
26 May 2021, 16:05
Kate McCann – the mother of missing Madeleine – “bitterly regrets” leaving her three children alone while she went out for dinner on the night her eldest was abducted.
Madeleine was just three when she went missing. She would’ve recently celebrated her 18th birthday.
Her parents – Kate and Gerry – marked the day with a post on Facebook.
They said they would “never give up” hoping their daughter would one day return home.
What did Kate McCann say about Madeleine?
Kate said she and Gerry “now bitterly regret” the decision to leave the children alone. She added they “will do so until the end of our days”.
Writing in her book, Madeleine: Our Daughter’s Disappearance and the Continuing Search for Her, Kate revealed a fact that is perhaps lesser known.
And it’s something that she seems to suggest could’ve led to Madeleine’s abduction.
Writing in the book, Kate said she and Gerry were given permission to read through the Portuguese police files.
We were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.
And she discovered a note written in a staff book – before her daughter disappeared – at the apartment complex.
It revealed the parents requested eating out close to their apartment.
This is so they could dine out and leave their “young children alone”.
The note added they would be “checking on them intermittently”.
So how could the note have tipped off a potential abductor?
Kate wrote: “The note requesting to get a block booking was written in a staff message book. It sat on a desk at the pool reception for most of the day.
Read more: Madeleine McCann’s parents vow to ‘never give up’ as new evidence unearthed
“This book was, by definition, accessible to all staff. And, albeit unintentionally, probably to guests and visitors, too.”
So what did the note actually say?
“To my horror, I saw that no doubt in all innocence and simply to explain why she was bending the rules a bit, the receptionist had added the reason for our request.
“We wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.”
Of course, anyone familiar with the case will know that Madeleine went missing while her parents dined with friends at a nearby restaurant in May 2007.
https://www.entertainmentdaily.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-note-revealed-her-parents-would-be-leaving-their-young-children-alone/
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This video is always ripe for another airing - it speaks volumes..
Kate McCann: I Would Never Have Taken A Risk - 1st May 2008
Kate and Gerry McCann speak to Sky's Dermot Murnaghan after spending a year in the headlines looking for their daughter Madeleine.
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