Re: Kate McCann: 'The twins know all about her disappearance and they want Maddie back'

by **Jill Havern** 18.02.16 7:49

Kate McCann: 'The twins know all about her disappearance and they want Maddie back' - Page 2 Tumblr_o2pplq8s4G1u5f06vo1_1280

http://suttonnick.tumblr.com/post/139505385541/thursdays-daily-star-front-page-maddie-twins

by **sharonl** 18.02.16 8:11

The twins were just two years old when Madeleine disappeared. They have been brought up with the fund raising, the media chaos, the absent parents who are giving worldwide interviews and attending fund raising parties and are too busy writing books. Yes I agree, they have been the subject of torment but not because they miss Madeleine, they would hardly remember her if it wasn't for her parents constantly reminding them.

by **Tony Bennett** 18.02.16 8:12

"If they are in such torment, why would that be our fault?"

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[REMINDER: “If Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment – why would that be our fault?" - Dr Kate McCann, 2008]

by Guest 18.02.16 9:47

Tony Bennett wrote:[REMINDER: “If Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment – why would that be our fault?" - Dr Kate McCann, 2008]

Pretty incredible statement wasn't it.

by pennylane 18.02.16 11:16

The twins were in a deep (catatonic) sleep as the catastrophe unfolded, and knew nothing of what happened on that ill-fated night. They've since been strongly brainwashed to believe 'the bad man took her!'

What they may remember, however, is the use of sedation when they were younger.

imo

by Guest 18.02.16 12:09

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

http://suttonnick.tumblr.com/post/139505385541/thursdays-daily-star-front-page-maddie-twins

How prosaic! You've got to hand it to the Star, they've certainly got a way with words that captivate their targeted audience. Surprised they haven't squeezed in a 'sicko' or 'chilling'.

by Guest 18.02.16 12:17

@Sharonl wrote: I dont think that we are allowed to say "Kate-lying-in-the-Sun" its called "searching" Kate McCann: 'The twins know all about her disappearance and they want Maddie back' - Page 2 302873

Kate McCann: 'The twins know all about her disappearance and they want Maddie back' - Page 2 302873

May I suggest an idea for a theme tune - 'Searching' by Del Shannon?

If we gotta keep on the run we'll follow the sun-ah, wee-ooh
Follow the sun-ah, wee-ooh
Follow the sun-ah, Follow the sun-ah, Follow the sun ...

by HelenMeg 18.02.16 12:18

BlueBag wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:[REMINDER: “If Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment – why would that be our fault?" - Dr Kate McCann, 2008]
Pretty incredible statement wasn't it.

It really was - absolutely

by jeanmonroe 18.02.16 12:20

How do we know the twins are 'tormented'?

It's a family 'secret'........innit?

by pennylane 18.02.16 12:21

The McCanns have been exacerbating and revealing 'the twins secret torment' for nearly nine years!

by HelenMeg 18.02.16 12:21

Ladyinred wrote:The twins want Madeleine back, says Kate. Seriously? Haven't she and Gerry been gently preparing them for the possibility that she will never return.

I think I'll start a new topic featuring Kate's stupid utterances, "Kate-lying-in-the-Sun".

Yes, exactly. Hasn't she been preparing them gently for the extremely strong possibility that she wont be coming home? If not, why not?

by HelenMeg 18.02.16 12:26

Tony Bennett wrote:
j.rob wrote:
As far as I am concerned, this is one of the few genuine photos of Madeleine with the twins...Madeleine looks sad and I think scared as well.

If there had been dozens of other genuine-looking photos of Madeleine with her siblings then you could just write this off as a 'bad day' but those other photos don't exist, imo. I think she looks sad, scared and unhappy.

@ j.rob It may be your opinion, but it's a rubbish opinion.

There are many genuine pictures which quite clearly show Madeleine and the twins together; moreover there are also videos - like the Christmas video - which very clearly show Madeleine at play with the twins.

Your opinion is baseless.

Moreover, on a great many of these Madeleine looks like a happy young child enjoying herself - well cared for and well turned out. You cannot tell from that one photograph alone whether Madeleine looks 'sad' or 'scared'. The existence of many photos of her looking happy suggests that she was basically a happy infant. Of course, every child has its sadder moments.

We have three photos of her, one with Sean, looking happy on Day One of her holiday in Portugal, 28 April 2007.

We have another one of her with Amelie on that holiday, the date of which has been questioned. She also looks very happy on that one.

The 'great photo mystery' is NOT of how few photos there are of Madeleine and the twins together - but how few there are of Madeleine and the twins on that holiday in Praia da Luz

I wouldn't like to call anyone's opinion 'rubbish' yes

but I do think we should try not to judge a child's state of mind on the basis of a photo. It can lead to dangerously wrong conclusions.
I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can decide that Madeleine is sad, scared and unhappy based on that photo... I do agree with Tony that there are few photos of Madeleine and twins on 'that holiday in Praia da Luz'. Wow! that holiday in Praia da Luz 9 years ago which we are still discussing to this very day. Unbelievable. grouphug

by jeanmonroe 18.02.16 12:36

New Maddie hunt as Kate and Gerry launch last-ditch bid using final £750k in appeal fund

She added: "They still raise money at school for the Find Madeleine Fund which is great."

Amelie and Sean still raise money at school for the Find Madeleine Fund
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K McCann's 'piece' in the Scum (welcome back, Re-bek-kah!) would have 'convinced me more' if, IF, she'd only have 'mentioned', three times, her and Gerry's registered. private Ltd company, Madeleine's Fund LNSU

Oh...............hang on..

by Liz Eagles 18.02.16 12:37

£750,000 in the Find Madeleine Fund which assists the family has the potential to pay for private/boarding/day boarding secondary education for Madeleine's siblings. An exclusive school where they are well educated, are no longer exposed to seeing damning headlines from tabloids displaying their spoon-fed headlines in the local papershop. Much better to place these poor children who are living life under a shadow in the bosom of an understanding private school where they are cossetted from all the nastiness.

Who knows? perhaps one of the many very rich people who have jumped on the bandwagon will offer these children a bursary. Perhaps the Fund has made provisions for the detrimental affect this whole fiasco has had upon the twins.

by MRNOODLES 18.02.16 12:43

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

http://suttonnick.tumblr.com/post/139505385541/thursdays-daily-star-front-page-maddie-twins

I think the clue is splashed across the top. 20p they're struggling to shift papers. What sells best? Bovine manure as cheap as sh** chips

by jeanmonroe 18.02.16 13:02

So what EXACTLY have the McCann's 'TOLD' the twins?

28 October 2015

Madeleine's parents Gerry and Kate McCann praised the "meticulous and painstaking work" done by police, and added, "Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine,....."

McCann's, verbatim: "WHILST WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MADELEINE"
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Q. So WHAT have the twins been 'told' by parents Gerry and Ka£e, about Madeleine's mysterious 'disappearance'?

A. I dunno, and neither do their parents!

by pennylane 18.02.16 13:55

jeanmonroe wrote:So what EXACTLY have the McCann's 'TOLD' the twins?

28 October 2015

Madeleine's parents Gerry and Kate McCann praised the "meticulous and painstaking work" done by police, and added, "Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine,....."

McCann's, verbatim: "WHILST WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MADELEINE"
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Q. So WHAT have the twins been 'told' by parents Gerry and Ka£e, about Madeleine's mysterious 'disappearance'?

A. I dunno, and neither do their parents!

Once upon a time, there was this big, bad bogey man who stole your 3 year old sister whilst she slept in the same room as you. We thought you should know this right away my little darlings. Sweet dreams. violin

by HelenMeg 18.02.16 14:54

That is just so funny (yes I know this is a tragedy, but sometimes you need to just laugh at the absurdity of this pair of dungrats)

by lj 18.02.16 15:46

Tony Bennett wrote:
canada12 wrote:If the twins have that degree of recollection, then things will get interesting once they reach the age of majority and the police may wish to question them about what they remember about the days and nights leading up to the "abduction". Specifically, the last time they actually saw Madeleine.
I think, if I may say so @ canada12, this sounds very much like 'wishful thinking' on your part - and is generally a highly improbable scenario.

It's well-established by science that most children do not have a clear recollection of any incident before they were 3.5 or so years old, unless they experienced an exceptionally traumatic event e.g. a bad accident to themselves or some other very dramatic event that imprints itself on their infant minds.

The twins were just two years and two months when they went on holiday to Praia da Luz.

Undoubtedly the media sensation generated by the McCanns and their backing group will have caused the twins some significant difficulties, as happened for example when Sean (so we are told) was upset listening to a radio news broadcast, when he was on the school 'bus, which mentioned Goncalo Amaral's theories about what happened to their elder sister.

It is quite a burden for the twins to bear - having these constant reminders in the press and the TV about their sister's abduction.

What I think they may be more likely to remember from their infant years is Mummy and Daddy being away from them and being looked after by different carers whilst their parents were jet-setting to the Pope, Morocco, the U.S., Germany, Ireland, Holland, the European Union, Oprah Winfrey and Piers Morgan, etc. not to mention appearing on numerous TV shows, acting as ambassador for Missing People, promoting Amber Alert, campaigning for 'Hacked Off', appearing at Leveson, attending Richard Branson's '1,000th day' bash, being interviewed by the PJ, meetings with the private invesigators (see Peribanez book), meetings with Scotland Yard, Jim Gamble, the Home Secretary, doing innumerable marathons and bike rides for charity etc. - and Kate having 'me' time on several occasions with the Hubbards.

The most likely response of the twins as they enter their teenage years will be to believe implicitly what their parents tell them about what really happened to Madeleine - and to distrust anyone who says different as 'liars' and 'haters'. All the same, assuming I'm right and if they do believe that Madeleine was abducted between 9.10pm and 10.00pm (as Scotland Yard now claim after they 'found' Crecheman), one day a rather shocking revelation might dawn on them and sink in:

"IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME THAT WAS TAKEN"

Every child (at least in a "normal" development" goes in it's teens through a face where they doubt anything their parents say or stand for. When that happens K&G's "don't look there" will have the opposite effect. Maybe it will not be memories, but internet searches that will give them another view on everything K&G tried to brainwash them with. I have no doubt that moment will come. I also have no doubt K&G realize that. I do believe that is why they are still throwing the twins in the mix. It's almost like making them non-consenting accomplices.

This conning couple has used religion and children as an effective shield to hide behind. It is despicable.

by lj 18.02.16 15:51

BlueBag wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:[REMINDER: “If Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment – why would that be our fault?" - Dr Kate McCann, 2008]
Pretty incredible statement wasn't it.

I believe it was Gerry who said that. Since it gives a very clear picture of what these depraved parents see as "responsible parenting" I have that as my signature.

by j.rob 18.02.16 16:02

HelenMeg wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
j.rob wrote:
As far as I am concerned, this is one of the few genuine photos of Madeleine with the twins...Madeleine looks sad and I think scared as well.

If there had been dozens of other genuine-looking photos of Madeleine with her siblings then you could just write this off as a 'bad day' but those other photos don't exist, imo. I think she looks sad, scared and unhappy.

@ j.rob It may be your opinion, but it's a rubbish opinion.

There are many genuine pictures which quite clearly show Madeleine and the twins together; moreover there are also videos - like the Christmas video - which very clearly show Madeleine at play with the twins.

Your opinion is baseless.

Moreover, on a great many of these Madeleine looks like a happy young child enjoying herself - well cared for and well turned out. You cannot tell from that one photograph alone whether Madeleine looks 'sad' or 'scared'. The existence of many photos of her looking happy suggests that she was basically a happy infant. Of course, every child has its sadder moments.

We have three photos of her, one with Sean, looking happy on Day One of her holiday in Portugal, 28 April 2007.

We have another one of her with Amelie on that holiday, the date of which has been questioned. She also looks very happy on that one.

The 'great photo mystery' is NOT of how few photos there are of Madeleine and the twins together - but how few there are of Madeleine and the twins on that holiday in Praia da Luz
I wouldn't like to call anyone's opinion 'rubbish' but I do think we should try not to judge a child's state of mind on the basis of a photo. It can lead to dangerously wrong conclusions.
I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can decide that Madeleine is sad, scared and unhappy based on that photo... I do agree with Tony that there are few photos of Madeleine and twins on 'that holiday in Praia da Luz'. Wow! that holiday in Praia da Luz 9 years ago which we are still discussing to this very day. Unbelievable.

This is a child who disappeared in the most suspicious circumstances imaginable. We know that Detective Amaral asked Kate whether she had ever considered giving up the care of Madeleine to relatives.

I think Madeleine looks unhappy and sad in that photo.

We know from Kate's book and from what relatives said that it was hard work coping with Madeleine when the twins arrived as she would be demanding attention when Kate tried to feed the twins.

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@ j.rob It may be your opinion, but it's a rubbish opinion.

There are many genuine pictures which quite clearly show Madeleine and the twins together; moreover there are also videos - like the Christmas video - which very clearly show Madeleine at play with the twins.

Your opinion is baseless.

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That's pretty rude. If Madeleine was such a happy, well-cared for child why do she disappear in such suspicious circumstances? Why did the dogs detect cadaver in apartment 5A? Why did Amaral ask that question? Why didn't Kate answer the 48 questions? Why didn't the McCanns' or their friends search for Madeleine?

Those are not the actions of parents of a happy, well-cared for child.

by j.rob 18.02.16 16:09

We have three photos of her, one with Sean, looking happy on Day One of her holiday in Portugal, 28 April 2007.

We have another one of her with Amelie on that holiday, the date of which has been questioned. She also looks very happy on that one.

The 'great photo mystery' is NOT of how few photos there are of Madeleine and the twins together - but how few there are of Madeleine and the twins on that holiday in Praia da Luz

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I don't agree with this either. In the photo on day one of that holiday you cannot see the girl's face. It could easily have been another child. The infamous 'last photo' looks like a cut and paste job to me. But even if the only thing that is deceptive about it is the day/time it was taken that is still a huge deception. Because it means that the McCanns are pretending that they have evidence that Madeleine was alive, well and 'full of beans' on Thursday. When in fact - if the photo was taken on another day - they don't.

Why would responsible parents with well-cared for children need to be deceptive in this way?

by Guest 18.02.16 16:36

j.rob wrote: The infamous 'last photo' looks like a cut and paste job to me.

Yeah we know.

You've been shown the error of your ways so many times it's boring.

by **sandancer** 18.02.16 19:08

This is my first post having just joined COMMM, so I hope I'm doing this right ! Firstly many thanks to all for their amazing hard work research and knowledge I've been reading for a while but felt now was the time to join !

Though so much makes me angry about this case , when I read the latest rubbish I really saw red !

They "lost" their eldest daughter and made money out of her "disappearance " now they have the gall to drag the twins into the media .

Do they not realise the damage they are doing to these two vulnerable children ?

They know everything , Oh really ( did you give them your translated P.J Files to read ? )

They are raising money at school for The Fund , is the Fund that depleted that you have to involve your children ?

Does it not occur to Kate and Gerry that teachers, older pupils and parents have probably read the Files , watched videos and seen forums ?
The twins could be teased, bullied etc by being plastered all over the press !

How low can these parents ( who in mho do not deserve that title ) sink ?

Sorry my first post had to be a rant , Ok feel better now !

by Guest 18.02.16 19:20

Welcome to the forum, sandancer.

Don't worry about a rant, many of us feel the same!

by **Jill Havern** 18.02.16 19:56

by Spacecowboy 18.02.16 20:16

What a despicable human being Kate McCann is. On Chapter 7 of her book she said the PJ insulted her intelligence by exploring the theory that Madeleine may have wondered off. Kate states ''it was, much more importantly, frighteningly damaging to the chances of finding Madeleine quickly. If the police were wasting precious time pursuing it they were not going to be looking in the right places, or taking the appropriate type of action''.
Kate had the audacity to criticise the PJ for going out looking Madeleine, whilst she was too tired to do so herself.

Why didn't Kate criticise her friend Jane Tanner for wasting precious time, delaying telling anyone except Gerry about her claimed sighting and the direction he was heading in, so that people who volunteered to search, scattered everywhere would concentrate searching (and looking for a trail of potential clues) in the direction this so called abductor headed in?

''That morning (Friday 4th) I learned of the man Jane had seen in the street. Although Gerry and our friends had been trying to protect me from further distress by not telling me about this sooner, when they did I was strangely relieved. Madeleine hadn’t just disappeared off the face of the earth. There was something to work on.

''I have never felt any anger or disappointment whatsoever towards Jane. On the contrary, I was grateful someone had seen something. I’m sure this experience has been a terrible burden for her to carry around with her every day since and I do feel for her''.

No mention of feeling anger towards the Smiths either for wasting precious time in reporting their sighting almost two weeks after Madeleine was reported missing.

by **Tony Bennett** 18.02.16 20:51

Spacecowboy wrote:No mention of feeling anger towards the Smiths either for wasting precious time in reporting their sighting almost two weeks after Madeleine was reported missing.

Very true.

But how much more would they have wasted the police - and everybody else's - time, if there never was such a sighting??

by Guest 18.02.16 23:52

@sandancer wrote: They "lost" their eldest daughter and made money out of her "disappearance " now they have the gall to drag the twins into the media..

Did you say now? Read on..

Gerry McCanns Blog

Day 23 - Saturday 26th May 2007

Tomorrow will be a family day. We are doing a photo-shoot with the twins for the Sunday newspapers in the morning but will involve stuff that we want to do with them anyway. We also need to recharge our batteries after what has been a very busy week.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/DAYS_1_to_50.htm

by Non believer 19.02.16 11:54

Has anybody else noticed how much this "child rescue alert" has been mentioned or promoted this past week with the latest round of the Mccann saga?
Their's an hidden agenda. Even my elderly mum was asking me this week what's the child rescue alert and she has no interest in this Mcann fairy tale.

EDIT= just read the full article from the Sun. It's even got "child recue alert" in bold purple and when you click on it it's a link to child recue page. It also gets plugged in the article printed in NZ

Kate McCann: 'The twins know all about her disappearance and they want Maddie back'