Re: CRIMEWATCH ON BBC ***Part 1 DISCUSSION****

by Prehensile 15.10.13 15:03

Lance De Boils wrote:
"Kate and Gerry McCann will travel to Holland today and Germany tomorrow because the resort they were staying in is particularly popular with people from those countries and the suspect is believed to have a German or a Scandinavian accent."

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I'm just wondering... for a non-English-speaking person, on hearing a Brit with a strong Glaswegian accent, might it be mistaken for another European accent?

Good observation LDB. I remember years ago my parents encouraging me to take German at school because of the way us Scots pronounce similarly to the German language.

by tasprin 15.10.13 15:03

The Daily Mail have published a photo of Martin Smith in today's paper. Surely this amounts to witness harassment?

by chillyheat 15.10.13 15:04

The question is....Did the McCanns know what the "revelation" would be.....It was significant that they were sat on a sofa alone. There was room for another, Redwood perhaps.....

by Guest 15.10.13 15:05

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I'm hoping that one of our Portuguese speakers will tell us what this is about.

by Shrike 15.10.13 15:07

I'm still hopeful after last night's movement to the Smith sighting especially thinking about the CPS visit to Portugal earlier in the year. They must surely have been there with SY and PJ to discuss what was needed for a conviction of British "alive" person in Britain. The McCanns must have known this hence their ghastly looks in those photos at the time. But SY et al do need to play a careful and patient game I believe and collect the evidence required as advised.

Just heard Theresa May on the news stating how she is working with the police here in the UK toi improve the integrity of the organisation. Maybe nothing related I know but what better way than to use this case as a leading example of how our force stood above all else to bring justice where it was most needed.

by tiny 15.10.13 15:08

where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)

by Five Star 15.10.13 15:11

I'm starting to think someone (T9) has done a quick check on their kids and knew the MCcann flat was unlocked and decided to do a quick check on the MCcann's kids too, just to find the twins asleep and no maddie. Maybe word got round and that's what made David Payne say they all knew something was going to happen but they did not ever think it would be something so shocking/serious ,or words to that effect?

Sorry for being a wee bit off toe pick laughat

by dontbelieveaword 15.10.13 15:11

tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)

Yes, I'd like to know this too - any answers?

by russiandoll 15.10.13 15:12

tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)

this is just the info SY want imo

by Nereid 15.10.13 15:12

Angelique wrote:
Nereid wrote:Reporter: The British father had collected his 2 year old daughter from the creche. He had been walking near the McCann’s apartment. This is the actual photograph taken by Metropolitan Police officers of the man dressed in the kind of clothes he wore on holiday. This image was compared to the artist’s impression.

Redwood: It is uncannily similar and we know that the pyjamas tha their child was wearing, that it is again uncannily striking the similarities.

The actor picked for the Crimewatch reconstruction (Smith sighting):

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looks uncannily similar to the person on the left here:

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Nereid

Is it my eyes or does the video picture of the actor look as though his hairline has been changed and the side burns or is this just blurring by pausing the video ?

I think the hairline could have been changed. Don't think it's blurring. You can see it on BBC iPlayer at about 23 minutes in.

Here's another still from a different angle:

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by dontbelieveaword 15.10.13 15:12

russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo

So why haven't they outright asked for it?

by russiandoll 15.10.13 15:13

Five Star wrote:I'm starting to think someone (T9) has done a quick check on their kids and knew the MCcann flat was unlocked and decided to do a quick check on the MCcann's kids too, just to find the twins asleep and no maddie. Maybe word got round and that's what made David Payne say they all knew something was going to happen but they did not ever think it would be something so shocking/serious ,or words to that effect?

Sorry for being a wee bit off toe pick

I think the DP ref was to the Mcs being made arguidos, coming under suspicion.

by Guest 15.10.13 15:13

Five Star: that was a much later comment from David Payne and referred to the McCanns being made arguidos in September.

by tiny 15.10.13 15:14

dontbelieveaword wrote:
russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo
So why haven't they outright asked for it?

yes I wonder why they haven't,funny that

by russiandoll 15.10.13 15:15

1000 people have contacted CW.
Redwood is in Netherlands tonight and Germany tomorrow, acc to Sky. He hopes Dutch and German tourists will provide info.

Kay Burley reading out viewer e mails

1. Sympathy but never should have left children alone.

2. Sympathy but so many other missing children

by tiny 15.10.13 15:16

russiandoll wrote:1000 people have contacted CW.

And they all said it was Gerry mccann:biggrin:

by Guest 15.10.13 15:17

Double post - sorry

by Guest 15.10.13 15:18

russiandoll wrote:1000 people have contacted CW.

Roughly how many people were in pdl at the time?

by Prehensile 15.10.13 15:18

tiny wrote:
russiandoll wrote:1000 people have contacted CW.
And they all said it was Gerry mccann:biggrin:

I bet most have, but will we ever be told the true figure stating the same name?

by russiandoll 15.10.13 15:19

tiny wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo
So why haven't they outright asked for it?
yes I wonder why they haven't,funny that

Redwood is in Europe asking for info acc to reports.

What is he meant to say on CW....phone if you think you saw Mr McCann?

The police have said time and again they want info from holidaymakers and someone apart from Smiths might have seen the man and child.
Someone might place Gerry absent from table at a certain time.

by dontbelieveaword 15.10.13 15:20

tiny wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo
So why haven't they outright asked for it?
yes I wonder why they haven't,funny that

unfortunately all it proves to me is that the parents are not on SY's radar...I can't understand how SY can take the Smith sighting so seriously yet not take Smith's follow up after he'd seen GM coming down the plane steps and that he was 60-80% convinced it was GM. How can SY only run with half the story / statement?

by russiandoll 15.10.13 15:20

Poe wrote:
russiandoll wrote:1000 people have contacted CW.
Roughly how many people were in pdl at the time?

that time of year? not that many Brits I reckon !

by russiandoll 15.10.13 15:21

dontbelieveaword wrote:
tiny wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo
So why haven't they outright asked for it?
yes I wonder why they haven't,funny that
unfortunately all it proves to me is that the parents are not on SY's radar...I can't understand how SY can take the Smith sighting so seriously yet not take Smith's follow up after he'd seen GM coming down the plane steps and that he was 60-80% convinced it was GM. How can SY only run with half the story / statement?

Do you believe SY would tell the world on CW who was in their sights?

eta I am looking at what was omitted rather than what was included !
AR said nothing, we don't know what they are doing.

by tiny 15.10.13 15:22

dontbelieveaword wrote:
tiny wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo
So why haven't they outright asked for it?
yes I wonder why they haven't,funny that
unfortunately all it proves to me is that the parents are not on SY's radar...I can't understand how SY can take the Smith sighting so seriously yet not take Smith's follow up after he'd seen GM coming down the plane steps and that he was 60-80% convinced it was GM. How can SY only run with half the story / statement?

now you know why I lean to a whitewash,what is needed here is for Martin Smith to stand tall and say he was 80% sure it was Gerry,and not let sy cut him short

by russiandoll 15.10.13 15:23

Redwood is going to Ireland . I don't think he was being dishonest when he said he wanted to work with Portugal and they sure wont cover the Mcs backsides.

imo this is all about lining up the pieces on the chessboard. it is strategy with a long term goal imo.

by Shrike 15.10.13 15:24

russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo
So why haven't they outright asked for it?
yes I wonder why they haven't,funny that
Redwood is in Europe asking for info acc to reports.

What is he meant to say on CW....phone if you think you saw Mr McCann?

The police have said time and again they want info from holidaymakers and someone apart from Smiths might have seen the man and child.
Someone might place Gerry absent from table at a certain time.

Russiandoll - here here, the point of it all?

by tiredofthebs 15.10.13 15:24

I suppose the positive thing is that these 1000 callers are actually going to have their information reach the police. Unlike the hundreds or thousands of people who were being directed to the McCanns website or their private investigators.

Could someone, who doesn't believe the police are involved in this cover up, explain why the Leicestershire Police website was directing people to the McCann's own website for years?

by dontbelieveaword 15.10.13 15:26

russiandoll wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
tiny wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo
So why haven't they outright asked for it?
yes I wonder why they haven't,funny that
unfortunately all it proves to me is that the parents are not on SY's radar...I can't understand how SY can take the Smith sighting so seriously yet not take Smith's follow up after he'd seen GM coming down the plane steps and that he was 60-80% convinced it was GM. How can SY only run with half the story / statement?
Do you believe SY would tell the world on CW who was in their sights?

eta I am looking at what was omitted rather than what was included !
AR said nothing, we don't know what they are doing.

But to be fair most of the public watching the show will only know the events as put to them - they can't be expected to unravel cryptic clues and whats not being said - CW doesn't work like that - it's always very clear about who they are looking for. I'm as gutted as you are that it seems all the evidence is being ignored in favour of teh parents. I'll never understand why?

by Guest 15.10.13 15:27

russiandoll wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
tiny wrote:
dontbelieveaword wrote:
russiandoll wrote:
tiny wrote:where was Gerry when Martin Smith saw this man with child at 10 0/c, are there any independant witness,s(not the tapas friends)
this is just the info SY want imo
So why haven't they outright asked for it?
yes I wonder why they haven't,funny that
unfortunately all it proves to me is that the parents are not on SY's radar...I can't understand how SY can take the Smith sighting so seriously yet not take Smith's follow up after he'd seen GM coming down the plane steps and that he was 60-80% convinced it was GM. How can SY only run with half the story / statement?
Do you believe SY would tell the world on CW who was in their sights?

eta I am looking at what was omitted rather than what was included !
AR said nothing, we don't know what they are doing.

I've lost count of the number of times the police have appealed for "suspects" when the actual suspect is sat feet away.

I don't understand why anyone would think that the police are capable of lying to produce a whitewash but have to tell the absolute truth during an investigation.

by Seek truth 15.10.13 15:27

Just read in one paper that SMITH saw a girl IN PYJAMAS BAREFOOT! At 10pm

But everyone knows that it was Jane tanner who saw the girl in pyjamas barefoot at 9.15. Trying to confuse everyone.? The independent.

Saw in other paper, The sun, the old picture of Jane tanners mystery man with girl in pyjamas barefoot.

Confusion is good. But is it fair on Portugal, all the hard work, and putting online their statements (in other words proud of their work) and then being called the liars. READ people READ.

Well done Crimewatch.