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Post by plebgate 07.10.13 21:06

candyfloss wrote:
ShuBob wrote:
plebgate wrote:You know what I am bored with him and the newspapers over  the weekend.

Roll on Anne's reports about Mr. A's witnesses, something sensible to discuss then.
He's getting slaughtered on Twitter by people who don't appear to follow the case. Unsurprisingly, they haven't claimed Amaral is the reason for their dislike of him.
Where is this ShuBob?  Can you give a link?
  Yes please Shubob, a link would be much appreciated.  Ta.
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Post by sallypelt 07.10.13 21:09

The "f@#ing T@*er" is a witness for the defence.
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Post by ShuBob 07.10.13 21:13

candyfloss wrote:
ShuBob wrote:
plebgate wrote:You know what I am bored with him and the newspapers over  the weekend.

Roll on Anne's reports about Mr. A's witnesses, something sensible to discuss then.
He's getting slaughtered on Twitter by people who don't appear to follow the case. Unsurprisingly, they haven't claimed Amaral is the reason for their dislike of him.
Where is this ShuBob?  Can you give a link?
Just do a search for "Gerry McCann" on Twitter.
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Post by sallypelt 07.10.13 21:18

This is one twitter link: twubs.com/McCann.


http://twubs.com/mccann
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Post by plebgate 07.10.13 21:20

Thanks Shubob and Sallypelt.
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Post by sallypelt 07.10.13 21:21

plebgate wrote:Thanks Shubob.
Did you get the link to the Gerry twitter site, plebgate, because I can't seem to find one
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Post by plebgate 07.10.13 21:25

@Sallypelt googled twitter and "Gerry Mccann was on about Aresenal or something, but I am useless at search.  lol

Got a lot of info from your link SallyP, thanks - notice the Gaspar statements mentioned!!!!
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Post by sallypelt 07.10.13 21:27

plebgate wrote:@Sallypelt googled twitter and "Gerry Mccann was on about Aresenal or something, but I am useless at search.  lol

Got a lot of info from your link SallyP, thanks - notice the Gaspar statements mentioned!!!!
Plebgate, that site isn't for the faint-hearted spit coffee 
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Post by ShuBob 07.10.13 22:06

sallypelt wrote:
plebgate wrote:@Sallypelt googled twitter and "Gerry Mccann was on about Aresenal or something, but I am useless at search.  lol

Got a lot of info from your link SallyP, thanks - notice the Gaspar statements mentioned!!!!
Plebgate, that site isn't for the faint-hearted spit coffee 
Sorry for not including examples earlier blushing1 

iPryers ‏@iPryers 9h

Piss off Gerry McCann dictating what I can or can’t read. You wouldn’t be in the press if you hadn’t been on the piss.

Phil ‏@Songbird_uk 9h

Gerry McCann seems to be some kind of celebrity political commentator.

Berek FTM ‏@BezzaFTM 9h

Gerry McCann there, on about being a victim, there's only one victim and it's not him
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Post by russiandoll 07.10.13 22:14

Tomorrow's front page 

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Post by Guest 07.10.13 22:23

russiandoll wrote:Tomorrow's front page 

CRIMEWATCH RECONSTRUCTION - However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from  taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police. - Page 13 Express-1-329x437
Since 2007, 1 million Arab Spring and tsunamis casualties later, the retrieval of this one single British infant, will fill us all with hope of a better world

I for one, will hoist my countries flag on our flag post, and really, really rejoice

I mean it

PS This weekend, about 500 women and children drowned near the shores of Lampedusa. Lest we forget
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Post by JackieL 07.10.13 22:24

ShuBob wrote:
iPryers ‏@iPryers 9h

Piss off Gerry McCann dictating what I can or can’t read. You wouldn’t be in the press if you hadn’t been on the piss.

Phil ‏@Songbird_uk 9h

Gerry McCann seems to be some kind of celebrity political commentator.

Berek FTM ‏@BezzaFTM 9h

Gerry McCann there, on about being a victim, there's only one victim and it's not him
Just had to bump these.....just too good.yes
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Post by ultimaThule 07.10.13 22:28

ShuBob wrote:
Sorry for not including examples earlier blushing1 

iPryers ‏@iPryers 9h

Piss off Gerry McCann dictating what I can or can’t read. You wouldn’t be in the press if you hadn’t been on the piss.
That comment rocks! 

I'm tempted to have it printed on a 'good quality' t-shirt and send it to the saintly one to wear when she's out running from the truth
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Post by nobodythereeither 07.10.13 22:46

Portia wrote:
russiandoll wrote:Tomorrow's front page 

CRIMEWATCH RECONSTRUCTION - However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from  taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police. - Page 13 Express-1-329x437
Since 2007, 1 million Arab Spring and tsunamis casualties later, the retrieval of this one single British infant, will fill us all with hope of a better world

I for one, will hoist my countries flag on our flag post, and really, really rejoice

I mean it

PS This weekend, about 500 women and children drowned near the shores of Lampedusa. Lest we forget
Thanks for putting this case in context, Portia.
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Post by Tony Bennett 07.10.13 23:00

Yesterday: Operation Grange say: 'Arrests imminent'

Today: Operation Grange say: 'We'll find Maddie alive'.

Are they morphing into Metodo 3?

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Woofer 07.10.13 23:08

Tony Bennett wrote:Yesterday: Operation Grange say: 'Arrests imminent'

Today: Operation Grange say: 'We'll find Maddie alive'.

Are they morphing into Metodo 3?
She`ll be home for Christmas, maybe
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Post by nobodythereeither 07.10.13 23:12

Tony Bennett wrote:Yesterday: Operation Grange say: 'Arrests imminent'

Today: Operation Grange say: 'We'll find Maddie alive'.

Are they morphing into Metodo 3?
big grin big grin big grin
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Post by russiandoll 07.10.13 23:17

Operation Grange did not say that arrests might be made during the broadcast of Crimewatch, that came from a family source.

 And the police dismissed it today.

 Tomorrow's headline does not as far as I can see come from the police but again from the family, this time the parents.
 The sub heading says that the parents have  hope, so I read this as the We being K and G.

until I read the article in full that is imho.

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Post by marconi 07.10.13 23:24

Woofer wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:Yesterday: Operation Grange say: 'Arrests imminent'

Today: Operation Grange say: 'We'll find Maddie alive'.

Are they morphing into Metodo 3?
She`ll be home for Christmas, maybe
no way, she is a muslim.
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Post by maebee 07.10.13 23:35

marconi wrote:
Woofer wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:Yesterday: Operation Grange say: 'Arrests imminent'

Today: Operation Grange say: 'We'll find Maddie alive'.

Are they morphing into Metodo 3?
She`ll be home for Christmas, maybe
no way, she is a muslim.
Who is a Muslim, marconi?
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Post by loopzdaloop 08.10.13 0:11

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Hobs wrote:Since there were so many doctors present why did they not do cpr or treat whatever injuries and call 911 if it had been an accident?

The reason being awkward questions would be asked for one and secondly if she died it was vital an autopsy not be performed.

When a parent acts to prevent an autpsy or hides the body of their dead child, they have a reason to. Guilty knowledge.

What was so bad that the parents in particular and the group as a whole were prepared to face neglect charges resulting in a max 10 stretch rather than admit the truth?
Going off topic, sorry, but I am with you on this Hobbs. I've always believed that the key to understanding this case is to discover why they wouldn't allow an autopsy to be performed on Madeleine. Was it to hide

1. the evidence of medication that might have led to her demise?
2. the evidence of some physical abuse that might have directly or indirectly caused her death?
3. the evidence of sexual abuse?

I don't think they would have gone this length to cover up her death if the only uncomfortable truth that might emerge was her real paternity, for example.
4. Drugs.

They had a sleep behaviour reward chart on their fridge. The problem with behaviour modification systems is that they require effort and consistency over time and would certainly of not allowed abandonment and drinking time opposite adjàcent. Medical Doctors like to treat Symptoms and not the causes, so if the symptom is her waking up the treatment would be drugging to make her sleep. it was Kate's speciality, they got laxidasical, she woke up, climbed on sofa, slipped and cracked her head open. If the body was found the mccanns would be double or triples screwed as neglect resulting in accident AND unethical drugging would certainly result in loss of twins and their jobs and time in prison. They were between a rock and a hard place, yet morally bankrupt so we know what they chose.
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Post by aiyoyo 08.10.13 3:51

http://whathappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/open-letter-re-proposed-crimewatch.html?spref=tw

Letter to BBC Crimewatch Unit. No idea who penned it.
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Post by ultimaThule 08.10.13 4:44

aiyoyo wrote:http://whathappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/open-letter-re-proposed-crimewatch.html?spref=tw

Letter to BBC Crimewatch Unit.  No idea who penned it.
I adhere to the school of thought which says that when writing to a person or company for the first time by way of introduction or in respect of any matter which can be construed as a complaint, it's advisable to keep it to one page as few recipients will bother to properly read any subsesquent pages - presupposing they bother to proceed to a 2nd page, or more.

What I want to know about the forthcoming Crimewatch programme is whether it will be made clear to the viewing public that any featured 'reconstruction' relating to the Madeleine McCann case was not filmed in or around the complex in Praia de Luz where the crime was committed nor was it filmed in Portugal.

I also want to know why this programme will not be aired in Portugal given that, presumably, NSY are hoping to solicit responses from those who were living in or visiting Luz in late April 2007 through to the time the crime was reported on the night of May 3rd 2007, and before/beyond in the event that anyone has information, no matter how trivial they may believe it to be, which could aid the investigation.   

As I've just realised that the above 2 paragraphs can be turned into a succinct email guess what I'm about to do, aiyoyo?  And if I can master my new wi-fi printer I intend to follow through with a missive delivered by snail mail.
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Post by lj 08.10.13 5:52

aquila wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
jozi wrote:
Cristobell wrote:Can we please be a little more thoughtful to other posters, for some English is not their first language.  We are all here because we are 'brave' enough to say that we do not believe the abduction theory.  Obviously we are going to have different opinions and will express our views in different ways, but all are valid and all should be treated with respect. This is a great forum and we should welcome and encourage readers to contribute. There is no definitive conclusion to this case, therefore there is no right or wrong way to post.
I second that post Cristobell  thumbsup 
Yes well said Cristobell.

Everyone here is entitled to their opinion, so please respect that.
Can we also respect that some seasoned members of this forum recognise disruption tactics that are possibly designed to discredit and ridicule the forum by posting ridiculous things in differing language abilities from the same poster.

I really don't care if I am banned from the forum today for my opinion on this matter. I have an issue with someone who posts death, body, corpse, SY know where the body is hidden, grave, tapas 10 (whoever they are), the T7 (that's 10 minus 3) have changed their statements and confessed without any reference to anything.

This is also the same poster who cannot seem to find a single link to anything.

If the forum thinks that this type of post should go unchallenged then that's a sad day for the forum I have been part of for two years.
Not only does he/she repeatedly post facts as true, without any reference even after being asked for it, he/she also has post rather nasty remarks tp people who ask for it. Hiding behind the "english is not my first language" does not cut it: my bet is that about 1/3 of the members don't have English as a first language, or even second, or 3rd.

It has nothing to do with opinion, it has everything to do with posting very debatable "facts" without proof and than become all hissyfit when asked for proof or reference

But hey, if that's the new standard I can think of some provoking theories that I can post as fact.

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Post by Ribisl 08.10.13 5:59

loopzdaloop wrote:
Ribisl wrote:
Hobs wrote:Since there were so many doctors present why did they not do cpr or treat whatever injuries and call 911 if it had been an accident?

The reason being awkward questions would be asked for one and secondly if she died it was vital an autopsy not be performed.

When a parent acts to prevent an autpsy or hides the body of their dead child, they have a reason to. Guilty knowledge.

What was so bad that the parents in particular and the group as a whole were prepared to face neglect charges resulting in a max 10 stretch rather than admit the truth?
Going off topic, sorry, but I am with you on this Hobbs. I've always believed that the key to understanding this case is to discover why they wouldn't allow an autopsy to be performed on Madeleine. Was it to hide

1. the evidence of medication that might have led to her demise?
2. the evidence of some physical abuse that might have directly or indirectly caused her death?
3. the evidence of sexual abuse?

I don't think they would have gone this length to cover up her death if the only uncomfortable truth that might emerge was her real paternity, for example.
4. Drugs.

They had a sleep behaviour reward chart on their fridge. The problem with behaviour modification systems is that they require effort and consistency over time and would certainly of not allowed abandonment and drinking time opposite adjàcent. Medical Doctors like to treat Symptoms and not the causes, so if the symptom is her waking up the treatment would be drugging to make her sleep. it was Kate's speciality, they got laxidasical, she woke up, climbed on sofa, slipped and cracked her head open. If the body was found the mccanns would be double or triples screwed as neglect resulting in accident AND unethical drugging would certainly result in loss of twins and their jobs and time in prison. They were between a rock and a hard place, yet morally bankrupt so we know what they chose.
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Very well put. If the death was caused as a result of her ingesting some form of medication (drugs), it seems unlikely that she died in her bed since there was no trace of cadaverine there.

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