CRIMEWATCH RECONSTRUCTION - However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.
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Re: CRIMEWATCH RECONSTRUCTION - However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.
Had never seen that before. They can't help themselves lying can they!JackieL wrote:Good interview.......listen from 2.40 mins on Part 2 discussion on reconstruction
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Here's part 1 - Kate getting rattled:
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Presenter: "you said the children were upset the night before"
Kate: "we never said that"
presenter: "err.. You did in the leaked statements"
Back when questions, not particularly tough ones, but appropriate ones could be put to them.
They were not happy we're they!
In part two, at 1min 50s ish when Gerry interrupts, the way Kate flinches from him, her eyes appear frightened' is every interesting.
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Don't forget peeps Andy 'deadbeat' Deadwood had an excellent teacher for the first TWO years of the 'review' namely Hamish 'fit 'im up' Campbell.
so don't let's be surprised IF some 'loner' gets nicked.
If 'arrests' are made before 14th October 2013 then the BBC 'McCannwatch' programme is 'redundant'
Do you think Kate McCann is going to allow THAT?
Not getting herself on telly? no way!
NO 'give us yer dosh' appeal, we're working so hard on our computers 'searching' for our neglected daughter, yer know, whatshername Gez? Margaret, erm um, Maddie, er Madelene, oh you know'
So, NO 'arrests' until AFTER 'McCannwatch'!
All imo obviously.
ETA: Can Deadwood 'arrest' a dead paedo?
That would be a 'first' even for SY!
But, as they say, 'there's a first time for everything'
so don't let's be surprised IF some 'loner' gets nicked.
If 'arrests' are made before 14th October 2013 then the BBC 'McCannwatch' programme is 'redundant'
Do you think Kate McCann is going to allow THAT?
Not getting herself on telly? no way!
NO 'give us yer dosh' appeal, we're working so hard on our computers 'searching' for our neglected daughter, yer know, whatshername Gez? Margaret, erm um, Maddie, er Madelene, oh you know'
So, NO 'arrests' until AFTER 'McCannwatch'!
All imo obviously.
ETA: Can Deadwood 'arrest' a dead paedo?
That would be a 'first' even for SY!
But, as they say, 'there's a first time for everything'
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Sorry, somewhere I wrote that Charles Lindenbergh was a Briton, living in London, the murder on his son was not solved and I blamed the Scotland Yard for it.
Lindenbergh was an American, living in the USA and the murder was solved by an American police force.
I apologise to the Scotland Yard and I wait for a better chance to blame it for something else.
LOL !
Lindenbergh was an American, living in the USA and the murder was solved by an American police force.
I apologise to the Scotland Yard and I wait for a better chance to blame it for something else.
LOL !
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Spin!maebee wrote:Seems to be bris. Nice of SY to let the arrests be known in advance. More rubbishbristow wrote:Hi Maebee, is this the front page for tomorrow?maebee wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Perhaps the McCanns have been warned of potential arrests just like they were fore-warned of being named arguidos.
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Very disparaging about Redwood and SY without purpose. Similar perspective that the Mccanns utilise with Goncalo.jeanmonroe wrote:Don't forget peeps Andy 'deadbeat' Deadwood had an excellent teacher for the first TWO years of the 'review' namely Hamish 'fit 'im up' Campbell.
so don't let's be surprised IF some 'loner' gets nicked.
If 'arrests' are made before 14th October 2013 then the BBC 'McCannwatch' programme is 'redundant'
Do you think Kate McCann is going to allow THAT?
Not getting herself on telly? no way!
NO 'give us yer dosh' appeal, we're working so hard on our computers 'searching' for our neglected daughter, yer know, whatshername, Margaret, erm um, Maddie, er Madelene, oh you know'
So, NO 'arrests' until AFTER 'McCannwatch'!
All imo obviously.
IMO.
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Disparaging?
What is?
Hamish Campbell, Andy Deadwood's superior, in the review team, FITTED UP 'loner' Barry George for Jill Dando's murder.
Barry George wrongly imprisoned for YEARS on Campbells 'evidence;
Barry George totally exonerated and CLEARED of any 'involvement'
So let's not have any truck about SY 'fitting up' a suspect.
IF you believe they don't and are all goodie two shoes and whiter than white i suggest you read how many of the great and good coppers at SY/MET have been SACKED this year.
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ETA: A Met detective constable was sacked for stealing handbags, as was a PC found guilty of distributing photographs of children being sexually abused.
And some more, whiter than white, goody two shoes cops we should be showing 'respect' for!
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A man who served more than seven years in jail for a murder he always denied has had his conviction quashed.
There was a failure by police to investigate his alibi, and witnesses who put him at the scene of the murder were unreliable, the court heard.
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The Metropolitan Police said it was "a matter of deep regret that Sam Hallam lost his liberty" due to an unsafe conviction.
Commander Simon Foy, head of the Homicide and Serious Crime Command, said: "The death of Essayas Kassahun was a tragedy and what followed was a complex investigation for which one person remains convicted."
He said the circumstances of the crime involved a large group of people and this type of investigation often relied on people coming forward to give personal accounts.
He added: "We continue to face challenging investigations such as these and there are undoubtedly certain lessons to be learned for police and the wider criminal justice system from today's judgement."
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Oh, Commander Simon FOY.!
The 'head' of the triumvirate of the Madeleine 'review' team!
Foy, Campbell and Redwood.
Still think we'll see justice for Madeleine?
What is?
Hamish Campbell, Andy Deadwood's superior, in the review team, FITTED UP 'loner' Barry George for Jill Dando's murder.
Barry George wrongly imprisoned for YEARS on Campbells 'evidence;
Barry George totally exonerated and CLEARED of any 'involvement'
So let's not have any truck about SY 'fitting up' a suspect.
IF you believe they don't and are all goodie two shoes and whiter than white i suggest you read how many of the great and good coppers at SY/MET have been SACKED this year.
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ETA: A Met detective constable was sacked for stealing handbags, as was a PC found guilty of distributing photographs of children being sexually abused.
And some more, whiter than white, goody two shoes cops we should be showing 'respect' for!
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A man who served more than seven years in jail for a murder he always denied has had his conviction quashed.
There was a failure by police to investigate his alibi, and witnesses who put him at the scene of the murder were unreliable, the court heard.
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The Metropolitan Police said it was "a matter of deep regret that Sam Hallam lost his liberty" due to an unsafe conviction.
Commander Simon Foy, head of the Homicide and Serious Crime Command, said: "The death of Essayas Kassahun was a tragedy and what followed was a complex investigation for which one person remains convicted."
He said the circumstances of the crime involved a large group of people and this type of investigation often relied on people coming forward to give personal accounts.
He added: "We continue to face challenging investigations such as these and there are undoubtedly certain lessons to be learned for police and the wider criminal justice system from today's judgement."
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Oh, Commander Simon FOY.!
The 'head' of the triumvirate of the Madeleine 'review' team!
Foy, Campbell and Redwood.
Still think we'll see justice for Madeleine?
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If police already found out who the abductor is, there will be no need for a recon.Ribisl wrote:I don't believe for a moment that SY and the McCanns are that cosy with each other as their public statements suggest.Cristobell wrote:I understand they are appearing live on Crimewatch alongside the police. This won't be a cosy Lorraine chat or an interview where they can evade the questions. They may even be asked to appeal directly to their daughter, something they really don't like doing. I think it will be a pretty tense situation, and wouldn't miss it for the world! Who knows, given the couple's 'close' relationship DCI Redwood, he may sit the other side of Gerry, so he too can clutch onto a thigh!
It's hard to imagine the real objective of this 'reconstruction' to be nothing other than to raise public interest in an age old story and has less to do with precise reenactment of what everyone did on the night of the 3rd, which in turn could explain why the location has little importance.
The McCann PR machine must be working overtime right now in a damage limitation exercise.
So you have to question the purpose of the recon.
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I find your posts disturbing, always have, sorry to say.marconi wrote:By now, Tapas 7 must already have told the truth. Being under pressure of any police is not a party.
If T7 have told the truth, why would do you think Yard waste time trawling phone records and doing a recon?
Why not just go ahead and arrest the lot of them? eh?
If only ONE of them has fessed up, it would be enough to start the arrest.
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Good post.Lance De Boils wrote:You are not the only one.Montclair wrote:Am I the only one who finds it significant that the McCanns have refused the request of SY to take part in the reconstruction? In 2008, CM stated that the parents and their friends would be willing to take part in a Crimewatch style reconstruction which would be televised and now they are too upset! It seems that their feelings are much more important than actually finding their daughter or they know what happened and know that their participation would show up the discrepencies in their statements.
Previously, they've said that they wouldn't take part in a reconstruction if it wasn't going to be televised.
Now it is.
They still don't want to.
Previously, they said they couldn't see how it would help the investigation.
SY clearly think it would help the investigation.
They still don't want to.
They are happy to talk about Madeleine's "abduction" to the world's media.
They have been interviewed for TV, radio, papers, magazines an incredible number of times since 2007.
Kate has penned a book describing images of horrific abuse of their little girl.
They have stood, staring at huge billboard photographs of their "missing" daughter.
They have produced their own "documentaries."
They have produced their own "reconstrution" of snippets of that night's events, in PDL.
They have spoken at the Leveson enquiry about their experience.
They have advertised their limited company and pleaded for money all over the place.
They have chosen to start legal proceedings with those who dare question them.
They allowed details of their sex life to be front page news.
Yet, when it comes to cooperating with SY and assisting them with their investigation into finding their daughter...
- the very daughter, they are currently trying to convince a judge, that the search for whom was severely damaged
- at a cost of millions
- an investigation that they insist they wanted and demanded
...they don't want to take part because it'd be too upsetting to re-live it?
...they don't want it to be filmed in Portugal in case it upsets the "f*k*ng t*ss*rs"?
Sure.
Says it all isnt it? They're not fooling people or the Yard.
You have to wonder why they did not object to the Yard's recon with all the usual excuses? Could it be they dare not.
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By Tracey Kandohla, Andy Lines
Madeleine McCann: Police closing in on suspects and are ready to make arrests
7 Oct 2013 00:00
The missing youngster’s parents are preparing to make a heart-felt TV plea directly to her kidnapper on the BBC show
Appeal: Kate and Gerry McCann will appear on Crimewatch
The only certainty in the Madeleine McCann case is that someone, somewhere knows what has happened to her.
And the missing youngster’s parents Kate and Gerry are now preparing to make a heart-felt TV plea directly to her kidnapper in a bid to find their daughter, six years after she vanished.
The couple, both 45, are convinced the person who snatched her from their holiday apartment in Portugal or who has her now will see the Crimewatch appeal begging them to give her back.
And police believe the widespread publicity leading up to the screening could even lead to arrests during the BBC show, which can be seen anywhere in the world online.
Kate and Gerry will tell the kidnapper, or those who know the person: “It is never too late to do the right thing.”
A family source said: “Kate and Gerry hope whoever has their daughter, or any of their family and friends, will see their new appeal and come forward. Someone knows where she is.
“Millions of viewers are due to watch this appeal which could lead to a significant new breakthrough.
"We are hoping witnesses with vital information will call in and that arrests will be made.
"There could even be arrests as the show is being screened which has happened with previous Crimewatch appeals.
"Kate and Gerry want the kidnapper to know: ‘This will never go away until we have found Madeleine. We want this nightmare to be over for everyone.’
“No one apart from the kidnapper and possibly friends and family know where Madeleine is.
"Kate and Gerry desperately want that person to come forward.”
Former chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre Jim Gamble also believes the kidnapper will watch the appeal.
He spoke after the Sunday Mirror yesterday told how detectives are following a lead after a barrister told of an alleged sighting of the girl on a Mediterranean island.
Mr Gamble said: “I have absolutely no doubt about it. Their conscience will be a problem.
“They will be continuing to look over their shoulder waiting for the knock on the door.
"They will not be able to avoid this, the global reach of the media. They need to recognise that WE are closing in on them.
“I believe in my lifetime we will find what happened to Madeleine.
"I believe the way human conscience works means the kidnapper will be found out in the end.
“Some people have no conscience and don’t worry about what they did.
"But they worry about getting caught and those who suspect them.
"It’s never too late to do the right thing or to share that piece of information you think meant nothing.”
Former GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry, from Rothley, Leicestershire, will make their TV appeal live next Monday at Cardiff’s BBC studios.
The 9pm show is to also feature the first-ever reconstruction of the night Madeleine, who would now be 10, was snatched from the Praia da Luz apartment in May 2007 as her parents dined out nearby.
But requests to film the youngster’s bedroom, which has not been changed since she vanished, or inside their home were turned down.
Snatch: One artist's impression of suspected kidnapper
And Kate and Gerry, who also have eight-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, were too upset to take part in the re-enactment of their daughter’s last night with them.
They could not bear seeing a lookalike of Madeleine, played by a three-year-old actor.
Crimewatch filmed the scenes, which will also be screened in Holland and Germany, in Spain. But Portuguese TV will not air the appeal.
Scotland Yard detectives, who are leading the global hunt for Madeleine, are increasingly confident they could make an arrest in the coming days as a result of progress in the investigation.
They have already identified 41 potential suspects around Europe, 15 of whom are British.
Officers are also analysing mobile phone data of people who used their handsets in Praia da Luz on the Algarve the day Madeleine was taken.
Kate and Gerry believe their daughter is still alive and have never given up hope of finding her.
During the Crimewatch show, the couple will also make a fresh appeal to the public for help. Detectives are to release a new line of inquiry which they hope will bring new leads.
The pair said the evidence “will take us a step closer to finding Madeleine and bringing those responsible for her abduction to justice”.
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EX CEOP GAMBLE JUST CAN'T PLAYING COP, CAN HE?
HE STILL THINKS THE INVESTIGATION REVOLVES AROUND HIM!
HE'S NOT EVEN A COP!
By Tracey Kandohla, Andy Lines
Madeleine McCann: Police closing in on suspects and are ready to make arrests
7 Oct 2013 00:00
The missing youngster’s parents are preparing to make a heart-felt TV plea directly to her kidnapper on the BBC show
Appeal: Kate and Gerry McCann will appear on Crimewatch
The only certainty in the Madeleine McCann case is that someone, somewhere knows what has happened to her.
And the missing youngster’s parents Kate and Gerry are now preparing to make a heart-felt TV plea directly to her kidnapper in a bid to find their daughter, six years after she vanished.
The couple, both 45, are convinced the person who snatched her from their holiday apartment in Portugal or who has her now will see the Crimewatch appeal begging them to give her back.
And police believe the widespread publicity leading up to the screening could even lead to arrests during the BBC show, which can be seen anywhere in the world online.
Kate and Gerry will tell the kidnapper, or those who know the person: “It is never too late to do the right thing.”
A family source said: “Kate and Gerry hope whoever has their daughter, or any of their family and friends, will see their new appeal and come forward. Someone knows where she is.
“Millions of viewers are due to watch this appeal which could lead to a significant new breakthrough.
"We are hoping witnesses with vital information will call in and that arrests will be made.
"There could even be arrests as the show is being screened which has happened with previous Crimewatch appeals.
"Kate and Gerry want the kidnapper to know: ‘This will never go away until we have found Madeleine. We want this nightmare to be over for everyone.’
“No one apart from the kidnapper and possibly friends and family know where Madeleine is.
"Kate and Gerry desperately want that person to come forward.”
Former chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre Jim Gamble also believes the kidnapper will watch the appeal.
He spoke after the Sunday Mirror yesterday told how detectives are following a lead after a barrister told of an alleged sighting of the girl on a Mediterranean island.
Mr Gamble said: “I have absolutely no doubt about it. Their conscience will be a problem.
“They will be continuing to look over their shoulder waiting for the knock on the door.
"They will not be able to avoid this, the global reach of the media. They need to recognise that WE are closing in on them.
“I believe in my lifetime we will find what happened to Madeleine.
"I believe the way human conscience works means the kidnapper will be found out in the end.
“Some people have no conscience and don’t worry about what they did.
"But they worry about getting caught and those who suspect them.
"It’s never too late to do the right thing or to share that piece of information you think meant nothing.”
Former GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry, from Rothley, Leicestershire, will make their TV appeal live next Monday at Cardiff’s BBC studios.
The 9pm show is to also feature the first-ever reconstruction of the night Madeleine, who would now be 10, was snatched from the Praia da Luz apartment in May 2007 as her parents dined out nearby.
But requests to film the youngster’s bedroom, which has not been changed since she vanished, or inside their home were turned down.
Snatch: One artist's impression of suspected kidnapper
And Kate and Gerry, who also have eight-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, were too upset to take part in the re-enactment of their daughter’s last night with them.
They could not bear seeing a lookalike of Madeleine, played by a three-year-old actor.
Crimewatch filmed the scenes, which will also be screened in Holland and Germany, in Spain. But Portuguese TV will not air the appeal.
Scotland Yard detectives, who are leading the global hunt for Madeleine, are increasingly confident they could make an arrest in the coming days as a result of progress in the investigation.
They have already identified 41 potential suspects around Europe, 15 of whom are British.
Officers are also analysing mobile phone data of people who used their handsets in Praia da Luz on the Algarve the day Madeleine was taken.
Kate and Gerry believe their daughter is still alive and have never given up hope of finding her.
During the Crimewatch show, the couple will also make a fresh appeal to the public for help. Detectives are to release a new line of inquiry which they hope will bring new leads.
The pair said the evidence “will take us a step closer to finding Madeleine and bringing those responsible for her abduction to justice”.
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EX CEOP GAMBLE JUST CAN'T PLAYING COP, CAN HE?
HE STILL THINKS THE INVESTIGATION REVOLVES AROUND HIM!
HE'S NOT EVEN A COP!
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Oh dear gerry you have put your feet in your mouth haven't you
You mention about kids cry when they are getting bathed, when they are tired, when we are doing that and then he says
" And we did wonder if that was when they were being put to bed"
The brain knows what it knows and wants to tell the truth.
So gerry, who was putting them to bed if it wasn't you and kate?
If it had been either of you then the question would never have arisen as you would have been there.
This leads to the question of if they were being put to bed in apt 5a where were you and kate and who was putting them to bed?
If you and kate were in apt 5a where were the children being put to bed and again by whom?
At 4:19
Oh dear gerry you have put your feet in your mouth haven't you
You mention about kids cry when they are getting bathed, when they are tired, when we are doing that and then he says
" And we did wonder if that was when they were being put to bed"
The brain knows what it knows and wants to tell the truth.
So gerry, who was putting them to bed if it wasn't you and kate?
If it had been either of you then the question would never have arisen as you would have been there.
This leads to the question of if they were being put to bed in apt 5a where were you and kate and who was putting them to bed?
If you and kate were in apt 5a where were the children being put to bed and again by whom?
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For me it looks pink: a sign Clarrie is still keeping an eye on them???Truthandjustice wrote:ultimaThule wrote:
Anyone else clock Gerry's handmade suit with the flash red lining last Friday? Still made him look like the pugnacious pratt he is.I noticed the red lining. It reminded me of what GA said about the bull waiting in the ring, an GMc waving the red rag at him.
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It does not matter,I allow you to find my posts disturbing. It is your right. Redwood talked about "new witnesses evidence", those witnesses were already there and imo they changed their statements, exaiyoyo wrote:I find your posts disturbing, always have, sorry to say.marconi wrote:By now, Tapas 7 must already have told the truth. Being under pressure of any police is not a party.
If T7 have told the truth, why would do you think Yard waste time trawling phone records and doing a recon?
Why not just go ahead and arrest the lot of them? eh?
If only ONE of them has fessed up, it would be enough to start the arrest.
changing their status of suspects for witnesses. Andy said that those new witnesses evidence brought the Yard from review to investigation. Imo, Tapas 7 are among them and it is even possible that they are the only ones, although I believe Tapas 10 has seen the body too.
Who said that the Yard is trawling Phone records and doing a recon? The Yard could be lying.
And why not arresting the culprits? The pollice must have a good reason for not doing so. They need a confession, the culprits have to point the grave otherwise they will say: "somebody else did it, we have no idea who put the body there. she was alive when she was abducted." and how to prove otherwise?
Besides Tapas 7 could be lying too, the defense lawyer would say, and we would get again "there is a hole in the bucket, dear Lisa, dear Lisa"...
The grave must be pointed by the perpetratos themselves and the police need their confessions.
Imo, the police know where the body is.
If Tapas 7 told the truth, and I believe they did, otherwise they would be stating in the hearing, the couple are the left overs, and they must be under a terrible pressure, imo.
They will crack.
all in my opinion.
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Marconi wrote:
t does not matter,I allow you to find my posts disturbing. It is your right.
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I'm relieved that we have your permission to find them disturbing, having been given that right may we also find them supremely irritating? Or is that not allowed?
This is a forum to exchange opinions, theories and information. Says it all really.
t does not matter,I allow you to find my posts disturbing. It is your right.
Unquote
I'm relieved that we have your permission to find them disturbing, having been given that right may we also find them supremely irritating? Or is that not allowed?
This is a forum to exchange opinions, theories and information. Says it all really.
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I'll second that tigger.tigger wrote:Marconi wrote:
t does not matter,I allow you to find my posts disturbing. It is your right.
Unquote
I'm relieved that we have your permission to find them disturbing, having been given that right may we also find them supremely irritating? Or is that not allowed?
This is a forum to exchange opinions, theories and information. Says it all really.
@marconi,
jeanmonroe made a valid post earlier in this thread and within two minutes you posted nonsense about retracting something you'd said re Charles Lindburgh (which you couldn't find) and I found that quite disrespectful to the previous post.
I allow you to be irritated at my opinion as it is your right.
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Yes, of course, Tigger, you may find my posts supremely irritating, go ahead. No problem for me at all.tigger wrote:Marconi wrote:
t does not matter,I allow you to find my posts disturbing. It is your right.
Unquote
I'm relieved that we have your permission to find them disturbing, having been given that right may we also find them supremely irritating? Or is that not allowed?
This is a forum to exchange opinions, theories and information. Says it all really.
If it is a forum to also exchange theories, opinions, I have mine too.
By chance they seem to be different and even the opposit to yours and to ayoyo's, but I can not see the problem. We live in a democracy, don't we?
What is irritating in my posts, if I may ask. The fact that I believe that it is not a whitewash? I can't help it. It is my belief.
The police need a concrete proof of the death,the body, not only witnesses statements.Imo, it would not be enough. The culprits would stay 3 days in the police station and freeded because of lack of concrete evidence.
For a moment, short ago, I thought it was a whitewash. But It isn't.
The reality is that we all have to wait and find out who is right and who is wrong.
all in my opinion
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where is Monroe's post?aquila wrote:I'll second that tigger.tigger wrote:Marconi wrote:
t does not matter,I allow you to find my posts disturbing. It is your right.
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I'm relieved that we have your permission to find them disturbing, having been given that right may we also find them supremely irritating? Or is that not allowed?
This is a forum to exchange opinions, theories and information. Says it all really.
@marconi,
jeanmonroe made a valid post earlier in this thread and within two minutes you posted nonsense about retracting something you'd said re Charles Lindburgh (which you couldn't find) and I found that quite disrespectful to the previous post.
I allow you to be irritated at my opinion as it is your right.
i'mo not irritated with anyone.
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Firstly marconi, it is jeanmonroe and not Monroe (please afford people their correct name) and secondly you wouldn't need to scroll back too many pages to find it but just to assist you (as do quite a lot of people on this forum as you never seem to be able to find anything or provide a link to anything )it was made at 12.16am and followed by your totally irrelevant post at 12.18am.marconi wrote:where is Monroe's post?aquila wrote:I'll second that tigger.tigger wrote:Marconi wrote:
t does not matter,I allow you to find my posts disturbing. It is your right.
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I'm relieved that we have your permission to find them disturbing, having been given that right may we also find them supremely irritating? Or is that not allowed?
This is a forum to exchange opinions, theories and information. Says it all really.
@marconi,
jeanmonroe made a valid post earlier in this thread and within two minutes you posted nonsense about retracting something you'd said re Charles Lindburgh (which you couldn't find) and I found that quite disrespectful to the previous post.
I allow you to be irritated at my opinion as it is your right.
i'mo not irritated with anyone.
I just want to add marconi, without derailing this thread (it's early in the morning so no doubt things will get back on topic very soon) that your posts are disturbing because you seldom quote fact/provide links and you make predictions as if they are indeed fact or based in facts of any sort.
I'd like to point out that there are many people on this forum (and I'm in complete awe of them) who have researched, contributed and been totally dedicated to the facts of this terrible case. For you to roll up and give crystal ball predictions in a rather bullish manner sometimes I find disrespectful not only to the very clever and dedicated people but also to Madeleine.
There, I've said it now and I hope the thread can get back on track.
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McCanns' TV plea to kidnapper...
Well, it's only taken them 6 years to do that.
But isn't she being held in a hellish lair in the lawless hills of PDL? Why not make a plea on Portuguese TV?
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"And police believe the widespread publicity leading up to the screening could even lead to arrests during the BBC show, which can be seen anywhere in the world online."
In normal Crimewatch reports when they discuss a crime or incident they ask viewers if they can help they show pictures of wanted people they wish to talk to. They sometimes only have photofits or descriptions of the clothing. The viewers do ring in and in the later programme or sometimes during Crimewatch they do announce that a person has been detained.
So the suggestion that in this case it "could even lead to an arrest" is possible but I think doubtful. Since we have several photofits of what the abductor is supposed to look like.
I think it's just to gain readership as ever.
In normal Crimewatch reports when they discuss a crime or incident they ask viewers if they can help they show pictures of wanted people they wish to talk to. They sometimes only have photofits or descriptions of the clothing. The viewers do ring in and in the later programme or sometimes during Crimewatch they do announce that a person has been detained.
So the suggestion that in this case it "could even lead to an arrest" is possible but I think doubtful. Since we have several photofits of what the abductor is supposed to look like.
I think it's just to gain readership as ever.
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Oh Lordie Lordie Lordie Lord, it's getting worst (or stupidier, pardon me for saying) your logic of argument.marconi wrote:It does not matter,I allow you to find my posts disturbing. It is your right. Redwood talked about "new witnesses evidence", those witnesses were already there and imo they changed their statements, exaiyoyo wrote:I find your posts disturbing, always have, sorry to say.marconi wrote:By now, Tapas 7 must already have told the truth. Being under pressure of any police is not a party.
If T7 have told the truth, why would do you think Yard waste time trawling phone records and doing a recon?
Why not just go ahead and arrest the lot of them? eh?
If only ONE of them has fessed up, it would be enough to start the arrest.
changing their status of suspects for witnesses. Andy said that those new witnesses evidence brought the Yard from review to investigation. Imo, Tapas 7 are among them and it is even possible that they are the only ones, although I believe Tapas 10 has seen the body too.
Who said that the Yard is trawling Phone records and doing a recon? The Yard could be lying.
And why not arresting the culprits? The pollice must have a good reason for not doing so. They need a confession, the culprits have to point the grave otherwise they will say: "somebody else did it, we have no idea who put the body there. she was alive when she was abducted." and how to prove otherwise?
Besides Tapas 7 could be lying too, the defense lawyer would say, and we would get again "there is a hole in the bucket, dear Lisa, dear Lisa"...
The grave must be pointed by the perpetratos themselves and the police need their confessions.
Imo, the police know where the body is.
If Tapas 7 told the truth, and I believe they did, otherwise they would be stating in the hearing, the couple are the left overs, and they must be under a terrible pressure, imo.
They will crack.
all in my opinion.
In fact every one of your argument is self defeating. Have you seriously listened to yourself?
I should have put your posts on ignored, as is my right.
I don't believe posters (I've noticed quite a few, me included) who find you irritating need your permission to be irked, thank you.
You harp on about Yard's new evidence as coming from T7, whatever, .....where's your proof to substantiate it?
If the T7 had changed their statements, as you seemed to believe and harped on incessantly, that is enough to arrest them for perjury or perverting the course of justice, do you not have the ? ( I wont spell it out or it will come across as rude) to realise it?
You said the Yard could be lying about the phone trawling and recon. Are you out of your mind?
The recon is scheduled to be aired on BBC on the 14th!
You said the Police know where the BODY is? Really? What are they waiting for then?
Where is the logic in any of the above you posted? Hey?
I cant make up my mind whether you're barking or trolling, but from now on I will put you on ignore.
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'We're ready to make arrests' but we need more information and we're broadcasting a pre-planned 'reconstruction' to be aired in 4 countries (not Portugal though) and we're giving you a week's notice and the McCanns (who are in the middle of a libel trial in Portugal - sshhhh) will be live in a studio in Cardiff to make a direct appeal to the kidnappers.ufercoffy wrote:McCanns' TV plea to kidnapper...candyfloss wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]bristow wrote:Hi Maebee, is this the front page for tomorrow?maebee wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Well, it's only taken them 6 years to do that.
But isn't she being held in a hellish lair in the lawless hills of PDL? Why not make a plea on Portuguese TV?
Abductors/kidnappers/burglars. Dontya just love the UK Press?
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Will the McCann's be analysed giving their appeal, I'm thinking back to the terrible Philpott case where the Policeman who sat alongside was suspicious throughout the whole appeal.
Maybe that is the whole reason for making them appeal.
I'm trying to find something to make me feel that this isn't a whitewash, I'm struggling though.
Maybe that is the whole reason for making them appeal.
I'm trying to find something to make me feel that this isn't a whitewash, I'm struggling though.
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Are we expected to believe there's going to a public arrest soon, of the kind that will cause RIOTS, like certain Mrs. posited?
Or are the Papers just speculating? Depending how certain people interpret it, this speculation may actually raise heart pressure.
Or are the Papers just speculating? Depending how certain people interpret it, this speculation may actually raise heart pressure.
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Me too, Bristow. There have been so many previous moments with the McCanns' behaviour in interviews and elsewhere and nobody in authority has taken any notice, so what chance is there that they will now?
A reminder of one of their finest acting moments in this clip from the day before the first anniversary; what happened at 2.40 is very telling.
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I'm sure that anyone else caught behaving like that would have been rounded up very quickly.
A reminder of one of their finest acting moments in this clip from the day before the first anniversary; what happened at 2.40 is very telling.
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This has narrowed the search down a lot.
Tracey Kandhola has excelled herself.
The kidnapper has Madeleine safe and well - So she is NOT in a Hellish Lair - (Don't know if Edgar is going to comment on that, or give the money back)
He has BBC TV, either direct or by satellite
He watches main stream programmes
He has a conscience
This conscience will be pricked by the programme and he will then give himself up, confess and hand Madeleine back
He is within 20 minutes walk or drive of a police station, so he can be arrested whilst the programme is being shown . .
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Tracey Kandhola has excelled herself.
The kidnapper has Madeleine safe and well - So she is NOT in a Hellish Lair - (Don't know if Edgar is going to comment on that, or give the money back)
He has BBC TV, either direct or by satellite
He watches main stream programmes
He has a conscience
This conscience will be pricked by the programme and he will then give himself up, confess and hand Madeleine back
He is within 20 minutes walk or drive of a police station, so he can be arrested whilst the programme is being shown . .
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So, so telling NFWTD.No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Me too, Bristow. There have been so many previous moments with the McCanns' behaviour in interviews and elsewhere and nobody in authority has taken any notice, so what chance is there that they will now?
A reminder of one of their finest acting moments in this clip from the day before the first anniversary; what happened at 2.40 is very telling.
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I'm sure that anyone else caught behaving like that would have been rounded up very quickly.
They really are being kept in a gilded cage, as you say noone in authority seems to take any notice of these extreme anomolies, the same as the interview where Gerry storms off!
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Marconi I see you have come in for some criticism from some forum members. We're all entitled to a reasonable and fair opinion. I for one like some of your lateral thoughts. It helps to get out of the box and look at all possible scenarios. It makes sense to interview the T7 at the beginning of the investigation process, there are so many holes in their Portugese testimonies and the outcome could be a very welcome back to the real world for them. Also it may account for their non appearance at the libel trial. Without their assistance and in the event of things going against the McCanns the T7 are up to their necks in it big time. They all have families and responsibilities, if given the chance of baling out and telling the truth in exchange for whatever lesser outcome ask yourself the question...
What would you do?
So as Marconi says a lot of the scene may already be set. As Mr Redwood intentions the Yard knows pretty much of what happened that night 3rd May 2007. The crime watch program will need to be plausible and credible otherwise there will be a lot of questions asked by many people around the world and if the assumptions/evidence don't support the content of the program and the new SY theories then a lot of people are going to look naive. Cameron, May, Howe, Patten, the British Police, Producers and Presenters, the public and Great Britain... And thats not an option for the sake of protecting 2 child neglecters.
What would you do?
So as Marconi says a lot of the scene may already be set. As Mr Redwood intentions the Yard knows pretty much of what happened that night 3rd May 2007. The crime watch program will need to be plausible and credible otherwise there will be a lot of questions asked by many people around the world and if the assumptions/evidence don't support the content of the program and the new SY theories then a lot of people are going to look naive. Cameron, May, Howe, Patten, the British Police, Producers and Presenters, the public and Great Britain... And thats not an option for the sake of protecting 2 child neglecters.
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Hi Bristow,bristow wrote:Will the McCann's be analysed giving their appeal, I'm thinking back to the terrible Philpott case where the Policeman who sat alongside was suspicious throughout the whole appeal.
Maybe that is the whole reason for making them appeal.
I'm trying to find something to make me feel that this isn't a whitewash, I'm struggling though.
I'm kind of optimistic that this is exactly what they are going to do. The analysis that is commonly used is known as NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) and uses analytical techniques to assess a person's responses in the form of eye movement, body language and also vocal responses such as: ermms, errs etc. NLP training is widely provided in the UK to all sorts of enforcement authorities and not just the Police.
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Astonishing, isn't it?No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Me too, Bristow. There have been so many previous moments with the McCanns' behaviour in interviews and elsewhere and nobody in authority has taken any notice, so what chance is there that they will now?
A reminder of one of their finest acting moments in this clip from the day before the first anniversary; what happened at 2.40 is very telling.
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I'm sure that anyone else caught behaving like that would have been rounded up very quickly.
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