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Post by Guest 06.10.13 1:53

Oh my goodness look at this.....


'The pieces of the jigsaw are now fitting together': Missing Maddie's parents 'greatly encouraged' by new mobile phone evidence as probe spreads to Holland and Germany



  • Scotland Yard trawled calls made by people staying in the holiday resort






  • The force believes evidence could shed light on Maddie's disappearance






  • A Crimewatch special this month will launch a new appeal for information










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As a result, the TV special will be aired on British, German and Dutch television.

It will feature an interview with the McCanns, while highlighting new leads uncovered by police.
The programme will also feature  a reconstruction of events in the  Portuguese resort on the night Madeleine disappeared.

However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from  taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.



Instead they have allowed filming to go ahead in neighbouring Spain, with actors playing the roles of the anguished couple.

A three-year-old child actress, bearing a striking similarity to their daughter, will double as Madeleine.
Crimewatch editor Joe Mather said: ‘We are very hopeful this major reconstruction, along with the substantial new lines of enquiry, will prompt viewers with vital information to get in touch with officers in the studio.’


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Post by Guest 06.10.13 1:56

I can't believe I have just read this..............


However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from  taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.

Instead they have allowed filming to go ahead in neighbouring Spain, with actors playing the roles of the anguished
couple.




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Post by sharonl 06.10.13 2:03

We are told that the Portuguese police have cleared the McCanns and that they are working alongside officers from Scotland Yard. If any of this is true, what possible reason would there be for the PJ to be angered by a reconstruction?

Unless of course the McCanns have other reasons for not wanting the PJ to see this, which of course they will, even if it is with Spanish subtitles.

Or have the McCanns been prevented from showing this in Portugal?
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Post by tasprin 06.10.13 2:04

The McCanns have BANNED the reconstruction from taking place in Portugal!!!

So the McCanns are running the £5m taxpayer funded Scotland Yard investigation - not the police. Oh well, should've guessed.
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Post by gbwales 06.10.13 2:05

So it's not a reconstruction at all, it's a worthless dramatisation of a/their version of events.

Pathetic.

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I thought it was the Met in charge of this investigation, seems not, the McCanns have banned filming Portugal and have allowed filming in Spain. This from twitter.........


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Post by sharonl 06.10.13 2:16

Head of crack Met team DCI Andy Redwood and editor and producer of BBC Crimewatch Team: "We'll be doing this reconstruction in Portugal".

Gerry and Kate McCann: "Oh no you won't. We're banning you from doing that".

Head of crack Met team DCI Andy Redwood and editor and producer of BBC Crimewatch Team: "Whoops, sorry. Go ahead and tell us exactly how you want the reconstruction done, Gerry..."
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Post by Truthandjustice 06.10.13 2:18

They don't want to anger the Portuguese police?  Clever, not only have they made a fantasy that they call a reconstruction they can also cover themselves in case those nasty angry foreign policemen try to 'frame' them.
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Post by ShuBob 06.10.13 2:18

Hang on. It's the McCanns producing the reconstruction to be shown on Crimewatch where they are scheduled to sit beside Andy Redwood?

Words fail me.
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Post by gbwales 06.10.13 2:20

The Portuguese police always wanted a full reconstruction.
How dare the McCanns talk such crap.
Do they take the Met, the media and the public for idiots? 

For crying out loud, someone needs to call their bluff and officially welcome a full reconstruction *now*.

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Post by gbwales 06.10.13 2:23

If the reconstruction does not use the actual location and testified timings and movements, or replicates them in a computer model exactly replicating the location then there is NO way it can possibly be described as a reconstruction. It's pointless and worthless and should not be dignified with TV airtime.

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Post by ShuBob 06.10.13 2:26

Actually, I'm not sure I believe this story. The implication is that the Portuguese are NOT involved with this appeal 🇪🇭 
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gbwales wrote:If the reconstruction does not use the actual location and testified timings and movements, or replicates them in a computer model exactly replicating the location then there is NO way it can possibly be described as a reconstruction. It's pointless and worthless and should not be dignified with TV airtime.
Exactly!

Why Spain? They may as well do it in Rothley for all it's usefulness.
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Post by ultimaThule 06.10.13 2:29

"However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from  taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.



Instead they have allowed filming to go ahead in neighbouring Spain, with actors playing the roles of the anguished couple."

No doubt the actors will give a more convincing performance of being 'anguished' than poor Madeleine's parents have ever done but I'm curious to know who will be playing the starring roles - Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie?

At least we know what to expect on the 14th - a made for tv melodrama loosely based on the fictional story of an abducted 3 year old and when the credits roll I will be looking for the name 'Emma Loach'.
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Post by Guest 06.10.13 2:37

ShuBob, I think it must be correct about not being in Portugal as the BBC have just put a new story up and it says (note the word abroad and not Portugal) now why would the BBC not tell us the location, if it was in Portugal, I'm sure they would have said so.....typical.


 Madeleine McCann's parents 'greatly encouraged' by new inquiry

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A three-year-old actress will play Madeleine in the Crimewatch reconstruction. A small production team from the programme spent a week filming abroad for the new appeal

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Post by Tony Bennett 06.10.13 2:44

The British taxpayer pays for DCI Andy Redwood, and his team of - now 43 - Metropoloitan Police officers.

And has done for the past 2 years and 5 months.

The licence-fee payer is paying for this BBC Crimewatch event.

In both cases, those institutions must be working to a clear agenda and strategy - and with a desired result as their common goal.

They have invested a great deal of time and resources in those efforts.

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Post by ShuBob 06.10.13 2:49

candyfloss wrote:ShuBob, I think it must be correct about not being in Portugal as the BBC have just put a new story up and it says (note the word abroad and not Portugal) now why would the BBC not tell us the location, if it was in Portugal, I'm sure they would have said so.....typical.


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Thanks candyfloss.

I refuse to be outraged by what's increasingly looking like a sick joke to be played out to Crimewatch audience by the BBC shame on you 
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Post by sharonl 06.10.13 2:51

There is a first time for most things but the UK's top Police Force appealing for information on national television whilst sitting side by side with the suspects really takes the biscuit.
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Post by ultimaThule 06.10.13 2:54

"However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from  taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police."

I would imagine there aren't many hotels in Portugal, let alone the Alargave, willing to accomodate the McCanns and/or their entourage. 

Judging from the opinons being expressed on t'internet, I predict A&E's up and down the country will be full to bursting with apoplexy sufferers shortly after the screening of the K&G show on the 14th.
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Post by Truthandjustice 06.10.13 2:55

sharonl wrote:There is a first time for most things but the UK's top Police Force appealing for information on national television whilst sitting side by side with the suspects really takes the biscuit.
What on earth must the PJ think of this 'Metropolitan response'??  It beggars belief.
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Post by ShuBob 06.10.13 2:58

Daily Mail wrote:In a joint statement, they said: ‘We are really hopeful the forthcoming appeal on Crimewatch will bring further new evidence which will take us a step closer to finding Madeleine and to bringing those responsible for her abduction to justice.’
Joint statement? Haven't all their statements been joint? Why state the obvious? I wonder if the Mail is being crafty considering the separation story that's doing the rounds.
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Truthandjustice wrote:
sharonl wrote:There is a first time for most things but the UK's top Police Force appealing for information on national television whilst sitting side by side with the suspects really takes the biscuit.
What on earth must the PJ think of this 'Metropolitan response'??  It beggars belief.
Unless this is a cover? I'm trying to be positive here but even I am struggling!
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Post by marconi 06.10.13 3:05

this is bull shit.

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Post by Woofer 06.10.13 3:13

Just when you think they can`t get away with anymore of this farce, we get this.

I get the feeling the Daily Mail is on a wind-up, saying things like the McCanns have banned the reconstruction from taking place in Portugal - no one can ban the police from doing an investigation how they want, unless it Crimewatch they`re banning and not the police.

Also the Mail`s use of the words `the McCanns have allowed`etc.

Perhaps the Mail are trying to provoke the public`s anger by getting everyone to think the McCanns have more power than they actually do.
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Post by marconi 06.10.13 3:19

Woofer wrote:Just when you think they can`t get away with anymore of this farce, we get this.

I get the feeling the Daily Mail is on a wind-up, saying things like the McCanns have banned the reconstruction from taking place in Portugal - no one can ban the police from doing an investigation how they want, unless it Crimewatch they`re banning and not the police.

Also the Mail`s use of the words `the McCanns have allowed`etc.

Perhaps the Mail are trying to provoke the public`s anger by getting everyone to think the McCanns have more power than they actually do.
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Post by ultimaThule 06.10.13 3:24

Woofer wrote:Just when you think they can`t get away with anymore of this farce, we get this.

I get the feeling the Daily Mail is on a wind-up, saying things like the McCanns have banned the reconstruction from taking place in Portugal - no one can ban the police from doing an investigation how they want, unless it Crimewatch they`re banning and not the police.

Also the Mail`s use of the words `the McCanns have allowed`etc.

Perhaps the Mail are trying to provoke the public`s anger by getting everyone to think the McCanns have more power than they actually do.
Interestingly, the Fail didn't do it's usual trick of severly restricting/limiting comments on one of its McCann puffs pieces yesterday, Woofer:  [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Post by Woofer 06.10.13 3:28

ultimaThule wrote:
Woofer wrote:Just when you think they can`t get away with anymore of this farce, we get this.

I get the feeling the Daily Mail is on a wind-up, saying things like the McCanns have banned the reconstruction from taking place in Portugal - no one can ban the police from doing an investigation how they want, unless it Crimewatch they`re banning and not the police.

Also the Mail`s use of the words `the McCanns have allowed`etc.

Perhaps the Mail are trying to provoke the public`s anger by getting everyone to think the McCanns have more power than they actually do.
Interestingly, the Fail didn't do it's usual trick of severly restricting/limiting comments on one of its McCann puffs pieces yesterday, Woofer:  [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Well if the MSM are prohibited from saying anything negative about the McCanns (which its obvious they are), I suppose they can do it by transference, i.e. getting others to do it for them !

P.S. I was about to turn my light out and thought I`d just take a quick look at this forum and bingo - I had to get up and go on my PC.
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Post by jd 06.10.13 3:33

candyfloss wrote:Oh my goodness look at this.....


'The pieces of the jigsaw are now fitting together': Missing Maddie's parents 'greatly encouraged' by new mobile phone evidence as probe spreads to Holland and Germany


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[*]Scotland Yard trawled calls made by people staying in the holiday resort
I hope our trusted and honest big grin SY will be analysing these mobile phone calls

"Robert Murat turned his mobile back on after a long silent interval at 2320 on 3 May. One of his first calls was from Sergi Malinka, his computer guru. But at least one hour before KM raised the alarm, Sergi and his friends were chatting profusely by phone, leading me to wonder whether word of “something” had got out before the official announcement by Kate.

The vital piece of evidence, however, is this: RM’s mobile phone silence had begun at 1545 on 2 May, and ended at 2320 on 3 May just after KM’s shout. That’s 31h 35m of silence. Gerry had been taking numerous calls made to his voicemail box on 2 May, and effectively the last of these was at 1549. He postponed listening to this until around 2015, at which point he turned off his mobile. He took just one incoming call at 1224 on 3 May, then his mobile fell silent again until 2314. Since he didn’t make a single outgoing call during that period, and used voicemail to eliminate any possibility of identification of his callers, we can say that his period of silence (compare the figure with Murat’s) was of 31h 25m.

This is inexplicable unless you come to the conclusion that GM and RM were in cahoots, and the silence was akin to the military golden rule, of communications silence to avoid any possibility of compromise before the action kicks off.
I then consider in more detail those 12 voicemail messages which GM received on 2 May. The PJ never found out who they came from, but by any standards it was a busy eight hours for Gerry, no doubt with pen and paper in hand to take down detailed instructions and timings. As I’ve said, he postponed listening to the last two for some reason. KM’s claim that Gerry was so busy at work that he had to keep in touch with his department, is given the lie by the fact that he didn’t actually speak to anybody, and never responded with a single outgoing call.

Putting all of this together, I’m satisfied that the tragic event had not only taken place by 0800 on 2 May, but that sufficient time had passed between the event and 0800 on 2 May for Gerry to start to receive detailed plans beginning at that time.
So theoretically, death around 2345 on 1 May is still possible, although we have no indication of frantic phone communications during that night as we would expect. Which leads us neatly to those six contacts (texts or calls?) on KM’s mobile from 2216 – 2228 on that evening. (According to Mrs Fenn’s account, the crying of Madeleine started at 2230).

Might that really be the time of the tragedy? I doubt it. Look at it this way: wouldn’t we have expected some normal, “chatty” contact between the two McCanns and their Tapas chums, or with family, on 1 May and 30 April? We have absolutely none. 48 hours without mobile contact. I believe that represents 48 hours during which something very concealed was going on. And then suddenly Kate has to make six contacts in 12 minutes just before the long period when, according to Mrs Fenn , Maddie was crying. I don’t believe there is any logic which points to the tragic event happening at that time.

So I return to investigate the calls made by RM’s mobile, and in a 14 minute period between 2200 and 2214 I find six texts apparently being transmitted between his mobile and Michaela Walczuch’s. Now, as an inveterate ex-communications-intelligence jobsworth, I look at those bursts of six messages beginning at 2200 and ending at 2228 and I say “something fishy’s going on here.”
Putting this together with RM’s and Gerry’s coinciding 31-hour silences of the following day, I believe that Murat’s and Walczuch’s mobiles were being used to transmit stuff which was vital to the cover-up of a tragedy which had happened before 2200 on 1 May.

Going back still further, it can be noted that RM booked his flight on 30 April, that the same day was highlighted by phone communications between Jenny Murat and Exeter, and that he flew to Faro and arrived at PdL around 1130 on 1 May. And we should add to the mix an unexplained call to Jane Tanner at the ungodly hour of 0415 on 29 April.

That’s about 600 pages of the phone thread condensed into little more than one page
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Post by Woofer 06.10.13 3:48

jd - have you posted that info on a separate thread here for discussion?
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Post by Grande Finale 06.10.13 3:54

I Can't Beleive I'm Hearing this.............

Is it true that Ian brady and Rose west are to play the HOLY couple in the crime watch panto ??

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