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Post by tiny 09.05.13 9:19

quite an interesting read.....Digging for Madeleine,sorry cant get the right link up
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Post by Lostfridge 09.05.13 10:09

"The gist of the bombshell information received here is this: Gerry McCann is privy to information implicating the Royal Family in the murder of Princess Diana. This was his leverage". From Chris Spivey site , now we have Stephen Birch mentioned!!

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Post by tiny 09.05.13 10:32

Lostfridge wrote:"The gist of the bombshell information received here is this: Gerry McCann is privy to information implicating the Royal Family in the murder of Princess Diana. This was his leverage". From Chris Spivey site , now we have Stephen Birch mentioned!!

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this is the bit that interested me,
Now, what you have to understand is that Stephens’s findings have been checked and double checked by experts and all are in agreement that there is a body of some sort buried there. Had that not been the case, then Stephen would have just been dismissed as another crank.

now who are these experts,anyone know,
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Post by Guest 09.05.13 10:42

It's certainly news to me that anyone else has ever endorsed Stephen Birch's findings.

Chris Spivey can't have read Mr Birch's ramblings here and on Facebook if he's really giving him credence.
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Post by littlepixie 09.05.13 10:46

If it was my house I would dig the drive up myself just to shut everyone up. I'm surprised someone hasn't already done it.
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Post by tiny 09.05.13 10:49

littlepixie wrote:If it was my house I would dig the drive up myself just to shut everyone up. I'm surprised someone hasn't already done it.

Me too, so why did murat refuse
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Post by Lostfridge 09.05.13 10:51

Clearly the Police and authorities give no credence to his findings. And I have seen no evidence whatsoever that any other 'experts' have confirmed his findings as credible.

I imagine if the PJ went about actioning work on the basis of every crackpot claim they would be kept very busy and it would cost a fortune. Murat is right not to even invite such nonsense, by agreeing to a dig he is giving these BS claims the time of day, good on him for ignoring such nonsense.
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Post by tiny 09.05.13 11:07

Lostfridge wrote:Clearly the Police and authorities give no credence to his findings. And I have seen no evidence whatsoever that any other 'experts' have confirmed his findings as credible.

I imagine if the PJ went about actioning work on the basis of every crackpot claim they would be kept very busy and it would cost a fortune. Murat is right not to even invite such nonsense, by agreeing to a dig he is giving these BS claims the time of day, good on him for ignoring such nonsense.

Yes but I am not talking about the police or authorties but Robert Murat,whats to stop him getting someone to dig up that small patch ,food for thought
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Post by Lostfridge 09.05.13 11:28

tiny wrote:
Lostfridge wrote:Clearly the Police and authorities give no credence to his findings. And I have seen no evidence whatsoever that any other 'experts' have confirmed his findings as credible.

I imagine if the PJ went about actioning work on the basis of every crackpot claim they would be kept very busy and it would cost a fortune. Murat is right not to even invite such nonsense, by agreeing to a dig he is giving these BS claims the time of day, good on him for ignoring such nonsense.

Yes but I am not talking about the police or authorities but Robert Murat,whats to stop him getting someone to dig up that small patch ,food for thought

For exactly the same reasons the authorities wouldn't do it. It would be on the basis on complete nonsense, the same reason you wouldn't dig your garden patio up if some psychic told you there was a pot of gold under there, and if you did then you are just as nuts
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Post by Guest 09.05.13 11:41

I took the time to skim-read the [very long] blog post and must say that I was surprised to read Stephen Birch's full theory, as he has formulated it now. You have to scroll down quite far, but it's worth a while ... chris spivey 302873

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11585
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Post by tiny 09.05.13 11:45

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tiny wrote:
Lostfridge wrote:Clearly the Police and authorities give no credence to his findings. And I have seen no evidence whatsoever that any other 'experts' have confirmed his findings as credible.

I imagine if the PJ went about actioning work on the basis of every crackpot claim they would be kept very busy and it would cost a fortune. Murat is right not to even invite such nonsense, by agreeing to a dig he is giving these BS claims the time of day, good on him for ignoring such nonsense.

Yes but I am not talking about the police or authorities but Robert Murat,whats to stop him getting someone to dig up that small patch ,food for thought

For exactly the same reasons the authorities wouldn't do it. It would be on the basis on complete nonsense, the same reason you wouldn't dig your garden patio up if some psychic told you there was a pot of gold under there, and if you did then you are just as nuts

hold on a moment i thought the authorities already followed up psychics reports,(i might be wrong on this) so whats the difference now.
any way my original question was ...Who are these experts
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Post by Lostfridge 09.05.13 11:52

tiny wrote:
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tiny wrote:
Lostfridge wrote:Clearly the Police and authorities give no credence to his findings. And I have seen no evidence whatsoever that any other 'experts' have confirmed his findings as credible.

I imagine if the PJ went about actioning work on the basis of every crackpot claim they would be kept very busy and it would cost a fortune. Murat is right not to even invite such nonsense, by agreeing to a dig he is giving these BS claims the time of day, good on him for ignoring such nonsense.

Yes but I am not talking about the police or authorities but Robert Murat,whats to stop him getting someone to dig up that small patch ,food for thought

For exactly the same reasons the authorities wouldn't do it. It would be on the basis on complete nonsense, the same reason you wouldn't dig your garden patio up if some psychic told you there was a pot of gold under there, and if you did then you are just as nuts

hold on a moment i thought the authorities already followed up psychics reports,(i might be wrong on this) so whats the difference now.
any way my original question was ...Who are these experts

Yep, who are these phantom experts. This article also quotes sources and info from the Huffington Post!! is that not the same site that Chelsea Hoffman writes for?..lol .its a pass from me...until some actual evidence available.... And his theory says a burial on the same night? so the dogs would of detected when they searched!!....
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Post by tigger 09.05.13 12:05

tiny wrote:
Lostfridge wrote:"The gist of the bombshell information received here is this: Gerry McCann is privy to information implicating the Royal Family in the murder of Princess Diana. This was his leverage". From Chris Spivey site , now we have Stephen Birch mentioned!!

waste of webspace
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Now, what you have to understand is that Stephens’s findings have been checked and double checked by experts and all are in agreement that there is a body of some sort buried there. Had that not been the case, then Stephen would have just been dismissed as another crank.

now who are these experts,anyone know,

This is nothing but myth. As far as I know, he was dismissed as a crank - just not soon enough. I do know about near surface geophysiscs (in fact I've used them) and I can assure you his pictures (which might as well be from his own backyard) do not show what he says they show.

Besides, the whole of the Casa Liliana garden was 'perforated' and the CSI dogs checked it over. Nothing. Not too fond of Spivey and the idiotic idea that Gerry held secret knowledge about Diana's death/murder.
Imo there was no murder, if she'd worn a seat belt she'd be alive now. If she hadn't chosen to use Dodi to make somebody jealous she'd still be alive.
Sarah Monckton, a friend of hers relates that they were both amused by the bad nouveau riche taste of the Fayads. Dodi had a cocaine habit and had a girlfriend in the USA where he wanted to become a film director. Daddy told him to court Diana.

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Post by littlepixie 09.05.13 12:22

If I had heard my daughters lost for 6 years body may be buried across the field on someones land I would be there digging it with my bare hands.

I would not be convinced by any other human being. I would have to find out for myself. Even if that meant arrest.
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Post by ShuBob 09.05.13 12:25

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littlepixie wrote:If it was my house I would dig the drive up myself just to shut everyone up. I'm surprised someone hasn't already done it.

Me too, so why did murat refuse

If he's anything like me, he wouldn't dig until the police come and dig it up themselves.
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Post by Lostfridge 09.05.13 12:58

another contradiction in this article!. Its says Tarmac may of been laid at a later date to stop the dogs digging! that would imply that Murat (who they say is not involved) would of laid the tarmac! oh unless of course the other person who buried a body came back at a later date and laid some tarmac!!. total nonsense!!
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Post by tiny 09.05.13 13:03

I don't believe a word of what SB said,all i wanted to know if any one had names to these experts .but it seems not, so let this drop of the radar
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Post by tigger 09.05.13 13:11

tiny wrote:I don't believe a word of what SB said,all i wanted to know if any one had names to these experts .but it seems not, so let this drop of the radar
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No, I was waiting for the experts to come out of the woodwork, but they've stayed firmly in SB's imagination. Sorry for flying off the handle, but imo we've got quite enough puzzles to decode without adding to them. Allegedly there are some 500 psychic leads that will have to be considered as well according to the pink one.

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Post by littlepixie 09.05.13 13:13

ShuBob wrote:
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littlepixie wrote:If it was my house I would dig the drive up myself just to shut everyone up. I'm surprised someone hasn't already done it.

Me too, so why did murat refuse

If he's anything like me, he wouldn't dig until the police come and dig it up themselves.

I know what you are saying but I couldn't live in a house knowing there may be a dead body buried in my garden. If the Police didnt come I would dig it up myself to put my mind at ease.
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Post by ShuBob 09.05.13 13:27

littlepixie wrote:
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littlepixie wrote:If it was my house I would dig the drive up myself just to shut everyone up. I'm surprised someone hasn't already done it.

Me too, so why did murat refuse

If he's anything like me, he wouldn't dig until the police come and dig it up themselves.

I know what you are saying but I couldn't live in a house knowing there may be a dead body buried in my garden. If the Police didnt come I would dig it up myself to put my mind at ease.

But the police had dug and found nothing. If he did dig again, some other nutter may suggest she's buried within the house and expect him to dig that as well. When he doesn't then it'll be open season. Best not dig and let people say what they want IMO.
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Post by aiyoyo 09.05.13 13:53

CS and SB are peas in the same pod..........barking.........
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Post by Guest 09.05.13 14:45

It's "interesting", though, isn't it, that we haven't heard for quite some time about Robert Murat and now there's within days from each other Murat wanting the T9 to come back for a reenactment and Birch "digging up" Murat's garden again ...

IMO someone's playing a game here. But which one? Smokeandmirrors?
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Post by Ciawoman 09.05.13 14:56

I found it an interesting read especially the new witness. Though as much as I'd like to buy into Stephen Birch's theory I can't. Some of it makes sense like the Smith sightings, but for the big conspiracy that would mean that Martin Grime was in on it to as in his report he search Murat's garden and found nothing.
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Post by Guest 09.05.13 15:17

Yep, it's the dogs who "kill" any new theory, don't they? Apart from: someone died in Apt.5A and there's only one person missing ...
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Post by russiandoll 09.05.13 15:19

Châtelaine wrote:It's "interesting", though, isn't it, that we haven't heard for quite some time about Robert Murat and now there's within days from each other Murat wanting the T9 to come back for a reenactment and Birch "digging up" Murat's garden again ...

IMO someone's playing a game here. But which one? Smokeandmirrors?


SB has apparently posted on his FB page about talking to the Portuguese media last weekend.

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Post by plebgate 09.05.13 15:47

I am sure Spivey will let everyone know if he has a threat to sue him from them.
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Post by Lostfridge 09.05.13 15:56

russiandoll wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:It's "interesting", though, isn't it, that we haven't heard for quite some time about Robert Murat and now there's within days from each other Murat wanting the T9 to come back for a reenactment and Birch "digging up" Murat's garden again ...

IMO someone's playing a game here. But which one? Smokeandmirrors?


SB has apparently posted on his FB page about talking to the Portuguese media last weekend.

Fantasyland. Might as well read Harry potter and the unfinished driveway!
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Post by nobodythereeither 09.05.13 20:23

tiny wrote:I don't believe a word of what SB said,all i wanted to know if any one had names to these experts .but it seems not, so let this drop of the radar

The blog includes this sentence:


Six international ground penetrating radar experts all
stated that something lay buried beneath the Murat driveway – Four from
the USA, One from South Africa and One from the UK.


No idea who they are, but presumably you could find out if you could be bothered, or Chris Spivey could since he seems to be in touch with Stephen Birch.

I actually found the whole article very interesting and worth reading.
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Post by tigger 09.05.13 20:46

Extract:

'Twenty five days after Madeleine went missing, hair and body fluid removed off Madeleine’s corpse was planted in the Renault hired by the McCann’s. This was later confirmed by Brian Healey, Kate McCann’s father. The planting of this DNA by Portuguese Police is the single most important reason the case was closed 15 months after it was opened.' unquote spit coffee

Case solved , we can all go home now.

As for those six experts, I'd like to see their reports and their names and qualifications.
There is no proof whatsoever that the GPR output is from Murat's backyard. No need to leave SA in order to produce such a 'result'.

So getting this straight: the PJ found the corpse in Murat's garden, took the DNA off it, contaminated Kate's pants and cuddlecat, planted the hair and DNA in the car and 5a and then managed a month or so later to prevent the CSI dogs from alerting to a corpse when they searched the garden. Somehow Brian Healy found out and told - well certainly Stephen Birch. Some six years later.

Errm, case isn't closed, it's shelved - can be re-opened any time.
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Post by sharonl 09.05.13 21:29

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I imagine if the PJ went about actioning work on the basis of every crackpot claim they would be kept very busy and it would cost a fortune. .

Obviously this applied to many leads reported by Metodo 3, the leads that team McCann claim were never followed up.
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