Re: McCanns Hire Car Contract

by Liz Eagles 14.02.13 13:15

JD it can be done for 12 months.

Here's the link.

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by lufc50337 14.02.13 13:26

It can be done for 2 years I think, personally thought I can't see a control freak like GM leaving his card statements going to a previous address with out a reason that's for his benefit

To save me searching as I'm sure somebody will know straight away I am presuming zoopla was checked regarding sale date and the current occupant without putting their name on here has been looked into

I used to post a lot Sept 2007 to about July 2009 then due to working extremely long hours not really posted till recently although had a look most weeks for updates so I have missed a lot of info

by Guest 14.02.13 13:28

I did check myself - the sale date was January 2006.

by lufc50337 14.02.13 13:35

Jean wrote:I did check myself - the sale date was January 2006.

Thank you Jean

by jd 14.02.13 13:36

aquila wrote:JD it can be done for 12 months.

Here's the link.

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Yes it can be done but in real everyday life would you be having your financial statements on a redirect for 17 months? In reality this would be in place for any correspondence that does not form part of your everyday life that may be sent to you. All bank statements, credit cards etc would be changed to your new address asap

by jd 14.02.13 13:37

Jean wrote:I did check myself - the sale date was January 2006.

Didn't kate mccann say in her bewk they moved in the "spring" of 2006!!! winkwink

by Pershing36 14.02.13 13:56

Is there any evidence for sure that the credit cards were still in old address?

by Guest 14.02.13 14:30

jd wrote:
Jean wrote:I did check myself - the sale date was January 2006.

Didn't kate mccann say in her bewk they moved in the "spring" of 2006!!! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Correct. On page 39:

"The mews house in Q was a bit cramped for five of us, especially as we often had family or friends to stay, and in the spring of 2006 we moved to a larger home in a quiet cul-de-sac in Rothley, the village where Uncle Brian and Auntie Janet lived."

"Here we had a post office and general store, a cafe, several good pubs and interesting shops, which gave my afternoon walks with the children more of a sense of purpose."

Queniborough has its own post office. Are we to believe that the postmaster of this tiny hamlet delivered the parcel with the wallet addressed to MCCann at their former home address, to the subsequent owners of the house, knowing they were not the McCs? Odd.

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How many mothers would consider their walks with their babies less purposeful if unaccompanied by a visit to a cafe or 'good' pub?

by lufc50337 14.02.13 14:56

Portia wrote:
jd wrote:
Jean wrote:I did check myself - the sale date was January 2006.

Didn't kate mccann say in her bewk they moved in the "spring" of 2006!!! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Correct. On page 39:

"The mews house in Q was a bit cramped for five of us, especially as we often had family or friends to stay, and in the spring of 2006 we moved to a larger home in a quiet cul-de-sac in Rothley, the village where Uncle Brian and Auntie Janet lived."

"Here we had a post office and general store, a cafe, several good pubs and interesting shops, which gave my afternoon walks with the children more of a sense of purpose."

Queniborough has its own post office. Are we to believe that the postmaster of this tiny hamlet delivered the parcel with the wallet addressed to MCCann at their former home address, to the subsequent owners of the house, knowing they were not the McCs? Odd.

PS
How many mothers would consider their walks with their babies less purposeful if unaccompanied by a visit to a cafe or 'good' pub?

Well that's odd most people unless they've moved a lot of times remember if not the exact date definitely the month they moved, there's a lot of difference between January and spring

What was the purchase date of the Rothley house?

by Lostfridge 14.02.13 15:22

Indeed, Why does a walk with your children have to have a sense of purpose? Why not just a nice walk to the local Park with the kids just to spend time with them...

by lufc50337 14.02.13 15:27

Purchase date of Rothley house same day 20 Jan 2006 which is what you would expect, not sure why Kate says Spring 2006

by Guest 14.02.13 17:21

sally66 wrote:Purchase date of Rothley house same day 20 Jan 2006 which is what you would expect, not sure why Kate says Spring 2006

Is that really to be expected?

What are the odds on signing the sale of the one house at the moment of signing the purchase of the next one?

And both of these by proxy?

Who was the proxy?

by Guest 14.02.13 17:40

It has been confirmed that both properties (old and new) were sold in January 2006. Maybe it's spring all year round in what I call the Hello magazine world that Kate wants us to believe that she lived prior to May 2007.

The realities of moving house with three children under 3 years old would be a nightmare for lesser mortals like us!

by Pershing36 14.02.13 18:24

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Does this not say it all really?

Out of 9 people, 5 had no recorded bank accounts.

What does this mean to?

"Records of current bank accounts are not automatically held. They are recorded when and if required for credit checking purposes only."

Are credit checks not done for mortgages? Only reason I can think of was those very popular self certified mortgages which were usually used by those who couldn't really afford the houses they wanted to buy.

Or is it Police credit checks? If so 4 or the 9 had been checked before.

I don't understand.

by **tigger** 14.02.13 18:29

from letter to PJ 16/5/08 from LP

re background info on McCanns :

[...] There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individual maintains an account open with the same bank or credit card accounts for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this kind of search.
unquote

huh

by Spaniel 14.02.13 18:36

Lostfridge wrote:Indeed, Why does a walk with your children have to have a sense of purpose? Why not just a nice walk to the local Park with the kids just to spend time with them...

Because walking down a country lane with tall hedges on both sides holds no interest for a toddler. It does nothing for me either, and I live here. Here being here and not near them, thank God.
So much more interesting to look at someone's gardens in passing or to stop for a coffee. there is much to criticise and I cannot stand the e*** c** but where she walks the kids isn't one of them.

by jd 14.02.13 19:14

Jean wrote:It has been confirmed that both properties (old and new) were sold in January 2006. Maybe it's spring all year round in what I call the Hello magazine world that Kate wants us to believe that she lived prior to May 2007.

The realities of moving house with three children under 3 years old would be a nightmare for lesser mortals like us!

gerry mccann was in Miami so he couldn't help either!!!

by jd 14.02.13 19:15

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Does this not say it all really?

Out of 9 people, 5 had no recorded bank accounts.

Yes!!!!!!

by Dr What 14.02.13 19:56

It has been a long day and I am not thinking straight....so forgive me.

But this bunch of NHS workers must have bank accounts so that their salaries are paid into them.

They might not want anyone to look at their accounts, but they must exist and the PJ should have been able to view them, assuming the British authorities gave permission.

by Inspectorfrost 14.02.13 21:59

Dr What wrote:It has been a long day and I am not thinking straight....so forgive me.

But this bunch of NHS workers must have bank accounts so that their salaries are paid into them.

They might not want anyone to look at their accounts, but they must exist and the PJ should have been able to view them, assuming the British authorities gave permission.

Of course they have bank accounts. The problem here is not knowing exactly what kind of summary that was, whether from one or more sources, and from where the info for it was sourced and for what reason.It seems pretty pants. The British didn't seem to be very helpful or pro active here IMO.

by Pershing36 14.02.13 22:05

tigger wrote:from letter to PJ 16/5/08 from LP

re background info on McCanns :

[...] There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individual maintains an account open with the same bank or credit card accounts for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this kind of search.
unquote

Still doesn't make sense. Maybe for the 3 that who had lived in their houses years.

But they had taken out a Northern Wreck Mortgage. Surely this would have triggered a search, hence more than day to day normal transactions. They would have been transferring lots of money one way or another for a house.

by lufc50337 14.02.13 22:38

Jean wrote:It has been confirmed that both properties (old and new) were sold in January 2006. Maybe it's spring all year round in what I call the Hello magazine world that Kate wants us to believe that she lived prior to May 2007.

The realities of moving house with three children under 3 years old would be a nightmare for lesser mortals like us!

I thought that about it being a nightmare to move house with 3 kids under 3 - I'm really placid and I get a bit grumpy when moving (recently done it so fresh in my mind) and that's without 3 young kids to look after too

They could have had a lot of help with it or paid one of them companies who do it all for you

Is there a connection to who bought the house off them? Just wondering if they stayed put and got the new house all ready and sorted before moving in, it's a lot less stressful to do it that way and if they do know the new owner then GM could easily get his continuing mail

by jd 15.02.13 12:55

tigger wrote:from letter to PJ 16/5/08 from LP

re background info on McCanns :

[...] There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individual maintains an account open with the same bank or credit card accounts for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this kind of search.
unquote

Look at who made these searches and the date....Leicestershire police (need I say more) and in May 2008....This a month after the RI's in April 2008

The RI's were designed to counteract the flaws in the Tapas 9 original statements and stories (hence the Rothley meeting in November 2007 to get stories straight), the mccanns being under arguido status could ask the questions for the RI's

The part "these details do not appear in this kind of search." nullifies any suspicion, they know there is of their financial backgrounds, credit cards etc and is designed to work hand in hand with the RI's

by Lady-Heather 16.02.13 17:37

jd wrote:

For 17 months and with matters of personal finance?

Going back to the topic of addresses. Thanks to jd for finding the following:
Was doing a search on the Mccanns to see what I could discover about their change of address, when I came across the name 'Madeleine Mccann' (age guide 26-30) as listed as being on the electoral role in 2010 in Leicester. Weird enough, but look at the number of other occupants listed as living at the same address:

Abigail J Barrick
Abhijna Parigi
Adam Naismith
Adebowale Adegun
Abigail M Poole
Adam P Maycock
Abubakar Abdullahi
Abhar Ahmad
Aaron Daniels
Abigail Dede

Notice all the names beginning with aa.. ab.. and the Abigails!

but then, if you search the name 'Mccann' a bit further you'll notice a 'Giles Mccann', on the electorical role in 2009 in Leicester, with the following names also recorded as living at the same property:

Abigail Rutherford
Alex Thomas
Ajaya F Bhogal-Todd
Abigail K Byrne
Aaron Shapter
Alex J Mccawley
Aidan Wong
Abigail Ferrier
Alarick Stewart
Adam N Parker

another 3 Abigails, and the names all starting with 'a'.

Can anyone shed some light on what they think is going on here?

by **tigger** 16.02.13 17:45

Some kind of council tax scam? Or postal address for people living illegally in UK? So they can prove an address?

by Pershing36 16.02.13 17:55

Purely without any proof, just observation it looks like a lot of their financial records were withheld.

I remember something being said about the Tapas group and a failed NHS public private partnership bid. Could this be a reason for them not disclosing records as it could have put up a financial motive.

by Spaniel 16.02.13 18:35

Lady-Heather wrote:
jd wrote:

For 17 months and with matters of personal finance?

Going back to the topic of addresses. Thanks to jd for finding the following:
Was doing a search on the Mccanns to see what I could discover about their change of address, when I came across the name 'Madeleine Mccann' (age guide 26-30) as listed as being on the electoral role in 2010 in Leicester. Weird enough, but look at the number of other occupants listed as living at the same address:

Abigail J Barrick
Abhijna Parigi
Adam Naismith
Adebowale Adegun
Abigail M Poole
Adam P Maycock
Abubakar Abdullahi
Abhar Ahmad
Aaron Daniels
Abigail Dede

Notice all the names beginning with aa.. ab.. and the Abigails!

but then, if you search the name 'Mccann' a bit further you'll notice a 'Giles Mccann', on the electorical role in 2009 in Leicester, with the following names also recorded as living at the same property:

Abigail Rutherford
Alex Thomas
Ajaya F Bhogal-Todd
Abigail K Byrne
Aaron Shapter
Alex J Mccawley
Aidan Wong
Abigail Ferrier
Alarick Stewart
Adam N Parker

another 3 Abigails, and the names all starting with 'a'.

Can anyone shed some light on what they think is going on here?

Surely a malfunction. Was this 192?

A problem with 192 is they include all previous occupiers, but that is obviously a malfunction. Not that I know what you're looking for. Land registry holds all details as to ownership.

To the poster who queried how can a sale be at at the exact time as the new purchase? That's how it works. I believe the deadline for completion is 2pm. May be wrong on the time , but it's strict.
As for proxy, solicitor would sign if one was out of the Country.

by Dr What 16.02.13 18:37

As you say..weird.

I take it that they are not anything to do with the Queniborough address and that the two sets of lists relate to different addresses?

Are they real people?

by Guest 16.02.13 18:48

Dr What wrote:As you say..weird.

I take it that they are not anything to do with the Queniborough address and that the two sets of lists relate to different addresses?

Are they real people?

Someone mentioned the possibility of a witness protection programn a couple of days back.

by Guest 16.02.13 18:51

Lady-Heather wrote:
jd wrote:

For 17 months and with matters of personal finance?

Going back to the topic of addresses. Thanks to jd for finding the following:
Was doing a search on the Mccanns to see what I could discover about their change of address, when I came across the name 'Madeleine Mccann' (age guide 26-30) as listed as being on the electoral role in 2010 in Leicester. Weird enough, but look at the number of other occupants listed as living at the same address:

Abigail J Barrick
Abhijna Parigi
Adam Naismith
Adebowale Adegun
Abigail M Poole
Adam P Maycock
Abubakar Abdullahi
Abhar Ahmad
Aaron Daniels
Abigail Dede

Notice all the names beginning with aa.. ab.. and the Abigails!

but then, if you search the name 'Mccann' a bit further you'll notice a 'Giles Mccann', on the electorical role in 2009 in Leicester, with the following names also recorded as living at the same property:

Abigail Rutherford
Alex Thomas
Ajaya F Bhogal-Todd
Abigail K Byrne
Aaron Shapter
Alex J Mccawley
Aidan Wong
Abigail Ferrier
Alarick Stewart
Adam N Parker

another 3 Abigails, and the names all starting with 'a'.

Can anyone shed some light on what they think is going on here?

Hello Lady heather,

What does 192 stand for and which were the researched adresses?

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