A few oddities

candyfloss wrote:

lj wrote:I agree Stella, as a matter of fact last night I wrote a post along those line, candyfloss, and I can find it nowhere now?? Even if I look at all my post in my profile. Mysterious.
Anyway the line of thought in my post was this:
Kate does not need a reason to lie, she is a pathological liar, who will lie just for the heck of it. Often it is however to make her look better. Here she is attemting to show it was for the sake of the children they did not go to the millenium.
The workers though have no reason to lie, especially not 6 of them.

Hi lj,

Last night the forum went off line 3 times for a few mins - I had the same problem, I typed a post and sent it and it didn't appear, it must have been when the forum went off line. It was between 9 and 9.45 pm. Pages were loading slowly too before and after for a while. I immediately went to MM to see if they were still on, and they weren't, after a few mins a page came up saying forumtion doing routine maintenance, same as here. As I say it happened 3 times, for only a couple of mins at a time, so your post must have vanished then. I did ask Get 'em and she had noticed to.

Gillyspot wrote:It is a job to know what it says in Portuguese. Whoever wrote this should have been a doctor because it is hard to tell what letters they are writing.

Gillyspot wrote:Oh I see. Sorry!

"Perciana" does appear this means a venetian type blind as far as I am aware.

These are coverings for windows and can be fitted outside or inside the window. They consist of a number of horizontal slats whose angle may be altered to let in more or less light and some can be opened outright. There are usually opened using cords or a pole fitted to one side of the window.

Obviously the McCanns referred to "shutters" and as there were not actual shutters fitted to the window it is these blinds that they must have been referring to (possibly because they were fitted to the outside of the window and this is not normal in the UK).

I have attached a link showing an indoor one (venetian blind is bottom right of page).

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I hope this helps.

Marian wrote:Maybe it's too early in the day for me but surely it was the wooden external shutters that were repaired? They were the ones which were famously quoted as being "jemmied" open by the "abductor" before it was proved that they weren't. I've not heard any mention of the Venetian blind type until now.

LG78 wrote:

Marian wrote:Maybe it's too early in the day for me but surely it was the wooden external shutters that were repaired? They were the ones which were famously quoted as being "jemmied" open by the "abductor" before it was proved that they weren't. I've not heard any mention of the Venetian blind type until now.

It is to early for you lol :)
The venetian blind was just an example to me to explain the word Blinds :) The translate doesnt tell wich blinds where fixed, I just assumed the where the ones in the childrens bedroom..? Anyway, my question was, why did they fix them on the May 1th? And why did they have to instruct the mccanns on how to use washingmachine?

Molly wrote:

LG78 wrote:

Marian wrote:Maybe it's too early in the day for me but surely it was the wooden external shutters that were repaired? They were the ones which were famously quoted as being "jemmied" open by the "abductor" before it was proved that they weren't. I've not heard any mention of the Venetian blind type until now.

It is to early for you lol :)
The venetian blind was just an example to me to explain the word Blinds :) The translate doesnt tell wich blinds where fixed, I just assumed the where the ones in the childrens bedroom..? Anyway, my question was, why did they fix them on the May 1th? And why did they have to instruct the mccanns on how to use washingmachine?

It was the blinds in Gerry & Kate's bedroom that were fixed
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LG78 wrote:Anyone know why it was so important for them to have apartments as close as possible to the eachothers?
Out of all the friends they are the onlyone specifaying in their booking that they want aparments as cloce as possible to eachother...
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Stella wrote:According to Matt Oldfield, they were going to share child care at night. With someone missing every night, they probably did.

From Matt Oldfield's Rogatory interview:

And it was one of the things that made us think, maybe we shouldn't go, because when we were trying to book, it said it's a village, it's not enclosed, it's sort of apartments throughout the village and there isn't a baby listening service and we can't guarantee that you'll be together, because I think there were three centres, there's one up by the Millennium, there's one Ocean Club and then there was the one near the main entrance, and so we were concerned that if one member of the group, we were all going, oh perhaps we'll be the Billy no mates, the really unpopular ones will get stuck at the Millennium and we won't be able to, we won't be able to go out and visit our friends because we're not going to leave to go and see them and we won't be able to share child care and so it would be fairly difficult and it was a big issue because they couldn't guarantee, the couldn't allocate the rooms for us and they said it'll have to wait until you get in the resort but in the end it was sort of quite quiet and so they sort of could stick us really close together. I can't remember why I started talking about that?"

Stella wrote:Matt slips up again later on just after the alarm is raised, by saying that he had to go 'up' to check on his daughter. But Matt had an apartment on the ground floor. This to me suggests that ALL of the children were already upstairs and the only apartment upstairs was the Payne's one. Which would also explain why David, Fiona and Dianne did not rush off immediately to make sure all of their children were still there.

tigger wrote:

Daisy wrote:

Like Stella, I don't believe that the five staff are all liars/mistaken either. The girl on reception remembered them having breakfast there on at least 3 occasions; she describes the family, she remembered Madeleine being shy, cuddling her father, why on earth would she make this up?

Well, you see, that's where I have a problem. Maddie is described as anything but shy. 'giving her tuppence worth' and 'a screamer' and 'that girl could throw a tantrum', etc. mostly quotes from family.
So what I'm thinking is the same stand-in they used off and on all week. Perhaps Ella who can easily pass for Maddie, who was afraid of water one day, when Maddie loved water, according to Kate.
Or simply, that they did have breakfast at the flat. Breakfast doesn't exactly break the bank, bit of juice, coffee and cereal.
Otherwise, I see no problem either with the witnesses mistaking other clients for the McCanns. If only one of them thinks it's the McCanns, the others would naturally concur. I would, in that position, busy waitressing, noisy children.
Either way, I don't think if this is a lie, it is particularly important. Unless it is simply that Kate wants to draw our attention to her motherly person, looking after the children, etc. Or she want to re enforce her earlier statement that the Millenium was so much bother and so far away and the NO Buggies statement. I really don't think this bit is important.
Either they used a stand-in at the Millenium and this is just belts and braces, saying they weren't there. Just in case someone has a photograph or some other proof that the girl everyone thought was Maddie, turns out to be someone else's child.
I do think the silence about Chaplin's is important. It's right next to the church. The very church they had to ask the policeman to point out to them.

pennylane wrote:

Stella wrote:Matt slips up again later on just after the alarm is raised, by saying that he had to go 'up' to check on his daughter. But Matt had an apartment on the ground floor. This to me suggests that ALL of the children were already upstairs and the only apartment upstairs was the Payne's one. Which would also explain why David, Fiona and Dianne did not rush off immediately to make sure all of their children were still there.

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Could be a figure of speech because it was a slight uphill walk from the Tapas bar to the apartment? As in 'going down to the shops' or 'up to the pub.'

Stella wrote:

pennylane wrote:

Stella wrote:Matt slips up again later on just after the alarm is raised, by saying that he had to go 'up' to check on his daughter.But Matt had an apartment on the ground floor. This to me suggests that ALL of the children were already upstairs and the only apartment upstairs was the Payne's one. Which would also explain why David, Fiona and Dianne did not rush off immediately to make sure all of their children were still there.

Hi Stella, [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Could be a figure of speech because it was a slight uphill walk from the Tapas bar to the apartment? As in 'going down to the shops' or 'up to the pub.'

I had thought about that pennylane, but if you read the previous sentence to that comment, you will see that he was already outside apartment 5a with everyone else at the time, which means he had already reached the apartments. That can only mean one thing. When he thought of 'up', it can only have been an upper apartment. The only other reason to explain this, is that it is all made up and he cocked up.

According to Fiona, they all got a 2 bedroom apartment. Which means Matt was not in G5B anyway.

Daisy wrote:Another little oddity. No wonder they stopped Philemena giving interviews, she was always putting her foot in it.

"Kate and Gerry are loving parents; they tried so hard to have children. They had to undergo
IVF; Kate had difficult pregnancies."

Philomena McCann, BBC Radio interview with Nicky Campbell: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


“It was a really uncomplicated pregnancy. I had no sickness, nothing. It was
so easy. I swam every day until the day she was born, to keep us both
healthy..."

Kate McCann [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]