Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

sharonl wrote:If there was any evidence that Christian Brueckner was involved in this case, why would extra funds be required to investigate him?

They had to pay the Counter surveillance company to sweep the Athens Hotel for Bugs, then they apparently paid Helge B for a Statement, padded out with Blacked out text, the content of which even the Defence lawyer Herr Fulscher cannot find out. He is still being denied access to the Prosecutors Files on his Customers case.

Manfred S said that suddenly Helge B had loads of Money, and was ‘Hoppa - Hoppa’ drunk.

Who else is being paid to incriminate Christian B as much as possible?

I always thought you got the reward AFTER the Criminal was convicted on your information...?

Not before.

ShiningInLuz wrote:One again Verdi, thank you for your summary.  Most useful!

 
It is only a brief summary but it gives an idea of the documentary's stand point.

Slow, over dramatized and too much emphasis on unreliable witnesses and Sandra Felgueiras.

On the surface, without taking too much time checking the detail, the documentary appears to be based on the past months of tabloid press reports, the movements of Christian Brueckner across Europe and alleged crimes committed on route.

There is little or no evidence from any authoritative source to verify the claims, it's all very airy-fairy, a non-story I would suggest planted like so many in the past, to lead the focus away from the true suspects in the case.

I might take a few minutes to concentrate on the mother of the child in the 'flashing' playgound incident, through my eyes the woman is overplaying though admittedly the scene must have been filmed for the documentary, rather than taken from archives.

There always seems to be someone waiting in the wings to make a few quid - bearing false witness!

Villa owner of Madeleine McCann murder suspect urges police to search

June 7, 2020



The owner of a secluded villa where the murder suspect Madeleine McCann lived after she disappeared urged police to search her large lot [ ^^^ ].

Lia Silva said she would cooperate fully with British and Portuguese police if they suspected the toddler’s body could be buried somewhere on his property.

Christian Brueckner stayed in the house in 2007 when it was used as a refuge for troubled children and rented by a German woman called Nicole and her partner Roman.

The tall blue eyed German with piercing blue eyes was seen several times in the area and on the property in the weeks following the disappearance of the three-year-old.

Lia Silva, owner of an isolated villa where Madeleine McCann’s murder suspect Christian Brueckner urged the police to search his land.



Murder suspect often seen by local residents on property after Madeleine McCann’s death



The owner of the property said she would cooperate fully with the British and Portuguese police if they suspected that the toddler’s body could be buried somewhere on his property.

Its current owner has confirmed that he saw Brueckner at the villa on several occasions.

In an exclusive interview with MailOnline, Silva urged police to search her 5,000 m² property if they thought the missing child could be buried in the park.

She said, “I just want the parents to find a solution. If the police want to dig my land, they are welcome.

“I expect them to come here now that they know Brueckner was there. Personally, I don’t think she can be here.

“The ground is very hard and you would need a shovel or something. But if the police want it, they can. I will do everything I can to make me feel so sorry for them and they must be in hell without knowing it.

McCann’s suspect, Christian Brueckner, carried a handgun while living in the village of Foral, locals said.

They described the German as “intimidating” and led many residents to avoid dining in the only restaurant in the village where he often strutted.

The pedophile worked as a part-time waiter at the O Foral restaurant after having moved to the village and having lived in his motorhome.

Lia Silva said, “I was told that when he was here he had a pistol that he would always be in a holster around his waist.

Brueckner, 43, the new key suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCan, carried a handgun while living in the remote village, residents say.



In 2007, Brueckner stayed at home when it was used as a shelter for children in difficulty.



Silva asked police to search her 5,000 m² property if she thought the missing child could be buried in the park



The isolated property in Portugal has a dirt road leading to it and its garden is overgrown

“A lot of people were very put off by it and found it very intimidating,

“People were talking about it because it was unusual. In 2007, you did not need a license to carry a firearm.

Silva said she had never seen Brueckner with the gun and thinks it was to enhance his image.

“He likes to intimidate people from what I’ve been told. Everyone was talking about him with the gun because it was so unusual.

Silva, who is Portuguese but speaks strangely with an Australian accent, said that she had never met Brueckner when he stayed at her house.

She discovered that the German woman who rented the villa was good friends with Brueckner and stayed there often.

She said, “I didn’t know his name at the time, but he was a very good friend of Nicole. He was an ugly man who always wore a black leather jacket.

“He came here to help him. One of the girls who had been sent from Germany to stay with her fled to stay with Romanians a few kilometers away.



The owner of the secluded villa said that the soil around the property was very hard and would require a backhoe



The property is surrounded by fields and the nearest neighbor is more than 200 meters away



The current owner of the villa has confirmed that she will see the murder suspect at the residence several times



The secluded villa is surrounded by a fence that has three layers of barbed wire and an overgrown plantation

“He found her and brought her back, but she was pregnant. I know he often stayed at the villa because he was good friends with Nicole and her boyfriend Roman.

“I was in litigation with Nicole over the non-payment of rent, so I did not go to the property, but my friends told me that he was there.

“He drove a VW camper van. I was with my parents during the rental of the villa. Nicole left me thousands of dollars.

Silva now shares the property called Villa Bianca with eight rescue dogs that run and jump repeatedly at the wrought-iron gates when people pass.

At the nearby O Foral restaurant, staff said they did not see any police officers involved in the McCann investigation in the area.

The former owner of the restaurant spoke German and employed Brueckner part-time as a waiter.

He has since moved away from the area, but a neighbor said, “Those who spoke German would stay together.

Silva’s house is far from a dirt road and in a position as secluded as the houses Brueckner lived near the Ptaiz da Luz station.

The single storey property is in a secluded position with its entrance to a dirt road and a fence surmounted by three layers of barbed wire.

The garden is overrun by a car without front wheels and resting on bricks. It is surrounded by fields with the nearest neighbor more than 200 meters away.

Brueckner parked his VW in the parking lot of the O Foral restaurant where he worked part-time as a waiter.

The restaurant changed hands six years ago, with the current owners of husband and wife unaware of Brueckner’s existence.

The residents of Foral, about 40 miles from the resort of Praia da Luz where McCann disappeared, were shocked to find their small village linked to the pedophile.

One resident, who asked not to be named, said: “It is horrible to think that he lived here. All of this happened before I came here, but everyone who has lived in Portugal knows McCann’s story.

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

   

This has got nothing to do with Brueckner, at least not on the surface but I'm sticking it here for want of anywhere else more appropriate - like garbage!

It's the Australian 7NEWS documentary, first aired in 2017.

I wonder why they've decided to give it another airing at this point in time.  I know Sonia Poulton has connections with the journalist Mark Saunokonko from another Australian news network, maybe it's connected in some way with her latest video?

Or maybe it's just another lead up to an anniversary.



What happened to Madeleine McCann? Her parents speak and the bungled investigation | 7NEWS Spotlight

8 April 2021

38:23 minutes

Madeleine McCann was just three years old when she vanished from her bed while on holiday in Portugal. There have been multiple sightings and her parents accused of foul play, but there's still no definitive answer as to what happened. Rahni Sadler sits down with Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann, investigator Gonçalo Amaral, who was removed from the case, and other key players in the case. This story originally aired in 2017.



ETA: The most obvious thread is of course Video of the Day - why didn't I think of that? Still, it can stay put for the moment.

Investigators had previously left it open whether there will be charges against the murder suspect in 2021. Prosecutor Wolters said that at least individual investigations could possibly be completed this year. "I am unable to judge whether charges will be brought and then publicly heard," admitted Wolters.


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 Still staying put for the moment!

Shocking new evidence: Madeleine McCann's suspected killer revealed | 60 Minutes Australia

14 October 2020

42:52 minutes



The disappearance of three-year-old Madeleine McCann is a heart-breaking mystery. Ever since she went missing on a family holiday in Portugal in May 2007, her beautiful face has haunted the world. In that time her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann have never stopped searching for answers about what happened to their daughter. They’ve also never stopped hoping she might still be alive.

After 13 years of torment and frustration, there’s finally been a significant breakthrough in the case. It’s brought the best – and tragically, the worst – news for Maddie’s family. Three months ago, German prosecutors announced they had a prime suspect, 43-year-old convicted sex-offender Christian Brueckner. But authorities also confirmed the suspicion no one wanted to hear: Madeleine was most likely dead.

13 years after Madeleine McCann went missing, investigators believe they have a credible suspect

26 February 2021



Three-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from her bed on vacation in 2007. Now, investigators believe they have a credible suspect who may know what happened to McCann. Peter Van Sant joins "CBS This Morning" with the investigation into this suspect on this week's "48 Hours."

Madeleine McCann German probe "still at full speed" 10 months after paedo suspect named

EXCLUSIVE: The 14th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance is approaching but German investigators say they remain optimistic, nearly a year after Christian Brueckner was identified

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Madeleine McCann vanished 14 years ago from a holiday apartment in Portugal/

Prosecutors have insisted they “remain optimistic” they will crack the Madeleine McCann mystery – as the 14th anniversary of her disappearance approaches.

Hans Christian Wolters said a German investigation into suspect Christian Brueckner, 44, is running “at full speed”.

And he hoped a new TV documentary will help uncover more clues.

He told the Sunday Mirror: “Even if the public does not notice it much, our investigations in the Maddie case continue to run at full speed.

“We still assume the accused, Christian B, killed Madeleine. Even though the investigation of a case that will be 14 years old in a few days is very difficult after all this time, we remain optimistic and hopeful that we will be able to solve the crime.

“In doing so, we continue to work closely with the Metropolitan Police and the Portuguese law enforcement authorities, regardless of Brexit.”

Christian Brueckner was named as a suspect in the McCann case last year.

Mr Wolters said in June last year that he believed Madeleine is dead and identified convicted paedophile Brueckner as a suspect.

Brueckner is serving seven years for the rape of a 72-year-old woman in Praia da Luz, where Madeleine vanished from an apartment on May 3, 2007 – days before her fourth birthday.
She was in Portugal with her parents Gerry and Kate and her twin siblings, then aged two.

A Danish-made documentary on Brueckner will screen in the suspect’s native Germany on April 28.

Mr Wolters added: “I did a long interview. Of course, we always hope for new leads. In this respect, the programme may well help to clear up the case.”

Hans Christian Wolters says the investigation is ongoing even if the public don't see it.
A lawyer for Brueckner has repeatedly called for police to show their evidence – and vowed his client will never face trial over Madeleine.

Parents Kate and Gerry, of Rothley, Leics, have said: “We will never give up hope of finding Madeleine alive.”

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So Wolters has gone from having 'concrete proof' just a few months ago to now just 'assuming', 'remaining optimistic' and 'hoping'.
Just aswell their investigation is still running at full speed. I'd hate to see them dragging their heels.

Yes of course .... to be sure to be sure to be sure.

Nothing like a good plug for the pending 14th anniversary.

Wolters is 1,000 volt pretense.  Who pays the ferryman?  Ooooh look another suspect - Mr Ferryman!

The intelligent tabloid #makesyerthonkdunnit

The next few weeks will be dynamite - what say you Mr Damp Squib    ?

I wonder what word he used which has translated as "Assumed"

There are many which might fit the bill
annehmen, übernehmen, voraussetzen, vermuten, vorgeben, unterstellen, each of which has a different emphasis and force.
even Google translate gives  "accept, assume, presuppose, presume, pretend, assume," and a native or highly fluent German speaker would be able to elaborate.
Vermuten, for example can carry the meaning of "to suspect, to conjecture"  [cf. English 'moot']

We use assume in a hypothetical way, as in 
"Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that Madeleine was abducted.  What then might we expect to find at the scene?

I assumed the Penny has dropped by Herr Wolters a long time ago...

I think he caught the wrong Ferry, and he is heading for the rocks.

Time will tell...

Has Herr Wolters managed to work out the location of the phone masts in Praia du Luz yet , he was certainly struggling when interviewed by Mark Saunokonoko ? Or is that something else he's just " assuming " ? 

Has he spoken to the witnesses who allegedly saw a man carrying a child on the night of the " abduction " ? Jane Tanner whose description has changed so many times I'm sure would oblige in identifying C.B as the man she saw that night , after all she's done it before ! 

What about Martin Smith ? Does he think C.B looks like the man they saw , who they wouldn't recognise again but wasn't Murat , but might be Gerry McCann ? 

Has Wolters spoken with Martin Grime about the alerts given by Eddie and Keela , or did he go to the same school as Professor McCann and decided they're " incredible unreliable " ? 

Three weeks to go to the next anniversary ! Prepare for a McCann news takeover , the circus continues !

sandancer wrote:Jane Tanner whose description has changed so many times I'm sure would oblige in identifying C.B as the man she saw that night , after all she's done it before !

Man of many faces and every one the same!

sandancer wrote:Three weeks to go to the next anniversary ! Prepare for a McCann news takeover , the circus continues !

Of course there is always room in mainstream media to push 'the virus' aside and make way for more pressing issues - like the sad death of HRH The Duke of Edinburgh.

The heat on that front will fade over the next few weeks I feel, 'the virus' is now under control so can be put on the back burner until the next inevitable pre-planned surge - just in time for Mayday!

Blank tabloid papers waiting for the next big storyline.

Madeleine McCann prosecutors ‘optimistic’ of cracking case as 14th anniversary looms

Hans Christian Wolters says a probe into Christian ­Brueckner, 44, is running “at full speed”.
ByPatrick Hill

04:30, 11 APR 2021

Prosecutors say they’re “optimistic” they will crack the Madeleine McCann mystery – as the 14th anniversary of her ­disappearance approaches.

Hans Christian Wolters says a probe into Christian ­Brueckner, 44, is running “at full speed”.

And he hopes a new TV documentary, to be screened in the suspect’s native Germany on April 28, will uncover more clues.

Wolters said: “Even if the ­public does not notice it much, our investigations in the Maddie case continue to run at full speed.

“We still assume the accused, Christian B, killed Madeleine.

“Even though the ­investigation of a case that will be 14 years old in a few days is very difficult, we remain ­optimistic and hopeful that we’ll be able to solve the crime.”

Wolters said last June that he believed Madeleine is dead and identified ­convicted paedophile Brueckner as a suspect.

Brueckner is in jail for the rape of a woman in Praia da Luz, Portugal, the town where Madeleine vanished from an apartment on May 3, 2007 – days before her fourth birthday.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/prosecutors-optimistic-theyll-solve-madeleine-23891121

Change the record Mr Daily!

At the end of 2020 and beginning of 2021 and most probably before and after, Herr Wolter was reported to have said the German investigation could not proceed until the spring of 2021 your guess is as good as mine!

Whatever, it fits in nicely with the forthcoming 14th anniversary celebrations - just enough to keep the case open (?) for the ensuing decade.

Madeleine McCann prosecutors ‘optimistic’ of cracking case as 14th anniversary looms

More chance of cracking a walnut.

Unless and until Brueckner can be proven to have helped the McCann's dispose of Madeleine, he's a patsy.

How Wolters seriously thinks he and the BKA have even a chance of getting through the preliminary hearing before a main court case I have no idea!

I wonder how many Sun readers will be witnesses in the case?

But IF they are really set on trying Brückner in a real court, or even a ‘Kangaroo court’ for that matter, they will either have to ‘set him up’ so well that no-one can appeal it.

Or make him ‘the most perfect suspect’ beforehand.

Silentscope wrote:

The main suspect of Madeleine McCann “WILL BE indicted”: German prosecutors are “convinced” to have “concrete evidence” against the pedophile Christian Brueckner

• Christian Brueckner, 43, is the main suspect in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance
  
  
• German prosecutors are now “convinced” that they can indict him in the 2007 case
  
  
• Brueckner Serves 21 Months on Unrelated Drug Case
  
  
• He will also begin a seven-year sentence for violating a OAP in Portugal in 2005 
  
  

By Jack Wright For Mailonline 
Posted: 01:13 GMT, December 3, 2020 | Update: 01:15 GMT, December 3, 2020 

German prosecutors are confident they can indict Madeleine McCann’s main suspect, Christian Brueckner, for her disappearance. 
The convicted pedophile, 43, is serving a 21-month sentence for an unrelated drug case in a Kiel prison and will be transferred to Wolfenbuttel in January to begin a seven-year sentence for the rape of an OAP woman in Praia da Luz in 2005.
He was identified as the new prime suspect in June after German police released a host of new evidence, including details of his cars and phone numbers, urging people to provide new information. 
German prosecutors now say they believe they have “hard evidence” that Madeleine is dead and should indict Brueckner with three more sex crimes in Praia da Luz in Portugal, where the three-year-old girl went missing in 2007. 
Hans Christian Wolters, who heads the German investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, said he was “confident” in the investigation.
A source close to the investigation told The Sun: ‘Things are progressing in the case and there have been several promising leads and tips, in particular from UK holidaymakers who were in Praia da Luz at the time of the disappearance of Madeleine.’

Please can you confirm if there is any equivalent media stories in the German press, as per the above and as stated by HC Wolters, or if this purely PR spin messaging for the gullible British people, to simply perpetuate the myths of 'another suspect' and demonstrate the need for funding for Operation Grange.
In fact, when queried did Wolters merely state he was 'confident' in his investigation (whatever that means) als Deutsch.

Ps Any fule kno that; ... ist eine ladung Sheisse !sic Adrian Molesworth, from St. Custards skool German lesson

The Daily Mail, and the Sun seem to be always the British press leaders on the subject, always quoting ‘a source close to the investigation’ as the reason how they know so much.

Post #630 includes a link to the Bild, the equivalent of the U.K. Sun.
The German press has not printed much on this story since Brückner was moved to another Prison in December last year.

Herr Wolters I suspect, still feels confident because he has failed to inform himself on the previous history of the case. 
Or is he being supported by his ‘Ferryman’?

I wish I knew.

‘Who is the bigger fool? The fool himself, or the fool that follows him?
Obi Wan Kenobi

cammerigal wrote:Please can you confirm if there is any equivalent media stories in the German press, as per the above and as stated by HC Wolters, or if this purely PR spin messaging for the gullible British people, to simply perpetuate the myths of 'another suspect' and demonstrate the need for funding for Operation Grange.

If you look back over this thread, you will see the German press (tabloid equivalents) have been running parallel stories since this particular saga began, back in June 2020.  

When translating from one language to another, it's impossible to form a duplicate report without inaccuracies - lost in translation as they say. Worse still when using straight forward google translate - by that I mean word for word translation without due consideration for grammatical differences.

Suffice to say, the German media have been reporting similar stories over the months, give or take a bit of word juggling to suit press sensationalism.

Frankly it's beyond boring. which is probably the reason you might have missed something.  The above Mail report is from December 2020, four months ago.  There have been a number of reports since that time, all basically repetition - hence I say it's boring.

More recent documentaries, such as the Discovery+ channel (covered on this thread), are perhaps a better indication of what's been pouring forth from the mouth of the German prosecutor and Brueckner's current lawyer.  Even that's sub-titled and heavily edited so can't be an accurate account of exactly what has been said.

It's my belief that the media reports regurgitated again and again over the past ten months, emanate from German source - be that a German person or English person is a matter of conjecture.  

The Sun tabloid is repeatedly named by other press outlets as the source of information - the Sun, in my view, has an informer.  The most interesting factor being the focus on Germany since this whole sorry saga began back in the summer of 2007.  The McCanns European/North African lightening tour, highlighted the abduction by paedophile scenario - the first port of call being Berlin!

This is more than coincidence.  The German focus and it's named suspects with German connections, share so many similarities and have been craftily used as a basis for fringe documentaries covering the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann.

I'll wager the McCanns wealthy benefactor, Brian Kennedy and Clarence Mitchell and possibly Julian Peribañez, who once worked for the infamous Spanish detective agency, Metodo3, along with their contacts in the media world, are behind all this nonsense.

Just in time for the run-up to the Anniversary, the Discovery plus Danish production is soon to be available in Germany.

Monday, April 26th, 2021, 7:46 am
What is going on in the case of Maddie McCann and the main German suspect Christian B.? A new true crime documentary traces the life of Christian B - and presents numerous witnesses, companions, investigators and an ex-girlfriend in an interview.
After the spectacular revelations in the Madeleine McCann case in June 2020, it has become a little quiet. At that time, the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig announced that it was investigating a 43-year-old German who was already in custody for other offenses on suspicion of murder - it was reported in "Aktenzeichen XY ... unsolved" (ZDF): the Christian case B.
No charges have been brought since then. Apparently the public prosecutor's office is still looking for evidence - and probably also for a dead body, despite many indications that point to B. as the perpetrator. But who is that Christian B., with whom the German prosecutors are apparently sure that he is the perpetrator?


Journalist Jesper Grand and the Danish production company Heartland TV produced a three-part true crime documentary for the Discovery + channel, which was shown for the first time in the original English languageon February 15, 2021.


Now, on Wednesday, April 28th, 8:15 p.m., TLC will show the German version in one go. What can you find out about Christian B. and the status of the investigation?

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Not another coincidence.

No, not a coincidence.

It was part of the original release plan..

Produced by Danish Heartland TV and directed by Jesper H. Grand, the series features the participation of friends of the suspect, an ex-girlfriend and other key persons in the case, including the suspect’s defense counsel, the German prosecutor and the former Portuguese investigator.

The first episode will be available on Discovery Plus on Feb. 15 in the U.K., Italy, Spain, Poland, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland.

It will also premiere in India, the U.S., Germany, Portugal and South America later in 2021.

February 2021

No great amount of comments on the German press about last night’s screening on the TLC Channel. No new tips or leads reported so far.

One member on Gutefrage.net is asking where she can buy ‘The truth of the Lie’.

Otherwise nothing.



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