NEWSFLASH - The late Sir Clement Freud, resident of Praia da Luz and friend of the McCanns, exposed as a serial paedophile, Lady Freud apologises, Operation Grange to investigate McCann-Freud links (Daily Telegraph 14 Jun 2016)

Inquiry to be held by Dame Lowell Goddard

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The McCanns will be re-evaluating their contact with him. I think they must mean past contact? 
Requests for emails/correspondence from them and possibly the Freud family to be submitted. 

Gosh that was quick, I only asked for proof of the letter/ emails a few hours ago? 
Someone's on the ball 

No grass growing on this one it seems? 
Although accusations of possible links to MBM disappearance seem rather presumptuous at this early stage. Remember no matter what his "dalliances" were, he has a family who loved him and would be extremely hurt and shocked. 
IMO

Verdi wrote:

whodunit wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Verdi wrote:From what's been uncovered so far, it would appear Clement Freud had a penchant for teenage girls - not three year old children.

Yep.

Hence my question the other day.

This is more paedo-ring fuel thrown on the the fire. 

But there's those pesky dogs.

1. Nobody that I know of is suggesting that Freud is guilty of personally attacking MBM.
2. Yes, more pedo-ring fuel on the fire. Grooming children as young as ten but waiting to until they're teens to have intercourse with them does not rule out this person having a circle of friends who have 'different' preferences.
3. Pedo-ring fuel and death evidence are not mutually exclusive.

Again, I urge EVERYONE to read the testimony of Nancy Krebs, CSA victim and witness in the Ramsey case. Her statements reveal the inner workings of these groups, how they operate, WHY they operate...It is very instructive. Just FYI not all child sex traffickers and makers and purveyors of child porn are pedophiles, or rather it is a not a prerequisite. All that is needed is an evil desire for obscene profits and no scruples whatsoever.

Aside from minute detail about the JonBenet Ramsey case, I've no doubt the majority of readers are fully aware of the points you make.  I do however feel you are running away with yourself.

The news about Clement Freud is but a few days old and already you've built him into a massive conspiracy theory based only on UK media reports.  Speaking personally, I prefer to wait for the dust to settle before forming an opinion on a press report - more so a tabloid press report.  From prior knowledge, the McCanns and their PR machine are usually behind UK media hype.

No, I have not run away with myself. Unfortunately I have been studying this precise issue for close to 30 years so I feel obligated to try and educate others who have, quite understandably, no idea how or why these groups operate. I've simply tried to correct what I believe are false impressions.

Perhaps a few points from Ms. Krebs testimony might be helpful.

1. The groups are usually headed by a single dominant male. Usually wealthy with many celebrity and political contacts. He is the worst offender. Everybody in the group protects him above all else. They will lie for him and threaten the victims with the deaths of pets or anything else they care about to keep them quiet.

2. The group doesn't usually go out smashing shutters and abducting children. The dominant male relies upon his 'circle of friends and family' to supply him with victims. He does not go out searching for them. He sits tight like a Sultan and the child victims are brought to him. The dominant male gets 'first crack'. Nancy was first assaulted at age 3 by this person in her group.

3. There is a hierarchy with men holding certain 'support' positions in the group. One might be tasked with filming the assaults, another is tasked with distributing the materials, and yet another is responsible for laundering the money. If there are few men in the group some might be forced to 'multi-task'.  There is even a male who is given the job of 'facilitating the action'. I won't be more graphic than that, but it is Ms. Krebs' belief that this 'facilitator' [not her words, but my characterization of her description of this person] of her group was actually responsible for the accidental death of JonBenet.

4. From what I can gather boys born within the group are taught to 'offend'. They are encouraged to be abusive and domineering towards the girls, while the girls are groomed to 'enjoy' the attention.

5. The 'parties' during which this nefarious activity takes place are usually held during holidays so that the many cars present at the chosen residence does not arouse the suspicion of neighbors.

The purpose of these groups is not just to indulge in perversion, their main motive is profit. Once you move up the political and social food chain, you can add political blackmail to the mix.



Scroll down to the N's. Be aware that her testimony is graphic and disturbing. Also be aware that because of a teacher at her school a 'family friend' was convicted of molesting Nancy when she was 11 years old.

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Also be aware that 'ritual abuse' is a loose term in reference to these groups. Yes, some are Satanist/pagans, but some merely use the trappings of ritual to frighten and discredit the victims should they ever decide to come forward.




Lastly, [again, warning: graphic and disturbing]


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mods, I apologize for going off on a tangent. Please move if inappropriate.

MayMuse wrote:Inquiry to be held by Dame Lowell Goddard

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The McCanns will be re-evaluating their contact with him. I think they must mean past contact? 
Requests for emails/correspondence from them and possibly the Freud family to be submitted. 

Gosh that was quick, I only asked for proof of the letter/ emails a few hours ago? 
Someone's on the ball 

No grass growing on this one it seems? 
Although accusations of possible links to MBM disappearance seem rather presumptuous at this early stage. Remember no matter what his "dalliances" were, he has a family who loved him and would be extremely hurt and shocked. 
IMO

All I can say is WOW. Is this the first time the McCs have been forced to hand over potentially incriminating material? I mean they got away without having to disclose financial, medical, or phone records. Suddenly their nasty little box of secrets might actually see the light.

whodunit wrote:

Verdi wrote:

whodunit wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Verdi wrote:From what's been uncovered so far, it would appear Clement Freud had a penchant for teenage girls - not three year old children.

Yep.

Hence my question the other day.

This is more paedo-ring fuel thrown on the the fire. 

But there's those pesky dogs.

1. Nobody that I know of is suggesting that Freud is guilty of personally attacking MBM.
2. Yes, more pedo-ring fuel on the fire. Grooming children as young as ten but waiting to until they're teens to have intercourse with them does not rule out this person having a circle of friends who have 'different' preferences.
3. Pedo-ring fuel and death evidence are not mutually exclusive.

Again, I urge EVERYONE to read the testimony of Nancy Krebs, CSA victim and witness in the Ramsey case. Her statements reveal the inner workings of these groups, how they operate, WHY they operate...It is very instructive. Just FYI not all child sex traffickers and makers and purveyors of child porn are pedophiles, or rather it is a not a prerequisite. All that is needed is an evil desire for obscene profits and no scruples whatsoever.

Aside from minute detail about the JonBenet Ramsey case, I've no doubt the majority of readers are fully aware of the points you make.  I do however feel you are running away with yourself.

The news about Clement Freud is but a few days old and already you've built him into a massive conspiracy theory based only on UK media reports.  Speaking personally, I prefer to wait for the dust to settle before forming an opinion on a press report - more so a tabloid press report.  From prior knowledge, the McCanns and their PR machine are usually behind UK media hype.

No, I have not run away with myself. Unfortunately I have been studying this precise issue for close to 30 years so I feel obligated to try and educate others who have, quite understandably, no idea how or why these groups operate. I've simply tried to correct what I believe are false impressions.

Perhaps a few points from Ms. Krebs testimony might be helpful.

1. The groups are usually headed by a single dominant male. Usually wealthy with many celebrity and political contacts. He is the worst offender. Everybody in the group protects him above all else. They will lie for him and threaten the victims with the deaths of pets or anything else they care about to keep them quiet.

2. The group doesn't usually go out smashing shutters and abducting children. The dominant male relies upon his 'circle of friends and family' to supply him with victims. He does not go out searching for them. He sits tight like a Sultan and the child victims are brought to him. The dominant male gets 'first crack'. Nancy was first assaulted at age 3 by this person in her group.

3. There is a hierarchy with men holding certain 'support' positions in the group. One might be tasked with filming the assaults, another is tasked with distributing the materials, and yet another is responsible for laundering the money. If there are few men in the group some might be forced to 'multi-task'.  There is even a male who is given the job of 'facilitating the action'. I won't be more graphic than that, but it is Ms. Krebs' belief that this 'facilitator' [not her words, but my characterization of her description of this person] of her group was actually responsible for the accidental death of JonBenet.

4. From what I can gather boys born within the group are taught to 'offend'. They are encouraged to be abusive and domineering towards the girls, while the girls are groomed to 'enjoy' the attention.

5. The 'parties' during which this nefarious activity takes place are usually held during holidays so that the many cars present at the chosen residence does not arouse the suspicion of neighbors.

The purpose of these groups is not just to indulge in perversion, their main motive is profit. Once you move up the political and social food chain, you can add political blackmail to the mix.



Scroll down to the N's. Be aware that her testimony is graphic and disturbing. Also be aware that because of a teacher at her school a 'family friend' was convicted of molesting Nancy when she was 11 years old.

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SAN DIEGO GRAND JURY REPORT ON CHILDHOOD RITUAL ABUSE

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Also be aware that 'ritual abuse' is a loose term in reference to these groups. Yes, some are Satanist/pagans, but some merely use the trappings of ritual to frighten and discredit the victims should they ever decide to come forward.




Lastly, [again, warning: graphic and disturbing]


[size=30]Joan Baez---Play Me Backwards Lyrics [/size]

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mods, I apologize for going off on a tangent. Please move if inappropriate.

Just wanted to acknowledge this information. Although sickening I do believe that if people are educated in what is really happening in the world regarding these 'groups', the more exposure can bring conclusion to end and convict; thus protecting future harm to our children. Do you have any statistics which show targeted areas and quota?i.ehow many is believed to be prolific? Have any "heads" been caught? 
Is this more so in America than the UK or other countries? 
It all makes sense regarding the blackmail,and money laundering, this I believe is happening in the Madeleine McCann case. I also believe that some are "trapped" and want to get out of the 'circle' whether they are participants or just have immediate and damning knowledge. I will read the links provided. I now understand why you are thinking the way you are about CF, I still stand by my original thought process at this time. Thank you for the enlightening post. I think I need a lie down now 

Maria wrote:I found this old article link on another blog.


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"Suspicions were raised because of the behaviour of the people who rented the £1million villa and because video cameras were reportedly seen there along with pictures of children on a wall, the Sunday Express has learned."


Note this was published one month after CFs death.



Kates starts her book after this, but how long after?  then it's published in 2011?


Operation Grange starts in May 2011?


Could it be CFs Villa?
I dont recall reading anything more about it since it was published. 


Could this be a plan in action since his death in 2009 if it actually was Freuds villa.


My brain might well be running away with me. 

No, it is not the same villa.  Casa da Colina = house on the hill.  It's not near the sea-front.

Portia wrote:And: how did CF come by KHs private phone number?

Did he ask? 

Have his phone records from before and after the disappearance been checked?

Have the CCTV records about what went on in the rented villa been secured and looked at?

If MI5 were onto him: they must have been.

By the PJ? 

Interesting times ahead, when the files on CF crack open. 
Although this will all of course now be snowed under by the murder of your poor MP

He wrote them a letter, not phoned them.

Now speculate about how he got a letter to them.

whodunit wrote:

MayMuse wrote:Inquiry to be held by Dame Lowell Goddard

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The McCanns will be re-evaluating their contact with him. I think they must mean past contact? 
Requests for emails/correspondence from them and possibly the Freud family to be submitted. 

Gosh that was quick, I only asked for proof of the letter/ emails a few hours ago? 
Someone's on the ball 

No grass growing on this one it seems? 
Although accusations of possible links to MBM disappearance seem rather presumptuous at this early stage. Remember no matter what his "dalliances" were, he has a family who loved him and would be extremely hurt and shocked. 
IMO

All I can say is WOW. Is this the first time the McCs have been forced to hand over potentially incriminating material? I mean they got away without having to disclose financial, medical, or phone records. Suddenly their nasty little box of secrets might actually see the light.

I did read that any emails/correspondence would be requested from Freud's family and not Mr. & Mrs. but that was in a press report so who knows.

If any emails contain incriminating material it is possible that they would be deleted imo.

Unfortunately I think that if there had been anything at all remotely incriminating it would have been long ago sanitized quite thoroughly but you never know... if the police have acted quickly and are leagues (ie years) ahead of the newspaper reports, they may have been able to retrieve computers and hard drives and used forensic techniques to recover anything that may have been incompletely deleted.

I suspect it's likely however that someone of CF's stature would have had expert advice concerning disposal of hard drives, and even after he dropped dead of a sudden heart attack, I'm pretty positive his family and/or advisors would have taken care of anything like that, especially if they were quite aware of his extracurricular activities.

Unfortunately.

Verdi wrote:

whodunit wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Verdi wrote:From what's been uncovered so far, it would appear Clement Freud had a penchant for teenage girls - not three year old children.

Yep.

Hence my question the other day.

This is more paedo-ring fuel thrown on the the fire. 

But there's those pesky dogs.

1. Nobody that I know of is suggesting that Freud is guilty of personally attacking MBM.
2. Yes, more pedo-ring fuel on the fire. Grooming children as young as ten but waiting to until they're teens to have intercourse with them does not rule out this person having a circle of friends who have 'different' preferences.
3. Pedo-ring fuel and death evidence are not mutually exclusive.

Again, I urge EVERYONE to read the testimony of Nancy Krebs, CSA victim and witness in the Ramsey case. Her statements reveal the inner workings of these groups, how they operate, WHY they operate...It is very instructive. Just FYI not all child sex traffickers and makers and purveyors of child porn are pedophiles, or rather it is a not a prerequisite. All that is needed is an evil desire for obscene profits and no scruples whatsoever.

Aside from minute detail about the JonBenet Ramsey case, I've no doubt the majority of readers are fully aware of the points you make.  I do however feel you are running away with yourself.

The news about Clement Freud is but a few days old and already you've built him into a massive conspiracy theory based only on UK media reports.  Speaking personally, I prefer to wait for the dust to settle before forming an opinion on a press report - more so a tabloid press report.  From prior knowledge, the McCanns and their PR machine are usually behind UK media hype.

I agree Verdi, this UK media hype should have pink neon signs flashing above it!

The ‘facts’ according to Antonella Lazzeri:
 
He (CF) and Robert Murat were on “nodding terms”
 
Paedo Freud…drank with former prime suspect in McCanns case
 
So ‘nodding terms’ or drinking buddies? Considerably different, as stated up thread.
 
was also a regular at a pub in Praia da Luz dubbed The Plough and Paedophile.
 
Or
 
‘also visited’?
 
Clement Freud drank with Madeleine McCann suspect. . . and at perv pub with child sex beast ‘DJ Shifty’
 
Old story, created by ‘Metodo 3’ from 2007 about ‘DJ Shifty’ aka Christian Ridout, who apparently ran off to Spain and disappeared well before (probably around December 2005) the Mc’s holiday after allegations of grooming and texting a 12 year old.
I don’t think there was any mention of ‘child sex abuse images’ before, so where has that come from?
We know how reliable Metodo 3 were.
 
Lazzeri suddenly finds that CF ‘was a regular there and ‘drank with’ DJ Shifty. Says who? A least she quotes a source from The Pigs Head. We don’t even get ‘an old friend of’ or any such bullshit.
 
A Brit said that he saw a man carrying a little girl in the early hours of May 4, 2007.
 
Good old Lazzeri. Anything for a bit of copy space. Who needs facts and accuracy?
 
   
And by the way who is this ‘after midnight-man’?

Can anyone find a link to the Deborah Orr article about the case from a couple of months back. Would like to read again now we have a link.

Verdi wrote:Far too many pointers to ignore the child abuse connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.  I can't however believe that her actual fate was in anyway connected to a high profile paedophile syndicate operating in Portugal.

According to all the available evidence, the  McCanns and their mates were staying for only a few days on a low budget holiday package deal at the Ocean Club PdL.  If a powerful wealthy organized group was involved I would expect them to have been staying in a villa as guests of some influential personality or accommodated in a 5* hotel, not a small shabby Warners holiday apartment.  We wouldn't be here today discussing the case of Madeleine McCann - we wouldn't even know of her existence, the whole operation would have been handled with descretion.

The aftermath however is another matter altogether.  The issue of child sex abuse is a national/international problem of mammoth proportions - the need to protect those involved directly or on the periphery is paramount.  This I believe is where the truth lies.

So why such a huge effort to exonerate the McCann's of any wrongdoing in the disappearance of their child by the PTB etc. in the U.K.? Why didn't they let the Portugese authorities handle the crime that happened in their country, and of which they have jurisdiction in the case, because the crime did in fact happen in Portugal? Why such a lot of hoopla about it from the U.K. authorities as if Maddie's disappearance happened in the U.K.? IMO there is more to this case than a couple of doctors & their tapas mates staying in low level accomodation in PDL. So many questions.

Elça Craig wrote:

Portia wrote:And: how did CF come by KHs private phone number?

Did he ask? 

Have his phone records from before and after the disappearance been checked?

Have the CCTV records about what went on in the rented villa been secured and looked at?

If MI5 were onto him: they must have been.

By the PJ? 

Interesting times ahead, when the files on CF crack open. 
Although this will all of course now be snowed under by the murder of your poor MP

He wrote them a letter, not phoned them.

Now speculate about how he got a letter to them.

Posted it at the post office? But why would he need to do that if he lived in close proximity, and PDL is not a big place i don't think. And yes, why not a phone call if he had their contact number? Doesn't make sense.

And why were MI5 involved?

Joss wrote:

Elça Craig wrote:

Portia wrote:And: how did CF come by KHs private phone number?

Did he ask? 

Have his phone records from before and after the disappearance been checked?

Have the CCTV records about what went on in the rented villa been secured and looked at?

If MI5 were onto him: they must have been.

By the PJ? 

Interesting times ahead, when the files on CF crack open. 
Although this will all of course now be snowed under by the murder of your poor MP

He wrote them a letter, not phoned them.

Now speculate about how he got a letter to them.

Posted it at the post office? But why would he need to do that if he lived in close proximity, and PDL is not a big place i don't think. And yes, why not a phone call if he had their contact number? Doesn't make sense.

I was going to say, because phonecalls can be traced. But then why would he invite the McCanns to call HIM? That also doesn't make sense.

What would make sense is a personal visit from a mutual friend delivering a verbal message, and a verbal message being returned by the mutual friend. Nothing traceable that way, except the involvement of the mutual friend.

Edited to add: If the McCanns rang CF back to accept his invitation, then there would be a record of it, would there not?

Yes we can see that Gerry called Philip Wright twice in July. What I'm asking is - are either or both of those phonecalls to Casa Colina in response to CF inviting them over for dinner?

Elça Craig wrote:

Maria wrote:I found this old article link on another blog.


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"Suspicions were raised because of the behaviour of the people who rented the £1million villa and because video cameras were reportedly seen there along with pictures of children on a wall, the Sunday Express has learned."


Note this was published one month after CFs death.



Kates starts her book after this, but how long after?  then it's published in 2011?


Operation Grange starts in May 2011?


Could it be CFs Villa?
I dont recall reading anything more about it since it was published. 


Could this be a plan in action since his death in 2009 if it actually was Freuds villa.


My brain might well be running away with me. 

No, it is not the same villa.  Casa da Colina = house on the hill.  It's not near the sea-front.

According the Mail CFs  five bedroom villa is a third of a mile from the Mark Warner Ocean Club complex where Madeleine vanished.


Three metres from the beach, it is now rented as a £2,470-a-week holiday let.


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I read, earlier, someone's post where they said that Clement Freud's Villa, and Casa da Colina - Praia da Luz - Algarve, were not the same villas. Well, to remove all doubt, here is the latest description of Casa da Colina, with photographs. Take particular notice of the games room, when comparing this villa:

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canada12 wrote:

Joss wrote:

Elça Craig wrote:

Portia wrote:And: how did CF come by KHs private phone number?

Did he ask? 

Have his phone records from before and after the disappearance been checked?

Have the CCTV records about what went on in the rented villa been secured and looked at?

If MI5 were onto him: they must have been.

By the PJ? 

Interesting times ahead, when the files on CF crack open. 
Although this will all of course now be snowed under by the murder of your poor MP

He wrote them a letter, not phoned them.

Now speculate about how he got a letter to them.

Posted it at the post office? But why would he need to do that if he lived in close proximity, and PDL is not a big place i don't think. And yes, why not a phone call if he had their contact number? Doesn't make sense.

I was going to say, because phonecalls can be traced. But then why would he invite the McCanns to call HIM? That also doesn't make sense.

What would make sense is a personal visit from a mutual friend delivering a verbal message, and a verbal message being returned by the mutual friend. Nothing traceable that way, except the involvement of the mutual friend.

Edited to add: If the McCanns rang CF back to accept his invitation, then there would be a record of it, would there not?

BBM, Not if they were prepaid "burner" throwaway phones, but not sure any of them had such?

whodunit wrote:
No, I have not run away with myself. Unfortunately I have been studying this precise issue for close to 30 years so I feel obligated to try and educate others who have, quite understandably, no idea how or why these groups operate. I've simply tried to correct what I believe are false impressions.

As I said, in a matter of days you have taken unproven press reports about Clement Freud's past and woven it into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, hence my saying you're running away with yourself.  I'm sure years of study has been beneficial to you for whatever reason but frankly anyone with an interest in the subject can research without the need for your unfortunate term of phrase "I feel obliged to try and educate others".  You're not preaching to the local guild of village idiots you know.

To date there is nothing to suggest a connection between Madeleine McCann's disappearance and Clement Freud and in reality I should be extremely surprised if there ever was or will be.

Just look at the preposterous reports of the past few days and now we are being subjected to the weekend flood of McCann spin that we've grown to expect over the past nine years.

In the words of Pamela Fenn - it's all rubbish!

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:  He and Robert Murat were on “nodding terms” at the Pigs Head, according to the landlord of the boozer in Portugal.
Now that is funny only the Sun could print something like that!  I've heard of a nodding donkey but a nodding pig is a new one on me.

Was David Cameron there I wonder - he's got a bit of a taste for pigs heads hasn't he?

NB:  katkat - that's French for a four wheel drive isn't it?

Verdi wrote:

whodunit wrote:
No, I have not run away with myself. Unfortunately I have been studying this precise issue for close to 30 years so I feel obligated to try and educate others who have, quite understandably, no idea how or why these groups operate. I've simply tried to correct what I believe are false impressions.

As I said, in a matter of days you have taken unproven press reports about Clement Freud's past and woven it into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, hence my saying you're running away with yourself.  I'm sure years of study has been beneficial to you for whatever reason but frankly anyone with an interest in the subject can research without the need for your unfortunate term of phrase "I feel obliged to try and educate others".  You're not preaching to the local guild of village idiots you know.

To date there is nothing to suggest a connection between Madeleine McCann's disappearance and Clement Freud and in reality I should be extremely surprised if there ever was or will be.

Just look at the preposterous reports of the past few days and now we are being subjected to the weekend flood of McCann spin that we've grown to expect over the past nine years.

In the words of Pamela Fenn - it's all rubbish!

Crikey Verdi, who can make sense of your posts when a large majority of them are dismissive, sarcastic and derisive. I read some of your posts and don't know whether I'm Arthur or Martha. I have yet to see you pitch your star on any wagon.

whodunit wrote:

MayMuse wrote:Inquiry to be held by Dame Lowell Goddard

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The McCanns will be re-evaluating their contact with him. I think they must mean past contact? 
Requests for emails/correspondence from them and possibly the Freud family to be submitted. 

Gosh that was quick, I only asked for proof of the letter/ emails a few hours ago? 
Someone's on the ball 

No grass growing on this one it seems? 
Although accusations of possible links to MBM disappearance seem rather presumptuous at this early stage. Remember no matter what his "dalliances" were, he has a family who loved him and would be extremely hurt and shocked. 
IMO

All I can say is WOW. Is this the first time the McCs have been forced to hand over potentially incriminating material? I mean they got away without having to disclose financial, medical, or phone records. Suddenly their nasty little box of secrets might actually see the light.

Why?  Because James Murray of the Express, who has regularly flooded the nation with his McCann propaganda, says so?

aquila wrote:
Crikey Verdi, who can make sense of your posts when a large majority of them are dismissive, sarcastic and derisive. I read some of your posts and don't know whether I'm Arthur or Martha. I have yet to see you pitch your star on any wagon.

So sorry I disappoint you aquilla.

Not sure how your comment relates to my reply to whodunit but never mind - I'm sure you realize that my intentions, like yours, are honourable.

"Clement had this way of making everything seem a little less terrible. When he heard about the dogs, he remarked laconically, ‘So what are they going to do? Put them on the stand? One bark for yes, two for no?’ He was right, of course; it was ridiculous."
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yep!

SO 'ridiculous' that when K&GM were 'confronted', when made 'arguido/arguida', with 'the dog sniffed blood, in your apartment' BOTH of them stated in interviews, 'Oh, that will be Madeleine's 'blood' from her nosebleed'

BOTH, instantly 'claiming' that 'any blood found' could be Madeleine's! (from her nosebleed)

Of course, 'since' then we've had the previous 'occupant' of G5A 'claiming' it could possibly be HIS 'blood' from him, 'shaving' BEHIND the 'sofa'!

Methinks it was RIDICULOUS that the McCan'ts ''claimed' ANY 'blood', in G5A, AS Madeleine's! (BEFORE 'Shaverboy's' erm, 'convenient' LATER intervention)

jta: GM 'claimed/protested' at the THIRD 'libel case' hearing he and K and the twins, LOST....................."But, but, the 'dogs' found nothing, M'lady'

(Strangely, 'forgetting' the dog DID 'sniff' Shaverboy's 'blood'!)

'So why did you and your wife 'claim' that 'the blood, any blood, in your apartment was Madeleine's, from her 'nosebleed', BEFORE 'Shaverboy's' intervention?'

GM 'Ah.....erm, um'

Why would such a well connected man like Freud be at all interested in entertaining such a couple as the McCann's in a high profile missing child case involving their daughter? And to entertain the McC's by cooking for them in his nightshirt LOL. How crazy is that! And what is the significance of K. McC mentioning him in her book? Why would the media mention this matter in a high profile investigation into a still missing child so many years later and connect Freud to the McCann's when there is no evidence of an abduction? Where is this ridiculous story leading to? Why all these innuendos by msm in regard to the BS stories involving the McCann's and whatever nonsense they want to spin next. If nothing else it is getting old to say the least. IMO the parents know exactly what happened to Madeleine and why.

Now, 'if' Nic could 'conveniently' FIND a 'beer promoting T-shirt, some 'dodgy' smelling 'aftershave' in Clammy's old 'villa' she's 'got her man'!

Hasn't she?

Oh, AND a 'massive' defamation COMPO 'bill' from Portuguese 'Schitzo man, taxi man and young man'.

Perhaps 'Pinky' could be THEIR 'spokesman'!

Mathew Freud says that it would be "totally inappropriate" for the police to ask about who his father Clement Freud knew in PdL, and at the same time he downplays the seriousness of the sex-abuse crimes committed by his brutal rapist father:

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"Asked if there was any information that might help police with their inquiries, in terms of people his father might have known in Praia da Luz, Mr Freud said it was 'a totally inappropriate line of questioning given an ITV allegation of teenage groping in 1956'."

What's his problem? Rape is not groping. And while Rupert Murdoch's son-in-law Matthew Freud may live in a media world, the account by Vicky Hayes, who was raped by his father Clement Freud, should not be labelled an "ITV allegation". It is an allegation made by Mrs Hayes, and nobody has suggested that she isn't telling the truth. Other victims have also come forward. Matthew Freud's attitude towards rape victims seems to be very different from most people's.

"Inappropriate line of questioning" - you what???

If Freud is guilty of those crimes then it definitely needs investigating and his victims need to be heard and have their day in court for any type of justice they could possibly receive.
But i don't think he had anything to do with Madeleine McCann's disappearance. But he might know someone who did?