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Post by Nina 13.06.15 18:03

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sonic72 wrote:Why is Fiona Payne listed as Fiona Webster in articles relating to the ride? Have her and David divorced?
I posted the same question a few weeks ago, sonic.  I believe he sponsored her for the bike ride
She's doing a Healy!
I think it's unusual to change unless you've separated.  Perhaps we'll find out eventually.  There has been speculation here that one of the group has separated (JT/ROB).
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Maybe she got fed up with his nipple tricks
Hope someone wholesome and trustworthy are looking after her daughters.

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Post by sammyc 13.06.15 18:12

Kate and Fiona look fantastic -  healthy, happy, hair done, nails done etc, looking forward and enjoying life now and glowing with pride knowing that Madeleine is still missing because of their actions that holiday and who is still with the paedo who abducted her whilst they were doing the same thing as they are doing in the photo.
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Post by Guest 13.06.15 18:23

Well said, sammyc.

Apparently K is going to be on TV on Monday.  She's unable to stay out of the limelight.

It's like groundhog day.
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One of his sponsors...........................

Leicester McCanns£50.00
10.06.15 Go for it Bro but take it easy on day 1 and not too much vino to replace the calories!
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WOW!

A 'WHOLE' £50 from Gerry and 'family' to his 'bro'!

That's got to be a 'mistake', surely?

It should be £5,000.00p shouldn't it?

Or even £50,000.00p!

After all they told us they had over a £1miilion of their 'own' money!

They 'spend' more than £50.00p on J Mc's 'birthday present', imo.

So, cmiiw, 'they' all 'sponsor' each other?

The McCann's and friend's £50 'run-a-round'?

There's only ONE £50 MP 'donation', which, Gerry 'gives/donates' to John, John 'gives/donates' that £50 to Kate, Kate 'gives/donates' that £50 to Fiona etc, etc., until the 'last' person 'gives/donates' the original £50, from Gerry, to MP, with resultant 'publicity'.

'EVERYONE'S A WINNER!'!

Is that GM, behind, the 'blonde' on the 'right' of the picture?

In magnification, seems to be 'same' hairstyle.
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Q: What did the photographer 'say', instead of 'say cheese', to make all the people 'laugh/smile', including K, 'uncle' J and Fi?

A: "Madeleine was abducted!"


Stop it Jean, I am starting to hurt!!
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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 13.06.15 18:43

Hope they all arrived safely at the end of the first stage, wouldn't want any more missing people and to have to send TM out searching again  big grin
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Post by lj 13.06.15 18:52

Tony Bennett wrote:Predictably, the Sun had a piece this morning - by Antonella Lazzeri - who else?, puffing up Missing People:

Kate says thanks to Sun over lost kids

by ANTONELLA LAZZERI

Kate McCann has thanked Sun readers after revealing that ten missing children have been found thanks to The Big Tweet.

Kate, whose daughter Madeleine disappeared eight years ago, launched this year's initiative in The Sun last month. She called the success "absolutely wonderful". The 47-year-old asked people to retweet appeals sent out by charity Missing People in a bit to trace vanished kids.

Three youngsters were found on the first day and seven more later. Speaking on the eve of a five-day Edinburgh to London cycle ride, Kate said "It really shows how much the public can help, I want to thank everyone who joined in and ask them to keep helping". Kate of Rothley Leics, hopes to raise £10,000 with 20 other cyclists for Missing People.


I wonder exactly how these 10 missing children were 'found' by the Missing People tweets?


That's the big lie of all missing persons organizations: they inflate the numbers who go missing, and the numbers "found" include those who came back by themselves, and are in no way numbers of "found because of the alert system".

In the US slowly the public also wakes up to this gigantic fraud. 

An ambiance in which Kate must feel very at home though.

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I am sure these comments will disappear soon, and I believe it will again be a long time before we will be allowed to comment on the M____'s again. I cannot get a comment to go up if I put in the full name of the Mc_____'s, But I can do so if I respond to a comment.
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People below who criticise her are a disgrace. Everyone makes mistakes and shes paid a high price for hers. Atleast shes doing something for charity unlike most. If you can't say something positive atleast try and keep ur heartless opinions to urself.
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Yet another publicity stunt backed by the biased media I expect. I hope the media will realise that people are beginning to see through the spin now and are asking some questions about the McCanns.
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Exactly, It's been a long long time since we were allowed to comment on the McCanns, But the money and publicity is rolling along. But I do not think they will all live happily ever after, I think the net in closing in. And how much has the Criminals in Uniforms investigations cost us, The Criminals in Uniforms criticized the Portuguese Police in very strong colourful language, but what have they done, nothing, just stayed in luxury hotels, sat in the sun and enjoyed themselves. In January last year the headlines was Detectives leaving for Portugal, arrests imminent, then they had new leads and more arrests imminent. and NOTHING, They continued to criticize the Portuguese Police, but the Portuguese Police have never assassinated a man like the British Criminals in Uniforms did to Charles De Menezes, the Portuguese Police have not protected Paedophiles for over 50 years like our Criminals in Uniforms have, and that includes our MI5 and MI6 Paedophile Protectors. The Portuguese Police know who is responsible, the dog they used found the evidence in the hired car, but that was not part of the plan.
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Parents like her are doing or have done time inside.
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Are there any other parents like her.
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If she had kept an eye on her child like any other responsible parent, she would have saved herself a 500 mile bike ride
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I make about EU800 weekly and work 25 hours. MY freind got me into it after I saw her first check EU500 for just some part time data entry work.working from home saves money in several ways like "Tax".Love being home with the family.
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No sign of child neglect charges still. I wonder why.

Others have been in court and sent to prison for leaving a child unattended, why have this couple avoided prosecution?
Comment while you can. This won't be here long. They still have protection in high places.
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I have always wondered that. Also how was it that they gained so much publicity so quickly. It was almost as though they had a plan worked out.
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No chance of Child Neglect Charges, remember they had the help of Coulson and Cameron, so that eliminates any charges of Child Neglect. Now what other family would be so stupid as leave their child or children in an unlocked room, in a foreign country without a babysitter, THE Mc____S. How to make a few million, do a book and a film, leave your children in an unlocked room in a foreign country without a babysitter, then just sit back and watch them disappear, then watch the money roll in. And now you are a celebrity. Television talk shows, newspaper coverage, pictures on the front page, meeting Cameron, get Branson to give you a few hundred thousand pounds, keep a sad face all the time, say how heartbroken you are, but at the same time loving it all.
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If she was working class she'd be in jail.
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Personally I have never left my young children alone in a holiday apartment.
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Neither have I, nor would I, nor should anyone but there is no way that losing your child is a just punishment for that.
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The Portuguese authorities are still convinced that the McCanns are the most likely perpetrators. Rightly or wrongly, there will always be that suspicion and stigma hanging over their name, no matter how many bike rides she does.
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No, but it is Madeleine that we should feel sorry for. Her parents left her and the twins alone while they went off enjoying themselves.
I only hope and pray that whoever took her would love and cherish her. All children deserve loving parents.

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Post by Guest 13.06.15 19:57

Madeleine is missing at the very LEAST because Kate and Gerry McCann left them (by their own admission) in an unlocked flat with an access point they couldn't see for 30 minutes at a time.

This is the bottom line of what happened.

How she is even involved with a charity for missing children is mind boggling.

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Post by Tony Bennett 13.06.15 20:03

The BBC's 'take' on the story - not on their main news page, only on the 'BBC Scotland' page:

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Guest 13.06.15 20:06

They are being supported by an enormous establishment infrastructure.

What the hell is this really all about?

Not two middle class doctors from Leicester that's for sure.
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Post by HelenMeg 13.06.15 20:19

BlueBag wrote:They are being supported by an enormous establishment infrastructure.

What the hell is this really all about?

Not two middle class doctors from Leicester that's for sure.
Yes - the establishment.

Actually was reading an article this morning in the Times Mag about Etonians and Old Etonians - how they become or are part of the establishment and look after each other for ever.

Whoever this is about has a lot of good establishment friends- he / she has been supported very well - but it wont last for ever. The truth will out.
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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 13.06.15 20:24

The Mcs (& sadly the twins) will be thrown to the wolves once the Establishment is sufficiently sure it's safe to do so, i.e. the reveal can't do any harm
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Post by Liz Eagles 13.06.15 20:55

lj wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:Predictably, the Sun had a piece this morning - by Antonella Lazzeri - who else?, puffing up Missing People:

Kate says thanks to Sun over lost kids

by ANTONELLA LAZZERI

Kate McCann has thanked Sun readers after revealing that ten missing children have been found thanks to The Big Tweet.

Kate, whose daughter Madeleine disappeared eight years ago, launched this year's initiative in The Sun last month. She called the success "absolutely wonderful". The 47-year-old asked people to retweet appeals sent out by charity Missing People in a bit to trace vanished kids.

Three youngsters were found on the first day and seven more later. Speaking on the eve of a five-day Edinburgh to London cycle ride, Kate said "It really shows how much the public can help, I want to thank everyone who joined in and ask them to keep helping". Kate of Rothley Leics, hopes to raise £10,000 with 20 other cyclists for Missing People.


I wonder exactly how these 10 missing children were 'found' by the Missing People tweets?


That's the big lie of all missing persons organizations: they inflate the numbers who go missing, and the numbers "found" include those who came back by themselves, and are in no way numbers of "found because of the alert system".

In the US slowly the public also wakes up to this gigantic fraud. 

An ambiance in which Kate must feel very at home though.
The craft of this charity is it exists entirely on this one phrase "we are a lifeline when someone disappears". A seven word catchprase that is never demonstrated in any great detail.

No British MSM has ever to my knowledge questioned the validity/effectiveness of this particular charity. Not one journalist nosey enough to take a good look at the whole setup. Not one 'mystery customer', not one financial journalist, not one journalist interested in a charity with a monopoly and a very cosy relationship with large businesses, the Home Office, the UK police, EU support etc.
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Post by Nina 13.06.15 21:50

aquila wrote:
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Tony Bennett wrote:Predictably, the Sun had a piece this morning - by Antonella Lazzeri - who else?, puffing up Missing People:

Kate says thanks to Sun over lost kids

by ANTONELLA LAZZERI

Kate McCann has thanked Sun readers after revealing that ten missing children have been found thanks to The Big Tweet.

Kate, whose daughter Madeleine disappeared eight years ago, launched this year's initiative in The Sun last month. She called the success "absolutely wonderful". The 47-year-old asked people to retweet appeals sent out by charity Missing People in a bit to trace vanished kids.

Three youngsters were found on the first day and seven more later. Speaking on the eve of a five-day Edinburgh to London cycle ride, Kate said "It really shows how much the public can help, I want to thank everyone who joined in and ask them to keep helping". Kate of Rothley Leics, hopes to raise £10,000 with 20 other cyclists for Missing People.


I wonder exactly how these 10 missing children were 'found' by the Missing People tweets?


That's the big lie of all missing persons organizations: they inflate the numbers who go missing, and the numbers "found" include those who came back by themselves, and are in no way numbers of "found because of the alert system".

In the US slowly the public also wakes up to this gigantic fraud. 

An ambiance in which Kate must feel very at home though.
The craft of this charity is it exists entirely on this one phrase "we are a lifeline when someone disappears". A seven word catchprase that is never demonstrated in any great detail.

No British MSM has ever to my knowledge questioned the validity/effectiveness of this particular charity. Not one journalist nosey enough to take a good look at the whole setup. Not one 'mystery customer', not one financial journalist, not one journalist interested in a charity with a monopoly and a very cosy relationship with large businesses, the Home Office, the UK police, EU support etc.
That is the most meaningful thing I have read all day about the McCanns and what surrounds them.

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Post by Tony Bennett 13.06.15 21:58

Nina wrote:
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The craft of this charity is it exists entirely on this one phrase "we are a lifeline when someone disappears". A seven word catchprase that is never demonstrated in any great detail.

No British MSM has ever to my knowledge questioned the validity/effectiveness of this particular charity. Not one journalist nosey enough to take a good look at the whole setup. Not one 'mystery customer', not one financial journalist, not one journalist interested in a charity with a monopoly and a very cosy relationship with large businesses, the Home Office, the UK police, EU support etc.
That is the most meaningful thing I have read all day about the McCanns and what surrounds them.
Valid points raised above.

Their last annual report, which does expand quite a bit on their activities, can be read at this link:

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Their total annual income in the past two years is around the £2.5 million mark.

They rely quite a lot on volunteers to give advice and help to people whose close ones have gone missing.

They have six named 'Patrons'.

Three of them are:

Sir Richard Branson
Sir Cliff Richard and
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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by PeterMac 13.06.15 22:18

Why are Cliff Richard and Steven Fry so keen to get "runaway teenagers" back home so quickly ?

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Post by HelenMeg 13.06.15 22:22

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:The Mcs (& sadly the twins) will be thrown to the wolves once the Establishment is sufficiently sure it's safe to do so, i.e. the reveal can't do any harm
Yes - the protection of the Mcs  is just a consequence -
The Mcs must always live life looking behind themselves
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As is clear already, this Missing People bike ride is very much in the public eye - and expected to be ever more so as the event moves ever closer to London.

I've been having a quick look around the McCann-doubting FB groups, and sad to say I have seen some of people's frustration, anger and even hatred towards the McCanns spilling out into some very nasty comments indeed, some much worse than some of Brenda Leyland's worst.

If sections of the government and the mainstream media want another excuse to clamp down on the internet, take powers to close down websites and forums, send internet trolls to prison for longer than two years etc., nothing would suit them better just now than to be able to extract some of the nastiest comments and to make hay with them, alongside picutures of a grieving mother valiantly striving to raise money for a worthy cause.

Just look, for example, at how the Sun ably milked the willing nastinesss of Rosalinda Hutton, aided and abetted as we know by Sonia Poulton.  

And this is still how much of the population will see it - nasty people hounding a noble, brave woman. Probably that's much how the man-in-the-street  also assessed the nasty tweets and the suicide of Brenda Leyland, even though we mightr see it rather differently here. 

So I hope if members here happen to see any of these nasty comments in the next few days, they will help to get them removed. They will only do harm to the cause of forums like this one.

Film-makers like Jenny Kleeman may be watching closely

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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[quote="PeterMac"]Why are Cliff Richard and Steven Fry so keen to get "runaway teenagers" back home so quickly ?

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Tony Bennett wrote:As is clear already, this Missing People bike ride is very much in the public eye - and expected to be ever more so as the event moves ever closer to London.

I've been having a quick look around the McCann-doubting FB groups, and sad to say I have seen some of people's frustration, anger and even hatred towards the McCanns spilling out into some very nasty comments indeed, some much worse than some of Brenda Leyland's worst.

If sections of the government and the mainstream media want another excuse to clamp down on the internet, take powers to close down websites and forums, send internet trolls to prison for longer than two years etc., nothing would suit them better just now than to be able to extract some of the nastiest comments and to make hay with them, alongside picutures of a grieving mother valiantly striving to raise money for a worthy cause.

Just look, for example, at how the Sun ably milked the willing nastinesss of Rosalinda Hutton, aided and abetted as we know by Sonia Poulton.  

And this is still how much of the population will see it - nasty people hounding a noble, brave woman. Probably that's much how the man-in-the-street  also assessed the nasty tweets and the suicide of Brenda Leyland, even though we mightr see it rather differently here. 

So I hope if members here happen to see any of these nasty comments in the next few days, they will help to get them removed. They will only do harm to the cause of forums like this one.

Film-makers like Jenny Kleeman may be watching closely
Interesting thought, was the MP Bike Ride deliberately staged to provoke a reaction?
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Post by snook 14.06.15 0:34

I predict this bikeathon will be a net financial loss ( not that MP will advertise the fact. It's accounts are as transparent as you know who's).  Usually when people undertake to participate worthy fundraisers, they cover their own costs whether it be the London marathon or trekking the Sahara desert. 
Costs in respect of actual activities must be minimal for MP. Free FB & Twitter, lots of free publicity because of their ambassador and the hard work done by volunteers. 
I would love to know how it justifies such a huge wage bill and running costs and what the staff actually do?
On second thoughts perhaps I'm being a little harsh.  Gala dinners and self congratulations don't come cheap.
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Post by jeanmonroe 14.06.15 1:05

Newcastle, York, Nottingham and London are......... 'preparing' themselves!
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Post by Joss 14.06.15 7:17

Kate McCann in this piece for Mumsnet is implying that a non existent alert system may have helped Madeleine.  

They'll spin any story in their favour and for whatever is their agenda.

Now if she had said there was an alert system which was for some reason not operating that evening, then fire away and ponder what might have been.

To ponder what might have been about something that never existed?

They did this with the child checking scheme.  Harped on about a NON EXISTENT checking scheme.  Harped on about other countries having one, other resorts.


Fiona Payne should stand up and be counted and tell the public WHY she gave the statement she did regarding Kate McCann and the unlocked patio door

Kate McCann should stand up and be counted and tell the public WHY she gave the statement she did regarding the unlocked patio when being interviewed on Tubridy Show.

THEIR ACCOUNTS ARE POLES APART.

FLOORS ALL YOURS KATE AND FIONA.  

500 MILES TO EACH SEARCH YOUR CONSCIENCE.

500 MILES TO THINK OF MADELEINE WHAT BECAME OF HER.

500 MILES TO REFLECT ON THE STORIES YOU HAVE EACH TOLD.

500 MILES TO DO THE RIGHT THING. 

WHEN YOU REACH THE TOWER OF LONDON PERHAPS YOU WILL BE READY TO TELL THE TRUTH - FOR MADELEINE, AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER MISSING PERSONS WHO YOU CLAIM TO BE AIDING.

READY TO TELL THE PUBLIC IF FIONA PAYNE'S POLICE WITNESS STATEMENT WAS HONEST, AND IF SO, THEN KATE McCANNS CLAIMS WERE NOT, AND VICE VERSA.


The paying public deserve honesty.

Madeleine, and persons missing deserve honesty!

The children of the tapas group deserve honesty, not monster mums!

'Vital time was lost in the search for Madeleine'

Indeed it was, EIGHT YEARS TOO LATE for Madeleine, EIGHT YEARS of suffering for this child if alive and with paedophiles.   EIGHT YEARS when NONE of the McCann party co-operated with police, ALL refusing to take part in a reconstruction to assist them.

EIGHT YEARS Kate McCann and Fiona Payne have stayed schtum about the TRUTH OF WHAT WAS SAID AT THAT DINNER TABLE.

EIGHT YEARS is a long time to have continued not to help Madeleine, the case of her disappearance.

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Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:As is clear already, this Missing People bike ride is very much in the public eye - and expected to be ever more so as the event moves ever closer to London.

I've been having a quick look around the McCann-doubting FB groups, and sad to say I have seen some of people's frustration, anger and even hatred towards the McCanns spilling out into some very nasty comments indeed, some much worse than some of Brenda Leyland's worst.

If sections of the government and the mainstream media want another excuse to clamp down on the internet, take powers to close down websites and forums, send internet trolls to prison for longer than two years etc., nothing would suit them better just now than to be able to extract some of the nastiest comments and to make hay with them, alongside picutures of a grieving mother valiantly striving to raise money for a worthy cause.

Just look, for example, at how the Sun ably milked the willing nastinesss of Rosalinda Hutton, aided and abetted as we know by Sonia Poulton.  

And this is still how much of the population will see it - nasty people hounding a noble, brave woman. Probably that's much how the man-in-the-street  also assessed the nasty tweets and the suicide of Brenda Leyland, even though we mightr see it rather differently here. 

So I hope if members here happen to see any of these nasty comments in the next few days, they will help to get them removed. They will only do harm to the cause of forums like this one.

Film-makers like Jenny Kleeman may be watching closely
Interesting thought, was the MP Bike Ride deliberately staged to provoke a reaction?
Yes.

Also.. who is posting the "troll" messages?

Problem-reaction-solution.

It's too easy to lead the public by the nose.
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Post by plebgate 14.06.15 9:46

Seems to me they are being treated better than the Royal family.  What next, a sponsored horse race at Ascot?

Those grinning faces for the cameras, makes me sick - Maddie possibly alive in the hands of paedoes or dead with no sign of her little body being found.    No way would I be grinning  for cameras no matter if 50 years had passed by.

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Post by snook 14.06.15 9:50

'Kate' has found 10 missing children with her big tweet. Who is writing this rubbish?
I think she needs to have words with whoever issues these alerts because I can't recall the media reporting 10 children going missing.
How contemptible is she and MP? 

 I wonder how much they do for the hundreds of children who flee the corrupt care system every year? Probably don't count. After all they are not the most beautiful, intelligent,  nearly 4 year old you could ever be fortunate enough to come across.
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Post by plebgate 14.06.15 9:59

Ladyinred wrote:Well said, sammyc.

Apparently K is going to be on TV on Monday.  She's unable to stay out of the limelight.

It's like groundhog day.
Well I am surprised - NOT.

All smiles when discussing the bike ride and how the money raised will be helping other families and then sad, sad face when Maddie is mentioned no doubt.

I shan't be watching her for sure.

I am sick of them and all this grinning and as a parent I would be not be doing so on tv as I would be thinking what if my daughter is watcing all of this.  What would she make of all this grinning and charity events, helping other people, when she didn't answer those 48 questions.

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