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Post by rustyjames 15.06.15 9:27

jeanmonroe wrote:Has anyone managed to find out the names of the other 17/21 'riders' on this 'adventure'(KM)?

5 are from CIL Management Consultants, some of which have apparently had to buy bikes just to take part....

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Post by PeterMac 15.06.15 10:29

If Kate #McCann falls off her bike, who will she call first?

a) Sky News
b) Clarence Mitchell
c) An ambulance

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Post by jeanmonroe 15.06.15 10:38

"Cheer up John, we're on a cycling holiday"

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Post by Tony Bennett 15.06.15 11:11

Dr Kate McCann, Good Morning, ITV, 15 June 2015


'It’s inevitable I will be thinking of Madeleine'


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Obviously I can’t give any investigation details out but let’s just say we’re really encouraged. There has been a lot of progress in the last six months, plus last year. The co-operation between the UK and the Portuguese seems to be really good which is really positive for us and I can say there is progress being made.



Kate McCann, mother of missing Madeleine, is taking part in a bike ride from Edinburgh to London to raise awareness and funds for the charities Missing People and Child Rescue Alert. The team plan to cycle 500 miles in five days, and we're catching up with them on day three.

Eight years since Madeleine McCann disappeared, a child is reported missing every five minutes in the UK (National Crime Agency figures 2012/13) - 89% of those missing incidents are resolved within 48 hours.

Child Rescue Alert is a UK-wide alerting system to secure the safe return of the most vulnerable missing children - the charity currently have 556 live appeals.

Kate tells us that she is 'encouraged' by the developments in the search for her missing daughter, and that when times get tough she'll be saying "I’m doing this for Madeleine, I’m doing this for all missing children.”


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Eight years since Madeleine McCann disappeared, a child is reported missing every five minutes in the UK (National Crime Agency figures 2012/13) - 89% of those missing incidents are resolved within 48 hours.


Without the need for a charity with millions of pounds infrastructure costs.

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Post by noddy100 15.06.15 11:20

How can anyone be encouraged by no progress?
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Post by worriedmum 15.06.15 11:23

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btw have we seen this stretch of water somewhere before?
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Post by jeanmonroe 15.06.15 12:04

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1hr 24mins 15 secs onwards.................lasts for about 6 mins.

And 'during' that 6 minutes either 1.2 OR 2, depending on what 'figures' Missing Children or Missing People 'charities' publish this week, children will 'go missing'

If it is 'only' 1 child 'missing' every 5 minutes, then, that, is a 40 (FORTY) percent 'reduction' of 'missing' kids. (12 an HOUR)

It 'used' to be a child 'went missing' every 3 minutes! (20 an HOUR!)

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Post by LG 15.06.15 12:31

Sorry to be so thick, but if a child goes missing in the UK every 5 minutes, why has the system only been used ONCE in the past year?
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Post by Gaggzy 15.06.15 12:39

PeterMac wrote:
If Kate #McCann falls off her bike, who will she call first?

a) Sky News
b) Clarence Mitchell
c) An ambulance


d) Gordon Brown
e) Tony Blair
f) Cherie Blair
g) Auntie Phil
h) Ghost Busters
i) International Rescue F.A.B.
j) blah, blah, blah, etc, etc, etc ......

z) THE PORTUGUESE POLICE.
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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 15.06.15 12:43

LG wrote:Sorry to be so thick, but if a child goes missing in the UK every 5 minutes, why has the system only been used ONCE in the past year?
According to the Report of the Trustees as at 31 March 2014, page 7 Achievements and Performance

" The charity [small c] reconnected 1,126 missing children and adults with their families."

Must be correct as the report was signed off by the Charity's Trustees, accountants BDO LLP and accepted by the Charities Commission as a true record. Can't see any of those fellahs telling a whopper big grin
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Post by willowthewisp 15.06.15 12:45

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Kate could always call a friend, just like on 3 May 2007, ask DCI Nichola Wall to look at the deleted text messages from Kate and Gerry's phones to see who they made contact with!?
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Post by LG 15.06.15 12:56

"reconnected" was that just a line of communication?  Seems an odd choice of word to me.
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Post by jeanmonroe 15.06.15 13:06

Let's just hope and 'pray' that a CRA 'alert', and by 'association' KM, about a 'missing, vulnerable 3 year old 'child', is NOT 'sent' to the 'local', 'registered' with CRA, with spurios 'details', paedo's in 'that' area.!

And 'they' go out erm, 'looking' for the 'missing' child.

Or is CRA only for the 'good' guys?

A paedo may not nessecarily 'know' there's a 'missing' child, in his/her (there are women paedo's) locale, but they will when CRA 'inform' them, by text!

The peado's can 'relax' until the next 'text' from CRA, telling them there's a 'vulnerable, missing' child around where they 'live'.

And 'they' can join the 'search'.

"I was just putting the struggling child, i found, in my car, to take him/her down to the local Nick, honest guv!"

What could possibly, GO WRONG.?

CRA have 'thought' of this 'scenario' haven't they?

Silly me! Of course they HAVE!
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Post by snook 15.06.15 13:09

There are lies, damn lies then there are statistics ( Or words to that effect)
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What's with KM's (new) 'raised' inflections, Aussie 'style, in her 'talking'.

'raising' the pitch of the last 'word' of sentences.

It's weird, imo.
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Post by jeanmonroe 15.06.15 13:25

snook wrote:There are lies, damn lies then there are statistics ( Or words to that effect)

There are 'porky, porkies and porkers' and then, there is duck pond,.... 'cankles' winkwink
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Post by snook 15.06.15 13:36

Jeanmonroe,  Kate is getting down with the kids innit?     
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Post by Gaggzy 15.06.15 13:55

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Post by jeanmonroe 15.06.15 13:56

snook wrote:Jeanmonroe,  Kate is getting down with the kids innit?     

Pheweeeee!!!

I thought you were going to 'say' "DP is getting down WITH the kids"

So i won't say 'that', either!
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Post by Liz Eagles 15.06.15 16:00

I'm posting the introductory paragraph to Lazz's latest blog.



'The night that our little girl was taken from her bed, we mistakenly presumed that some kind of alert would have gone out immediately to the public, to get as many eyes and ears involved in the search as possible.'



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I think we all know that Kate McCann did NOT on the night she reported her child as missing THINK FOR A SPLIT SECOND that an alert of some kind would go out IMMEDIATELY TO THE PUBLIC, to get as many eyes and ears involved in the search as possible.

We all know the stories Kate McCann told then and has been telling for the past 8 years and NONE involved her thinking that an IMMEDIATE alert to the public would go out.








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Post by noddy100 15.06.15 16:02

There were no iphones then or were there?
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Just the Kate McCann 'show' bit.

What i don't 'get', besides Chinese arithmatic, is that even after all this 'promoting, pushing' KM 'down our throats, for 8 YEARS, at every 'opportunity' by msm, MP, MP's etc., STILL 'nobody' 'likes her'!

(got lots of 'photo's' saved, on numerous disks, NOT in Hatton Garden safety deposit box, of KM 'with' well...........'everyone', including the HS, TM)

(along the lines of Savile with Thatcher, Royalty etc.,)

'THEY' won't ever be able to 'say' Kate who?

WHY are msm, MP, MP's still 'backing' at vast expense, a woman who said 'i was glad the investigation, into my daughter's disappearance was closed'

WHY are msm, MP, MP's still 'backing/promoting' a woman who said 'whether the investigation, into my daughter's disappearance' is re-opened, or not, it dosen't matter'

There must be hundreds, nae thousands, of relatives of 'real' missing people who'd love to have 38 solely dedicated police staff, assigned to 'look for' their missing loved ones.

But, it seems, you only get the 'bees knees' erm, 'treatment' forced upon you if you say 'it dosen't matter, about my missing relatives 'disappearance'

I'm not very 'intuitive' but there is, imo, something 'not quite right' about this whole CRA 'thingy'.

thinking

There must be charity board room 'meetings' discussing whether the KM 'brand' is actually worth persisting with, and asking themselves, "WHY IS IT, PEOPLE JUST DON'T, AND NEVER WILL, LIKE HER? PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE A WORD SHE SAYS, YET WE PROMOTE HER, AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. WE MUST BE LOSING SUPPORT, FOR OUR CHARITY, HAND OVER FIST. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT SHE REFUSED TO CO-OPERATE WITH THE POLICE INVESTIGATING HER DAUGHTER'S DISAPPEARANCE. NOW, WHY WOULD SHE NOT CO-OPERATE WITH THE POLICE? I, AND EVRYONE IN THIS ROOM, WOULD CO-OPERATE, FULLY'



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Just the Kate McCann 'show' bit.

What i don't 'get', besides Chinese arithmatic, is that even after all this 'promoting, pushing' KM 'down our throats, for 8 YEARS, at every 'opportunity' by msm, MP, MP's etc., STILL 'nobody' 'likes her'!

(got lots of 'photo's' saved, on numerous disks, NOT in Hatton Garden safety deposit box,  of KM 'with' well...........'everyone', including the HS, TM)

(along the lines of Savile with Thatcher, Royalty etc.,)

'THEY' won't ever be able to 'say' Kate who?

WHY are msm, MP, MP's still 'backing' at vast expense, a woman who said 'i was glad the investigation, into my daughter's disappearance was closed'

WHY are msm, MP, MP's still 'backing/promoting' a woman who said 'whether the investigation, into my daughter's disappearance' is re-opened, or not, it dosen't matter'

There must be hundreds, nae thousands, of relatives of 'real' missing people who'd love to have 38 solely dedicated police staff, assigned to 'look for' their missing loved ones.

But, it seems, you only get the 'bees knees' erm, 'treatment' forced upon you if you say 'it dosen't matter, about my missing relatives 'disappearance'

I'm not very 'intuitive' but there is, imo, something 'not quite right' about this whole CRA 'thingy'.

thinking

There must be charity board room 'meetings' discussing whether the KM 'brand' is actually worth persisting with, and asking themselves, "WHY IS IT, PEOPLE JUST DON'T, AND NEVER WILL, LIKE HER? PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE A WORD SHE SAYS, YET WE PROMOTE HER, AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. WE MUST BE LOSING SUPPORT, FOR OUR CHARITY, HAND OVER FIST. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT SHE REFUSED TO CO-OPERATE WITH THE POLICE INVESTIGATING HER DAUGHTER'S DISAPPEARANCE. NOW, WHY WOULD SHE NOT CO-OPERATE WITH THE POLICE? I, AND EVRYONE IN THIS ROOM, WOULD CO-OPERATE, FULLY'



They went the wrong way on day one - just like Crecheman
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[quote="Gaggzy"][quote="PeterMac"][quote][i]If Kate #McCann falls off her bike, who will she call first?

a) Sky News
b) Clarence Mitchell
c) An ambulance[/i]
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d) Gordon Brown
e) Tony Blair
f) Cherie Blair
g) Auntie Phil
h) Ghost Busters
i) International Rescue F.A.B.
j) blah, blah, blah, etc, etc, etc ......

z) THE PORTUGUESE POLICE.[/quote]



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zz. None of the above. 'We assume there is an alert system in place' so that we don't need to do anything ourselves
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Post by worriedmum 15.06.15 22:44

aquila wrote:I'm posting the introductory paragraph to Lazz's latest blog.



'The night that our little girl was taken from her bed, we mistakenly presumed that some kind of alert would have gone out immediately to the public, to get as many eyes and ears involved in the search as possible.'



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I think we all know that Kate McCann did NOT on the night she reported her child as missing THINK FOR A SPLIT SECOND that an alert of some kind would go out IMMEDIATELY TO THE PUBLIC, to get as many eyes and ears involved in the search as possible.

We all know the stories Kate McCann told then and has been telling for the past 8 years and NONE involved her thinking that an IMMEDIATE alert to the public would go out.








Worth looking at the McCanns ' first interview with the BBC's Jane Hill, about searching

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Post by jeanmonroe 16.06.15 0:07

KM '.......to get as many eyes and ears involved in the search as possible.'
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'absent mindedly' erm, 'forgetting', that HER, and her T7 'friends', R OLDFIELD, JANE T, D WEBSTER (and Fiona W?) and her husband's tennis 'buddy' JW (T10?) 'eyes and ears' were not 'needed' to be 'involved' in the 'search' as soon as possible.

BUT, 'everyone' else SHOULD be 'looking' for her 'missing' child. The child she, diliberately and consciously, left alone, in an unlocked apartment, out of her sight, for over 34 minutes, for her husband, but over an HOUR and a HALF, for her, which culminated in her child 'disappearing'
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Post by Guest 16.06.15 7:24

The finances of these charities need serious questioning.

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Only 1.2% of money donated (£118,000 out of £9 million) went to good causes.


They all use millions for expenses and salaries.


That's shocking.


I'd like to see the figures for MP.
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