Re: An open letter from Sonia Poulton to Jim Gamble

by aiyoyo 29.01.15 16:11

plebgate wrote:Fair play, SP has let the World know what went on and I don't blame her for pointing out what she perceives as personal attack against her.

It's a fact, not just how she perceives it.
JG blatantly was attacking her openly on twitter for all to see.
Good on SP to counter him, equally openly, for all to see.
His tweets show him up as being very peevish and unprofessional.
Given he's a senior police officer one expects him to behave with decorum and not to publicly and openly side with parents of a ~~missing~~ err...dead child since the mystery of her disappearance is yet to be solved.

His siding and protection of McCanns is biased when the child's interest should be paramount to him given he was CEO of Child (not parents) Exploitation Online Protection. His assertion on twitter that her parents are the victims is totally devoid of objectivity and neutrality when Madeleine is the only true victim and her parents blatantly let her down by their refusal to answer questions and cooperate with investigators.

It's only right for general public to expect a senior police staff to stay well clear or at the very least stay neutral of high profile highly controversial case such as this one, and his conduct so far has been anything but that, which invites question on his conduct.
His open endorsement of S&S's book and his open endorsement of MB's doorstepping of McCanns doubter as well as his personal attack on their doubters on the social media went beyond professional capacity.

by noseyparker 29.01.15 16:25

by ultimaThule 29.01.15 16:31

As I understand it, the IPCC is investigating CEOP and NCA officers and staff in relation to how intelligence from Canadian police was received and dealt with.

The sound of chickens coming home to roost is becoming deafening.

by Joss 29.01.15 17:03

whatsupdoc wrote:Just guessing but I would think that there is quite a lot of administrative work involved in making a documentary and it's not just scribbling a few notes and taking a camera crew out.

There could be reasons associated with Brenda...respect and also extra footage may have been planned.

I don't understand the reasons for Sonia to have revealed her plans. Maybe she is hoping for some reactions.

Thanks for your reply. I agree, it is anyone's guess at this stage.

by aiyoyo 29.01.15 18:57

whatsupdoc wrote:

I don't understand the reasons for Sonia to have revealed her plans. Maybe she is hoping for some reactions.

I think so too - that she released the trailer to see what reactions she will get from a certain quarters, and possibly also to see if any one of the four doorstepped would intimidate her with lawyer letter not to proceed.

She said she doorstepped FOUR central characters who were at the scene when the abduction is alleged to have happened. Can only mean 'four' out of the NINE main characters that were there. Kate is revealed as one of the "FOUR".
Who could the other three out of the Tapas-7? Rule out Diane, Rachel...
I'd guess Jane Tanner is one of them, may be also Mr Payne.....and Matthew Oldfield.

by TMH 29.01.15 23:21

Not sure if SP doorstepped him/her but it is said that she questioned Dr Gaspar for the documentry

by Gaggzy 30.01.15 0:45

TMH wrote:Not sure if SP doorstepped him/her but it is said that she questioned Dr Gaspar for the documentry

I find it strange that the Met police appear to believe the McCanns version of events. Andy publicly stated that the parents were NOT considered suspects in Madeleine's disappearance.

So they are taking the word of two doctors as truthful.

Yet the Gaspars - two doctors - must be telling a pack of lies about what they witnessed Payne and McCann talking about at that holiday villa in Spain, as their account seems to have been dumped at the bottom of the in-pile.

Okay, all this is 'on the surface.' We don't know what is really being investigated, who is really believed, if and when the police are going to 'swoop.'

Wasn't there a film out about ten years ago called Good cop, Bad Cop?

How about a remake entitled : Good Doc, Bad Doc.

by Joss 30.01.15 6:05

Gaggzy wrote:
TMH wrote:Not sure if SP doorstepped him/her but it is said that she questioned Dr Gaspar for the documentry

I find it strange that the Met police appear to believe the McCanns version of events. Andy publicly stated that the parents were NOT considered suspects in Madeleine's disappearance.

So they are taking the word of two doctors as truthful.

Yet the Gaspars - two doctors - must be telling a pack of lies about what they witnessed Payne and McCann talking about at that holiday villa in Spain, as their account seems to have been dumped at the bottom of the in-pile.

Okay, all this is 'on the surface.' We don't know what is really being investigated, who is really believed, if and when the police are going to 'swoop.'

Wasn't there a film out about ten years ago called Good cop, Bad Cop?

How about a remake entitled : Good Doc, Bad Doc.

From what i have read the cops play good cop bad cop to catch their suspect sometimes, so in other words if cops lie its okay if the end justifies the means. Just their tactics i suppose.
I do often wonder why the police appear to believe in the lying pair, one of the reasons the Portugese investigators didn't believe their version of events, but in the UK the sun shines out of the McC's butts, Not!

by Montclair 30.01.15 9:24

aiyoyo wrote:
plebgate wrote:Fair play, SP has let the World know what went on and I don't blame her for pointing out what she perceives as personal attack against her.

It's a fact, not just how she perceives it.
JG blatantly was attacking her openly on twitter for all to see.
Good on SP to counter him, equally openly, for all to see.
His tweets show him up as being very peevish and unprofessional.
Given he's a senior police officer one expects him to behave with decorum and not to publicly and openly side with parents of a ~~missing~~ err...dead child since the mystery of her disappearance is yet to be solved.

His siding and protection of McCanns is biased when the child's interest should be paramount to him given he was CEO of Child (not parents) Exploitation Online Protection. His assertion on twitter that her parents are the victims is totally devoid of objectivity and neutrality when Madeleine is the only true victim and her parents blatantly let her down by their refusal to answer questions and cooperate with investigators.

It's only right for general public to expect a senior police staff to stay well clear or at the very least stay neutral of high profile highly controversial case such as this one, and his conduct so far has been anything but that, which invites question on his conduct.
His open endorsement of S&S's book and his open endorsement of MB's doorstepping of McCanns doubter as well as his personal attack on their doubters on the social media went beyond professional capacity.

Excellent, agree totally! clapping

by aiyoyo 30.01.15 10:38

TMH wrote:Not sure if SP doorstepped him/her but it is said that she questioned Dr Gaspar for the documentry

In her trailer video she said she doorstepped 4 central characters - main players who were in PDL at the scene of happening.
The Gaspars weren't on the scene .....interviewed him/her through appointment maybe but not doorstepped I'd think.

by noai11es 30.01.15 15:49

Can anyone supply a link to Gamble's attack on Sonia Poulton?

by **Tony Bennett** 30.01.15 15:56

noai11es wrote:Can anyone supply a link to Gamble's attack on Sonia Poulton?

Er, well, it was Sonia Poulton who attacked Jim Gamble, actually.

Jim Gamble replied by tweet as follows:

Jim Gamble
‏@JimGamble_INEQE
@SoniaPoulton thank you for this note. It confirms that you do irony well. I will let my reputation speak for me & yours for you.

I think in one other tweet he queried whether or not she was a 'professional' journalist.

This is what Poulton terms 'an attack'

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ETA: Research article about Jim Gamble and the Madeleine McCann case connection here:

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t9338-ineqe-jim-gamble-s-creation-mark-williams-thomas-dr-joe-sullivan-glimpse-csa-missing-people-and-their-connections-with-the-madeleine-mccann-case

by noseyparker 30.01.15 16:36

Tony Bennett wrote:
noai11es wrote:Can anyone supply a link to Gamble's attack on Sonia Poulton?
Er, well, it was Sonia Poulton who attacked Jim Gamble, actually.

Jim Gamble replied by tweet as follows:

Jim Gamble
‏@JimGamble_INEQE
@SoniaPoulton thank you for this note. It confirms that you do irony well. I will let my reputation speak for me & yours for you.

I think in one other tweet he queried whether or not she was a 'professional' journalist.

This is what Poulton terms 'an attack'

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Er, Well Tony is she a professional journalist or not? Jim Gamble I will let my reputation speak for me.You do irony quite well yourselk Jimmy boy

by j.rob 30.01.15 17:22

aiyoyo wrote:
plebgate wrote:Fair play, SP has let the World know what went on and I don't blame her for pointing out what she perceives as personal attack against her.

It's a fact, not just how she perceives it.
JG blatantly was attacking her openly on twitter for all to see.
Good on SP to counter him, equally openly, for all to see.
His tweets show him up as being very peevish and unprofessional.
Given he's a senior police officer one expects him to behave with decorum and not to publicly and openly side with parents of a ~~missing~~ err...dead child since the mystery of her disappearance is yet to be solved.

His siding and protection of McCanns is biased when the child's interest should be paramount to him given he was CEO of Child (not parents) Exploitation Online Protection. His assertion on twitter that her parents are the victims is totally devoid of objectivity and neutrality when Madeleine is the only true victim and her parents blatantly let her down by their refusal to answer questions and cooperate with investigators.

It's only right for general public to expect a senior police staff to stay well clear or at the very least stay neutral of high profile highly controversial case such as this one, and his conduct so far has been anything but that, which invites question on his conduct.
His open endorsement of S&S's book and his open endorsement of MB's doorstepping of McCanns doubter as well as his personal attack on their doubters on the social media went beyond professional capacity.

by j.rob 30.01.15 17:43

tiny wrote:Looks like most of you agree with gamble in your onslaught of Sonia poulton.

Tweet of the week from Gamble..@JimGamble_INEQE: @SoniaPoulton I've worked with a lot of strong prof independent journalists who are ferocious in their search for the truth. IMO ur not one.

Everything I have seen and heard about Jim Gamble makes me think he is a complete and utter plonker. His incredibly childish response to Sonia's letter confirms this.

Could Gamble please point us to the strong prof independent journalists who have been ferocious in their search for the truth of what happened to Madeleine McCann? They all seem to have been Carter Rucked into peddling the TM silly 'abduction' story which these days no-one really seems to believe at all.

Gamble's comment: "IMO ur not one" is such an obvious put-down. Clearly because he is rattled that Sonia has openly confronted him with his lack of professionalism and his obvious lack of objectivity.

As what Sonia has written is, imo, a reasonable challenge and she has ruffled his feathers he is left with the only option left to him - given, imo, his lack of integrity - which is to try to put her down.

Like I say, Gamble comes across in the most appalling light, imo.

Why shouldn't he be subjected to some rigorous questioning? About time I say.

by j.rob 30.01.15 17:43

Perhaps Gamble is a fan of Lorraine Kelly?

by j.rob 30.01.15 17:57

Lorraine Kelly the respected and professional journalist who is or was, according to this link, campaigning for Kate to be awarded an OBE!

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t21074p30-omg-i-just-read-on-fb-lorraine-kelly-will-be-campaigning-for-kate-mccann-to-be-made-obe lol4

:wtf2:

by j.rob 30.01.15 18:09

Ah, here we are. On the 'Lorraine Kelly' gallery of First Post. Jim Gamble meets with facebook to try to get them to install a panic button on its website.

big grin

Hmmmm - might come in handy if Kate, Gerry, Tapasniks, or Jim 'n Lorraine happen to be in the vicinity. Just press the panic button and hope that they get 'whooshed' away before any innocent children are abducted in the vicinity.

Can't be too careful.

http://www.firstpost.com/topic/person/lorraine-kelly-ceop-head-jim-gamble-on-meeting-with-facebook-video-xbV86XP0GkU-8932-55.html

by j.rob 30.01.15 18:21

Snipped from link below. Some very big players indeed appear to be part of a wider McScam:

"How Lorraine Kelly,Fiona Phillips and Richard Branson link to the Madeleine McCann case #McCann

The postcode lottery supports Missing People charity and £1,795,778 has been raised to date. it's main suppporters include Richard Branson, Tony Blair, Fiona Phillips and Lorraine Kelly.

Richard Bransons mother was early director of Lady Meyers' and Ernie Allens' PACT charity which links to Missing People. Later members include Laura Bush and Jim Gamble

Lady Meyer is the wife of former US ambassador
Gerry McCann met with Laura Bush and Ernie Allen on his trip to the White house
Ernie Allen was charged in on a number of accounts of fraud via fake child abduction. Lady Meyers' actions were also brought into question

Fiona Phillips and Richard Branson attended the McCanns big bash at his Kensington Roof Gardens http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246595/Kate-Gerry-McCann-host-star-studded-fundraiser-mark-1-000th-day-daughter-Maddie-went-missing.html

The London Marathon is actually "The Virgin London Marathon" http://www.virginlondonmarathon.com/ "

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rji37s