Re: Breaking News on Sky News - SY back in PDL suspects to be interviewed

by NickE 02.07.14 12:59

noddy100 wrote:
FrankS wrote:
NickE wrote:
FrankS wrote:
Justformaddie wrote:Anyone know why or when maddie was on sm couch?
'Smithman' was seen close to Malinka's apartment.

Temporary storage place maybe.

Yes very likely, but it may not have been Malinka. Smith would have noticed that Malinka was young
I Think there is a Connection,Malinka,Murat,McCann,and the first thing I'am thinking about is Dr Gaspar.
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Sorry I meant Smithman (Gerry) taking M to Malinka's apartment for temporary storage.

Organised by Robert Murat.
Why would Malinka not talk if he had done this

Never easy to squeal If there are many people involved.

by Woofer 02.07.14 13:01

NickE wrote:
FrankS wrote:
Justformaddie wrote:Anyone know why or when maddie was on sm couch?
'Smithman' was seen close to Malinka's apartment.

Temporary storage place maybe.

Yes very likely, but it may not have been Malinka. Smith would have noticed that Malinka was young
I Think there is a Connection,Malinka,Murat,McCann,and the first thing I'am thinking about is Dr Gaspar.
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Smithman was going in the direction of Malinka`s apartment and only a few metres away. I tend to think there is a connection between the 3Ms.

by **Tony Bennett** 02.07.14 13:02

Daryl Dixon wrote:
Perhaps Tannerman and Smithman are one and the same. First taken to Murats and then arranged to be taken to Malinkas. Explains time difference in sightings.

1. Tannerman - clearest possible evidence of fabrication by Jane Tanner - never existed IMO

2. Crecheman - evidence that he was invented by Operation Grange to say he had TIE'd Tannerman - again, never existed IMO

3. Smithman - so many doubts about this sighting, not least the 13-day delay in reporting it, that I can also say - never existed IMO.

So - IMO - three phantom abductors

by inspirespirit 02.07.14 13:03

inspirespirit wrote:Deleted. Speculation and info already posted previously. Imo this is not an actual photo. We should avoid this sort of speculation

Sorry.

by FrankS 02.07.14 13:04

Daryl Dixon wrote:Perhaps Tannerman and Smithman are one and the same. First taken to Murats and then arranged to be taken to Malinkas. Explains time difference in sightings.

Don't think so Daryl.

Tannerman was a complete load of baloney.

I know a lot of people on here think Smithman is Baloney too but IMO Smithman is very relevant and very credible.

by Woofer 02.07.14 13:06

Remember Malinka had access to a boat (or boats).

Google Sergey Malinka Naomi Corlett - there`s loads of links.

If SM already had a history of looking or dealing in child pics, there may be more that he could have been blackmailed with - same goes for RM. Just an opinion.

by noddy100 02.07.14 13:08

FrankS wrote:
noddy100 wrote:
Sorry I meant Smithman (Gerry) taking M to Malinka's apartment for temporary storage.

Organised by Robert Murat.
Why would Malinka not talk if he had done this
Err.... because he didn't want to implicate himself back in 2007.

Evidence now might suggest HE HAS to talk.

No need for sarcasm I am not stupid I meant now
If it was a big cover up why would SY bring in someone who would squeal with the PJ there?

by canada12 02.07.14 13:09

Regarding Smithman.
Crimewatch featured the two e-fits.
That means they believe them to be credible.
Do any of the suspects interviewed so far resemble the one, or two, men pictured on the efits?
If yes, then that may eliminate GM as the person purportedly carrying Madeleine (unfortunately).
If no, however, then that means SY still wants to find that person.
Who could that person possibly be?

by FrankS 02.07.14 13:10

Woofer wrote:Remember Malinka had access to a boat (or boats).

Google Sergey Malinka Naomi Corlett - there`s loads of links.

MATTHEW FAZACKERLEY (31) Year 2007
Matthew Fazakerley works with Sergey Malinka as a Project Organiser for Island expeditions on the boat company[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and runs a chain of computer offices with Malinka. He posts on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]and blog.abovetopsecret.com as Optimus Fett (and has posted a picture, allegedly of himself - shown below). Originally he comes from Manchester but lived in Portugal's Algarve region for 10 years. He recently lived in Lagos, Portugal, where the boat "Naomi Corlett" was berthed. In August, he posted on the "above top secret" blog that he has returned to Manchester.

by View-from-Ireland 02.07.14 13:12

Woofer wrote:Remember Malinka had access to a boat (or boats).

Google Sergey Malinka Naomi Corlett - there`s loads of links.

If SM already had a history of looking or dealing in child pics, there may be more that he could have been blackmailed with - same goes for RM. Just an opinion.

I have hazy 2007 memories (I had completed final year in university so a lot of memories of that summer are hazy!) of there being a lot of talk about a boat in relation to this case. Was it said at one time Gerry was seen on a boat or something? After the disappearance?

by FrankS 02.07.14 13:13

noddy100 wrote:
FrankS wrote:
noddy100 wrote:
Sorry I meant Smithman (Gerry) taking M to Malinka's apartment for temporary storage.

Organised by Robert Murat.
Why would Malinka not talk if he had done this
Err.... because he didn't want to implicate himself back in 2007.

Evidence now might suggest HE HAS to talk.
No need for sarcasm I am not stupid I meant now
If it was a big cover up why would SY bring in someone who would squeal with the PJ there?

Sorry noddy. Didn't mean to be sarcastic.

IMO it is not a big cover up.

by scrants 02.07.14 13:17

Justformaddie wrote:Where is malinkas house?

Malinks's apartment was on Rua 25 Abril, just around the corner from where the Smihs saw Smithman.

by **Tony Bennett** 02.07.14 13:23

canada12 wrote:Regarding Smithman.
Crimewatch featured the two e-fits.
That means they believe them to be credible.

REPLY: canada12, your statement above is based on the assumption that Operation Grange is an honest operation

Do any of the suspects interviewed so far resemble the one, or two, men pictured on the efits?

REPLY: Precisely, they are efits of TWO men, not one, which is evidence that neither was drawn up by the Smiths. PLUS Crimewatch did NOT say they were drawn up by the Smiths. PLUS the two efits were drawn up on two different computer programs. PLUS the Smiths said they could not identify him again if they saw him PLUS of course (a) they only saw him for at most a few seconds (b) in the dark (c) with very weak street lighting and (d) they admit they didn't see his face properly because the chlid he was allegdly carrying was covering up his face

If yes, then that may eliminate GM as the person purportedly carrying Madeleine (unfortunately).
If no, however, then that means SY still wants to find that person.
Who could that person possibly be?

by sofieellis 02.07.14 13:38

Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 1m
Source close to @MadeleineMcCann investigation: "Questioning of the four suspects was concluded yesterday evening."

Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 51s
Source: "Unfortunately the interviews have led to no new developments and we are back where we were seven years ago."

by sofieellis 02.07.14 13:39

Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 39s
Source: Two tracker dogs from UK could be used searching a vehicle thought to belong to one of the witnesses. #mccann

by Bishop Brennan 02.07.14 13:39

Tony Bennett wrote:
Justformaddie wrote:Hairs that were found on Sergei Malinka's chairs with DNA similar to Maddie's apparently
This is about as convincing and credible as Det Chief Supt Hamish Campbell - original co-ordinator of Operation Grange - 'finding' a tiny piece of firearms residue in the coat of Barry Bulsara/George in the Jill Dando case.

And look what happened in that case - the professional hit man who killed her is still at large

And so, the final season-7 episode is upon us: Is there a link between any of the 4As back to the McCanns...? Is there a link between any of the 4As to Madeleine...? Or is this all just part of the rewrite of history...? Stay tuned for what promises to be a dramatic finale!

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Meanwhile, continuing the run of coincidences in the libel sub-story, all of this is happening just in time for next weeks trial speeches. What are the odds? Will all this activity influence the judge? Will it all be included in Gerry's Big Speech?

by sofieellis 02.07.14 13:40

Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 36s
Source: Today police began the process of speaking to a total of 11 witnesses. #mccann

by NickE 02.07.14 14:02

sofieellis wrote:Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 36s
Source: Today police began the process of speaking to a total of 11 witnesses. #mccann

Any idea who these witnesses might be? Tapas staff, creche staff .... or?

by SixMillionQuid 02.07.14 14:13

Hairs found on the couch of Sergey Malinka had DNA very similar with Madeleine McCann’s

And yet hair samples found in 2007 were inconclusive. Come to think of it when was Malinka's couch searched?

by sallypelt 02.07.14 14:17

If sniffer dogs are going to be used on "suspects cars" then there's not much chance of them using it on SM's car, as that went up in smoke not long after MBM disappeared. Is this a coincidence or just convenient?

by sofieellis 02.07.14 14:18

NickE wrote:
sofieellis wrote:Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 36s
Source: Today police began the process of speaking to a total of 11 witnesses. #mccann

Any idea who these witnesses might be? Tapas staff, creche staff .... or?

No idea, but if the witnesses progress the case as much as we're led to believe the arguidos have, then I don't suppose it matters who they are.

by Baldrick 02.07.14 14:23

sofieellis wrote:Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 1m
Source close to @MadeleineMcCann investigation: "Questioning of the four suspects was concluded yesterday evening."

Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 51s
Source: "Unfortunately the interviews have led to no new developments and we are back where we were seven years ago."

Well they are very unlikely to say "The people we interviewed squealed like pigs, and told us exactly what we wanted to know"

by FrankS 02.07.14 14:24

Brunty on Sky News Live a few mins ago.

The 3 reasons why SY/PJ are speaking to S.M on a second day.

There is a forensic link between his apartment and apartment 5a. (Didn't mention the hair).

He was overheard on the phone the next day (May 4th) talking suspiciously.

His car was burnt out with the words 'speak' painted next to it.

by Bishop Brennan 02.07.14 14:37

FrankS wrote:Brunty on Sky News Live a few mins ago.

The 3 reasons why SY/PJ are speaking to S.M on a second day.

There is a forensic link between his apartment and apartment 5a. (Didn't mention the hair).

He was overheard on the phone the next day (May 4th) talking suspiciously.

His car was burnt out with the words 'speak' painted next to it.

Right - so the exact same reasons that the PJ spoke to him, and examined all his computers back in 2007. All part of AR's approach to ignore any work done by the PJ and all of the available files. Following (that part of) the remit - to investigate as though it was for the first time. Ditto the digs, and ditto the 11 witnesses. All been done 7 long years ago, but reported now as though it is BREAKING NEWS...

by whatliesbehindthesofa 02.07.14 14:44

One might question why exactly Scotland Yard have leaked to the BBC that there have been no new developments. Surely, if that really was the case there would be no point in leaking anything.

by Cristobell 02.07.14 14:46

So in sights at the moment, are Sergi Malenka, a 50 year old with mental disabilities, a man who was 16 at the time and friendly with the disabled guy, and an Ocean Club driver.

Sadly prisons are filled with mentally disabled people, they are probably the easiest group to pin a crime on and no doubt the ever helpful Jane Tanner will recognise him as the man she saw, and a few of the tapas will probably recall seeing him hanging around.

Imo, it is unbelievably wicked of the police to join in with the McCanns and their friends in pointing the finger at innocent people, especially considering the police know (or should know) exactly who was responsible for Madeleine's disappearance. What will become of those men named arguidoes? Will they be publically vilified? Will they be physically attacked? Just how far will Scotland Yard go to steer suspicion away from the parents? It now seems to include endangering lives.

by Newintown 02.07.14 14:48

Bishop Brennan wrote:
FrankS wrote:Brunty on Sky News Live a few mins ago.

The 3 reasons why SY/PJ are speaking to S.M on a second day.

There is a forensic link between his apartment and apartment 5a. (Didn't mention the hair).

He was overheard on the phone the next day (May 4th) talking suspiciously.

His car was burnt out with the words 'speak' painted next to it.

Right - so the exact same reasons that the PJ spoke to him, and examined all his computers back in 2007. All part of AR's approach to ignore any work done by the PJ and all of the available files. Following (that part of) the remit - to investigate as though it was for the first time. Ditto the digs, and ditto the 11 witnesses. All been done 7 long years ago, but reported now as though it is BREAKING NEWS...

As the McCanns were telling the whole World from very early on that the PJ were useless and were trying to implicate them in Madeleine's "disappearance" I can see that SY are looking on the new investigation as a "clean sweep" and are starting from the beginning, although they may be making reference to the files made available to see what has been done earlier and overlapping things that have already been done, i.e. interviews of certain people.

That way if a case ever goes to trial the McCanns cannot claim that they didn't have a fair trial as SY were only following what the PJ said from the beginning. The fact that the new operation was based in Oporto away from the original police investigation may also point to the fact that the SY operation is distancing itself from the original investigation and is looking at it with "fresh eyes" as to not to leave themselves open to "corruption" shouted from the rooftops by the McCanns et al.

All IMO of course.

by Bishop Brennan 02.07.14 14:56

Cristobell wrote:So in sights at the moment, are Sergi Malenka, a 50 year old with mental disabilities, a man who was 16 at the time and friendly with the disabled guy, and an Ocean Club driver.

Sadly prisons are filled with mentally disabled people, they are probably the easiest group to pin a crime on and no doubt the ever helpful Jane Tanner will recognise him as the man she saw, and a few of the tapas will probably recall seeing him hanging around.

Imo, it is unbelievably wicked of the police to join in with the McCanns and their friends in pointing the finger at innocent people, especially considering the police know (or should know) exactly who was responsible for Madeleine's disappearance. What will become of those men named arguidoes? Will they be publically vilified? Will they be physically attacked? Just how far will Scotland Yard go to steer suspicion away from the parents? It now seems to include endangering lives.

If you are wearing a "cover-up" hat, then the answer is that £10m+ and 38 SY officers buys you as many Arguidos as you require, and goes as far and as long as you need to go. If this is just a fishing expedition by AR (and if Brunt's report is accurate then it clearly is) then it's shocking and VERY destructive.

by noddy100 02.07.14 14:57

Well judging by previous form and how much the mccanns appear to be able to orchestrate things maybe they insisted these 4 were looked at and SY have complied but found nothing

by Tangled Web 02.07.14 14:59

sofieellis wrote:Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 1m
Source close to @MadeleineMcCann investigation: "Questioning of the four suspects was concluded yesterday evening."

Dominic Hurst ‏@DominicHurst 51s
Source: "Unfortunately the interviews have led to no new developments and we are back where we were seven years ago."

Well, if we're back to where we were seven years ago, the finger must be pointing right at the McCann's IMO.