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Four
Mornings - 3 years old Madeleine McCann - Tuesday (May 4, 2010)
Concha
Garcia Campoy: The McCanns meet for four mornings the most
controversial issues, suspicion falling on them.
Promo:
CGC:
They were accused of having drugged their children
Kate McCann:
It's a shame that such information has been published without any basis,
a lie, what more I can say?
CGC: They were accused of being
responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine
Gerry McCann: The
way the media handled the leak of the accusations, the lies that the
media turned to give an impression that we were guilty, the
disappearance of our daughter, was especially difficult.
CGC:
They
were accused of withholding evidence. The McCanns show their faces
and
respond to all these accusations in the morning of Four. Indeed,
today
we ask the most controversial questions, the most difficult. The
answers
here in the mornings of Four.
Jerome Boloix is here at
this
table and Alfonso Egea, good morning. We are going to show the
interview
that the McCanns have given us, also the most controversial
questions,
the doubts are not currently disclosed, we will raise them
first,
are these:
Voiceover: Today, in our program,
the McCanns
answer all the questions regarding the disappearance of
Madeleine,
which have surrounded the case and show them as suspects.
Case
managers in Portugal claim that there is no evidence that the
child
has been abducted, as argued by the McCanns.
Gonçalo
Amaral
(file image): The main hypothesis is that it was a domestic
accident.
She was a light sleeper, sedated or not by her parents, woke
up,
went to the window and fell off the couch killing her.
CGC: I was
very impressed that arrived to say at some point they had drugged the
children ...
Paulo
Sargento: Your interpretation is contrary to
death although there is
evidence, cadaver odour, the smell of human
blood and there is a set of
forensic evidence
Kate McCann:
It's a shame that such information has been published without any basis,
a lie, what more I can say?
Voiceover:
Gonçalo Amaral says
that there are witnesses who saw Gerry McCann
carrying a child's body
the night of the disappearance of Madeleine.
GA
(image file):
An Irish family said that that night they had met a man
carrying a
body of a child in his arms. When they saw Gerry coming off
the plane
also with his child, said they were sure, to eighty percent,
it was
the same man they had seen just after the disappearance of
Madeleine.
Voiceover:
There are also other questions, alleged
pressure from the British
Embassy to defend the thesis of abduction,
contradictions in
statements by the McCanns and their friends about
what happened that
night and even basic elements in any research that
did not come here
to do.
GA (image file): Here there are many things left to do, if
the McCanns have as much desire to reopen the investigation, starting
with the reconstruction, it would be very very interesting.
CGC:
Do you want me to reopen the investigation in the case of her daughter,
Madeleine?
Voiceover: Some members of the McCann investigation are
not in prison because of their political contacts
Voiceover
(Paulo Sargento): I am sure that if it were a Portuguese couple there
would be different treatment and forensic evidence has been formed as
evidence and probably, probably, the couple would be in prison.
CGC:
Some tests were gathered in the apartment, also in the car they had
rented, do they know the results of these tests?
Voiceover: Now
for the first time the McCanns show their faces and face all these
accusations
CGC:
Come at once to hear the answers to these
questions from the McCanns,
but really research Gonçalo Amaral spoke
Portuguese withforensic evidence, evidence that they are hiding
something "is so clear?
Jerome Boloix: Let's see the evidence,
because dogs are moving there, which belong to the English police and
not to the Portuguese
police, detected without a doubt and detect
body smell blood in certain
places, behind the sofa the room, in the
closet of the McCanns and the
car they have rented 25 days later.
These samples are collected here
are analyzed in the laboratory of
Birmingham and replied that the blood
is collected there is a DNA
analysis that has to have 19 alleles, say
19 meters, including 15,
15, correspond completely with Madeleine,
without any doubt.
Alfonso
Egea: This is irrefutable, is the
science, and we're tired of saying
it, now I want to invite people to
think with common sense, the
mother of Madeleine McCann washed a
stuffed animal that was a crucial
test, she never explained why.
Madeleine McCann's mother and father
were called for a reconstruction,
that is the most normal thing in
the world, to see what had happened
that night, nothing more, but
they never wanted to do it. Portuguese
police goes a step further and
say, okay, we cannot prove his guilt but
let's use the figure of
arguido, they're going to become official
suspects. What did Kate and
Gerry McC do immediately after leaving the
police station? Leave the
country, go to England. All this, I want
people to understand, not
to say that they are bad guys, that they are
guilty, no,but
everything that this couple do is discordant with what
any other
parent in a similar situation would do, nothing more than
that.
CGC:
Now let's see the answers but Jose really like forensics, forensic
evidence as they say, a Portuguese police, not all, but a party led the
research are there?
Jose Cabrera: objective and conclusive
forensic
evidence, really like those at 100 percent because otherwise
there is
no judicial process had advanced. What happens is that in
the absence
of a body ... DNA is 80 percent, say body odour that dogs
can make
mistakes ...
Cristina Fernandez: We do not have the
body of Marta Del Castillo
and have two people in prison, then in the
absence of bodies are not
always, but if the prosecutor, I am
reading, you have all the
documentation you the world but I
understand as a street person, if
there are some evidence, a DNA,
there is smell of corpse, evidence
against the parents,
contradictions of the witnesses, these Messrs.
should have been
charged.
CGC: Let's leave these questions for now because they
will receive responses from the McCann’s and analyze them here.
Replay
Promo ...
CGC:
I'm still here at the table with Jerome
Boloix, Cristina Fernandez,
Alfonso Egea, Jose Cabrera. Indeed, we
have asked some of the most
controversial questions to the McCanns,
this is the most sincere
interview.
Sign in video interview
CGC:
I'd like to ask
two or three questions about the research questions,
I understand that
it is a bit painful, is said to have collaborated
in the reconstruction
of the facts, not your friends.
Gerry
McCann:
If we analyze the way they were treated, they thought that this
reconstruction
was not going to help find Madeleine. They were going to
leak things
tothe media, our friends did not want a media circus.
Kate
McCann: No one asked about the possibility of reconstruction actors. In
the UK there is a program called Crime Watch,
which uses actors to
reconstruct crimes because he is injurious to ask
people who have
gone through an experience so traumatic re-live it.
CGC: Some
tests were gathered in the apartment, also in your rental a car, do they
know the results of these tests?
GM: It essentially proves
nothing, there are elements of DNA that forensic
experts said they
were from five different people. The coroner's report
was crystal
clear, he said that none of these samples was evidence of
nothing, he
said there was blood but no one identified (Gerry scratches
head)
CGC:
Why do you think that the head of the investigation, Gonçalo Amaral,
wants to prove that you are guilty?
GM:
(Turning his hand over
his head) I really do not want to talk about
this because one can
speculate about his motives, but the important
thing is that there is
no evidence that Madeleine is dead and that we
share. What Amaral
said and his career speaks for itself.
Fin video
CGC:
These
are some of the most remarkable questions what do you think?
Perhaps
part of the reconstruction ... Why do not you want to rebuild?
I
particularly struck me as the weakest, I think that at some point
have
to be there right? Although there is a media circus that has not
ridden
one.
JB: No, no. Yes, I have assembled parents, they have
mounted.
This disappearance is a global media and because the parents
at the
outset when the girl disappeared, presumably, the first call to
make
Sky News is not the police. From there we all know that ...
CGC:
They say it is not true.
JB:
It's true because there is a call
log. But let's discuss the issue of
reconstruction. The issue of
reconstruction when there are certain
witnesses who did not agree on
the narrative of events, it is
absolutely necessary because the
police and the judges will know on the
spot as he has done what and
it will also relate. The actors do it is
absolutely impossible, they
do not have Messrs. clear that this is a
police investigation and
judicial, not a media issue, they say there's
a TV show, as do all
the television they want. The police need to do
this to find evidence
that they are lying some of the witnesses and on
the other hand, a
little to finish, it is striking that they have
refused and refused
and friends but if you were to make reconstruction
for a story that
made programming for TV, in that it involved.
CGC: Cannot a court
order be made compelling their friends and to make that reconstruction
in situ?
JC:
Reconstruction, if ordered by a judge is
mandatory. What happens is
that they are English in another country
that is not his and that the
judge felt the vest before committing
themselves.
CF: I want to
ask something else, like you see
flaws in the part of the
reconstruction also do not see flaws in the
police operation? That is,
as you are saying that they refused at
first to rebuild and as you say
at that time would have been better
had it not failures even when the
police arrive at the apartment ...?
AE:
Hardly any police
investigation, and that Jerome can attest, a good
start. I mean, you
have to open the entire range of possibilities and
among all the
possibilities you have ...
CF: Yes, but went
right or went wrong?
AE and JB: It was all I had to do ...
CF:
OK So the Portuguese police
JB:
We also have to make one
qualification. After 24 hours of disappearance
of the girl, the
English police are people in Portugal, since then
absolutely,
absolutely until they leave and literally fleeing Portugal
...
CGC:
A moment Jerome, because they told us too much because we were told was
a lengthy interview, which took 50 minutes to get.
JB:
It is
possible, I have this information, you may have taken 50 minutes.
In
those 50 minutes I guess before the police presence did not they and
their
friends began to look for the girl, but nobody went looking for
the
girl, they all sat in the living room and bed where he allegedly
the
girl was sleeping waiting for the police to arrive. Let's put
ourselves
in a situation, if someone comes to the apartment and found
her
daughter missing, it starts looking like a madman, screaming and
everyone
comes to look. On the other hand I continue to underpin that,
after
24 hours the British police are there and someone from the first
until
the last moment the Portuguese police and British police acting
jointly
in the investigation of this case.
AE: Let's see,
talking
about the police taking 50 minutes to arrive, is a question
that in
this particular case is not as relevant as it may seem, the
actions
are carried out as in any other case. To me there is something
else
that catches my eye watching the interview, I see a total change
of
registration as to gestures, tones and words they use, do you sense
a
change in the time you said, be careful, go with hard questions?
CGC:
Yes,
and I warned them, because normally in the interviews do not
notice
when we launch the gun question, but in this case, obviously, I
feared
that they got up from the chair because there are precedents,
with
which I warned, I ask these questions, I warn them I notice only
for
healing and health so it was responding to everything. I would like
us
to see more of that interview because they insist too insistently on
the
theory of abduction, they "deny the greatest" (Item: Game of the
Mus)
to the thesis of the Portuguese police.
Sign in video interview
CGC:
Do you want to reopen the investigation into the case of your daughter
Madeleine?
KM:
There is a missing child. This case is not
closed, is like saying good
luck, have not found it necessary to
revise all information.
GM: I just think that this is
unacceptable, the parents of a girl have to boost research.
CGC:
I
was very impressed at some point said they came to drugging children,
I
suppose it is the most serious allegations made to them.
KM:
Well,
again that's a total lie, errr is a shame it was published. Keep
in
mind that this has no basis, it is all a lie what more I can say?
GM:
There
were things said that were published and clearly some things were
invented,
other people who have gone through similar tragedies and
exposed to
the media have gone through similar things. Journalism, but
now had
credibility before seeking quick profits, forgetting the damage
they
can do these things.
CGC: This is a question for both but
especially for Kate, the Portuguese police interrogations have they been
particularly hard?
KM:
The interviews are one of those
situations that I never believed I
would live. It is very clear that a
man has taken Madeleine and we have
to find him to find Madeleine
and that the police did not locate the
man so they suspect me and
Gerry, well, that hurts me (Video Image Sign
Madeleine)
GM:
You have to identify that person, whoever has
taken Madeleine is out
there, then there are other children at risk.
How can we participate
in this "kidnapping"? We had no vehicle or
anything. The lies that
the media turned to give an impression that we
were guilty was
particularly difficult, but not as difficult as the
night she
disappeared.
Fin video
CGC: Well, are evidence that each
cause a reaction. What do you think?
AE:
Hottie everything
they have said. First, reassure the public, the
alleged kidnapper of
Madeleine McCann has three years of inactivity, he
has not kidnap
anyone else despite claims that Gerry McCann is a man
without putting
any evidence on the table.
There is one fact I think
that
sometimes has been magnified by the word that is used drug, is not
the
same drug to give medication to a child, you forget Kate McCann to
Portuguese
police told that night, " her daughter was being treated?
yes, I
have given some painkillers, she has a very light sleep is a
very
hyper child and all who have children and grandchildren know that
there
are certain medicines for children, nothing happens, they take
the
bag and give the kid. That's what the police really wanted to say,
beware
that this may have been due. It makes me accused of drugging my
daughter,
I am not a black widow. Nobody makes that scenario, it is
also
evident.
CGC: Jose, I very interested in your opinion.
JC:
It's
exactly as it is saying Alfonso is incredible, we mourn with them,
what
we want, we can be skeptical, but both cannot be doctors, they
said
in their statements, I read them, I was in Lisbon to 10 days
because I
was called to go to the Portuguese TV, in fact, Portuguese
police
cowering, ie the entire government cowering Portuguese English
because
there are 400,000 living in Portugal, it is very important,
then of
course, what happens here , I believe or not believe them? It
is not
believe them or not, this is not what they say is consistent
with
what the police investigated. It is not consistent.
JB: It
should
also be noted that the start of the investigation is about an
abduction,
launched immediately after the alarm about the disappearance
of
Madeleine police begin to investigate and stop on Robert Murat, are
investigated
more than 100 English settlers paedophiles in the Algarve
and for
three months only and exclusively follows the path of
kidnapping.
Until three months later, with the help of British police
and also an
absolutely essential element here is Mark Harrison, the
head of the
National Center for Missing and child abuse from United
Kingdom who
went there, made with Portuguese police A review of
research and the
English police issued a report that says you have to
change the line
of research that Madeleine may be dead and needs to be
investigated
to parents outlining the issue and says: This measure
seems to be a
proportionate response and appropriate to the
investigation.
CGC:
Well a lot of attention because tomorrow we
have more data. It
really has been a very thorough interview and there
are major issues
that will continue. Tomorrow we will continue
discussing. Thank you
Jerome, Cristina.
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