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Post by truthfultiger 17.01.14 22:46

Re the nursery, although nursery attendance isn't mandatory, if a child hadn't attended in a while the nursery would definitely be contacting the parents to check whether the child was coming back. There it's a lot of pressure on nursery spaces (especially ones run by local authorities which by the sounds of it this one is, being attached to a school) and staff would need to know whether to give the place away. Also under child protection procedures and concern for the child, staff may (and should have) been asking for more information about his absence. Additionally, if what the neighbour said is true re mum not coming hone and police being called, it is likely that there is already some sort of child protection involvement in place.

However at the moment I would much prefer to Hope that the dad or other relative has taken him away as that would give the greatest chance for the wee boy just now.
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Post by Hopespringseternal 17.01.14 22:56

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I presume from this that they have increased the number of search dogs in the pool so that they can extend the search area. Dogs can only work for so long before requiring to be rested (give their wee noses a break) hence handlers often work 2 in rotation. Others, like Eddie and Keela are trained in scents which are linked and so work in pairs for that reason, not purely for rest purposes.
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Post by Daisy 17.01.14 23:09

ultimaThule wrote:
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If we are looking back as far as christmas then i would ask what prompted them to report him missing now rather than earlier.
What has changed in their reality to prompt the report?

It is not unknown, and i am aware of several cases where a child has been reported missing by a non family memmber or a family member not living in the household as they haven/t seen or heard from said child in weeks/months or years.
The immediate family has been forced to file a missing persons report themselves as questions have been asked and investigations started.
It has turned out the family has moved repeatedly and the new neighbors don't even know they had said missing child.
You cannot report someone missing if you don't know they exist.

It usually ends up the child is long dead and their remains have turned up at an old residence , or in once case, hauled around in a box and reburied at each move.

I would love to hear dull statements from the parents and family members and the 911 call to report him missing.


 PS please excuse my tupos i am full of flu and what looks loke an sinus infection ugh i blame my meds and so do mu cats
If something untoward has happened to this child at the hands of a family member, or members, I question why the mother has chosen to report him missing full stop.  

There are numerous examples of non-British families taking their children out of school during term time without penalty to make lengthy trips back to their homelands for some reason or other and, in the case of a pre-school child, I very much doubt that anyone would have made enquiries if it were claimed his/her other parent had taken him/her to their home country to meet grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins etc. 

It's long been my belief that children, particularly those having connections to Africa and the sub-continent and now extended to eastern european countries, slip 'off the books' in numbers which would shock if their arrival/entry and departure from these shores were monitored and recorded properly.

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Post by Guest 17.01.14 23:14

That photo of Mikaeel's mother in tomorrow's Daily Mail is clearly not one taken since his disappearance was reported. It's strange that there have as yet been no photos or press conferences.
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Post by suzyjohnson 17.01.14 23:42

truthfultiger wrote:Re the nursery, although nursery attendance isn't mandatory, if a child hadn't attended in a while the nursery would definitely be contacting the parents to check whether the child was coming back. There it's a lot of pressure on nursery spaces (especially ones run by local authorities which by the sounds of it this one is, being attached to a school) and staff would need to know whether to give the place away. Also under child protection procedures and concern for the child, staff may (and should have) been asking for more information about his absence. Additionally, if what the neighbour said is true re mum not coming hone and police being called, it is likely that there is already some sort of child protection involvement in place.

However at the moment I would much prefer to Hope that the dad or other relative has taken him away as that would give the greatest chance for the wee boy just now.

Interesting information, thanks truthfultiger

Good point about police already having prior involvement with the family

The police do seem to be giving little information away, possibly as a result of previous cases which have quickly got out of hand with the media

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Post by Hobs 17.01.14 23:59

Wan't there a matching toaster to go with the kettle hint Hint.

Hot choc with a heft slosh of mint baileys id foing wown well right now   gm

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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 0:55

Kiesha Weippeart (Abrahams) -------Kristi Anne Abrahams?

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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 1:02

candyfloss wrote:Sun launches £25,000 appeal


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£25,000 reward for 3 year old 'Pakistani' boy.

£1.5 MILLION reward for 3 year old white girl.

SIXTY (60) times as much.

Not racist, just saying.
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Post by jozi 18.01.14 1:03

jeanmonroe wrote:Kiesha Weippeart (Abrahams) -------Kristi Anne Abrahams?

Jean ??? I am lost give us another chance ???
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 1:07

jozi wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Kiesha Weippeart (Abrahams) -------Kristi Anne Abrahams?

Jean ??? I am lost give us another chance ???

Google it .

No school attendance.
Bed at 9
'missing' next morning.
pyjamas.
Mother charged, year later after media circus, T-Shirts, 'fund' etc.

R.I.P. Kiesha xx.
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Post by jozi 18.01.14 1:16

jeanmonroe wrote:
jozi wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Kiesha Weippeart (Abrahams) -------Kristi Anne Abrahams?

Jean ??? I am lost give us another chance ???

Google it .

No school attendance.
Bed at 9
'missing' next morning.
pyjamas.
Mother charged, year later after media circus, T-Shirts, 'fund' etc.

R.I.P. Kiesha xx.


OMG !!!
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Post by Cristobell 18.01.14 1:37

As this story develops it is impossible not to draw comparisons with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and they must be feeling very uncomfortable with having to comment on it.

At this stage of the Team McCann campaign, it was all systems go. Not only were they pushing abduction stories to every media outlet, they were also pressuring the PJ to do the same. Unfortunately 7 years later they are still getting away with the same.

The word 'abductor' has not, so far as I am aware, been used in connection with Mikaeel, it seems to be either/or. That is Mikaeel wandered off on his own in the middle of the night or the answer is much closer to home. They don't seem to be looking for anyone else, they have not given out any descriptions of likely individuals Mikaeel could be with and they have opened the timeline of when the little boy was last seen by someone outside of the family.

As much as we would all love to see this little boy found, it is not looking very hopeful. I hope I am proved wrong.
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Post by Cristobell 18.01.14 1:54

Breaking News - Sky News channel coming up, an individual has been detained, Sky awaiting Police Scotland to make an announcement.
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Post by Guest 18.01.14 2:00

Someone detained but still no news on the little boy. Just hoping he is ok and not another child let down.
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 2:04

Let's hope it's good news of the boy.
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Post by Hobs 18.01.14 2:05

jeanmonroe wrote:Kiesha Weippeart (Abrahams) -------Kristi Anne Abrahams?



yes she was reported missing from her bed and described as wearing a puffa jacket if i recall.

the description of what Kiesha was wearing and the fact she was allegedly taken from her bed  led to questions from analysts and investigators.

As statements came out red flags were showing up all over the place especially to statement analysts who concluded early on the mom and her hubby were being deceptive.

I spoke to my mate who was living in the area and suggested Kiesha was dumped in bushland.

A 'psychic' apparantly phoned in with a tip which led to the discovery of a body although it wasn't Kiesha's.

The behavior and language of the adults continued to indicate deception . They were  eventually arrested as they returned from the site where they dumped her after going to wish her a happy birthday. IIRC the taxi driver called LE because he was suspicious.

It seems LE also weren't buying their story and gave them plenty of rope to hang themselves with.

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Post by sofieellis 18.01.14 2:05

Please God, let this be good news.
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Post by Hobs 18.01.14 2:07

Notice the report says for the safe return.

if he is unfortunately dead they have a get out clause not to pay up.

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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 2:07

OMG dead!

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R.I.P. Mikaeel xx
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Post by Guest 18.01.14 2:11

Rest in peace,so very sad x
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 2:15

I hope to fcuk the bastard 'slips on a wet floor, bar of soap, and 'accidentally' falls down the stairs and smashes their head in on the cell door'
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Post by Hobs 18.01.14 2:17

A body has been found by police searching for missing three-year-old Mikaeel Kular.
Mikaeel had gone missing from his home in Edinburgh on Wednesday night.
His disappearance initiated a major search, with hundreds of members of the public joining search teams and police.
Police in Edinburgh said at a press conference that the body of a young boy had been found in Fife shortly before midnight. They also said a man had been detained


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 I wonder if the man is known to the family.


Sadly this end was not unexpected.

What is not known yet and may not be for a day or more is the condition  as to if it was recent or a period of time has elapsed.

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Post by Cristobell 18.01.14 2:20

Hobs wrote:A body has been found by police searching for missing three-year-old Mikaeel Kular.
Mikaeel had gone missing from his home in Edinburgh on Wednesday night.
His disappearance initiated a major search, with hundreds of members of the public joining search teams and police.
Police in Edinburgh said at a press conference that the body of a young boy had been found in Fife shortly before midnight. They also said a man had been detained


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 I wonder if the man is known to the family.


Sadly this end was not unexpected.

What is not known yet and may not be for a day or more is the condition  as to if it was recent or a period of time has elapsed.







I've just watched it live, they didn't say man - they said an individual had been detained, we don't know yet whether it is a man or a woman. Sky still saying 'person' - not being specific.
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Post by sofieellis 18.01.14 2:24

I know this news wasn't totally unexpected, but I'm devastated by the outcome. Poor little man.  sad1
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 2:25

No gender of detainee.

"discovered body"

Not saying how long been there.



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Post by sofieellis 18.01.14 2:26

Sky saying mother detained.
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 2:26

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Post by Cristobell 18.01.14 2:28

God bless him, poor little fella, his own mother.
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.01.14 2:29

33 YEARS OLD.

LAST ONE TO 'SEE' HIM!

PERHAPS EVEN NOW DCI REDWOOD WILL RE-INTERVIEW G&K MCCANN AS THEY WERE THE LAST ONES TO 'SEE' MADELEINE!

WAKEY, WAKEY REDWOOD, DO YOUR JOB AND TELL YOUR BOSS, MCCANN FUNDRAISER, BHH, TO Deleted
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