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Post by marconi 17.01.14 12:47

Now I really fear for his life. The culprit had a lot of time to plan his disappearance. My theory.
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Post by tiny 17.01.14 12:55

If he was unwell then that could be the reason he wasn't at nursery
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Post by suep 17.01.14 12:57

Mikaeel may have been sick for some time if he hadn't been at nursery all week or seen for some time. He's awfully small for a 3 year old if the reports that he's only 2 feet in height are true. Failure to thrive? Has he been seen by a doctor for this alleged recent illness? I don't like the idea of him being put to bed in a room on his own and I really don't like where my thoughts are now going ...
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Post by Gillyspot 17.01.14 12:58

He hadn't been taken to nursery as he was ill during the day. At least that is what I have read in the link below as claimed by "neighbours". I suppose there needs to be an independent sighting of poor Mikaeel to confirm this as I guess the neighbours wouldn't have seen him. His elder siblings (aged 7/9 & 5) should be old enough to be spoken to by police (with a social worker present).

Poor little lamb. I hope he is found safe & well

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scotland/top-stories/mikaeel-kular-hundreds-turn-out-to-help-search-1-3270466

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Post by sofieellis 17.01.14 13:16

It's interesting to watch how this is being reported. Martin Brunt has just said that this is a little boy who may have disappeared before Wednesday night. I wonder why it's so acceptable to assume the mother might be lying in this case, when in Madeleine's case, we are all meant to believe everything her parents tell us (even when they tell us completely contradictory things).
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Post by ChippyM 17.01.14 13:23

sofieellis wrote:It's interesting to watch how this is being reported. Martin Brunt has just said that this is a little boy who may have disappeared before Wednesday night. I wonder why it's so acceptable to assume the mother might be lying in this case, when in Madeleine's case, we are all meant to believe everything her parents tell us (even when they tell us completely contradictory things).


Possibly because she's a single mother, more than one father for her kids, a beauty therapist (ie not particularly educated). She is not a middle class doctor married to consultant surgeon.  Oh and she is not so well connected.

  People judge working class single mothers, I hope it is unfounded in this case.
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Post by tasprin 17.01.14 13:31

ChippyM wrote:
sofieellis wrote:It's interesting to watch how this is being reported. Martin Brunt has just said that this is a little boy who may have disappeared before Wednesday night. I wonder why it's so acceptable to assume the mother might be lying in this case, when in Madeleine's case, we are all meant to believe everything her parents tell us (even when they tell us completely contradictory things).


Possibly because she's a single mother, more than one father for her kids, a beauty therapist (ie not particularly educated). She is not a middle class doctor married to consultant surgeon.  Oh and she is not so well connected.

  People judge working class single mothers, I hope it is unfounded in this case.

Her mother is a doctor (retired):

Mikaeel’s grandmother, retired doctor Harjinder Kular, joined the rest of the family in Edinburgh as the search continued
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mikaeel-kular-missing-distraught-mum-3030790
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Post by margaret 17.01.14 13:33

Tangled Web wrote:Just watched Martin Brunt on Sky News.

Now we have confirmation that he didn't attend nursery on Wednesday and 'maybe not at all this week' and it appears they haven't found anyone that's seen him very recently.

Oh dear, from the daily mail...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541111/Police-continue-search-Edinburgh-toddler-Mikaeel-Kular.html


A former neighbour claimed the children may have once been left alone at home when Miss Kular’s former husband was due to pick them up for the day.
Patricia Kilpatrick, 72, said: ‘He had come to take the kids on a Sunday but he couldn’t get them from inside the house.
‘She had gone out for the night and hadn’t come home so they were there in the house by themselves. Soon after that the police arrived to sort out everything.’

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Accident that's been covered up?
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Post by Guest 17.01.14 13:36

According to ITV news there's been a potential sighting.
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Post by suep 17.01.14 13:38

admin wrote:According to ITV news there's been a potential sighting.

Sky News are saying it was at 8.30 am yesterday in West Pilton Gardens
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Post by ChippyM 17.01.14 13:39

tasprin wrote:
ChippyM wrote:
sofieellis wrote:It's interesting to watch how this is being reported. Martin Brunt has just said that this is a little boy who may have disappeared before Wednesday night. I wonder why it's so acceptable to assume the mother might be lying in this case, when in Madeleine's case, we are all meant to believe everything her parents tell us (even when they tell us completely contradictory things).


Possibly because she's a single mother, more than one father for her kids, a beauty therapist (ie not particularly educated). She is not a middle class doctor married to consultant surgeon.  Oh and she is not so well connected.

  People judge working class single mothers, I hope it is unfounded in this case.

Her mother is a doctor (retired):

Mikaeel’s grandmother, retired doctor Harjinder Kular, joined the rest of the family in Edinburgh as the search continued
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mikaeel-kular-missing-distraught-mum-3030790

The grandmother maybe but the mother is a single beauty therapist, 4 kids 2 fathers, people are going to be judgmental about that
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Post by Otium 17.01.14 14:07

I understand that the Police have spoken to or traced all key members of Mikaeel's family including his father but I wonder why he hasn't been named yet?

The father of the first 3 siblings has been identified in a Daily Express article in which he was quoted saying the following;

Ms Kular’s estranged husband Omotoso Adekoa, whom she married in 2004 but separated from five years later, told of his shock.
The 35-year-old taxi driver said: “I just heard about Mikaeel. I’ve been trying to call Rosdeep on the phone but she’s not answered.
“I saw my kids at the weekend, but I didn’t see Mikaeel. He’s a lovely boy. He’s very shy. Of course I’m worried about him.”


As others have said on here already, the police really need to establish an independent witness who was last to see Mikaeel before he was reported missing and fast. They may have already obtained this key information and are not sharing that information just yet because of course the focus right now is finding this poor little boy.
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Post by Daisy 17.01.14 14:34

I don't believe this sighting is of Mickaeel. it doesn't make sense.


Snipped: There was a "potential sighting" of a child matching the description of Mikaeel Kular at West Pilton Gardens, Edinburgh, yesterday morning at around 8.30am, Police Scotland have said.


Superintendent Liz McAinsh said the young boy matches their description, but he was wearing a cap or hat.


We can confirm from CCTV that the child indeed was running down as described as 8.30 yesterday morning, but we cannot identify the child from the CCTV images that we have.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/mikaeel-kular-police-deeply-concerned-after-search-through-the-night-for-missing-edinburgh-boy-9066118.html

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Post by Tony Bennett 17.01.14 14:43

Otium wrote:I understand that the Police have spoken to or traced all key members of Mikaeel's family including his father but I wonder why he hasn't been named yet?

The father of the first 3 siblings has been identified in a Daily Express article in which he was quoted saying the following;

Ms Kular’s estranged husband Omotoso Adekoa, whom she married in 2004 but separated from five years later,

Er, just a moment.

'Didn't see Mikaeel' at the weekend?

Why didn't the father of the other siblings ask where he was and find out?

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Post by Upsy Daisy 17.01.14 14:49

That jumped out at me too. Where was he at weekend then? Have the other kids been told he is ill in bed and not allowed in to see him and not able to corroborate this story.

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Post by PeterMac 17.01.14 15:13

Daisy wrote:. . /Superintendent Liz McAinsh said the young boy matches their description, but he was wearing a cap or hat.
Just been stated that not only did he not have a hat, he hated wearing one.
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Post by Guest 17.01.14 15:22

they almost get a name right at de, from the mirror;
 
She has sons Tarun, nine, David, seven, and daughter Renuka, five with her Nigerian ex-husband Omotoso Adekunle Adekoya, 35.
She gave birth to Mikaeel and twin sister Ashika in 2010 but no father is named on the birth certificate.
Mr Adekoya lives at a flat nearby. Witnesses said police yesterday raided a property in his street and made an arrest but officers later said it was an unrelated operation.
 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mikaeel-kular-missing-police-deeply-3030051#ixzz2qfWh79IQ 


google did give some links that place a person of this name in that area, from around that age.
 

He is not the father of the twins, no father on the records for them so the press can’t find our easily. So that info had to come from the boy’s mother or other family.
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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.14 15:24

Upsy Daisy wrote:That jumped out at me too. Where was he at weekend then? Have the other kids been told he is ill in bed and not allowed in to see him and not able to corroborate this story.

It would appear he came over the weekend to see or collect his children, but Mikaeel is not his child.
Probably the first two older children are his,  Mikaeel and twin sister, and the baby must be of a different dad.
Maybe he came early morning and assumed Mikaeel was in bed.

If there's nothing untoward in the house not asking is not abnormal especially since we dont know how often the twins were present whenever he comes to collect his own kids.

Has Mikaeel's biological dad been traced and questioned ?  It would make sense if Mikaeel's dad has the key to the Apt considering there is only 6-month old baby in the house that presumably must belong to the later partner.
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Post by Daisy 17.01.14 15:40

aiyoyo wrote:
It would appear he came over the weekend to see or collect his children, but Mikaeel is not his child.
Probably the first two older children are his,  Mikaeel and twin sister, and the baby must be of a different dad.
Maybe he came early morning and assumed Mikaeel was in bed.

If there's nothing untoward in the house not asking is not abnormal especially since we dont know how often the twins were present whenever he comes to collect his own kids.

Has Mikaeel's biological dad been traced and questioned ?  It would make sense if Mikaeel's dad has the key to the Apt considering there is only 6-month old baby in the house that presumably must belong to the later partner.
Is there a baby, I thought there were only 5 children? Onehand's post above ^ from the Mirror article states she has 3 older children to one father, then the twins.

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Post by sofieellis 17.01.14 15:44

I read yesterday that there were 5 children, the eldest is 8 and the youngest is a baby, but I saw a photo today, which supposedly shows all the siblings: 3 older children and the twins. So now I'm confused.
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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.14 16:01


"I would stress at the moment we have no indication at all of any criminality. It remains a missing person inquiry”

Supt Liz McAinsh
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Post by ChippyM 17.01.14 16:21

aiyoyo wrote:
Has Mikaeel's biological dad been traced and questioned ?  It would make sense if Mikaeel's dad has the key to the Apt considering there is only 6-month old baby in the house that presumably must belong to the later partner.

According to the DM


Ms McAinsh said she was not aware of any tension in the family that would have caused Mikaeel to run away, adding: 'We have spoken to his father. All of his family have been very, very helpful to the police. .........The superintendent said they had spoken to all 'key' members of the boy's family who are assisting police and said this is a missing person investigation, not a criminal investigation.
Ms McAinsh said: 'There have been no arrests. There have been no formal detentions, but several people are assisting us with our inquiries.

'Those inquiries are continuing.'......
'At this stage we're keeping an open mind, we're following up all lines of inquiry that we have.'

She added: 'I'm not aware of any custody issues at the moment but there's many lines of inquiry being followed and one of them will be to speak to Mikaeel's father.
We're endeavouring to speak with all of the family members, obviously one of whom is Mikaeel's father.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541111/Police-continue-search-Edinburgh-toddler-Mikaeel-Kular.html#ixzz2qfnjHtk3

  Unless those quotes are from different times, it's a bit confusing. I'm thinking maybe they have spoken to the father but they haven't got to the bottom of custody issues yet.

  I suppose it's possible the father could have got members of his family to help and hide the boy if this is some kind of custody battle. That might explain the lack of sightings.
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Post by tiny 17.01.14 16:58

From sky news live updates.

John Moses, a former Royal Military Policeman and detective, tells Sky News the evidence in the case points towards a "professional abduction". Read the full story here:
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Post by russiandoll 17.01.14 17:06

The professional abductor had a key, then, as appears no signs of forced entry.

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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.14 17:06

Good Gawd......Pleeszzzzze "P r   o  f e s   s i o n a  l" Abductor ?

What about  "Professional" burglars?

Since when these buggers are classed as professional ?

They made the crime of abduction sounds like a professional profession, Good Grielf !

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