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Post by Guest 27.10.13 12:55

My complaint to the BBC re The Andrew marr Program:

When discussing the front pages and imprtant stories in todays Sunday newspapers no mention of the report on the front page of the Sunday Times titled "Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years". And neither was the article on page 4 of the paper mentioned. In fact the bottom half of the paper was not even shown. After the BBC Crimewatch program which made a great demonstration that Scotalnd Yard had new evidence to present to the public followed by the release of 2 efits not in the public domain before, surely this report is of great importance to the BBC viewing public. Who are surely wondering why the efits had not been previously released. The program was demonstrating considerable bias by not even mentioning this.


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Post by Okeydokey 27.10.13 12:55

Searcher wrote:So far, BBC tv news at 9 am (BBC2), and review of papers on Andrew Marr, have omitted any reference to Sunday Times Insight article.   They have chortled on about such major issues as the BBC, the US, Prince Charles, the weather - but nerry a word of the stunning revelations today.  I wonder why not.
The media manipulation continues.
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Post by jeanmonroe 27.10.13 12:56

Okeydokey wrote:

"Where Police have played media games in the past, they haven't actively participated in spreading mistruths."
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Tell THAT to the brave families of 'The 96'!
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Post by Tangledweb 27.10.13 12:57



I do worry somewhat how the ST revelations today will affect the McCanns' stated willingness to take part in a reconstruction in Portugal, if they begin to realise that they have been well and truly rumbled.

Then they will have a lot of explaining to do, and look as guilty as hell.  They are backed into a corner, if they go for a reconstruction, then it will expose their timeline for the farce it was, and if they refuse to go - they have to explain why.  
And I think they both (definitely Kate) knew by the time they were on Crimewatch that they'd been rumbled...'come into my parlour, said the spider to the fly'...
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Post by pennylane 27.10.13 12:58

dantezebu wrote:My complaint to the BBC re The Andrew marr Program:

When discussing the front pages and imprtant stories in todays Sunday newspapers no mention of the report on the front page of the Sunday Times titled "Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years". And neither was the article on page 4 of the paper mentioned. In fact the bottom half of the paper was not even shown. After the BBC Crimewatch program which made a great demonstration that Scotalnd Yard had new evidence to present to the public followed by the release of 2 efits not in the public domain before, surely this report is of great importance to the BBC viewing public. Who are surely wondering why the efits had not been previously released. The program was demonstrating considerable bias by not even mentioning this.


It will be intersting to see the reply.....if I even get one.
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Post by Okeydokey 27.10.13 13:00

jeanmonroe wrote:Okeydokey wrote:

"Where Police have played media games in the past, they haven't actively participated in spreading mistruths."
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Tell THAT to the brave families of 'The 96'!
I am talking about where they are actively and honestly seeking to convict guilty persons of course.
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Post by Okeydokey 27.10.13 13:01

dantezebu wrote:My complaint to the BBC re The Andrew marr Program:

When discussing the front pages and imprtant stories in todays Sunday newspapers no mention of the report on the front page of the Sunday Times titled "Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years". And neither was the article on page 4 of the paper mentioned. In fact the bottom half of the paper was not even shown. After the BBC Crimewatch program which made a great demonstration that Scotalnd Yard had new evidence to present to the public followed by the release of 2 efits not in the public domain before, surely this report is of great importance to the BBC viewing public. Who are surely wondering why the efits had not been previously released. The program was demonstrating considerable bias by not even mentioning this.


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Excellent!
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Post by jeanmonroe 27.10.13 13:02

dantezebu wrote:My complaint to the BBC re The Andrew marr Program:

When discussing the front pages and imprtant stories in todays Sunday newspapers no mention of the report on the front page of the Sunday Times titled "Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years". And neither was the article on page 4 of the paper mentioned. In fact the bottom half of the paper was not even shown. After the BBC Crimewatch program which made a great demonstration that Scotalnd Yard had new evidence to present to the public followed by the release of 2 efits not in the public domain before, surely this report is of great importance to the BBC viewing public. Who are surely wondering why the efits had not been previously released. The program was demonstrating considerable bias by not even mentioning this.


It will be intersting to see the reply.....if I even get one.
Which you won't!

The BBC 'knew' all about the 'gossip and rumours' about their 'star' Savile and did NOTHING.

Well, when i say NOTHING, they DID put on a slavering 'tribute' programme about him, even AFTER they 'pulled' a Newsnight 'expose' about him!

The McCanns are the BBC's 'NEW' JS!

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Post by stillsloppingout 27.10.13 13:03

Interesting .

   If the Sun run with this , then it will blow publics perception of the case open  Forget Mirror , Star ,Broadsheet's etc THE SUN IS THE BIBLE 
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The Sun after the Argos catalogue !!   is the most important body of work currently in the English language . It was indeed the SUN that won it .

Murdock has been IMO sitting on this, holding back to use whilst Rebecca Brooks trial is on . [ STARTS TOMORROW ] 

 It will be spun and it will be the usual Form of spinning . Discredit the author . but i am looking forward to the ride . 

 Go on SUN run the story tomorrow ...
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Post by sofieellis 27.10.13 13:05

So their own detectives had very similar ideas to those of Goncalo Amaral, but they were silenced, just like he was.

And money from Madeleine's fund paid for this action - unbelievable. wow
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Post by Okeydokey 27.10.13 13:06

Just throwing this out -

Does anyone think there is any possibility that Brian Kennedy has abandoned them?  Just wondering if this would explain why Exton is now blowing the whistle on Team McCann?
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Okeydokey wrote:Just throwing this out -

Does anyone think there is any possibility that Brian Kennedy has abandoned them?  Just wondering if this would explain why Exton is now blowing the whistle on Team McCann?
My question is, why did Kennedy give financial support to "complete strangers" to begin with?
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Post by susible 27.10.13 13:08

nobodythereeither wrote:
Monty Heck wrote:
susible wrote:
Miraflores wrote:Has anyone any idea why the Sunday Times have broken ranks now? 
Presumably they can't be Carter Rucked if they can prove that what they have printed is true?
Shouldn't think so, SY will be well aware of the deliberate attempt to hide the information.  In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Mc's and Carter Ruck have parted ways by now, if only because I doubt the Mc's will be able to afford them.
Yet despite being aware of the suppression of the e-fits AR, rather than pulling the McCs in for some detailed questioning, went along with the CW programme.  During which he stated that the e-fits and later abduction timing were new and and indeed revelatory, while knowing that the e-fits had been produced 5 years ago and had been in the hands of the McCs all that time.  The fact that what may have been vital evidence was kept back for 5 years and why that was done do not appear to have any significance for AR.  He seems to have accepted this unquestioningly and simply moved the timescale forward while ruling out the JT sighting, so feverishly promoted by the Team.  Meanwhile no-one has anything to say about the loss of this cherished sighting, when the fact they have been going up a blind alley on the strength of that testimony for 6+ years with a child still missing, is of major significance.  The way SY have handled this is frankly disturbing.
Sorry, I disagree.

SY have to get hard evidence, and they have to do whatever they have to do to get it, which probably includes keeping the McCanns sweet to some extent.

And carefully wording statements (as have the Portuguese police) to make it look as if they are following the abduction theory.

I do worry somewhat how the ST revelations today will affect the McCanns' stated willingness to take part in a reconstruction in Portugal, if they begin to realise that they have been well and truly rumbled.

What will they do now?

And why have none of the other papers taken this up, at least online?
Agree Nobodythereither...AR can question them til the cows come home and all the Mc's have to do is deny they had any involvement.  The fact that they buried a sighting is evidence of nothing, it just would not stand up in court and then the opportunity would be lost forever.  No there's still a lot of hard work to be done on the investigation side by both SY and the PJ and I do believe that they are working together and I still have faith that they will solve it.

I think the Mc's been hamstrung into the reconstruction now though, because if they back out combined with the public knowledge that they hid important information from the police, then AR might not need to use the softly softly approach anymore because the public will be baying for justice.

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Post by Bishop Brennan 27.10.13 13:10

sofieellis wrote:So their own detectives had very similar ideas to those of Goncalo Amaral, but they were silenced, just like he was.

And money from Madeleine's fund paid for this action - unbelievable. wow
Presumably both were "unhelpful"...     

In fact, so far all investigators have come to similar conclusions...  perhaps SY will also...
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Post by Monty Heck 27.10.13 13:14

nobodythereeither wrote:
Monty Heck wrote:
susible wrote:
Miraflores wrote:Has anyone any idea why the Sunday Times have broken ranks now? 
Presumably they can't be Carter Rucked if they can prove that what they have printed is true?
Shouldn't think so, SY will be well aware of the deliberate attempt to hide the information.  In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Mc's and Carter Ruck have parted ways by now, if only because I doubt the Mc's will be able to afford them.
Yet despite being aware of the suppression of the e-fits AR, rather than pulling the McCs in for some detailed questioning, went along with the CW programme.  During which he stated that the e-fits and later abduction timing were new and and indeed revelatory, while knowing that the e-fits had been produced 5 years ago and had been in the hands of the McCs all that time.  The fact that what may have been vital evidence was kept back for 5 years and why that was done do not appear to have any significance for AR.  He seems to have accepted this unquestioningly and simply moved the timescale forward while ruling out the JT sighting, so feverishly promoted by the Team.  Meanwhile no-one has anything to say about the loss of this cherished sighting, when the fact they have been going up a blind alley on the strength of that testimony for 6+ years with a child still missing, is of major significance.  The way SY have handled this is frankly disturbing.
Sorry, I disagree.

SY have to get hard evidence, and they have to do whatever they have to do to get it, which probably includes keeping the McCanns sweet to some extent.

And carefully wording statements (as have the Portuguese police) to make it look as if they are following the abduction theory.

I do worry somewhat how the ST revelations today will affect the McCanns' stated willingness to take part in a reconstruction in Portugal, if they begin to realise that they have been well and truly rumbled.

What will they do now?

And why have none of the other papers taken this up, at least online
I do hope you are right, but do wonder whether SY felt they could simply gloss over the fact that the e-fits had been languishing in McC hands for 5 years because they thought this would never be contradicted.  The Times article exposing the extent of SY's cosiness with the McC was surely unforseen?  Whether  SY's apparent support is all some kind of elaborate ruse remains to be seen but questioning people living within their jurisdiction seems an easier way of getting to the truth, rather than trailing around Europe with the McCsome on a roadshow of rather dubious merit.
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Post by pennylane 27.10.13 13:20

susible wrote:
nobodythereeither wrote:
Monty Heck wrote:
susible wrote:
Miraflores wrote:Has anyone any idea why the Sunday Times have broken ranks now? 
Presumably they can't be Carter Rucked if they can prove that what they have printed is true?
Shouldn't think so, SY will be well aware of the deliberate attempt to hide the information.  In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Mc's and Carter Ruck have parted ways by now, if only because I doubt the Mc's will be able to afford them.
Yet despite being aware of the suppression of the e-fits AR, rather than pulling the McCs in for some detailed questioning, went along with the CW programme.  During which he stated that the e-fits and later abduction timing were new and and indeed revelatory, while knowing that the e-fits had been produced 5 years ago and had been in the hands of the McCs all that time.  The fact that what may have been vital evidence was kept back for 5 years and why that was done do not appear to have any significance for AR.  He seems to have accepted this unquestioningly and simply moved the timescale forward while ruling out the JT sighting, so feverishly promoted by the Team.  Meanwhile no-one has anything to say about the loss of this cherished sighting, when the fact they have been going up a blind alley on the strength of that testimony for 6+ years with a child still missing, is of major significance.  The way SY have handled this is frankly disturbing.
Sorry, I disagree.

SY have to get hard evidence, and they have to do whatever they have to do to get it, which probably includes keeping the McCanns sweet to some extent.

And carefully wording statements (as have the Portuguese police) to make it look as if they are following the abduction theory.

I do worry somewhat how the ST revelations today will affect the McCanns' stated willingness to take part in a reconstruction in Portugal, if they begin to realise that they have been well and truly rumbled.

What will they do now?

And why have none of the other papers taken this up, at least online?
Agree Nobodythereither...AR can question them til the cows come home and all the Mc's have to do is deny they had any involvement.  The fact that they buried a sighting is evidence of nothing, it just would not stand up in court and then the opportunity would be lost forever.  No there's still a lot of hard work to be done on the investigation side by both SY and the PJ and I do believe that they are working together and I still have faith that they will solve it.

I think the Mc's been hamstrung into the reconstruction now though, because if they back out combined with the public knowledge that they hid important information from the police, then AR might not need to use the softly softly approach anymore because the public will be baying for justice.
I imagine there's some revealing phone activity too, and then there's the blood and cadaver dog alerts, and the changes in their version of events, added to that the Smith sighting, the missing sports bag and blanket, and the list goes on.  I think there's a slew of evidence against them, and that's why they've kept up their 24/7 pretense.  Six plus long years of sheer fear and paranoia is what we've been witnessing from Team McCann (imo).
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Monty Heck wrote:
nobodythereeither wrote:
Monty Heck wrote:
susible wrote:
Miraflores wrote:Has anyone any idea why the Sunday Times have broken ranks now? 
Presumably they can't be Carter Rucked if they can prove that what they have printed is true?
Shouldn't think so, SY will be well aware of the deliberate attempt to hide the information.  In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Mc's and Carter Ruck have parted ways by now, if only because I doubt the Mc's will be able to afford them.
Yet despite being aware of the suppression of the e-fits AR, rather than pulling the McCs in for some detailed questioning, went along with the CW programme.  During which he stated that the e-fits and later abduction timing were new and and indeed revelatory, while knowing that the e-fits had been produced 5 years ago and had been in the hands of the McCs all that time.  The fact that what may have been vital evidence was kept back for 5 years and why that was done do not appear to have any significance for AR.  He seems to have accepted this unquestioningly and simply moved the timescale forward while ruling out the JT sighting, so feverishly promoted by the Team.  Meanwhile no-one has anything to say about the loss of this cherished sighting, when the fact they have been going up a blind alley on the strength of that testimony for 6+ years with a child still missing, is of major significance.  The way SY have handled this is frankly disturbing.
Sorry, I disagree.

SY have to get hard evidence, and they have to do whatever they have to do to get it, which probably includes keeping the McCanns sweet to some extent.

And carefully wording statements (as have the Portuguese police) to make it look as if they are following the abduction theory.

I do worry somewhat how the ST revelations today will affect the McCanns' stated willingness to take part in a reconstruction in Portugal, if they begin to realise that they have been well and truly rumbled.

What will they do now?

And why have none of the other papers taken this up, at least online
I do hope you are right, but do wonder whether SY felt they could simply gloss over the fact that the e-fits had been languishing in McC hands for 5 years because they thought this would never be contradicted.  The Times article exposing the extent of SY's cosiness with the McC was surely unforseen?  Whether  SY's apparent support is all some kind of elaborate ruse remains to be seen but questioning people living within their jurisdiction seems an easier way of getting to the truth, rather than trailing around Europe with the McCsome on a roadshow of rather dubious merit.
I don't think they were trying to gloss over the sighting or else they would just have continued to promote Tannerman and ignored Smithman altogether and I do believe that unless SY try to make the most of a "good relationship" with the Mc's then the shutters will come down and they wouldn't get any further with the investigation.  Okay so I know that there are many people who are shouting "well just bring them in, turn the screws and make them talk"  But it's really not quite so simple, it is a very complex case requiring a huge amount of proof to ever get it to court and secure a conviction and leading the Mc's and their friends right into it is possibly the best way to go.  In fact this approach may well get other tapas members to take fright and start blabbing...due to the absence of the Paynes and Diane Webster from the CW reconstruction that may well already have happened.

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Post by PeterMac 27.10.13 13:25

ST article now safely in the hand of Gonçalo Amaral and his team.
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Post by KellyLennon 27.10.13 13:29

Wondering how this development fits in with Clarence Mitchell proclaiming that 
"they have been 'utterly honest and utterly open' that anything the police investigation have found or may find, the McCanns will have an "innocent explanation" for!"


come on then lets hear it ....

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Post by mouse 27.10.13 13:31

susible wrote:
nobodythereeither wrote:
Monty Heck wrote:
susible wrote:
Miraflores wrote:Has anyone any idea why the Sunday Times have broken ranks now? 
Presumably they can't be Carter Rucked if they can prove that what they have printed is true?
Shouldn't think so, SY will be well aware of the deliberate attempt to hide the information.  In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Mc's and Carter Ruck have parted ways by now, if only because I doubt the Mc's will be able to afford them.
Yet despite being aware of the suppression of the e-fits AR, rather than pulling the McCs in for some detailed questioning, went along with the CW programme.  During which he stated that the e-fits and later abduction timing were new and and indeed revelatory, while knowing that the e-fits had been produced 5 years ago and had been in the hands of the McCs all that time.  The fact that what may have been vital evidence was kept back for 5 years and why that was done do not appear to have any significance for AR.  He seems to have accepted this unquestioningly and simply moved the timescale forward while ruling out the JT sighting, so feverishly promoted by the Team.  Meanwhile no-one has anything to say about the loss of this cherished sighting, when the fact they have been going up a blind alley on the strength of that testimony for 6+ years with a child still missing, is of major significance.  The way SY have handled this is frankly disturbing.
Sorry, I disagree.

SY have to get hard evidence, and they have to do whatever they have to do to get it, which probably includes keeping the McCanns sweet to some extent.

And carefully wording statements (as have the Portuguese police) to make it look as if they are following the abduction theory.

I do worry somewhat how the ST revelations today will affect the McCanns' stated willingness to take part in a reconstruction in Portugal, if they begin to realise that they have been well and truly rumbled.

What will they do now?

And why have none of the other papers taken this up, at least online?
Agree Nobodythereither...AR can question them til the cows come home and all the Mc's have to do is deny they had any involvement.  The fact that they buried a sighting is evidence of nothing, it just would not stand up in court and then the opportunity would be lost forever.  No there's still a lot of hard work to be done on the investigation side by both SY and the PJ and I do believe that they are working together and I still have faith that they will solve it.

I think the Mc's been hamstrung into the reconstruction now though, because if they back out combined with the public knowledge that they hid important information from the police, then AR might not need to use the softly softly approach anymore because the public will be baying for justice.
And I'd just like to agree with Monty again, and disagree with the poster/s above who obviously decided my support for Monty's opinion should just be edited out of this little convo. AR - was too, toor friendly with the MC's to be taken seriously....When are they packing for Germany?
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Post by tasprin 27.10.13 13:31

I hope the rest of the media run with this story. For five years the McCanns have deliberately withheld crucial information and employed lawyers to enforce a ban to prevent the e-fits being made public, though Scotland Yard deem them crucial to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.


In 2008 the McCanns accused Portuguese police of witholding e-fits - Clarence Mitchell called it "tragic" and a "disgrace"

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Kate and Gerry McCann's outrage at police for withholding potentially crucial evidence

5 Aug 2008

Madeleine's McCann's parents accused Portuguese detectives of withholding potentially crucial evidence from them today after police files revealed a series of previously secret leads.

Madeleine's McCann's parents accused Portuguese detectives of withholding potentially crucial evidence from them today after police files revealed a series of previously secret leads. Newly-released official documents showed officers put together e-fits of possible suspects, collected CCTV images and recorded sightings that were never made public or passed to Kate and Gerry McCann. The massive dossier of evidence included a report that a little girl calling herself "Maddy" and claiming to have been taken from her mother - was seen in Amsterdam just after Madeleine vanished. The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said it was "tragic" this kind of information should only be released now. "It is harrowing to hear a child saying that. If it was Madeleine, it was a disgrace that it was not passed on," he said. "We need to know what happened with this. This is exactly the sort of primary information that we need to know if it was followed up properly by the police. "If that hasn't been done, that is exactly the kind of information that the private investigators are going to follow up."
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Post by kitchen 27.10.13 13:34

There are now 16 comments attached to the online article. All
Sensible and most pointing out that this has resulted in a very expensive review/investigation when this information, paid for out of the fund , was already known. Will try to work out if I can copy from behind the paywall.
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Post by Lance De Boils 27.10.13 13:34

I say. This article is certainly one for the "Thread of HOPE."  smilie 


Now, remind me... who caused most damage to the "search" for Madeleine? Hmmm....?
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Post by ProfessorPPlum 27.10.13 13:36

Okeydokey wrote:
worriedmum wrote:oh go on 
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And this is what you look like wearing handcuffs !!
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Post by pennylane 27.10.13 13:37

KellyLennon wrote:Wondering how this development fits in with Clarence Mitchell proclaiming that 
"they have been 'utterly honest and utterly open' that anything the police investigation have found or may find, the McCanns will have an "innocent explanation" for!"


come on then lets hear it ....
I think Clarence has spun them into oblivion now!
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Post by worriedmum 27.10.13 13:37

Okeydokey wrote:One possible connection I made...Coulson and Brooks (ex Murdoch employees) are up for trial on Monday. If one thing could be done to help them in a way that didn't compromise judicial rules, it would be to undermine the testimony of those who appeared for the suppression of the free media at Leveson. The McCanns were of course prominent among those seeking to muzzle the press.
good post
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Post by pennylane 27.10.13 13:40

ProfessorPPlum wrote:
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worriedmum wrote:oh go on 
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Post by susible 27.10.13 13:41

mouse wrote:
susible wrote:
nobodythereeither wrote:
Monty Heck wrote:
susible wrote:
Miraflores wrote:Has anyone any idea why the Sunday Times have broken ranks now? 
Presumably they can't be Carter Rucked if they can prove that what they have printed is true?
Shouldn't think so, SY will be well aware of the deliberate attempt to hide the information.  In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Mc's and Carter Ruck have parted ways by now, if only because I doubt the Mc's will be able to afford them.
Yet despite being aware of the suppression of the e-fits AR, rather than pulling the McCs in for some detailed questioning, went along with the CW programme.  During which he stated that the e-fits and later abduction timing were new and and indeed revelatory, while knowing that the e-fits had been produced 5 years ago and had been in the hands of the McCs all that time.  The fact that what may have been vital evidence was kept back for 5 years and why that was done do not appear to have any significance for AR.  He seems to have accepted this unquestioningly and simply moved the timescale forward while ruling out the JT sighting, so feverishly promoted by the Team.  Meanwhile no-one has anything to say about the loss of this cherished sighting, when the fact they have been going up a blind alley on the strength of that testimony for 6+ years with a child still missing, is of major significance.  The way SY have handled this is frankly disturbing.
Sorry, I disagree.

SY have to get hard evidence, and they have to do whatever they have to do to get it, which probably includes keeping the McCanns sweet to some extent.

And carefully wording statements (as have the Portuguese police) to make it look as if they are following the abduction theory.

I do worry somewhat how the ST revelations today will affect the McCanns' stated willingness to take part in a reconstruction in Portugal, if they begin to realise that they have been well and truly rumbled.

What will they do now?

And why have none of the other papers taken this up, at least online?
Agree Nobodythereither...AR can question them til the cows come home and all the Mc's have to do is deny they had any involvement.  The fact that they buried a sighting is evidence of nothing, it just would not stand up in court and then the opportunity would be lost forever.  No there's still a lot of hard work to be done on the investigation side by both SY and the PJ and I do believe that they are working together and I still have faith that they will solve it.

I think the Mc's been hamstrung into the reconstruction now though, because if they back out combined with the public knowledge that they hid important information from the police, then AR might not need to use the softly softly approach anymore because the public will be baying for justice.
And I'd just like to agree with Monty again, and disagree with the poster/s above who obviously decided my support for Monty's opinion should just be edited out of this little convo. AR - was too, toor friendly with the MC's to be taken seriously....When are they packing for Germany?
??? I didn't edit out your response, I just quoted the conversation thread that I had been quoted in...Don't be so paranoid..

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Post by suzyjohnson 27.10.13 13:46

Monty Heck wrote:'....... despite being aware of the suppression of the e-fits AR, rather than pulling the McCs in for some detailed questioning, went along with the CW programme.  During which he stated that the e-fits and later abduction timing were new and and indeed revelatory, while knowing that the e-fits had been produced 5 years ago and had been in the hands of the McCs all that time.  The fact that what may have been vital evidence was kept back for 5 years and why that was done do not appear to have any significance for AR.  He seems to have accepted this unquestioningly and simply moved the timescale forward while ruling out the JT sighting, so feverishly promoted by the Team.  Meanwhile no-one has anything to say about the loss of this cherished sighting, when the fact they have been going up a blind alley on the strength of that testimony for 6+ years with a child still missing, is of major significance.  The way SY have handled this is frankly disturbing.'
I don't think so Monty Heck. I think SY have just been pulling together whatever evidence they can find, hence the Crimewatch programme, and the tour of Europe. SY want to re publicise MM's case and find new witnesses,

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