HALL OF SHAME - A record of tweets

I just read this tweet by Yours Truly on McCann hashtag:

@basilandmanuel flyer
@TheLargeToad NO, you are wrong. Cadavar dog alerts to blood #McCann


Now let's educate the woman, shall we?

Olfaction, the act or process of smelling, is the primary special sense possessed by dogs. A dog’s sense of smell is a thousand times more sensitive than humans. Dogs have more than 220 million olfactory receptors in their nose, whereas humans only have 5 million. Specially trained dogs have been used to locate forensic cadaver material and disaster survivors. Highly trained dogs assisted the emergency services in the aftermath of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre on September 11th, 2001. Cadaver dogs need to undergo rigorous training. Prior to beginning a specialised training programme, these dogs need to have basic obedience skills. The cue a dog uses to indicate forensic material depends on the trainer. Some dogs are trained to bark to indicate cadavers, whereas others scratch at the area in the crime scene. Dogs are given a verbal cue to start searching, and directional cues such as “check it out” to indicate an area requiring a more detailed search. A variety of breeds can be trained to hunt forensic material. Bloodhounds, springer spaniels and labradors are commonly used. Trained cadaver dogs have the ability to detect decomposing bodies beneath running water, for example when a corpse is weighted down, and placed at the bottom of a river. - See more at: http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2008/12/cadaver-dogs-how-reliable-are-they-at-detecting-death/#sthash.gJqghq7Y.dpuf

http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2008/12/cadaver-dogs-how-reliable-are-they-at-detecting-death/

sallypelt wrote:I just read this tweet by Yours Truly on McCann hashtag:

@basilandmanuel flyer
@TheLargeToad NO, you are wrong. Cadavar dog alerts to blood #McCann


Now let's educate the woman, shall we?

Olfaction, the act or process of smelling, is the primary special sense possessed by dogs. A dog’s sense of smell is a thousand times more sensitive than humans. Dogs have more than 220 million olfactory receptors in their nose, whereas humans only have 5 million. Specially trained dogs have been used to locate forensic cadaver material and disaster survivors. Highly trained dogs assisted the emergency services in the aftermath of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre on September 11th, 2001. Cadaver dogs need to undergo rigorous training. Prior to beginning a specialised training programme, these dogs need to have basic obedience skills. The cue a dog uses to indicate forensic material depends on the trainer. Some dogs are trained to bark to indicate cadavers, whereas others scratch at the area in the crime scene. Dogs are given a verbal cue to start searching, and directional cues such as “check it out” to indicate an area requiring a more detailed search. A variety of breeds can be trained to hunt forensic material. Bloodhounds, springer spaniels and labradors are commonly used. Trained cadaver dogs have the ability to detect decomposing bodies beneath running water, for example when a corpse is weighted down, and placed at the bottom of a river. - See more at: http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2008/12/cadaver-dogs-how-reliable-are-they-at-detecting-death/#sthash.gJqghq7Y.dpuf

http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2008/12/cadaver-dogs-how-reliable-are-they-at-detecting-death/

I remember the news reports when April Jones went missing and the police were using special dogs to search under water in the fast flowing stream near where April lived as a woman saw a man throwing a black plastic bag into the stream.  It was then said that dogs can detect cadaver odours under water. That always stuck in my mind as to how intelligent and special these dogs are, besides being able to detect drugs, bank notes, explosive, fire arms, health issues in certain people, etc etc.

There was a TV programme on a few nights ago about dogs and it said that the noses of dogs are 100,000 times more sensitive than a human nose!!

Newintown wrote:

sallypelt wrote:I just read this tweet by Yours Truly on McCann hashtag:

@basilandmanuel flyer
@TheLargeToad NO, you are wrong. Cadavar dog alerts to blood #McCann


Now let's educate the woman, shall we?

Olfaction, the act or process of smelling, is the primary special sense possessed by dogs. A dog’s sense of smell is a thousand times more sensitive than humans. Dogs have more than 220 million olfactory receptors in their nose, whereas humans only have 5 million. Specially trained dogs have been used to locate forensic cadaver material and disaster survivors. Highly trained dogs assisted the emergency services in the aftermath of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre on September 11th, 2001. Cadaver dogs need to undergo rigorous training. Prior to beginning a specialised training programme, these dogs need to have basic obedience skills. The cue a dog uses to indicate forensic material depends on the trainer. Some dogs are trained to bark to indicate cadavers, whereas others scratch at the area in the crime scene. Dogs are given a verbal cue to start searching, and directional cues such as “check it out” to indicate an area requiring a more detailed search. A variety of breeds can be trained to hunt forensic material. Bloodhounds, springer spaniels and labradors are commonly used. Trained cadaver dogs have the ability to detect decomposing bodies beneath running water, for example when a corpse is weighted down, and placed at the bottom of a river. - See more at: http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2008/12/cadaver-dogs-how-reliable-are-they-at-detecting-death/#sthash.gJqghq7Y.dpuf

http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2008/12/cadaver-dogs-how-reliable-are-they-at-detecting-death/

I remember the news reports when April Jones went missing and the police were using special dogs to search under water in the fast flowing stream near where April went missing as a woman saw a man throwing a black plastic bag into the stream.  It was then said that dogs can detect cadaver odours under water. That always stuck in my mind as to how intelligent and special these dogs are.

There was a TV programme on a few nights ago about dogs and it said that the noses of dogs are 100,000 times more sensitive than a human nose!!

The "pros" have been trying to browbeat people into believing that the dogs got it wrong, but maybe they would like a little reminder:

Madeleine: McCanns consult American lawyers over ‘cadaver dog’ evidence Daily Mail Last updated at 18:07 16 September 2007 (Link to original article here) Kate and Gerry McCann’s legal team have consulted the lawyers of an American man accused of murdering his estranged wife in a case where cadaver dog evidence was key, a source said today. Two British sniffer dogs, one capable of detecting blood and human remains, were brought to Portugal in early August. The cadaver dog picked up a “scent of death” on everything from Mrs McCann’s clothes to missing Madeleine’s favourite soft toy Cuddle Cat, according to reports. During police interviews the McCanns were shown a video of the animal “going crazy” when it approached their Renault Scenic hire car, newspapers have claimed. Leaked reports from the investigation have suggested Madeleine’s parents could have accidentally killed her and then disposed of her body using the car. Although they do not know the full details of Portuguese prosecutors’ case against them, the McCanns are concerned it may rest on the dog’s reaction. They want to highlight the judge’s dismissal of cadaver dog evidence in the high-profile Eugene Zapata murder trial in Madison, Wisconsin. The couple’s lawyers have already contacted Zapata’s defence team, who are now sending their large file on the matter to Britain. Zapata’s estranged wife, flight instructor Jeanette Zapata, was 37 when she vanished on October 11 1976 after seeing her three children off to school. Her body has never been found. Detectives suspected Zapata of involvement in her disappearance but did not charge him because of a lack of evidence. Police decided to conduct new searches using cadaver dogs, a new investigative technique, when an old friend of Mrs Zapata contacted them about the case in 2004. Zapata, 68, was charged with first-degree murder last year after the dogs indicated they sniffed human remains in a small basement “crawl space” at the former family home in Madison and other properties linked to him. But Dane County Judge Patrick Fiedler ruled last month that the evidence that led to the charge could not be put before the jury. He said the dogs were too unreliable in detecting the odour of remains and noted that no remains were actually found. The judge agreed with an analysis of the three dogs’ track record by Zapata’s defence team that found they were incorrect 78 per cent, 71 per cent and 62 per cent of the time. According to the Wisconsin State Journal, Mr Fiedler told the court: “The state has failed to convince me that it’s any more reliable than the flip of a coin.” Zapata denies murder, and the jury in the case went out on Friday to start considering its verdict. A source close to the McCanns’ solicitors said: “The legal team are in touch with the lawyers who represented the defendant in the case. “The court papers, giving the legal submissions, are on their way to the McCann team for consideration. “At the moment there are no formal charges and therefore there is no formal allegation against which the McCann team can work. We are having to work a little bit in the dark. “But given that we understand the central plank of what the police are alleging involves sniffer dogs – albeit British ones which are said to be particularly good – this is important and relevant, and will be raised with the police and brought to the judge’s attention.” Unfortunately for Kate and Gerry, Mr Zapata eventually plead guilty to his wife’s murder on February 19th, 2008. Zapata Enters Guilty Plea In Connection With Missing Wife’s Death Former Madison Resident Plead To Reduced Charge of Homicide By Reckless Conduct (Link to original article here) UPDATED: 7:18 am CST February 19, 2008 MADISON, Wis. — Eugene Zapata entered a guilty plea on Monday to a reduced charge of homicide by reckless conduct in connection to his wife’s disappearance 30 years ago and was sentenced to time behind bars. Appearing in Dane County Circuit Court on Monday, Zapata was sentenced to five years in prison after entering the guilty plea. Zapata, 69, pleaded guilty as part of a deal with prosecutors. The sentence was the maximum sentence for the charge, WISC-TV reported Old sentencing rules likely mean that Zapata will spend just more than three years in prison, but the judge and prosecutors supported the deal, saying that it would give family and friends closure and let them heal, WISC-TV reported. Dane County Judge Patrick Fiedler, who sentenced Zapata, said that the important thing is everyone now knows what happened to Zapata’s wife, Jeanette. Dane County District Attorney Brian Blanchard said that the plea deal gives closure to Jeanette Zapata’s loved ones. “Part of what happened after Madison police took over a cold case from nowhere to today is the ability now to have the family and friends of Jeanette Zapata know exactly what happened to her.” Eugene Zapata was to have faced a second trial late next month. A former Madison resident, he was tried last year for the disappearance and presumed death of his wife in 1976. Her body was never found. He had faced first-degree murder charges. A jury deadlocked on a verdict, and a second trial was scheduled. If convicted on that charge, Zapata would have faced life in prison. A second trial seemed less likely after reports surfaced earlier this month that a plea deal had been struck. As part of the agreement with prosecutors, Zapata had to tell authorities how he killed his wife and where her body was hidden, WISC-TV reported. During Monday’s proceedings, Dane County chief prosecutor Bob Kaiser asked the court to accept an amended charge of homicide by reckless conduct. Kaiser earlier told the court that the deal with Zapata includes a statement to police about why Zapata went to her house, how and why he killed her and what he did with her. Kaiser said that Zapata confessed to police and that he believes Zapata’s statement will be truthful and complete. Prosecutors said that Zapata told police that he went to his wife’s house in 1976, had an argument and “snapped.” He told them that he grabbed a metal draftman’s tool and hit her in the head multiple times. He said that she then dropped to ground and he strangled her. He apparently told investigators that he “strangled Jeanette Zapata manually until his hands hurt.” He also wrapped a cord around her neck. Zapata said that he wrapped her body in a tent and drove it to an area near Highway 151 and Reiner Road, where he hid it in some underbrush. He transferred her remains a short time later to some Juneau County land that he owed. There, he buried her body — which remained there for 24 years — before moving her remains to a Sun Prairie storage locker, where it was eventually cut into pieces and later disposed of at a Mauston landfill. He moved the body from the Juneau County because he planned to sell the land. Linda Zapata, the youngest of Eugene and Jeanette Zapata’s three children, gave a statement in court. She said that she was torn over testifying against her father earlier, but she’s glad that he agreed to the plea deal. She said his confession is “a gift.” “By confessing to Mom’s murder, you have given me and others a precious gift, a chance to grieve, mourn and heal,” she said. “Mom deserved no less than that Mom deserved the truth about what really happened that morning, and I thank you for finally giving her that.” She added that she still loves her father and forgives him, although she doesn’t condone what he did. Blanchard said because Jeanette Zapata’s body was dumped in numerous Dumpsters at the landfill, there is no way to recover her remains. Eugene Zapata declined comment in the court. He was later taken away in handcuffs after his sentence was imposed. Kaiser said that he thinks the agreement is the best possible option for “truth and justice.” Likewise, Blanchard called the resolution to this case a huge achievement for justice. Mrs McCann attends the death of six of her patients, prior to her holiday Extract from Scapegoats? McCanns reject ‘compelling’ new police evidence Belfast Telegraph 10th September 2007 Forensic experts have also warned that evidence obtained from the use of cadaver-smelling dogs is open to challenge. According to the McCann family, detectives asked why a British-trained dog detected traces of a corpse on Mrs McCann’s clothing and on a Bible in the apartment. Mrs McCann, a GP, has said she was present at six deaths before her holiday. Despite it being said that dogs’ noses are anywhere between 1,000 and 10,000 times more effective than humans’, and despite the dogs’ training to detect traces of everything from drugs to cancers, experts warn that there are still difficulties using evidence uncovered by dogs. I have worked as a junior doctor in general practice, and my sister is a GP. Doctors are called to certify death on occasions. Typically the patient is an elderly person in a residential or nursing home. Thankfully this does not occur very often. A doctor has to check for a heartbeat, respiration, and whether the pupils react when a pen torch is shone into the eyes. I find the claim that Mrs McCann attended six deaths, shortly before the her holiday, difficult to believe. People tend to die on hospital wards, and when a patient in a care home becomes unwell, they tend to get admitted to a hospital. Why the scent of death was on Mrs McCann’s Bible also raises suspicions. Are we supposed to believe she took this Bible with her when she was at work? Was she reading her unfortunate patients their Last Rites? Unbelievable. - See more at: http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2008/12/cadaver-dogs-how-reliable-are-they-at-detecting-death/#sthash.r3hMwH0k.dpuf

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Don't know how to reproduce the text here, but that infmous 'pro' @basilandmanuel (who was recently accused of being Amy Tierney - and I don't know if there's any truth at all in that) confesses to indulging in 'stranger sex'.

Dee Coy wrote:https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=831450153585693&set=gm.862087663815917&type=1&theater

Don't know how to reproduce the text here, but that infaous 'pro' @basilandmanuel (who was recently accused of being Amy Tierney - and I don't know if there's any truth at all in that) confesses to indulging in 'stranger sex'.

Some of the troublemakers who were on here but who have now thankfully gone to another place also are involved in unseemly activities.

One, who shall remain nameless in accordance with 'netiquette', is the producer of some of the most violent and brutal video games ever produced

Tony Bennett wrote:

Dee Coy wrote:https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=831450153585693&set=gm.862087663815917&type=1&theater

Don't know how to reproduce the text here, but that infaous 'pro' @basilandmanuel (who was recently accused of being Amy Tierney - and I don't know if there's any truth at all in that) confesses to indulging in 'stranger sex'.

Some of the troublemakers who were on here but who have now thankfully gone to another place also are involved in unseemly activities.

One, who shall remain nameless in accordance with 'netiquette', is the producer of some of the most violent and brutal video games ever produced

@basilandmanuel attacked me immediately I showed an interest in McCann on Twitter. It was relentless belittling and intimidation.

I am bumping this, as it may be of interest to those who want to see some of the tweets from some of the so-called "pros"

frost wrote:Lord Sugar ‏

[ltr]@Lord_Sugar[/ltr]

  24 mins24 minutes ago
Point is Brenda Leyland was wrong to troll McCanns,if she took her own life it shows what pressure from media can do to someone who is weak.

Lord Sugar, what exactly did she do wrong?

Exact details, not some lazy general tabloid term.

just to balance things on looking at his earlier tweets he did post the folowing 

Lord Sugar ‏[ltr]@Lord_Sugar[/ltr]  39m39 minutes ago
If the McCanns are not on Twitter, question must be asked who pointed out to media the so called trolling of the McCanns by Brenda Leyland

frost wrote:just to balance things on looking at his earlier tweets he did post the folowing 

Lord Sugar ‏

[ltr]@Lord_Sugar[/ltr]

  39m39 minutes ago
If the McCanns are not on Twitter, question must be asked who pointed out to media the so called trolling of the McCanns by Brenda Leyland

Is that Lord Sugar offering an opinion and asking questions on Twitter?

Surely he's trolling the media?

Irony... sweet irony.

frost wrote:Jencalo_Amoral ‏

[ltr]@TheJENReturns[/ltr]

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If Scotland Yard wish to speak to me I am more than happy to have them call and discuss the abuse the #McCann s have endured and by whom.
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Normally if you have evidence of a crime you contact the police yourself. That's the way crime reporting works. Don't wait for the old bill to knock on your door to inform that you've been burgled.

Anyway, Gurning will just create another account, the way the old dear works.

frost wrote:Jencalo_Amoral ‏

[ltr]@TheJENReturns[/ltr]

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If Scotland Yard wish to speak to me I am more than happy to have them call and discuss the abuse the #McCann s have endured and by whom.
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Will she be more than happy if the cops decide to call and discuss the abuse that has been levelled at Pro Maddie supporters?

I just saw these tweets from someone with the ID Criminal ex-Cop ™ @_Goncalo_Amaral This isn't Dr G Amaral, so why is it allowed for some troll to use someone else's REAL name to post?


Here are some of the tweets:

Criminal ex-Cop ™ retweeted

Jasmine @alfibab3 · 20 Dec 2012

@_Goncalo_Amaral Its the end of the world tomorrow. Anti #mccann are at a meeting for the last troll event.





Criminal ex-Cop ™ retweeted

Jencalo_Amoral @TheJENReturns · 12 Dec 2012

@alfibab3 @hadashocker Doesn't he realise all antis want is paedo /dogs dont lie/body in freezer/substitute child absolute bollox #McCann


Criminal ex-Cop ™ @_Goncalo_Amaral · 26 Nov 2012

It matters not vile - convicted ex-Cop supporting - anti #McCann Trolls don't like the abduction evidence re M McCann

Criminal ex-Cop ™ @_Goncalo_Amaral · 26 Nov 2012

Anti #McCann Trolls have spent 5yrs+ spewing lies, distortions and myths on behalf of CRIMINAL ex-Cop & achieved NOTHING but greater madness

Criminal ex-Cop ™ @_Goncalo_Amaral · 21 Nov 2012

April 2012 - Panorama: G Amaral 'it is our fault.. our justice system.. our Attorney General.. allowed investigation to be shelved' #McCann


Criminal ex-Cop ™ @_Goncalo_Amaral · 21 Nov 2012

Disgraced Ex-Cop In Madeleine #McCann Case the convicted perjurer, Goncalo Amaral admits he made many mistakes in case http://goo.gl/j39Zb


Criminal ex-Cop ™ @_Goncalo_Amaral · 19 Nov 2012

Criminal ex-Cop G Amaral (kicked-off Madeleine #McCann case) LOST spurious libel case against torture victims Lawyer http://bit.ly/OVjcXr



The above are just some of the tweets made in the name of G Amaral. If this isn't a criminal act, I don't know what is. The tweeter is even using his photograph.






https://twitter.com/_Goncalo_Amaral?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fjillhavern.forumotion.net%2Fportal&query=%23mccann&tw_i=519447127387537409&tw_p=embeddedtimeline&tw_w=509642023163273216

Well if I ever entertain the thought of opening a Twitter account I will come back here and remind myself of why it's a bad idea.  Disgusting, vile, evil, personal attacks.

Why not have this thread a a "sticky" page for a while, so that newcomers can immediately see what a vile bunch the McCann believers are?

Probably a lot of them who do not post are merely naive or ignorant of the facts, maybe the vile ones who do post in that vulgar and attacking way, are the stupid few who are said to be paid 'shills'. I don't belong to Twitter because it is not moderated.

Occasionally, I read the new Madeleine Forum, as I have no gripe with any member, either on here, or "over there", as I believe that we are all searching for the same thing, and that is THE TRUTH of what happened to M McCann. I have, on occasion, thought about joining, as there are some members who post on this forum and on the other forum. But after reading a post, a few minutes ago, which is THIS post:

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Hear Hear, that other place truly is a cesspit. I used to cringe at TB's followers and how easily they'd be duped into his warped theories about trolls under the bed".

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I think I will stay put where I am, and remain with just one forum, as I've done for many years. So, folks, I will remain here, in the "cesspit"

sallypelt wrote:Occasionally, I read the new Madeleine Forum, as I have no gripe with any member, either on here, or "over there", as I believe that we are all searching for the same thing, and that is THE TRUTH of what happened to M McCann. I have, on occasion, thought about joining, as there are some members who post on this forum and on the other forum. But after reading a post, a few minutes ago, which is THIS post:

Quote:
Hear Hear, that other place truly is a cesspit. I used to cringe at TB's followers and how easily they'd be duped into his warped theories about trolls under the bed".

END

I think I will stay put where I am, and remain with just one forum, as I've done for many years. So, folks, I will remain here, in the "cesspit"

It is a sad fact that this forum is under attack - not from the pro's as would be expected, but from people who used to be what we thought were trusted members of this forum.

just had a peek there,helenmeg said she has been banned?

Isnt it a shame that they have nothing better to do than diss this forum when they join there,i feel quite sad as I thought it was a going to turn out a good forum like this one
 but alas it doesn't look like its going to be.

tiny wrote:Isnt it a shame that they have nothing better to do than diss this forum when they join there,i feel quite sad as I thought it was a going to turn out a good forum like this one
 but alas it doesn't look like its going to be.

It's always a shame to lose members who become malcontents, but the figures continue to speak for themselves:

391 on CMOMM here right now

54 on MM
21 on MCF
16 on MMM 

plus CMOMM ranked high on most Madeleine McCann-related searches.

It reminds me of the old Whiskas cat adverts: 8 out of 10 cats prefer Whiskas

tiny wrote:just had a peek there,helenmeg said she has been banned?

Jamaica?

No, she went of her own accord.

(Old joke).

Some interesting tweets about G Osborne, today, at PMQT. Here is a taster:

Tony Greenall [email=‏@TonyCSGreenall]‏@TonyCSGreenall[/email] 12m12 minutes ago
Govt. announced legal highs will now be Class A drugs, just like whatever George Osborne was on in Parliament today.



 
Paul Johnson [email=‏@PaulJohnson1861]‏@PaulJohnson1861[/email] 9m9 minutes ago
What on earth was going on with George Osborne at PMQs? http://i100.io/Ywie0rg  The term Is believe is "off his tits"

tan Le Man 45 [email=‏@RFCSwitcheroo]‏@RFCSwitcheroo[/email] 1m1 minute ago
[email=.@George_Osborne].@George_Osborne[/email] you need to cut doon on that white powder fella, the feckin state of you at #pmqs today!!

This must be one of the sickest tweets yet.



that's a McCann supporter for you,vile,vile vile.

tiny wrote:This must be one of the sickest tweets yet.



that's a McCann supporter for you,vile,vile vile.

One hopes she was not reffering to Madeleine. No name is given, so perhaps that could be turned round by someone who does Twitter

I was so shocked to read that on twitter,that a normal person could say that about some one who has died,filth is the word I would use for this hancock person.                                     BRUNT, I hope you see this,do you still feel proud of yourself .

Had to post this one

Patty Bush @choppyflops
@skymartinbrunt does it hurt when @mitch_1uk puts his hand up your arse to work your mouth? #mccann

not a shameful tweet at all imo - it made me laugh.