"The Failed Investigation of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann' - YouTube video by US station LipTV - Dr Graham Hill talks utter balderdash on the case for 4 solid minutes

by **Tony Bennett** 02.07.15 14:16

On 15 June this year, LipTV uploaded this 5 min 30sec video on the Madeleine McCann case to YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1gOOkyaPAU

If 'Dr Graham Hill' is a real criminologist, then I'm a Dutchman.

The entire video is a stream of unadulterated rubbish.

But perhaps the most important thing Dr Hill announces on this vid is that he was 'sent out to Praia da Luz by the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office'.

Que??!!

Who by?

What for?

What was he paid?

Did he produce a report for them?

I feel a Freedom of Information Act question coming on.

One thing's for sure, though.

If LipTV has nailed its colours to the mast by publicly claiming that the McCanns were 'too professional to cry' (watch the video) and smearing the Portuguese Police, I can't see the untold 'Untold Story' by Sonia Poulton being aired on their show any time soon...

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P.S. The vid has had 1,500 views in 20 days, so about 75 a day.

Just one-twentieth, though, of the current rate of views of Richard Hall's 'True Story' - 1,500 a day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIjPcvmVzUo

by Guest 02.07.15 14:33

https://theconversation.com/profiles/graham-hill-148110

He used to work at CEOP.

by espeland 02.07.15 14:37

Clearly he is pro-McCann. Not much more to say, given that.

But given that was put up on YouTube, it is surely encouraging that Sonia's documentary - if shown on LipTV - will probably get there too? And if not, then there are American members here and on other forums who will pass on what it says.

by **Tony Bennett** 02.07.15 14:43

Ladyinred wrote:https://theconversation.com/profiles/graham-hill-148110

He used to work at CEOP.

Whaaaaatt?!*%@?*!*?*!?

He worked at CEOP and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office paid him to go to Praia da Luz??

The case against Jim Gamble is looking stronger and stronger by the minute...

by Liz Eagles 02.07.15 14:56

According to McCannfiles, Dectective Chief Supertintendent Graham Hill went out to PDL with Jo Sullivan. Both gave keynote speeches at the CEOP conference that Gerry McCann spoke at.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id354.html

According to the link posted by LIR:

Snipped

2011–present
Independent Criminal Behaviour Analysis Consultant, KLIK Protective Services
1985–2011
Police Officer , Surrey Police
2000–2011
Senior Investigating Officer, Surrey Police
2007–2011
Head of Behaviour Analysis, Child Exploitation Online Protection centre (CEOP)

https://theconversation.com/profiles/graham-hill-148110

I'm not sure how you can be a Senior Investigating Officer with Surrey Police at the same time as being Head of Behaviour Analysis for CEOP - maybe it's a typo.

..............................

An interesting aside, Mark Williams Thomas served in Surrey Police around the same time as Graham Hill.

by snook 02.07.15 15:01

Here is the full, nearly 40 minute interview. Please note the McCanns are SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS and this explains their behaviour. They are completely innocent, it was all the fault of those sardine munching Portuguese !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMlJqx1-4s&app=desktop

by Guest 02.07.15 15:07

Just like Sharon Leal, PhD, asserting 100% innocent.

by Liz Eagles 02.07.15 15:23

The McCanns went on holiday with 16 people/friends? GH said it twice.

by sallypelt 02.07.15 15:28

snook wrote:Here is the full, nearly 40 minute interview. Please note the McCanns are SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS and this explains their behaviour. They are completely innocent, it was all the fault of those sardine munching Portuguese !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMlJqx1-4s&app=desktop

Anyone who goes abroad but does not go there to f ***ing enjoy myself" can't be anything OTHER than "SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS....................can they?

by jeanmonroe 02.07.15 15:43

by jeanmonroe 02.07.15 15:50

by Joss 02.07.15 15:56

jeanmonroe wrote:

This the same one on the Lip TV site, the one Sonia Poulton's doco. is going to be aired through.

by jeanmonroe 02.07.15 16:03

Been a 'bizzy little bee' hasn't he?

@TB

On 15 June this year, LipTV uploaded this 5 min 30sec video on the Madeleine McCann case to YouTube:

JUNE 15th 2015.?

thinking

AHHHH!

TWO DAYS 'INTO' KM's Missing People 500 mile bike ride 'adventure' (13th-17th June 2015)

Maybe the old adage........ 'where there's muck, there's brass'

should be 'updated' to:

'where there's Maddie, there's brass'!

by MrsC 02.07.15 18:01

jeanmonroe wrote:

Maybe the old adage........ 'where there's muck, there's brass'

should be 'updated' to:

'where there's Maddie, there's brass'!

Or maybe 'where's there's Mc, there's brass'?!

by snook 02.07.15 18:23

If you watch the full video you will note the presenter is as bad as Hill at painting the McCanns as saintly, wronged parents. I wonder if this is the shape of things to come with Poulton's 'masterpiece' ? Could she really when she has previously been tweeting against them ? Perhaps the station post any old drivel without checking the validity ?

by aiyoyo 02.07.15 20:56

espeland wrote:Clearly he is pro-McCann. Not much more to say, given that.

But given that was put up on YouTube, it is surely encouraging that Sonia's documentary - if shown on LipTV - will probably get there too? And if not, then there are American members here and on other forums who will pass on what it says.

So far, SP's untold story of Madeleine remains just that - untold !
The airing date appears to be somewhere in the distance between earth and mars.

IF (and when) it ever get told on Lip.tv, you can bet your bottom dollar the McCanns will hear of it through their paid shills, who are no doubt keeping their eyes peeled on the release date, as it will no doubt be announced on the internet ahead of time.

Any chance of it going viral on youtube will depend if Lip.tv gets a missive on embossed letterhead from Mcs paid legal lapdog. Once it is shown on Lip.tv, the damage limitation exercise will be in full gear.

by lj 02.07.15 20:57

snook wrote:Here is the full, nearly 40 minute interview. Please note the McCanns are SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS and this explains their behaviour. They are completely innocent, it was all the fault of those sardine munching Portuguese !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMlJqx1-4s&app=desktop

He also says they are articulate. That shows he knows nothing about the case and has never heard Kate talk.

by Guest 02.07.15 21:11

lj wrote:
snook wrote:Here is the full, nearly 40 minute interview. Please note the McCanns are SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS and this explains their behaviour. They are completely innocent, it was all the fault of those sardine munching Portuguese !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMlJqx1-4s&app=desktop

He also says they are articulate. That shows he knows nothing about the case and has never heard Kate talk.

Hill went to PdL and met the MCs.

by MRNOODLES 02.07.15 21:17

lj wrote:
snook wrote:Here is the full, nearly 40 minute interview. Please note the McCanns are SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS and this explains their behaviour. They are completely innocent, it was all the fault of those sardine munching Portuguese !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMlJqx1-4s&app=desktop

He also says they are articulate. That shows he knows nothing about the case and has never heard Kate talk.

It honestly makes me wonder if he really wants to know. He gives me the impression he just like his mate Jimmy, self proclaimed kings of all things paed.... and everybody else knows jack.

by Guest 02.07.15 21:26

And a recently gained PhD for added credibility. There's quite a mini industry building up on this subject. Like JG involved with a private company, KLIK. Nothing at Companies House.

by Rogue-a-Tory 02.07.15 23:00

Never realised hogwash & whitewash were the same thing

by lj 03.07.15 2:09

Ladyinred wrote:
lj wrote:
snook wrote:Here is the full, nearly 40 minute interview. Please note the McCanns are SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS and this explains their behaviour. They are completely innocent, it was all the fault of those sardine munching Portuguese !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMlJqx1-4s&app=desktop

He also says they are articulate. That shows he knows nothing about the case and has never heard Kate talk.
Hill went to PdL and met the MCs.

Calling the McCanns sophisticated and articulate must be sarcasm then.

He might have been there, and still know nothing. Nobody is as blind as those who don't want to see.

by **Tony Bennett** 03.07.15 7:14

lj wrote:
He [Dr Graham Hill] might have been there, and still know nothing. Nobody is as blind as those who don't want to see.

Apart from those who have been told what they can and can't see winkwink

by whatsupdoc 03.07.15 7:53

I watched the short video and couldn't believe the guy was supposed to be a Detective Chief Superintendent. He struck me as a salesman selling a product without any knowledge of it.

Poor Madeleine has always been about selling a product but no searching.

Saying Kate is articulate is as bad as saying the shutters were jemmied. Going by Youtube videos of Kate, it is clear that she is not articulate so why does Dr. Hill say things which are so easily disproved. I would like to know where he did his PhD and how long it took him.

Not wishing to get bitchy, but why say they were sophisticated? Their watering holes told another story. Also, kate wearing brown sandals at their bash...what went wrong there?

Thanks for the link, LIR, just read it all now...

IMO

by sallypelt 03.07.15 8:37

whatsupdoc wrote:I watched the short video and couldn't believe the guy was supposed to be a Detective Chief Superintendent. He struck me as a salesman selling a product without any knowledge of it.

Poor Madeleine has always been about selling a product but no searching.

Saying Kate is articulate is as bad as saying the shutters were jemmied. Going by Youtube videos of Kate, it is clear that she is not articulate so why does Dr. Hill say things which are so easily disproved. I would like to know where he did his PhD and how long it took him.

Not wishing to get bitchy, but why say they were sophisticated? Their watering holes told another story. Also, kate wearing brown sandals at their bash...what went wrong there?

Thanks for the link, LIR, just read it all now...

IMO

Dr Hill is a Criminologist, he is also a retired UK senior police officer and former head of Behaviour Analysis at the Child Exploitation Online Protection centre (CEOP) in London. His research interests include the behaviour of male and female child sex offenders, interviewing child sex offenders and male non-familial child abduction/murder.

2015
Durham University, PhD - Applied Social Science/Criminology
2010
Lancashire University, Post Graduate Certificate in Forensic Behavioural Psychology

CEOP says it all

Edited to add: 2007–2011 Head of Behaviour Analysis, Child Exploitation Online Protection centre (CEOP)

Opps!!! Maybe I should have read the whole thread. All the above information has already been posted blushing1

by Mark Willis 03.07.15 9:20

So far, televisually, there is nothing to surpass Richard Hall's videos, Amaral's book/video and for written archives, the mccannfiles and Hideho.
All we have seen from Poulton is TPV with Hutton and Birch, The Sun with Hutton, parking her behind way too often for comfort on SKY TV and this putative shocker "the dog ate my film" forthcoming documentary, to be aired in a dark room produced by Stevie Wonder.
Luckily, in the meantime, we have been blessed with the very successful GA GoFundMe eclipsing any promised revelations from Poulton.

by whatsupdoc 03.07.15 10:01

Morning Tony, LIR, lj, Sally and Mark.

I only clicked on LIR link after I posted and found out about Hill. Didn't Kate go to Durham?

Some people can gain paper qualifications and have no idea about applying them to the real world...I've met them.

To me , it's blindingly obvious, that if you are a club member , you will follow the script...it pays the bills.

by sallypelt 03.07.15 10:06

whatsupdoc wrote:Morning Tony, LIR, lj, Sally and Mark.

I only clicked on LIR link after I posted and found out about Hill. Didn't Kate go to Durham?

Some people can gain paper qualifications and have no idea about applying them to the real world...I've met them.

To me , it's blindingly obvious, that if you are a club member , you will follow the script...it pays the bills.

Morning, whatsupdoc.

When is a director not a director? According to web information, Graham Hall is a "director" of KLIK Protection Services, but no such company exists in Companies House. I have done a search in the Irish Company directory but it doesn't give much information, other than there's a company called "KLIK" but there's no "KLIK Protection Services" However, the KLIK in the Irish directory was created"four years ago", and maybe just another coincidence that KLIK Protection Services was created in 2011.

by jeanmonroe 03.07.15 10:08

IF it's 'broadcast' in USA, (First amendment: Freedom of speech) are UK 'libel and slander' laws, 'avoided'?

I only ask, because, the ONLY 'thing' i want to 'know' is the name' of the person, who SP says whose 'name', will 'shock us to the core' as that 'person' MUST 'keep the abduction claim, GOING',........... 'at ALL costs'!

by Liz Eagles 03.07.15 10:21

Ladyinred wrote:And a recently gained PhD for added credibility. There's quite a mini industry building up on this subject. Like JG involved with a private company, KLIK. Nothing at Companies House.

Thurrock Council offered a training programme in 2014

The Six Steps of Child Sexual Abuse Behaviour

Who For:

This course is for all professionals who work with, or who in the course of their work may come into contact with children and young people who may be at risk of abuse. It is also for professionals working with adults who may be perpetrators of abuse.

Learning Outcomes: By the end of the course participants will:

Recognise the importance of considering the 6 steps to child sexual abuse behaviour model in order to safeguard children
Be able to recognise patterns of offender behaviour and understand the psychological processes that drive them
Have new knowledge in relation to perpetrator behaviour that they can use to support them in delivering their responsibilities to safeguard children

Have applied the six steps model to their understanding of risk and risk and risk assessment
Considered on how risk assessments inform effective management of families and child protection plans
Considered the non-abusive partner
Explored how the ‘multi-agency’ model can effectively manage sex offenders

Delivered by:Graham Hill (KLIK Protective Services) and Rachel Sensicle (Risk Solutions)

Graham worked for the Police Service for 30 years, working mostly in the Criminal Investigation Department investigating in particular serious sexual crimes against children. Graham was the Head of the Behavioural Analysis Unit for the Child Exploitation Online Protection Centre (CEOP) between 2007-2011. He is currently undertaking a PhD focussing upon Sexually Motivated Non-Familial Child Abduction/Child Murder.

Rachel has worked as a Social Work practitioner for over 15 years, initially in front line child protection teams and subsequently for the NSPCC’s Specialist Investigation Service. Rachel was seconded to the Child Exploitation Online Protection Centre in 2007, an organisation affiliated to the Serious and Organised Crime Agency. She worked in the field of Intelligence and Offender Management, tracking missing High Risk Sex Offenders.

Rachel was recruited into CEOP’s Behavioural Analysis Unit and qualified as the centres first Psychological Profiler.

All applicants must evidence that they have already completed basic awareness child protection training within their organisations.

Important Notice: This training uses clips of real perpetrators speaking about their experiences of abusing children. Some individuals may find the course content upsetting due to its challenging nature. Please consider this carefully before booking.

Application forms must be completed and returned to interagencytraining@thurrock.gov.uk
Whilst there is no charge for attendance, non-attendance once a place has been confirmed will be charged at £50.00

http://www.thurrocklscb.org.uk/training-conferences/training-event-information/six-steps-of-csa-behaviour/

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